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Post by aj2hall on Sept 28, 2024 2:37:32 GMT
Sorry if this was posted in another thread but Musk's comments are really reprehensible and representative of the undercurrent of men trying to assert or reassert control over women and their bodies. Gift article wapo.st/4dmqc0jMost people I know were repelled when Elon Musk responded to Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris with a post that said: “Fine Taylor … you win … I will give you a child.” It’s creepy to talk about impregnating people you don’t really know. Sign up for Shifts, an illustrated newsletter series about the future of work
But Musk’s language – and statements by both former president Donald Trump and Sen. JD Vance — represent a dangerous thread that runs deep in this presidential campaign: the unnamed but ever-present one in which right-wing men are fighting to restore old sexual hierarchies and reassert their control of women’s bodies and priorities. The same sort of guys who fear they will be “replaced” by migrants also fear that smart, capable and, yes, sometimes childless women will end the sweet deal they have long had as so-called alpha males. These retro dudes are watching closely as more women choose friendships, careers and sometimes cats over their peculiar kind of masculinity.www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/article/hillary-clinton-elon-musk-taylor-swfit-19769542.php‘Another way of saying rape’: Hillary Clinton condemns Elon Musk’s comments on Taylor SwiftClinton went on to say that Musk’s tweet is just one example of how the “so-called masters of the universe in the technology world … (see) misogyny (as) such a part of their world view.” “They gravitate toward toughness and brutality and machoism. And here’s Taylor Swift, a self-made billionaire who brings joy to people and who imparts life lessons, particularly to girls and women,” she added. “They can’t stand it.” Politics Girl
PoliticsGirl @iampoliticsgirl Having the man currently running to be President of the United States, telling his millions of followers, many of whom are known to be violent, that he HATES Taylor Swift is a problem - just like what Elon tweeted after the debate was a problem - and we do our country a disservice to pretend otherwise.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 28, 2024 3:03:01 GMT
Musk is not alone. Here's another awful comment from Republican in Ohio. Some old white men can't seem to comprehend why reproductive rights are important to women, not just women of childbearing age. And any man who has a mother, a sister or a wife should care about reproductive rights, too. This guy is completely tone deaf. www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/25/opinion/thepoint/badbehavior-republican-outreach-women?smid=url-shareThe past week has been something extra-special in terms of Republican outreach to women.
Bernie Moreno, the party’s pick for Senate in Ohio, kicked us off last Friday whining about many women being “single-issue voters” on reproductive rights. “It’s a little crazy, by the way — especially for women that are like past 50,” he said. “I’m thinking to myself: I don’t think that’s an issue for you.”
So … If you cannot personally get pregnant, you shouldn’t really care about this issue?
I’ll give Moreno three guesses as to what I’m thinking to myself.
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Bill Kristol @billkristol Bernie Moreno: “Especially for women that are like past 50–I’m thinking to myself, ‘I don’t think that’s an issue for you.'”
I dunno. Perhaps women past 50 care about their daughters? Or about younger women in general? Or about personal freedom?
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 28, 2024 3:53:23 GMT
So these men can’t understand caring about other people? So we can’t care about issues that affect others but only if they affect us? Explains a lot.
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Post by Merge on Sept 28, 2024 3:58:10 GMT
So these men can’t understand caring about other people? So we can’t care about issues that affect others but only if they affect us? Explains a lot. That's pretty much the difference between the two parties and has been for a long time. Trump was on stage tonight lauding the greatness of the Gilded Age, when most working class Americans lived in grinding poverty, but dammit those robber barons were raking in the cash. Never think that the America he wants to go "back" to is good for anyone but rich, white men.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2024 5:44:13 GMT
And those macho men are often unwilling to care for their children. They only care about the child's birth, not being about living theirs lives.
Talk about people, men in particular, changing women as often as they change their underwear!!!
Hummmm, where have we heard that about women in abusive etc marriages.. on reference to divorce...??
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Post by peasapie on Sept 28, 2024 8:29:17 GMT
So these men can’t understand caring about other people? So we can’t care about issues that affect others but only if they affect us? Explains a lot. That's pretty much the difference between the two parties and has been for a long time. Trump was on stage tonight lauding the greatness of the Gilded Age, when most working class Americans lived in grinding poverty, but dammit those robber barons were raking in the cash. Never think that the America he wants to go "back" to is good for anyone but rich, white men. Yeah it was a great time……..as long as you could afford a trip to Europe for your unplanned pregnancy instead of dying from a back alley abortion. These people are disgusting and want to go back to the days when anyone other than white men were subservient to their whims. Please God don’t let us go back…
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Post by pilcas on Sept 28, 2024 11:10:10 GMT
Musk is just disgusting.
