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Post by Linda on Sept 26, 2024 15:27:42 GMT
My kids are not interested in dating, kids, marriage, romance... so it's not happening for me anytime soon. same with my kids. Actually DS32 (33 in a month) WOULD like kids but it's not really practical for him to be a single dad while he's still active duty. The girls (24 and 18 on Thurs)? nope, no interest in any of that |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 26, 2024 15:38:03 GMT
I got botox one time about 10 or so years ago in my crows feet area because my friend hosted a botox party. My eyes are really light, so I'm a squinter. I liked the results just fine, but I don't think I'd do it again. I'm 52, and I think I look pretty good for my age, so it's not something I really think much about. I'd prefer to take precautions such as sunscreen and a good skincare routine. I also would prefer to spend my money on hair color! I've worn glasses and/or contacts since I was in the third grade, so I've always been a squinter, too- even more so after living for so many years in AZ where the sun was so intense. Plus, since I have to wear glasses now (no contacts) I can't really see any crows feet, anyway. I've never worn much makeup, and only ever highlighted my (dark brown) hair for about 10 years in my mid 40s... since my hair started really going gray a couple years ago, I gave up on highlighting it, because I didn't want top have to color it all over. I don't like the coarse texture my gray hair has, but I love the color-- my mom and dad both had beautiful silver hair, and somehow, my hair changing color makes me feel, I don't know, closer to them, somehow? that's weird, probably, but... I dislike intensely the obsession this country has with youth, especially for women but not so much for men. Men look distinguished with gray / silver hair, but women look old. What's up with that? Phooey. (and yeah- I'd rather spend my $$ on x-stitching and quilting fabric and supplies than on myself, lol.) I also |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 26, 2024 16:04:23 GMT
I think what is important is being comfortable in your own skin. Amen. I think it's tough out there to feel comfortable in your own skin. |
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Post by katlady on Sept 26, 2024 16:19:48 GMT
I stopped coloring my hair during Covid. I’ve embraced my natural grey. I am not fully grey, more like salt and pepper. I don’t have any plans to try Botox. I do a minimal Japanese skin care routine before bed, just 4 products. In the morning I use a face lotion with SPF in it. I wear hardly any makeup. I do have the benefit of being Asian and looking younger. I could probably look even younger even if I went back to coloring my hair. But, I am happy with where I am at. As someone above mentioned, I am more concerned with taking care of my body and staying healthy at this point in my life. I do workout and we try to eat healthy. I started yoga for mobility and stress relief.
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Post by cmpeter on Sept 26, 2024 16:58:54 GMT
I’m 58 and have been getting Botox for the past 5 years. I have pretty severe 11’s that were really bothering me (all the women on my mom’s side have them). My left eye is more hooded than my right and it really bothers me too. Botox solves both of those.
I don’t have much gray, but have been getting highlights in my brown hair since I was in college.
I’m crappy about remembering to moisturize and use any other potions or creams.
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Post by huskergal on Sept 26, 2024 17:15:17 GMT
I'm sad when I see celebrity women who no longer look like themselves because they have so much work done.
Aging is part of the process of living. I will color my hair until I retire. After that, I don't know.
I have no interest in Botox or anything else. I just try to keep a good skincare routine.
At one time I was going to do laser treatments to remove the large brown spots from my face, but after the consultation, I was told it would have to be repeated and I would have to use expensive creams to keep them away. Not interested in spending money. The price for 3 treatments was $1000.
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Post by Merge on Sept 26, 2024 17:42:30 GMT
I'm fortunate that, at 51, I don't have lines or wrinkles of any kind and the skin above my eyes is not drooping or crepey - so it's easy for me to say, oh, women should age naturally. If that's not the case for others, who am I to tell them to put down the Botox? Please do as you like. Life is hard enough for women already. On the flip side, if you do have lines and wrinkles and don't want to do anything to mitigate that, I support that as well.
I have colored my hair for decades and don't see that stopping any time soon. My skin tone is warm (oddly it gets warmer as I get older) and gray hair or any cool tone is not a good look. More likely to go more and more blonde through highlights as I get older.
