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Post by mommaho on Oct 28, 2024 11:10:47 GMT
Dh and I are meeting with a Medicare Insurance Specialist from a resource center tomorrow evening to figure out what our options are for additional coverage (A, B C's of Medicare and Supplements). I read an article recently by Clark Howard and he suggests you don't sign up with an Advantage Plan because it is very difficult to change each year during open enrollment if you don't like the coverage you are getting. I know a lot of it depends on your health status, DH is not in the best of health and only goes to the doctor because I make him, he is a Type 2 Diabetic with other issues related to that. My health is good - I'm just a roly poly Grams who wants to be able to do more when I no longer have to face the M-F 7:00 - 4:00.
Any advice or words of wisdom? I am retiring in March next year and just want to have all my ducks in a row, if that is even possible, lol!
We believe we are good financially.
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Post by pilcas on Oct 28, 2024 11:49:03 GMT
Medicare Advantage is for profit. While they may seem to offer a lot of perks they are notorious for denying diagnostic tests. Even if in the end they cover them the drs office has to go back and forth with them causing lots of delays. You will also have less choice of drs and hospitals because nobody wants to have to deal with all the back and forth needed to get approvals and delayed payments. Current health does not guarantee future good health. It is difficult to change because when you initially sign up for Medicare and the MediGap you get a special rate for the medigap and later on they are allowed to charge you more and depending on the state they can charge you more for pre existing conditions or your age.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 28, 2024 13:51:10 GMT
Some providers are starting to drop out as in network Medicare Advantage providers. I would NOT do a Medicare Advantage plan. link
I had a very good experience with using a Medicare specialist to review my needs and suggest Part B & D supplements.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 28, 2024 14:28:25 GMT
Wow, my experience has been the complete opposite. I have Kaiser Senior Advantage, which is Medicare + the Advantage plan through Kaiser. The transition from regular Kaiser was seamless and my coverage continues to be virtually 100%, with no having to try to get things approved, ever.
I guess I can’t speak for other Advantage plans. But if you have access to Kaiser, I highly recommend it.
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Post by snyder on Oct 28, 2024 14:37:28 GMT
Wow, my experience has been the complete opposite. I have Kaiser Senior Advantage, which is Medicare + the Advantage plan through Kaiser. The transition from regular Kaiser was seamless and my coverage continues to be virtually 100%, with no having to try to get things approved, ever. I guess I can’t speak for other Advantage plans. But if you have access to Kaiser, I highly recommend it. Me too, but mine is through United Health. I have been so pleased with my medical insurance. I never had anthing denied.
I also see it as any other insurance if you want to change. You research, choose what you want to purchase and then tell the current company you are not renewing with them.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 28, 2024 14:52:32 GMT
To the best of my knowledge, if you give up original Medicare you cannot go back.
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Post by ChicagoKTS on Oct 28, 2024 15:07:40 GMT
Wow, my experience has been the complete opposite. I have Kaiser Senior Advantage, which is Medicare + the Advantage plan through Kaiser. The transition from regular Kaiser was seamless and my coverage continues to be virtually 100%, with no having to try to get things approved, ever. I guess I can’t speak for other Advantage plans. But if you have access to Kaiser, I highly recommend it. Me too, but mine is through United Health. I have been so pleased with my medical insurance. I never had anthing denied.
I also see it as any other insurance if you want to change. You research, choose what you want to purchase and then tell the current company you are not renewing with them.
Same here — I have the AARP United Healthcare Advantage (PPO) plan. Last year I had two total knee replacements and a colonoscopy. My co-pays were less than $2,000 and most of that was for PT. I stayed overnight for each surgery and the total bill for Northwestern hospital was $275 for each of the stays. The plan covered approximately $200,000 in surgeries at a top Chicago hospital along with the surgeon’s charges.
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Post by silverlining on Oct 28, 2024 15:43:16 GMT
Medicare Advantage is not one health plan. I read that this year the average Medicare beneficiary has access to 43 Advantage plans. Some of these, like Kaiser, are non-profit. Most of them are HMOs but some are PPOs. If you don't like managed care or don't want to see a primary care doctor to get referrals to a specialist, you shouldn't get an Advantage plan.
