FurryP
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Post by FurryP on Nov 2, 2024 15:56:01 GMT
Hi peas.
What is your secret for your cards to end up very flat when completed? Like the professionals that sell their cards on Etsy. Not semi-warped where if you look at it from the side, flat on a table, the top flap is sticking up a bit?
I get some cards that are completely flat and others that are not. I use a teflon bone folder every time, 110 lb cardstock, and try rubbing the fold again when it is finished, but some are just not completely flat. I want to fix that.
Any tips?
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Post by joblackford on Nov 2, 2024 16:16:24 GMT
Many people use temporary/washi tape to hold their cards closed when they photograph them! So it may just be an illusion.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 2, 2024 16:53:31 GMT
joblackford, if I understand Correctly she is speaking about cards that she’s purchased and held in her hands. Perhaps it’s the CS you use FurryP? I use Hammermill 100lb and of I take the few extra seconds to really burnish the fold I can get a very flat card. So maybe experiment with different cardstock?
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Post by FurryP on Nov 2, 2024 18:59:03 GMT
joblackford , if I understand Correctly she is speaking about cards that she’s purchased and held in her hands. Yes, that is what I mean. I have purchased a couple of cards on Etsy. And some of mine are very flat too. I guess I will try burnishing really, really good. Maybe that is the difference between the ones that come out good and the ones that don't At this time I only have two brands of paper to work with, Michaels and Neenah. I don't want to buy any until those run out. Thank you!
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Post by joblackford on Nov 2, 2024 22:09:37 GMT
joblackford , if I understand Correctly she is speaking about cards that she’s purchased and held in her hands. Yes, that is what I mean. I have purchased a couple of cards on Etsy. And some of mine are very flat too. I guess I will try burnishing really, really good. Maybe that is the difference between the ones that come out good and the ones that don't At this time I only have two brands of paper to work with, Michaels and Neenah. I don't want to buy any until those run out. Thank you! Oh, OK, got it. I was thinking about cards you'd seen photographed! When I sold cards they got made months (or years 😬 ) before they get sold and I kept them stored in little plastic sleeves during that time - helped flatten them out a lot. I feel like some of the things that can help like using a lighter weight of cardstock or scoring deeply can also work against the durability of the card. I've busted through the cs with my bone folder plenty of times. And of course you don't want to/shouldn't buy new cs when you already have plenty. The other thing I would check is whether your score is on the correct side of the fold - the "mountain" side of the score should be inside the card. Does that make sense? I think I was doing it the wrong way for a long time.
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Post by hockeyspaz62 on Nov 2, 2024 22:18:17 GMT
Watch Kristie Marcotte’s videos. She does very flat cards most times f the time, and her videos are easy to follow.
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Post by riversong1963 on Nov 3, 2024 13:25:29 GMT
Good suggestions so far. I would add that you should also make sure that the adhesive you're using isn't warping your card. I use an ATG or other dry adhesive. When I do need to use a wet glue, I use it very sparingly. You could also try running your folded card through your die-cutting machine (if you have one) before you add any embellishments to it.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 3, 2024 16:55:26 GMT
joblackford , if I understand Correctly she is speaking about cards that she’s purchased and held in her hands. Yes, that is what I mean. I have purchased a couple of cards on Etsy. And some of mine are very flat too. I guess I will try burnishing really, really good. Maybe that is the difference between the ones that come out good and the ones that don't At this time I only have two brands of paper to work with, Michaels and Neenah. I don't want to buy any until those run out. Thank you! I would be very happy to send you several half sheets of Hammermill to try out. Truly, my pleasure. Drop me a PM if you’d like!
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Post by FurryP on Nov 3, 2024 17:40:56 GMT
Thank you for the additional suggestions, I will keep those in mind. joblackford , I already do use the "mountain" inside. I learned that from a video a long while back. MichyM , thank you so much for the very kind offer. But since I already get some of my cards flat, I was thinking it was more in the process of making the card that i need to fix. I am going to pay more attention when doing the burnishing and what adhesive works best, because I do use wet adhesive sometimes. I'm thinking I might also finish the inside first before dealing with the outside. Maybe I am opening some of the cards too much? I don't always finish the insides, though.