I just started with a new dermatologist and, like most these days, they offer cosmetic dermatology in addition to medical stuff. Generally I have avoided dermatologist that advertise a lot of cosmetic stuff (as I avoid gynecologists who operate a "med spa" in their offices and PCPs who push supplements) but these folks came highly recommended. I was a little afraid of getting the hard sell on anti-aging potions, but all she did was note the mild rosacea around my nose and ask if it bothered me. I said no and that was that. It's easily covered with a little concealer. She froze off a couple of keratoses that did bother me and took a shave biopsy of a mole that had changed (no cancer!) and I'm very happy with that.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 26, 2024 18:42:41 GMT
I don't take issue with whatever someone chooses to do to their own body, whether that be Botox or 100 tattoos. I started this post for two reasons: 1) because I wanted to see how common things like this were. I figure that the vast majority of the posters here probably do have the discretionary income to do Botox so I was curious to see how many people are actually using it. Which leads me to 2) I do think it's a bit extreme to be using it in your 20s before you even get wrinkles and I am actually hoping this isn't common. Mostly because I don't want young people to feel this kind of pressure about how they are going to look in 20-30 years. But seeing the poll numbers here on us oldsters who legitimately are aging, I'm thinking that the young ones using it are a true minority.
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Post by peano on Sept 26, 2024 19:00:45 GMT
I color my hair, have used facial moisturizer with sunscreen religiously since my late 20s. I am told often I look 10 years younger than my age, 65. I still color my hair because like @merge, I have a warm complexion, and in my case, a ton of freckles. I love the icy look of silvery hair with a cool complexion, but I don’t think I’d look great with gray hair. I am bothered by my growing marionette lines, but I don’t think Botox is used for that. When I researched it, it required surgery, which I don’t think I’d want. The only reason I might consider it is that I think it makes me look unhappy.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 26, 2024 19:46:06 GMT
I did botox with a filler a few times in my mid-40s to get rid of my 11s - it worked great and they haven't come back. I wouldn't hesitate to do it again. My laugh lines don't bother me, but the exaggerated RBF did - I looked pissed off all the time. I started adding highlights when my naturally dark blonde hair started darkening in my 20s. I'll do it forever - or until there's enough grey that something else make sense.
I'm not ruling out doing something in the future if it can look natural. That's my big beef with a lot of what gets done with fillers and surgery. Even people with a ton of money end up with faces that look off and a lot of that isn't even an anti-aging movement. It's trying to put specific looks on people faces (big lips) etc that just don't work.
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Post by Zee on Sept 26, 2024 19:56:07 GMT
I'm all for whatever you feel like doing. I do judge a bit if it looks overdone or ridiculous, I think most of us have that reaction when someone starts looking like a cartoon. ~summer~ I got Sculptra, two separate sessions and will probably get the 3rd (it takes 2-3). The area was numbed and it didn't particularly hurt anymore than anything else. I've also had fillers to help with facial volume I lost from weight loss and menopause combined. I get Botox semi-regularly, it really keeps those wrinkles from showing in the forehead and crows feet. I am not particularly wrinkly yet and I'd like to keep it that way. I have had sun damage and had CO2 lasering done, which instantly took years off. But I would like to have it done again eventually. I can't tolerate retin-A, my skin just flakes too bad with it and it's disgusting. It's much worse since menopause. I give up on that. I got a "babylip" done at the time of my fillers and I'm in love with it. It doesn't look fake at all but it's just right. I didn't think I needed any lip fillers but the very light touch looks great. My injector is a physician and she specializes in "you but better". She doesn't do anything crazy and all her work looks natural. If you want to look like a cartoon, she's not the one you go to because she won't do it. I color my hair because I'm not a fan of my natural hair color and I've been coloring it since I was in my teens. Now it's going very gray. I'd be coloring it no matter what. I use Mounjaro to keep my weight under control, and I love what a difference it's made in how I approach food. It's been, quite literally, life-changing. Menopause has done a huge number on me. So overall, I spend a lot of money to look and feel my best. It's not so much about trying to look "younger" (I'm not fooling anyone and I don't try to hide my age at all) as much as wanting to look good. |
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Post by Anita on Sept 26, 2024 20:10:24 GMT
I chose other because I recently had my upper eyelids done. However, it wasn't purely a vanity thing. My right eye had become so droopy it was causing my vision to blur when I got tired. My daughter told me I look younger, but the way the surgery had to happen, I now look like I have deeper wrinkles at the corner of that eye, and I'm fine with that. I really don't mind wrinkles. I even let my hair to natural over the last two years. So I'm not sure how I should answer. Yes, I had work done, and I'm sure part of it was vanity. I'm definitely not above it. When I was in my 20s, I was offered free surgery to "correct" my Prince Charles ears, and I went for it. I am very happy I did because I think nothing of pulling my hair back and showing my ears. It's liberating. I wouldn't do Botox because chemicals scare me, but I'm not going to be too judgy at people who are trying to maintain their faces. I get it. Watching my face change with age is kind of depressing! All that to say, I'm not sure how I should answer.  |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 26, 2024 20:20:32 GMT
I haven’t gotten Botox or filler at this point but have thought about it. My forehead always feels tight and looks that way as well sometimes. Not wrinkly except for one side of an 11, but kind of lumpy. I also really dislike my smile now (in photos it looks like I am not smiling at all, even when I intentionally try to smile as big as I can). If there was something that I knew would work for that I would do it. I didn’t think I really knew anyone irl that had done either but lately have heard more people talking about it. None of them look overdone or “perfect” but just a little bit of a difference.