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Post by sueg on Sept 28, 2024 11:21:49 GMT
Bernie Moreno, the party’s pick for Senate in Ohio, kicked us off last Friday whining about many women being “single-issue voters” on reproductive rights. I would also see many on the Republican side as being 'single issue' voters when it comes to reproductive rights, just on the other side. Whatever else a party is promising, they will vote for the party that wants to ban abortion.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 28, 2024 11:36:32 GMT
Musk is not alone. Here's another awful comment from Republican in Ohio. Some old white men can't seem to comprehend why reproductive rights are important to women, not just women of childbearing age. And any man who has a mother, a sister or a wife should care about reproductive rights, too. This guy is completely tone deaf. www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/25/opinion/thepoint/badbehavior-republican-outreach-women?smid=url-shareThe past week has been something extra-special in terms of Republican outreach to women.
Bernie Moreno, the party’s pick for Senate in Ohio, kicked us off last Friday whining about many women being “single-issue voters” on reproductive rights. “It’s a little crazy, by the way — especially for women that are like past 50,” he said. “I’m thinking to myself: I don’t think that’s an issue for you.”
So … If you cannot personally get pregnant, you shouldn’t really care about this issue?
I’ll give Moreno three guesses as to what I’m thinking to myself.
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Bill Kristol @billkristol Bernie Moreno: “Especially for women that are like past 50–I’m thinking to myself, ‘I don’t think that’s an issue for you.'”
I dunno. Perhaps women past 50 care about their daughters? Or about younger women in general? Or about personal freedom?
Like I said on the other thread Ending a pregnancy is not the only medical reason for a D&C and it’s not unheard of that a woman over 50 might have one of those other medical issues. Ignorant people suck, but ignorant white mens seem to suck more. I think it’s because they have no interest in being less ignorant. It still all boils down to a lack of empathy. The older I get the more I think empathy is the most important emotion to have.
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Post by librarylady on Sept 28, 2024 12:34:05 GMT
As a side note to this, Jimmy Kimmel did a humorous bit of asking the men on the street what the phrase "reproductive rights" means. Of course there was editing of the comments, but many of the men had no idea.
Another night he asked men to identify female body parts and that was a sad response from the men.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2024 12:56:12 GMT
There is a glimmer of hope in Kentucky!!!! AG Cameron? Isn't he related to Moscow Mich? His granddaughter SO? FRANKFORT — Franklin Circuit Judge Phillip Shepherd said Friday he will make public nearly all of the records in a lawsuit stemming from former Attorney General Daniel Cameron’s attempt in June of 2023 to investigate two University of Louisville physicians who had performed abortions at EMW Women’s Surgical Center.During a hearing on whether to unseal the case record, Shepherd said he will release an order early next week that will direct that documents in the case be released with the exception of one record filed with his office last year by Cameron. He also said names of the doctors would also remain confidential. At issue is a sealed lawsuit brought by the doctors and an official of EMW to quash a subpoena issued by Cameron for payroll and personnel records of the doctors. Cameron sought the records in 2023, a year after almost all abortions had been outlawed in Kentucky and the state’s abortion clinics had closed. A year ago Shepherd ruled in favor of the doctors, quashing the subpoena and ordering that most of the case file be unsealed. But Cameron blocked that order by immediately filing an appeal along with an emergency motion to keep the entire case a secret. On Aug. 9 a three-judge panel of the Kentucky Court of Appeals unanimously affirmed Shepherd’s quashing of the subpoena. Its order said the subpoena amounted to a “fishing expedition” and that Cameron’s premise that tax dollars may have been illegally spent on abortions was not supported the facts of the case. The appeals court ruling did not identify the physicians or U of L or EMW as their employers. Kentucky Lantern, based on information from knowledgeable sources and details in the appeals ruling, reported the case clearly involved the two U of L physicians and EMW, which was confirmed last week in a document filed by the parties in the case. The case is now over. Current Attorney General Russell Coleman decided not to appeal the appeals court’s ruling. But the appeals court referred back to Shepherd the matter of whether the file should remain sealed. www.rawstory.com/louisville-abortion/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 28, 2024 13:14:21 GMT
Keep in mind that musk has at least 15 kids mostly from different women. He surely is a ' Republican' family man... All about 1 mother, 1 father and 2 kids..
All about his new golden idol.. with three mothers of five kids... And BTW two of his wives were immigrants. He seems to not like American women.
Oh oh, just found a listing for my grandmother's birth certificate, her ethnicity is listed as American.
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 29, 2024 1:58:44 GMT
Bernie Moreno, the party’s pick for Senate in Ohio, kicked us off last Friday whining about many women being “single-issue voters” on reproductive rights. I would also see many on the Republican side as being 'single issue' voters when it comes to reproductive rights, just on the other side. Whatever else a party is promising, they will vote for the party that wants to ban abortion. Or Republicans who vote based on other single issues like tax cuts, gun rights or military spending
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