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Post by jill8909 on Nov 4, 2024 10:05:51 GMT
I put my blank A2 card through my die cutting machine, using printer paper as a shim to eliminate any marks on the card. Flat every time
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Post by scrapnnana on Nov 4, 2024 15:58:20 GMT
My thoughts are the same as what riversong1963 suggested. The adhesive you use makes a difference. Liquid glue can warp the paper. Another suggestion that I have is that it might be an issue with the weight of the card stock that you use. Heavier card stock doesn’t warp as easily.
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Post by amysolovay on Nov 4, 2024 16:01:47 GMT
Sometimes I use stacks of books to flatten card bases before embellishing. I tend to do this when I'm making cards with mixed media backgrounds, but it would work even if you aren't stenciling or spraying anything onto your cards.
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Post by azcrafty on Nov 4, 2024 20:54:08 GMT
I believe it makes a difference if your fold runs against or with the fibers of the cs. This would be easy to test.
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Post by Embri on Nov 11, 2024 5:44:31 GMT
The bias of the paper matters - if the fold aligns with the grain rather than crossing it, the card will naturally be more inclined to lay flat. For folds that need convincing, I dampen them with a moist paper towel (just along the fold, not the whole card!) and then smash them under a stack of heavy books & blotting paper to dry.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 11, 2024 21:29:31 GMT
I do want to add as an alternate opinion that I only use glue on my cards, even if I'm putting a full A2 panel on a card base. I just don't use tape runner at all any more. It's probably been a year or more since I completely stopped using it.
I have had no issues with warping or with my cards not lying flat. I use Bearly Arts, and do not over-glue. And I think I mentioned upthread that I use Hammermill 100lb and burnish it 3 times with a teflon bone folder (not a cheap plastic one). Most of my colored CS is also 100lb, so maybe the thickness of my CS is what helps the glue from warping the CS.
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Post by FurryP on Nov 12, 2024 20:43:20 GMT
I do want to add as an alternate opinion that I only use glue on my cards, even if I'm putting a full A2 panel on a card base. I just don't use tape runner at all any more. It's probably been a year or more since I completely stopped using it. I have had no issues with warping or with my cards not lying flat. I use Bearly Arts, and do not over-glue. And I think I mentioned upthread that I use Hammermill 100lb and burnish it 3 times with a teflon bone folder (not a cheap plastic one). Most of my colored CS is also 100lb, so maybe the thickness of my CS is what helps the glue from warping the CS. I haven't been in to making cards much lately, but I am going to check on the Michaels brand 110 vs the Neenah 110. I'm thinking it might be the M's brand OR me not burnishing enough because I do have some very flat ones. I don't always pay attention which I grab because I know the recipient is not going to know the difference. But I do want to finally finish off that brand. Sometimes I use glue, sometimes I use tape runner. I have going to have to pay attention to that also.
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Post by Embri on Nov 13, 2024 4:07:18 GMT
Most of my colored CS is also 100lb, so maybe the thickness of my CS is what helps the glue from warping the CS. Thicker paper does warp less easily. The quality of the glue you're using also matters. I've had the best success with Aleene's tacky glue or Scotch quick dry. Aleene's is more traditional in consistency and has a bit of wiggle room before it sets up, and can warp if you blob it on. The Scotch version does not mess around, despite being a much thinner glue. Once it's down, it's down. For any glue, the less you use the better the results tend to be. One of my pet peeves is watching crafty folk gluing up their projects and they're just *slopping* the glue on, like big fat daubs of it in only a few places. You want a thin layer of glue everywhere, it's not a burger condiment!
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Post by freeatlast on Nov 20, 2024 19:39:04 GMT
Most of my colored CS is also 100lb, so maybe the thickness of my CS is what helps the glue from warping the CS. Thicker paper does warp less easily. The quality of the glue you're using also matters. I've had the best success with Aleene's tacky glue or Scotch quick dry. Aleene's is more traditional in consistency and has a bit of wiggle room before it sets up, and can warp if you blob it on. The Scotch version does not mess around, despite being a much thinner glue. Once it's down, it's down. For any glue, the less you use the better the results tend to be. One of my pet peeves is watching crafty folk gluing up their projects and they're just *slopping* the glue on, like big fat daubs of it in only a few places. You want a thin layer of glue everywhere, it's not a burger condiment! LOL at burger condiment. I will think of this always!
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