I don’t think it’s a good idea for younger people to constantly get filler and Botox.
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Post by malibou on Sept 26, 2024 20:22:07 GMT
I’m 58 and have been getting Botox for the past 5 years. I have pretty severe 11’s that were really bothering me (all the women on my mom’s side have them). My left eye is more hooded than my right and it really bothers me too. Botox solves both of those. I don’t have much gray, but have been getting highlights in my brown hair since I was in college. I’m crappy about remembering to moisturize and use any other potions or creams. Wait a minute, Botox would help with my eyes that are starting to hood and making me look even more like my sister I recently cut out of my life? For real? Damn, I think I might be getting Botox. 😉 |
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Post by malibou on Sept 26, 2024 20:39:01 GMT
I'm all for whatever you feel like doing. I do judge a bit if it looks overdone or ridiculous, I think most of us have that reaction when someone starts looking like a cartoon. ~summer~ I got Sculptra, two separate sessions and will probably get the 3rd (it takes 2-3). The area was numbed and it didn't particularly hurt anymore than anything else. I've also had fillers to help with facial volume I lost from weight loss and menopause combined. I get Botox semi-regularly, it really keeps those wrinkles from showing in the forehead and crows feet. I am not particularly wrinkly yet and I'd like to keep it that way. I have had sun damage and had CO2 lasering done, which instantly took years off. But I would like to have it done again eventually. I can't tolerate retin-A, my skin just flakes too bad with it and it's disgusting. It's much worse since menopause. I give up on that. I got a "babylip" done at the time of my fillers and I'm in love with it. It doesn't look fake at all but it's just right. I didn't think I needed any lip fillers but the very light touch looks great. My injector is a physician and she specializes in "you but better". She doesn't do anything crazy and all her work looks natural. If you want to look like a cartoon, she's not the one you go to because she won't do it. I color my hair because I'm not a fan of my natural hair color and I've been coloring it since I was in my teens. Now it's going very gray. I'd be coloring it no matter what. I use Mounjaro to keep my weight under control, and I love what a difference it's made in how I approach food. It's been, quite literally, life-changing. Menopause has done a huge number on me. So overall, I spend a lot of money to look and feel my best. It's not so much about trying to look "younger" (I'm not fooling anyone and I don't try to hide my age at all) as much as wanting to look good. Holy crapoly, I really didn't think I wanted anything done, but cmpeter suggested it would help my hooding eyes, and now you're talking about CO2 lasering. I've never heard of this before, so there will be a rabbit hole coming. I think vanity is jumping me a bit, as I am in the middle of cataract surgery, and realizing that I probably won't be wearing glasses anymore, and I've had them for 52 years! I didn't realize the crows feet and under eye darkness were really even there, as my glasses covered it and I simply couldn't really see it all without my glasses. On the plus side, most guess me at least 10 years younger, and since I was 22 years old, no one has guessed that I am the older one between my six year younger sister and I. She thought that was pretty cool when we were young, as we've aged, not so much. 😋 I coloured my hair once, and my hair was super short at the time, I let it grow out immediately, as I could see I wasn't the girl that would do a good job of maintaining it. I was quite excited about turning grey, as my 2 older sisters and younger brother (all biological siblings) were nearly completely grey by 40. The eldest has the very white, the next has gorgeous platinum and my brothers is silver. I have about a dime-sized patch of grey near my temple on the left side where my hair parts. Looks like I might eventually turn into Cruella DeVille! |
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Post by bc2ca on Sept 26, 2024 20:51:13 GMT
