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Post by aj2hall on Oct 4, 2024 20:59:40 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 5, 2024 2:46:13 GMT
I just reread an article. They want to buy 55,000 Bibles at $60 each? That's 3.3 MILLION dollars. ... |
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Post by lucyg on Oct 5, 2024 16:35:20 GMT
Isn’t it a public school district in OK that’s planning to spend millions on the Trump Bible? How is that possibly even legal? I thought we were no longer pushing Christianity in our public schools?
If it gets taken to court, will this Supreme Court end up throwing out the 60+yo school prayer rulings?
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Post by Merge on Oct 5, 2024 16:43:28 GMT
Isn’t it a public school district in OK that’s planning to spend millions on the Trump Bible? How is that possibly even legal? I thought we were no longer pushing Christianity in our public schools? If it gets taken to court, will this Supreme Court end up throwing out the 60+yo school prayer rulings? Ryan Waters is the state superintendent who wants to make bibles mandatory in ALL Oklahoma public schools. Several of the more urban districts have told him to go pound sand, and he’s made various threats in response. And now he wants to send millions of dollars in taxpayer money to the Trump campaign to get very specific bibles. I wouldn’t trust this SC to uphold previous judgements re: separation of church and state. What does seem positive is that OK’s governor and AG don’t seem on board with Waters’ lunacy, and likely wouldn’t defend the order in court when it is challenged. |
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Post by sabrinae on Oct 5, 2024 16:43:59 GMT
Isn’t it a public school district in OK that’s planning to spend millions on the Trump Bible? How is that possibly even legal? I thought we were no longer pushing Christianity in our public schools? If it gets taken to court, will this Supreme Court end up throwing out the 60+yo school prayer rulings? They already have. There was already a ruling regarding a football coach and school prayer. We’re already at the deconstruction of previously held rights. This won’t end even if Trump falls over dead tomorrow |
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 5, 2024 17:05:50 GMT
Isn’t it a public school district in OK that’s planning to spend millions on the Trump Bible? How is that possibly even legal? I thought we were no longer pushing Christianity in our public schools? If it gets taken to court, will this Supreme Court end up throwing out the 60+yo school prayer rulings? Could be. They don’t seem to mind pollution, but some of them loooove their religion. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 5, 2024 17:08:21 GMT
Isn’t it a public school district in OK that’s planning to spend millions on the Trump Bible? How is that possibly even legal? I thought we were no longer pushing Christianity in our public schools? If it gets taken to court, will this Supreme Court end up throwing out the 60+yo school prayer rulings? Ryan Waters is the state superintendent who wants to make bibles mandatory in ALL Oklahoma public schools. Several of the more urban districts have told him to go pound sand, and he’s made various threats in response. And now he wants to send millions of dollars in taxpayer money to the Trump campaign to get very specific bibles. I wouldn’t trust this SC to uphold previous judgements re: separation of church and state. What does seem positive is that OK’s governor and AG don’t seem on board with Waters’ lunacy, and likely wouldn’t defend the order in court when it is challenged. This guy is a fanatic who has no place being involved with public schools. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 5, 2024 18:20:06 GMT
lucyg the Bibles are for the whole state of OK.. But TFG has a more expensive bible, $90, that also matches the bid requirements.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 5, 2024 21:19:36 GMT
Isn’t it a public school district in OK that’s planning to spend millions on the Trump Bible? How is that possibly even legal? I thought we were no longer pushing Christianity in our public schools? If it gets taken to court, will this Supreme Court end up throwing out the 60+yo school prayer rulings? They already have. There was already a ruling regarding a football coach and school prayer. We’re already at the deconstruction of previously held rights. This won’t end even if Trump falls over dead tomorrow They also ruled to allow taxpayer money to go to parochial schools in Maine. Some towns are too small to have their own high school and pay tuition to other schools. Of course, a parent sued to have their tuition at a religious school paid. And the current Supreme Court allowed it. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 5, 2024 22:07:23 GMT
Another tweek to the Bibles made our NJ paper. Also they are Lee Greenwood Bibles that TFG is endorsing... The grifter, TFG, will collect taxpayer dollars from Greenwood for the endosement.. Is it a coincidence that few Bibles meet those requirements? The Bible endorsed by Trump, however, does. Trump receives fees for endorsing musician Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, which has been endorsed by Trump., and those Bibles likely would meet Oklahoma’s requirements.If Oklahoma public schools buys thousands of Trump-endorsed Bibles, the former president will get a kickback from the taxpayer money — another example of how he has grifted off his former presidency.The original report came from a story first written by nonprofit investigative news organization Oklahoma Watch. www.nj.com/politics/2024/10/the-almighty-dollar-did-schools-official-rig-bid-to-allow-trump-to-grift-off-taxpayers-with-his-bible.html |
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Post by Merge on Oct 7, 2024 0:13:10 GMT
They already have. There was already a ruling regarding a football coach and school prayer. We’re already at the deconstruction of previously held rights. This won’t end even if Trump falls over dead tomorrow They also ruled to allow taxpayer money to go to parochial schools in Maine. Some towns are too small to have their own high school and pay tuition to other schools. Of course, a parent sued to have their tuition at a religious school paid. And the current Supreme Court allowed it. Yeah, but the case is very specific - it's only allowed in an area where there are no public schools. So it's not really a good precedent for the widespread use of public funds for religious schools right now. If, in the future, Republicans succeed in their quest to destroy public schools in some areas, that could be revisited. Also of interest, again in Oklahoma, the state supreme court ruled that public funds could not be used to establish a religious charter school in the state. No telling what SCOTUS will do. Either way, I imagine it will be a better precedent for the general case of public funding for private religious schools in the future. I'm scratching my head about how Ryan Waters got elected in the first place when it seems that most of the other GOP electeds in the state seem to think he's a nutcase. Hopefully the people of Oklahoma will make a different choice next time. |
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