Tearisci
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Post by Tearisci on Oct 4, 2024 13:21:35 GMT
My dad is 92 and normally very sharp with a great memory. I took him to the dr the other day for a checkup and he seemed very confused. Kept thinking I was my sister and mangling up his words. I just attributed it to getting older.
Fast Forward to last night - we were in the car going to dinner before a birthday party at my sister's house and he couldn't get the ages right of my siblings and kept repeating himself. I was getting super frustrated with him and then he started referring to me as my sister again. It was very out of character for him and a lesson that I need to find some patience!
We got to the party and my sister who is closest in age to me and I kept making eye contact as dad is just rambling on not making much sense but almost seeming manic in his speech. We knew then that something was up. She made the great decision to stop by the drug store and pick up a UTI test. Sure enough, he's got a raging one. I had heard that it's very common for the elderly to get dementia symptoms with a UTI. So today we call his doctor and try to get some antibiotics for him to take.
Just an FYI for anyone out there that sees a sudden shift in behavior of older loved ones.
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Post by naby64 on Oct 4, 2024 13:25:00 GMT
Yes, this we know in my family! My mother had been in a horrible car wreck. My brother had been staying with her. She was up and not supposed to be. Also, swatting at the "butterflies" on the walls. A couple of other incidents during that event. My brother is in the medical field and was greatly upset and worried at the start. When he got her calmed down and he had time to think, he started going that route. Took to the doctor the next morning. Sure enough, UTI.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 4, 2024 13:35:16 GMT
My mom had one too at one point and the aides at her nursing home knew something was up because she was very agitated and not acting like herself so they called me around 10 pm to take her to the ER. We weren’t there more than 15 minutes before the nurse suspected it was a UTI and did a urine test. Sure enough, that’s what it was.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 4, 2024 14:08:56 GMT
Thanks for the reminder. I’m glad you caught your dad’s UTI when you did.
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Post by dawnnikol on Oct 4, 2024 14:12:41 GMT
We learned really quickly that it was either a UTI or dehydration when my grandmother would start acting weird. Just crazy.
I'm glad you guys figured it out for your Dad and he's being treated.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 4, 2024 14:23:47 GMT
Glad you caught before it got really bad. I have a friend whose MIL doesn't say any thing until it gets really bad and she ends up in the hospital. Fact is, she never told anyone she only has one kidney so it goes bad real quick!!!
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Tearisci
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Post by Tearisci on Oct 4, 2024 14:26:23 GMT
He doesn't seem to have any pain but he was just off enough that we figured something was wrong. I even wondered about a stroke the way he was mangling up words. What it did teach me is that I need to be a kinder, gentler daughter as my parents age.
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Post by TXMary on Oct 4, 2024 14:46:44 GMT
My mom had one last summer. She was not herself at all and was very confused and not making any sense. She had fallen and we were worried that maybe she had hit her head. Took her to the ER and they did all kinds of tests and finally determined that she had a UTI. She's 91.
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Tearisci
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Post by Tearisci on Oct 4, 2024 14:53:17 GMT
My dad was in the hospital a few weeks ago for a pacemaker and they discovered he also was trying to pass a kidney stone. I wonder if this UTI is related to that.
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Post by flanz on Oct 4, 2024 14:55:03 GMT
Tearisci Thank you for this PSA/reminder! Mum is 92 and the minute she starts talking nonsense we know she has a UTI. It has happened about 5 times in the last 3 years and antibiotics bring her back to herself very quickly. Sadly, mum has now lost all of her friends, she's the last woman standing, though in the last year she's become frail. She was always very spry and young for her age until then. Mum's last close friend had an undiagnosed UTI for too long, and it led to rapid descent into full on dementia. It was horrible. Oh, mum's UTIs have always been asymptomatic too - no burning, itching...
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Post by milocat on Oct 4, 2024 15:12:57 GMT
Vaginal estrogen can help prevent UTIs. Would be especially helpful for those who are asymptomatic.