I believe strong women should do whatever they want. I've always been a minimalist with makeup but do take care of my skin and colored my hair for a number of years. In my early 50s I decided to stop coloring, hoping I had more white than gray. After a few years, partly out of boredom and partly realizing my gray was making me look older than I felt, I started coloring again. And started with purple. During my early 50s gray period an ID badge photo was taken. In my late 50s, a delightful 4 year old client very careful examined my ID, looked at me, back at the photo and announced in amazement "you used to be old!".  Covid and the lack of commitment to staying ahead of the gray means I don't color anymore. Chemo left me bald and I am hoping my hair will come back white. I have never considered Botox (or tattoos) because of skin issues. I love getting facials and pedicures. The only other cosmetic thing I have considered is eyelash extensions. A girlfriend has her's done monthly and I'm totally envious. DD(27) had miraDry several years ago and, if I were younger and didn't have skin issues, I would 100% do it. So far she isn't interested in Botox or fillers and doesn't know anyone personally who is. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 26, 2024 21:55:32 GMT
bc2ca I am not a makeup person but my stepdaughter had her lashes done for a while and they just were so well done. They simply made her lashes look fuller. I have often thought that I'd like that done just to make my eyes pop a bit behind my glasses. It's the glasses that hold me back. I just keep thinking no one can really see them so it isn't worth it. But just that one cosmetic thing would make me feel just a notch better.
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Post by cmpeter on Sept 26, 2024 22:27:05 GMT
Yes...she gives me a drop right under my eyebrow and it helps open up that eye. Without it when I look at myself in photos or the mirror I see a very noticble difference in the size of my eyes.
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Post by Gem Girl on Sept 26, 2024 22:58:24 GMT
“Women are stuck between a rock and hard place: If you don’t, you’re chastised for letting yourself go, if you do, you’re vain and frivolous,” Berkowitz said. Love how society judges us on appearance, then blames us whether we agree to work towards that ideal or not. Sigh. |
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Post by epeanymous on Sept 26, 2024 23:45:05 GMT
Being raised in an appearances household where my mother spent 90 minutes minimum getting ready every morning and wouldn’t tell people her age affected me a lot. I just am not willing to devote that % of my life to the project. I try to look presentable, but I’m not interested in surgery or anti-aging treatments.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 27, 2024 15:05:21 GMT
In my early 50s I decided to stop coloring, hoping I had more white than gray. After a few years, partly out of boredom and partly realizing my gray was making me look older than I felt, I started coloring again. And started with purple. ^^^ this is why I can't wait till my hair all turns gray / white... so I can get it colored bright pink!!  |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Sept 27, 2024 15:18:52 GMT
The only permanent change I've made to my body is pierced ears and one tattoo. Temporary changes have dropped off significantly as I've aged. I don't wear makeup unless I'm going to an event. I no longer color my hair. My eyebrows are disappearing at an alarming rate. I do use a brow pencil when I go it in public, but I'm retired, so I'm doing that less as well.
Here's the thing, menopause is a bitch on your looks. You don't realize just how much estrogen works to keep you looking young and feminine. I've been in menopause for 16 years and only took HRT for five years. My body has changed, but I really see the change in my face in the last five years. It's falling and can't get up.
If I had unlimited funds, I'd do something about my forehead wrinkles, 11s, disappearing jawline, and developing festoons. But I don't have unlimited funds and I'd rather spend my money on other things. When comes to priorities in my life, how I look has always come in at the bottom of the list. I've created a nice life with family and friends despite having average looks.
People have their own priorities, but holding on to your youth is a losing proposition. Everyone gets old, and all the plastic surgery in the world isn't going to make you 30 again. Unless you were blessed with the beauty gene that holds up as you age, it's hell for women who lose their pretty privilege after having it their entire lives. It does seem that actresses that were not considered beauties in their youth age much better than the classically beautiful ones.