Meeting with an agent is a great plan. They can explain the different options in your area and sign you up. They are paid by Medicare or by insurance companies, so there is no cost to you. A good agent should ask about your current health issues and medications to provide good recommendations. There is not one answer for everyone.
I wanted to keep my wonderful primary care doctor and have access to specialists within the large academic hospital system she works in. The agent recommended an Advantage plan which allows me to see physicians within that network. I pay only for Medicare B and D and have a zero premium with my plan. If you get "regular Medicare" you will need to pay for a supplement plan to cover the 20% that regular Medicare doesn't cover. My plan gives me access to all the gyms in my area for free, so that's a big savings for me also.
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Post by airforcemomof1 on Oct 28, 2024 15:52:16 GMT
My certified elder law attorney frequently reminds me to never change to an advantage plan. He calls them disadvantage plans. I whole hardly agree. My now deceased husband had an advantage plan and I hated it with a passion. It was a constant battle. I have Medicare, a supplement, and a drug plan. You couldn’t pay me to change to an advantage plan.
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Post by ntsf on Oct 28, 2024 16:14:37 GMT
we have both had very good luck with united healthcare medicare supplement insurance and prescription plans.. not an advantage program. and we have had lots of expensive healthcare the last few years.. and it is easier to have that if you are traveling in the states or have a second home somewhere.
if your income is high in retirement, you will have to pay more for the supplement.. and it is based on income two yrs ago. so there is lag.. if you take out a lot of money to do a project, your rates will increase.. then they can go back down.
try to not change too much too fast in retirement. it takes a bit to adjust. my biggest thing was having dh understand I don't make lunch or breakfast for him. I do mostly do dinner. and we try to do independent activities --not locked at the hip.
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Post by allison1954 on Oct 28, 2024 16:18:54 GMT
Wow, my experience has been the complete opposite. I have Kaiser Senior Advantage, which is Medicare + the Advantage plan through Kaiser. The transition from regular Kaiser was seamless and my coverage continues to be virtually 100%, with no having to try to get things approved, ever. I guess I can’t speak for other Advantage plans. But if you have access to Kaiser, I highly recommend it. We are the same With Florida Blue We are never turned down for anything, lots of Drs in the plan, on and on
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Post by katlady on Oct 28, 2024 16:26:08 GMT
My only advice is to try to get a PPO rather than a HMO, if possible. Over here, many big medical groups are not taking Medicare Advantage HMO plans anymore. Lot of people were/are scrambling to find new health providers.
I am not under Medicare, but earlier this year I had to almost look for a new doctor when my insurance company and the medical group could not reach an agreement. There was already a set date for when my insurance would no longer be accepted, which was 2 weeks before my appointment! I seriously debated keeping the appointment and paying out of pocket. Luckily, an agreement was finally reached. This made me decide that at the next open enrollment, I am picking a PPO. It may be more expensive, but it gives me more options.
My mom has United Healthcare PPO as her supplemental insurance. She has had no issues with it, and she can see a lot of doctors with no referral. Sorry for the long post! Good luck! I understand this is a complex decision to make.
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Post by jill8909 on Oct 28, 2024 16:28:37 GMT
A good friend is an expert in Elder Law and he told me to avoid the Advantage Plans.
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Post by snyder on Oct 28, 2024 16:36:36 GMT
Medicare Advantage is not one health plan. I read that this year the average Medicare beneficiary has access to 43 Advantage plans. Some of these, like Kaiser, are non-profit. Most of them are HMOs but some are PPOs. If you don't like managed care or don't want to see a primary care doctor to get referrals to a specialist, you shouldn't get an Advantage plan. I do not have to have referrals and I have a Medicare Advantage plan. My primary may give me a referral if I see her and she thinks maybe I need a specialist. However, if I think I need to see and ENT for sinus issues, I can just pick up the phone and make an appointment with them.
