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Post by JoP on Nov 8, 2024 18:39:17 GMT
lesley a family friend 'did' the reverse journey from Fort William to here that your XDH would like. This was pre-covid and cost in excess of £7K then. They did provide the funds for this to happen.
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Post by snugglebutter on Nov 8, 2024 19:44:43 GMT
I think it's all about communication and reasonable expectations. Dh and I have discussed our personal preferences, but we have an understanding that especially in the case of an early/unexpected death, the other person can alter the choice if it helps them cope.
If someone is being that stubborn about it, all you can really do at this time is smile and nod. I wouldn't concern myself with an ex's plans unless we had children who needed support.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 8, 2024 21:12:08 GMT
Well, costly things like burial, which takes place prior to an estate being settled ought to be prepared for and funds set aside in a trust or other account that someone would have access to prior to all the wills & probate being completed.
Otherwise, his wishes are not anyone’s commands.
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Post by scrapngranny on Nov 8, 2024 23:27:49 GMT
If he has the to pay to ship his body to where he wants to go, buy a casket and burial plot then sure. Write a check and send him on his way. You don’t have to go. Otherwise, I would not follow his wishes and do whatever is cheapest.
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 8, 2024 23:58:13 GMT
he said he wanted to be buried (after he dies 😉) in the town where he was born. You could always tell him fantastic, it's probably a good idea for him to start pre-planning and saving up so he can get exactly what he wants. If he wants you to be a part of it, you can tell him no worries, (making up an example here) that you'll be happy to come to whatever service within __ miles of where you live when the day arrives - if that's how you feel - but that's the end of your contribution. An ex spouse does not have the same obligations as a current spouse.
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Post by chaosisapony on Nov 9, 2024 4:24:26 GMT
I think the person's wishes should be honored whenever possible, even if it causes some inconvenience. If someone is really adamant about being buried in a certain place they should arrange and pay for everything needed prior to dying.
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Post by jill8909 on Nov 9, 2024 4:41:59 GMT
Not after death wishes. Before death wishes, to the maximum extend possible. After death - a will controls but otherwise, the living comes first
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Post by mikklynn on Nov 9, 2024 13:17:54 GMT
My brother suddenly passed away last week. One of his wishes (directions left with the church) was to have the choir sing, which would have cost over $3K and that was with a discount. Fortunately, he had strong ties with the church, so that's how we got the discount and his estate will cover the cost. Otherwise, we could never have afforded it or honored his wish.
So yes, we are honoring his wishes the best we can. Still waiting to get the will, so we'll go from there.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Gentle hugs, friend.
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Post by alsomsknit on Nov 9, 2024 14:12:28 GMT
First, discussing the after death wants is so important. When Mom passed unexpectedly, we were left trying to remember if she expressed any wishes or what she may have wanted. It was the 3 people who knew her best. It was during COVID and Dad’s needs were the first priority. Still have an uncle (her brother) who is pissed we didn’t arrange the service around his schedule. Dad wants the same type of service. No viewing. Immediate family only.
Under the OP’s circumstances, if the ex had everything chosen and paid for—plot, the ins and outs of transportation, etc…—I would honor his wishes. Have the service locally. Send him to the final destination and let the funeral home in that town deal with the cemetery. It isn’t necessary to see him put in the ground, unless someone wants to be there.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 9, 2024 14:19:44 GMT
Sure, if he leaves the $$ that it will cost. If you have to pay, then no.
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Post by paulao on Nov 9, 2024 14:35:59 GMT
My mother made me promise that my 2 shiftless brothers wouldn’t be buried in Potter’s Field. My sister and I kept that promise. The brothers died within 3 months of each other and we footed the cremation bills. Scattered their ashes in one’s backyard.
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Post by ToniW on Nov 9, 2024 14:40:15 GMT
My brother suddenly passed away last week. One of his wishes (directions left with the church) was to have the choir sing, which would have cost over $3K and that was with a discount. Fortunately, he had strong ties with the church, so that's how we got the discount and his estate will cover the cost. Otherwise, we could never have afforded it or honored his wish.
So yes, we are honoring his wishes the best we can. Still waiting to get the will, so we'll go from there.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Gentle hugs, friend. Thank you, Mikkilyn and others. I still can't believe he's gone. Every time I forward email to family, I automatically include him, then have to backspace his name out.
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Post by FurryP on Nov 9, 2024 17:23:34 GMT
We were just talking about this! We have a family member who has specific wishes on visitation being 1 hour only, behind glass so that no one can touch his hand or kiss him or anything. His kids are REALLY upset about that - their family is very close and they want to be able to touch his arm and spend some last moments with him. I'm torn - it that's what he wants, well I guess that's what you do. But, for the comfort of family, and he's gone anyway, maybe they could alter that just a bit?? Hard choice to make. He has really thought this through in my opinion. Sometimes people show up to the service that the deceased person does not even care about or barely knows. i would not want those people touching me either. About the family...maybe he does not want his kids to touch his cold hands and remember that forever? I touched my cousin's hand and it was cold, and that was about 25 years ago. When my parents passed I did not touch their bare skin because that is not a memory I wanted to have of them. Their warm hands is what I wanted.