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Post by ~summer~ on Sept 27, 2024 15:57:13 GMT
@zee good to know about sculptra, it’s just the idea of the long needle that bothers me - how did you feel about the results? I’ve had filler and that needle bothered me - but I was very happy with results.
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Post by gina on Sept 27, 2024 19:03:41 GMT
I have naturally full lips and little wrinkles. I frequently get told I don't look my age (people are shocked when I tell them how old my kids are. Its my favorite thing to do lol) Anyway, I am totally not against Botox, lip filler, whatever I need to look good when the time comes. Some people don't care how they age and thats fine. For me, I feel my best when I look my best. Its why I am in the gym everyday. |
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Post by Delta Dawn on Sept 27, 2024 22:55:05 GMT
Becki ( jeremysgirl) I Used to get Botox every 6 months when it finally wore off. I went to a provider I liked and it was very close to my house. I can see her office from my living room. I had it one last time and had an aching forehead for 3-4 days. I can live without that and never did it again. I was about 50 for reference. That was 5 years ago. Same provider every time and was an MD. |
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Post by nightnurse on Sept 27, 2024 23:24:51 GMT
I have a friend who’s a derm nurse and she told me about the early preventative Botox. Said once you get wrinkles, you need filler. Also told me I’m not ugly, just poor! (Which she meant in a nicer way than it sounds-she used the kardashians as an example of how much you can change your appearance with expensive plastic surgery). I am totally fine with plastic surgery and not opposed to it, but I don’t know how people find the money or the time. I’m 50 and I’ve been a D cup since I was 13 so a mastopexy is like my dream surgery but it’s pricey and I’d need weeks off of work. So I’ll stay saggy. And I can’t imagine the pressure for kids in their 20s to start paying for botox. I think it should be there for those who’d like it but I wish there wasn’t such pressure to conform and maintain youth.
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Post by Zee on Sept 28, 2024 0:48:25 GMT
@zee good to know about sculptra, it’s just the idea of the long needle that bothers me - how did you feel about the results? I’ve had filler and that needle bothered me - but I was very happy with results. To be honest I'm not sure it made a huge difference now, but it probably will eventually? She used it to fill in the hollows in the sides of my face above my cheek bones. With weight loss and loss of estrogen, my face was starting to look like a skull. It's also to help support the skin on my cheekbones, creating a collagen support system. She put a smallish amount of filler in my cheek bones, chin, and lips and that made a world of difference in my profile and for the sagging skin. No one really noticed much other than I looked more fresh and healthy. Losing 50lbs in 8-9 months, with menopause on top of it, did have me looking kind of drawn. |
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Post by littlemama on Sept 28, 2024 0:56:38 GMT
I don't have an issue with aging and I really dont understand the trend toward making your face not move due to Botox. I did try it once, but it made my eyes droop in a way that made me not look like myself.
There is one particular TikTok person who pops up. She gets so much Botox and lip fillers that her mouth doesnt close. Her husband also gets at least the Botox. Their faces dont move. I would say they are in their late 30s/early 40s.
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Post by Zee on Sept 28, 2024 1:01:13 GMT
I don't have an issue with aging and I really dont understand the trend toward making your face not move due to Botox. I did try it once, but it made my eyes droop in a way that made me not look like myself. There is one particular TikTok person who pops up. She gets so much Botox and lip fillers that her mouth doesnt close. Her husband also gets at least the Botox. Their faces dont move. I would say they are in their late 30s/early 40s. If your face doesn't move at all you're doing it wrong (well, your injector is). My face moves just fine, I can smile and frown, but I don't have crows feet and frowning is definitely a bit of work 😉 |
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Post by mom on Sept 28, 2024 2:29:53 GMT
I am mid forties and haven't had any fillers or Botox. I am seriously considering it for my 11's though. If I had to bet, I bet I do it within the next few months. I highlight my hair, and get mani/pedis regularly. I moisturize and enjoy skin care. I have a love/hate relationship with the sun, so I've got some sun damage but it is what it is.
I have no interest in lip flips or anything like that. No desire for a mommy makeover or a BBL at this point. My boobs (and legs) are my best features and they are holding up well, lol.
I guess I don't necesarily want to be younger, but perhaps enhance a little what I already have.
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