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Post by quinlove on Oct 28, 2024 16:43:25 GMT
Me too, but mine is through United Health. I have been so pleased with my medical insurance. I never had anthing denied.
I also see it as any other insurance if you want to change. You research, choose what you want to purchase and then tell the current company you are not renewing with them.
Same here — I have the AARP United Healthcare Advantage (PPO) plan. Last year I had two total knee replacements and a colonoscopy. My co-pays were less than $2,000 and most of that was for PT. I stayed overnight for each surgery and the total bill for Northwestern hospital was $275 for each of the stays. The plan covered approximately $200,000 in surgeries at a top Chicago hospital along with the surgeon’s charges. Another AARP United Healthcare Advantage - PPO. I have been very pleased with it. Hopefully nothing is going to be changing with my policy. I should call them just to check.
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Post by silverlining on Oct 28, 2024 16:53:47 GMT
When you see an agent, you will find out about the plans available in your area. If you have a lot of excellent HMOs in your area, you will have good Advantage plans through those same HMOs. In some parts of the US, HMOs are not as common or not as high quality. Here is the official information on switching from an Advantage Plan to regular Medicare. In the open enrollment period, you can switch from an Advantage plan to traditional Medicare (and buy the supplement and drug plan) or switch from traditional Medicare to an Advantage plan. You can also switch from one Advantage plan to another. There are also special enrollment periods if you move or change coverage.
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Post by leeny on Oct 28, 2024 16:57:26 GMT
Both my dh and my Mom have advantage plans. It is hard finding doctors around our area who take Medicare anyway so both wanted to stay with their doctors and not have to start over. Neither have had any issues with their plans.
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Post by MorningPerson on Oct 28, 2024 18:48:12 GMT
We have Highmark Advantage Plans and have been very satisfied.
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 28, 2024 20:42:30 GMT
To the best of my knowledge, if you give up original Medicare you cannot go back. You can go back, but you can be denied because of health reasons, so if someone is in poor health I would probably avoid an Advantage plan. I have an Aetna Advantage plan through the state. It is a PPO and covers tens of thousands of retired teachers, so it’s generally a pretty good plan and I’ve not had a problem with choices for doctors. Cost has been incredibly low. However, I have had a test denied that my doctor had ordered, so it is an issue. And from what I’ve read, it’s much more common with Advantage plans. I would probably have chosen a supplement plan instead of Advantage, and that was an option when I first met with the state ahead of retirement, but the state changed it to only offer the Advantage before I actually retired.
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Post by angel97701 on Oct 28, 2024 22:13:37 GMT
I went with a higher priced supplement plan offered through my teachers retirement. I live in a different state, and had 2 choices. The advantage plan, United Healthcare is not accepted by the major medical system in my area. Plus I have no deductible or copays and can essentially see any doctor that takes Medicare. Happy with my choice. Goes into effect on 11/1/24
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Post by lisae on Oct 28, 2024 23:09:08 GMT
I'm not old enough yet but DH has a traditional Medicare supplement. It's expensive but in 10 years through 9 surgeries and many other procedures such as skin cancers removal, colonoscopies, etc we have paid $90 out of pocket + prescription drugs. $90 total. He's never been turned down for any procedure or had to wait on anything. At the time he signed up, there was a no deductible plan. I don't know that you can get that today.
The only advice I have is to choose a major company. His supplement is with a smaller carrier and the price has gone up more than Blue Cross and the other big name companies. It's almost impossible to change companies with traditional supplements later on.