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Post by scrapmaven on Oct 4, 2024 15:18:36 GMT
It's very common for UTI's to cause dementia symptoms in the elderly. I'm glad that you figured it out. Your dad will be OK. flanz , my mil was 94 and apart from a younger sister she was the last one standing from her generation. It was so sad when she'd mention that fact. We kept her entertained when we could and I took care of her as much as I could, so that she would have company and feel loved.
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Post by disneypal on Oct 4, 2024 15:19:54 GMT
I had heard that it's very common for the elderly to get dementia symptoms with a UTI. So today we call his doctor and try to get some antibiotics for him to take. I've heard that too. I sure hope the meds help make him all better.
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Post by janet on Oct 4, 2024 15:24:16 GMT
My mom had this a number of times in her last couple of years. I never knew this before then - she suffered almost constantly from UTIs in her last 6 months.
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Post by KikiPea on Oct 4, 2024 15:54:37 GMT
He doesn't seem to have any pain but he was just off enough that we figured something was wrong. I even wondered about a stroke the way he was mangling up words. What it did teach me is that I need to be a kinder, gentler daughter as my parents age. I understand. This is so hard, especially when you aren’t around 24/7. My dad is early-mid lever dementia. I’m not around him enough to understand exactly what he’s dealing with, so I get a little uncomfortable around him. My sweet mom has been through it before with her mom, and is so patient with him. Big hugs! Aging parents is a tough road.
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Post by katlady on Oct 4, 2024 16:09:30 GMT
My mom had one and ended up in the hospital for a couple of days with sepsis. We took her to the hospital because she had bad chills. The doctor said UTI’s in the elderly is common and he prescribed her a vaginal cream. It is something I think about now, for both her and me, as I get older.
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Post by malibou on Oct 4, 2024 16:59:17 GMT
We are dealing with this with my mom currently. No symptoms until it's bad enough that she gets pretty nutty buddy. We constantly talk to her about early symptoms, but she just doesn't catch it. I've been wondering about making the over the counter UTI test a part of her regimen. Perhaps have her test every other Monday. katlady, any idea what the cream is that your mom was prescribed?
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Post by katlady on Oct 4, 2024 17:06:56 GMT
katlady, any idea what the cream is that your mom was prescribed? Estradiol.
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Post by flanz on Oct 4, 2024 17:29:34 GMT
It's very common for UTI's to cause dementia symptoms in the elderly. I'm glad that you figured it out. Your dad will be OK. flanz , my mil was 94 and apart from a younger sister she was the last one standing from her generation. It was so sad when she'd mention that fact. We kept her entertained when we could and I took care of her as much as I could, so that she would have company and feel loved. (((( HUGS )))) to you and your family, dear one. It's even worse for mum because she never mastered English. She was far better conversationally when she was still working (housekeeping in a hospital and interacting with patients, docs, nurses and other folks. But that was almost 30 years ago. Her community, aside from some wonderful neighbors, has always been the Polish community. Church, party/weddings/banquest at the Polish Hall... The end result is that she can't even enjoy a simple Hallmark type movie because she doesn't get the dialog. So those of us who know the language all speak Polish with mum. I go home to Canada and stay at mum's for 3-4 weeks at a time about 4 times a year now, and FT regularly with her and my sister. Thankfully sister is semi-retired and lives 3 miles from mum, she provides a lot of support. It's def. hard to see mum failing, it's like watching her spark/light being slowly, and now more rapidly, extinguished.
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Post by lisae on Oct 4, 2024 17:48:36 GMT
Yes, those are classic symptoms. It's always a surprise though the first time it happens to your family member. A good PSA post.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 4, 2024 17:57:43 GMT
Tearisci it is very common in the elderly for the symptoms you described about your dad to happen. It happened to my mom she all of a sudden couldn’t remember what she had done all day or what time she got up. It was scary, but it was a UTI
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Post by MissBianca on Oct 4, 2024 18:06:17 GMT
Yep, happened to my grandmother. She swore the Nazis were coming for her and she would speak French not English. I asked my aunt if she had a UTI and my aunt was like I have no idea. Took her to the dr and sure enough, bad infection. It happened a lot in her last years but once my aunt knew about the UTI’s that was the first thing they would test for.