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Post by manomo on Nov 9, 2024 18:26:12 GMT
My response is colored by my opinion that funerals and celebration of life gatherings are for the living not for the deceased. So, a request that requires a hardship (emotional, financial, etc) on those who remain is selfish.
Just had this conversation this week with my sister who is currently spending down her assets to qualify for state aid. She refuses to use any of her money on a burial plan, insists that she won't be cremated and believes that my brother and I should gladly pay for all the funeral costs when the time comes. This includes transporting her body and casket to the cemetery where our parents are interred 300+ miles away. If we survive her, we won't be respecting her demands.
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Post by Zee on Nov 9, 2024 19:10:29 GMT
If they made arrangements and covered costs, yes.
If not, not gonna happen.
I don't care at all about stuff like that and don't feel beholden to honor a "dying wish" that is impractical or extremely inconvenient.
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Post by sharlag on Nov 12, 2024 18:24:22 GMT
My 82 year old dad has 7 dogs. Of course, he wants me to find them good homes when he departs this planet.
The 2 Jack Russells are assholes. So is one of the 2 Yorkies. 2 are outdoor, all the time, never groomed Great Pyrenees. In case you're curious, the odd one out is a sweet Labradoodle who looks like a standard Poodle.
I think he secretly wants us to take them all. I will for a time, but not permanently.
And I'm a number one dog loving person.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 12, 2024 18:42:48 GMT
they should be but often times, those left behind will do what appears to soothe their grief more. suppose mom wanted to be buried with her parents but the kids think she should be with dad. i've seen this scenario a few times and i've stopped being surprised when the decedent doesn't end up where they wanted to be.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Nov 13, 2024 9:48:28 GMT
Because of some drama in my family I feel strongly about honoring our dead loved one’s wishes about their bodies or belongings. To me it’s about respect and integrity. And if you have no intention of doing so, say it. I can’t stand for someone to agree and then not do it.
Of course you should not die and leave a financial burden on your heirs to fulfill a wish. Fund that request, and if possible, arrange it. And of course, this is assuming the request is reasonable.
Just because someone died, doesn’t make them a hero, they may still be a jerk. But, I’ve seen some pretty horrific behavior by the people left behind, too.
I’ve honored the wishes of relatives and in laws and an ex who didn’t deserve it, but I have respect for myself and wish to set an example for my kids.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Nov 13, 2024 20:50:10 GMT
If doable, yes. If he leaves the means to make it happen (details, funds, etc), I think you (or the rest of his family) should make every effort to try.
I feel blessed to have been able to sit with my mom and ask what her wishes were. Other than the butterfly pinata (don't ask and I did try), I felt I was able to make everything happen that she asked for.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Nov 14, 2024 11:28:15 GMT
If doable, yes. If he leaves the means to make it happen (details, funds, etc), I think you (or the rest of his family) should make every effort to try.
I feel blessed to have been able to sit with my mom and ask what her wishes were. Other than the butterfly pinata (don't ask and I did try), I felt I was able to make everything happen that she asked for.
How can you leave us hanging like that?
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Nov 15, 2024 2:39:28 GMT
If doable, yes. If he leaves the means to make it happen (details, funds, etc), I think you (or the rest of his family) should make every effort to try.
I feel blessed to have been able to sit with my mom and ask what her wishes were. Other than the butterfly pinata (don't ask and I did try), I felt I was able to make everything happen that she asked for.
How can you leave us hanging like that? 😂😂 When my sister and I were having this conversation with mom, we were asking what food she wanted served. I asked her if she wanted Mexican and she said yes. Then she says and a butterfly piñata. 😳😆. No clue where that came from. And I tried. I thought I could make one. By 11pm the night before her celebration of life, I gave up. But she had Mexican food, her brothers and sisters sang Amazing Grace. She had roses as centerpieces. I did make her signature cake for everyone and gave them note cards with the recipe on it.
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Post by librarylady on Nov 15, 2024 15:13:08 GMT
OP--Is he expecting you to handle his funeral etc.?
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 15, 2024 16:08:32 GMT
My 82 year old dad has 7 dogs. Of course, he wants me to find them good homes when he departs this planet. The 2 Jack Russells are assholes. So is one of the 2 Yorkies. 2 are outdoor, all the time, never groomed Great Pyrenees. In case you're curious, the odd one out is a sweet Labradoodle who looks like a standard Poodle. I think he secretly wants us to take them all. I will for a time, but not permanently. And I'm a number one dog loving person. Yikes! I am sorry. I am 52 and have a two-year old dog that has a life expectancy of 12-14 years, and I have already decided he is my last dog because I don’t want to potentially leave a dog homeless or force my kids to deal with a dog.
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