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Post by christine58 on Oct 29, 2024 2:11:27 GMT
We have Highmark Advantage Plans and have been very satisfied. Me too. The only issue I’ve had is with the dental part. A specialist wouldn’t see me because he doesn’t take an HMO. So I may need to talk to the local consultant that I saw when I was picking plans. I also think at some point my dentist is not going to take Medicaid or Medicare. The only reason she takes the one I have now is because it’s Highmark, which is also a Blue Cross Blue Shield product
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Post by trixiecat on Oct 29, 2024 2:15:06 GMT
we have both had very good luck with united healthcare medicare supplement insurance and prescription plans.. not an advantage program. and we have had lots of expensive healthcare the last few years.. and it is easier to have that if you are traveling in the states or have a second home somewhere. if your income is high in retirement, you will have to pay more for the supplement.. and it is based on income two yrs ago. so there is lag.. if you take out a lot of money to do a project, your rates will increase.. then they can go back down. try to not change too much too fast in retirement. it takes a bit to adjust. my biggest thing was having dh understand I don't make lunch or breakfast for him. I do mostly do dinner. and we try to do independent activities --not locked at the hip. My husband just discovered this last week. He is retiring this Friday and his Medicare will kick in December 1. We are going to be paying triple what he thought his rate would be. So I guess we are stuck for two years, as well as having to get health insurance for myself and our daughter for that time. Funny what you say about not to change too fast in retirement and your husband. I have told mine (I still work at home) that he is going to have to kick in and cook one day a week at least and help me clean. Just because he isn't working now doesn't mean he gets off not helping versus him working/traveling and me doing all the household stuff. I have told him he needs to find activities for himself, like join a club to meet up with others. He likes the gym when he has time. Said he might try to get into golf more. Maybe volunteer. He would like a part time job doing something totally different than what he does now. It will be interesting. He is a type A personality and always like to keep busy and be around people and talk.
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Post by angieh1996 on Oct 29, 2024 3:05:56 GMT
My parents are both on a Medicare advantage plan and have never had a single issue with coverage or seeing PCP or specialists. Both had the Aetna advantage plan.
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Post by ntsf on Oct 29, 2024 3:36:10 GMT
I would also say if you want to travel, plan to do it soon.. as you age, you never know how much time you have to do things. neither of us were interested in more work (and we didn't need to).. and travel and adventures have kept us busy.
my dh always says.. Keep Moving.. what ever you do, be active and find some way to get out daily and be active. it is so important in the retirement years when it is too easy to not do it
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Post by guzismom on Oct 29, 2024 12:15:34 GMT
When you first apply for Medicare, you are not subject to underwriting; therefore, if you have any chronic health issues, this is the time to AVOID advantage plans and stick with a traditional Medicare plan. Switching later can be VERY expensive as your health issues will be a determining factor in whether you are even accepted AND how much you will pay if you are. It can be VERY expensive to switch.
Another factor to consider: where you live. We live in NM; not a lot of healthcare options here. We want to be able to travel for healthcare options...and with many Advantage plans, you are tied to a certain medical system which is limiting. My husband regularly travels to the Mayo Clinic in AZ for pancreatic cancer screening; he could not do so with an Advantage plan. If I get cancer, I want to be able to go to a top cancer hospital; not the little oncology practice here in my hometown. Things like this make me hesitant to take an Advantage plan.
Hubby took a traditional plan when it was his time to sign up; I will do the same when it is mine.
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Post by librarylady on Oct 29, 2024 12:43:33 GMT
Our insurance, offered through the Texas Teacher Retirement system has been accepted everywhere. The eye doctor had a big sign up that no Medicare Advantage plans would be accepted. I expressed regret to the receptionist who then told me he would accept the one through TRS because they paid promptly. She explained that most Medicare Advantage plans paid only once per quarter and that was the problem but that TRS paid monthly and that is why the doctor would accept them.
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Post by mommaho on Oct 29, 2024 14:07:00 GMT
Thank you all for your info it is all very helpful! I appreciate the suggestions on PPO versus HMO, as that is the direction I'm pretty sure I want to do depending on what is covered for DH. We actually won't start Medicare until 4/1/25.
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Post by silverlining on Oct 29, 2024 17:10:53 GMT
Fun fact if you have a birthday on the first of the month: You can start Medicare on the first of the month before your birthday! I retired on the first of the month and had my benefits through the end of that month and then started Medicare on the first of the next month which was a month before my birthday.
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Post by silverlining on Oct 29, 2024 17:12:53 GMT
Sorry double posted
I wish you and your husband much happiness in retirement. For me deciding on insurance was the most complicated part of the decision!
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