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Post by scrapngranny on Oct 4, 2024 18:14:57 GMT
My dad got a uti when he was in the nursing home. His behavior went off the rails, they tested him and it came back negative. After a couple of days when wasn’t any better they tested him again and it was positive. After taking the antibiotics, he was back to his usual self.
When their mental status is a little impaired to start with it can be really easy to miss what’s going on. I went to see my dad every day, so drastic changes were easier for me to detect.
Getting old isn’t fun for anyone.
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Tearisci
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Post by Tearisci on Oct 4, 2024 18:18:13 GMT
Yeah, I could tell it was really frustrating my dad because he knew he was wrong and just couldn't remember. We'd correct him and he'd go- oh yeah - you're right. I'm glad my sister thought to test him when she did and hopefully he can start on antibiotics right away.
She did also find out that UTIs are a side effect of a fairly new medicine he is taking for his prostate so I'm guessing that's what brought it on.
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Post by Lexica on Oct 4, 2024 18:20:06 GMT
My ex fiancé used to call his mother back in Nebraska once a week. She was living in an assisted living facility. It was like little apartments for each person with a small kitchen in it. But they also had a community living room and dining room where the people could receive their meals if they did not want to cook for themselves.
From what he had told me about his mom before I met her, she had always been quite odd. And when I did meet her, I sure understood what he meant. She was incredibly manipulative and immature. She was pitching a huge crying and stomping fit because I was there with her son and she didn’t want to share him. She told me to go back to the hotel room because he was hers, not mine. He was a 62-year old man! But she cried and threw herself on the couch and demanded he pay attention to her, not me. So yes, she was a strange bird. I just went and sat in their courtyard area to let him calm her down.
Then several months later during one of his phone conversations with her, I guess she was really acting very strange. She thought he was his father calling her. His father had passed many years before. He was telling me all the strange things she said and I told him to call the front desk and let them know. I told him how a UTI could cause extreme confusion in an elderly person and it seemed more logical to me that it was a UTI rather than something like a brain tumor or sudden dementia like he was afraid of since it came on suddenly since his last phone call to her.
He called the desk and they took her across the street to the facility where she could be monitored and tested. When there, she got more confused and was claiming there was a man hiding under her hospital bed and stealing the food off her dinner tray. She was tested and yes, she had a bad UTI. They kept her in the hospital section until she was acting more like her usual oddness. The facility was used to her strange behavior already and might not have been able to pick up on the changes that her son did so it was a good thing he let them know right away.
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Post by malibou on Oct 4, 2024 18:21:33 GMT
katlady , any idea what the cream is that your mom was prescribed? Estradiol. Thank you!
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Post by twistedscissors on Oct 4, 2024 21:11:30 GMT
My dad was in the hospital a few weeks ago for a pacemaker and they discovered he also was trying to pass a kidney stone. I wonder if this UTI is related to that. Yes! I get a UTI every time I pass a kidney stone. But I have no symptoms of the UTI at all.
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Post by mom on Oct 4, 2024 21:37:35 GMT
Am I the only one that did not know you could self test for a UTI?
Thanks for sharing this --- though it is something most of us know, it's super easy to forget. Hope your dad gets back to his normal soon!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 4, 2024 21:40:21 GMT
My mom had one last summer. She was not herself at all and was very confused and not making any sense. She had fallen and we were worried that maybe she had hit her head. Took her to the ER and they did all kinds of tests and finally determined that she had a UTI. She's 91. It’s so weird you should mention that because when my mom had hers it was also about a week or so after she had fallen and hit her head! I remember thinking, “Ugh great, I just did this last week!” Meaning sitting for hours in the ER while she was getting checked out for a concussion or a brain bleed (which she thankfully didn’t have).
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Post by snyder on Oct 4, 2024 21:49:55 GMT
We were told when my mom experienced this, that as they age, they feeling due to nerve loss/damage, so they don't hurt like most do when they get UTIs.
Now add in dementia to that and we are often confused, but if she acts a little more wonky, we call to have her checked.
Hope your dad is back to normal pronto!
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