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WWTPD
Nov 9, 2024 15:50:04 GMT
Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 9, 2024 15:50:04 GMT
This wk at work something happened that has had me feeling frustrated and thinking I should have done something.
I live in MN. we are very passive aggressive. MN nice. I work in healthcare. Where you basically have to get along with anyone and everything. I have a few co-workers that are politically minded like me, but the majority are very christian republicans. We never talk politics. BUT this wk one of our co-workers came in and started ranting to another co-worker about how they had put tampons in the men's bathroom at the college. The football team had thrown them out. She went on to express how sick that was, and how she doesn't want her tax money spent on something so dumb as that, and luckily our stupid governor did not get elected to be VP. I was in shock. I just kept my head down. I have 2 co-workers that are in same sex relationships. One of them was in the office at the time. She also didn't say anything. But earlier that wk she had texted me that she had thought about calling in to work, as she was so upset with the election, and it had been a hard wk for her. After the women left, she came over to me, and said. WTH? I said the same, and told her I was this close to saying something, but didn't. My MN nice. But the more I think about it. I feel I should have said something. Like the conversation wasn't appropriate for work.
What would you have done??
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sarahruby
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Post by sarahruby on Nov 9, 2024 15:58:06 GMT
I am so glad I work from home!! I am also in healthcare. I would not have engaged. I would have walked out of the room or put my headset on if I was at a desk.
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Post by compeateropeator on Nov 9, 2024 16:19:08 GMT
I would not engage. But that is my go to for many things. I also work in healthcare and we got an e-mail informing us of counseling available for people dealing with anxiety from the election and/or out come. It also reminded us that nothing has changed with our health network wide policies regarding equity, diversity, and conversation and actions that are not appropriate for a workplace and most importantly that people need to stand up to and/or report things when we see this. That it is all of our responsibilities. We even have an unit on it for annual mandatories/tests.
Truthfully I was a bit nervous myself, as I have a few coworkers who I know are Trump supporters but overall who I really like and we talk about a lot of things while doing our shift change overs (so it is really only like up to 30 minutes a day) especially after 20+ years. But happily no one has mentioned it yet. I am more aligned with the person I work with on my shift so that is fine. And then I only work with them 3 days a week and alone 2 days a week.
As far as what would I do…I don’t know but I fear not the correct thing. I would try an change the subject but I know that is not correct and actually stepping up and saying that it is not appropriate to have this conversation here would be correct. So hard for those of us that are really non confrontational but want to do the right thing. Sorry you have to deal with it. I will say that it is one of the best parts of my job is the limited exposures I have to people (back room IT/Operations person). And even when required on site I work a shift when there are very very few people onsite in any place I would have to be.
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WWTPD
Nov 9, 2024 16:48:44 GMT
Post by nine on Nov 9, 2024 16:48:44 GMT
The story about tampons in the mens room is still going around? Is this a true story? If so, source please.
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Post by Merge on Nov 9, 2024 16:51:14 GMT
I would go to Costco and buy several large boxes of tampons. I'd put a handful in a nice decorative basket in both the men's and ladies' rooms and refill as necessary. And I'd enjoy watching that woman seethe about them the whole time. Perhaps I still have some midwestern passive-aggressive in me.
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Post by compeateropeator on Nov 9, 2024 16:57:07 GMT
The story about tampons in the mens room is still going around? Is this a true story? If so, source please. While I have no available source, I believe the story is that a law was passed that required school systems to provide feminine hygiene products. A generic provide them. Then it was up to the school districts to implement that and provide the products. There were SOME school districts that did place them in both bathroom as per their school boards and or policies. There were some that did not. It was nothing to do with the law signed by the Governor other than school systems must provide them. I am not from Minnesota so I could be totally wrong and hope someone will correct and explain if so. I am also curious of the hype on this.
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angel97701
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Post by angel97701 on Nov 9, 2024 16:58:08 GMT
No source references, but admin at my son’s HS stated the tampons stayed all of 30 minutes before boys destroyed dispensers. Northern MN.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 9, 2024 17:01:45 GMT
The story about tampons in the mens room is still going around? Is this a true story? If so, source please. What do you mean? it's not a story. It's the real thing. I'm in MN. It's a new law...or regulation. can't remember.
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Post by hopemax on Nov 9, 2024 17:03:28 GMT
IMO, these situations are going to increase because these people feel emboldened right now. People will need to figure out some short phrases to respond with, so they don’t freeze when taken off guard, while still indicating that’s not cool.
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WWTPD
Nov 9, 2024 17:04:10 GMT
Post by cindyupnorth on Nov 9, 2024 17:04:10 GMT
I would go to Costco and buy several large boxes of tampons. I'd put a handful in a nice decorative basket in both the men's and ladies' rooms and refill as necessary. And I'd enjoy watching that woman seethe about them the whole time. Perhaps I still have some midwestern passive-aggressive in me. This happened at the local college. Not at my work. We have gender neutral bathroom at work. My co-workers dh is a coach, so it absolutely DID happen.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 9, 2024 17:29:53 GMT
I would go to Costco and buy several large boxes of tampons. I'd put a handful in a nice decorative basket in both the men's and ladies' rooms and refill as necessary. And I'd enjoy watching that woman seethe about them the whole time. Perhaps I still have some midwestern passive-aggressive in me. This happened at the local college. Not at my work. We have gender neutral bathroom at work. My co-workers dh is a coach, so it absolutely DID happen. It’s my understanding that girl’s/women’s sports teams regularly use the opposite gender’s locker rooms for away games so it would absolutely make sense to have feminine hygiene products in there for them to use when they are utilizing those facilities. Now if you’re talking about regular restrooms in a school, I believe those decisions are made at the school or district level. It was only mandated that the schools have supplies available, for free. I don’t believe it was mandated where they are placed. I looked it up. Here is the text for the actual statute, directly from the state’s website. Bold is mine: I would have said something because those people are ignorant.
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Post by padresfan619 on Nov 9, 2024 17:47:02 GMT
I would have asked her if she kept tampons in her own bathroom or is her husband too fragile to see them.
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WWTPD
Nov 9, 2024 19:40:05 GMT
Post by mom on Nov 9, 2024 19:40:05 GMT
So, I dont think I would have gotten into a pissing competition with them at all. Because, really. Nothing you are going to say is going to change their mind. BUT I probably would have just told that it wasn't an appropriate conversation to be having during work when others are around and left it at that.
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WWTPD
Nov 9, 2024 19:58:45 GMT
Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 9, 2024 19:58:45 GMT
What I would have said in the moment would probably depend on the relationship I had with them, what else was going on, and how I was feeling. At this point I likely would have said something, though. Either about why the tampons were in the bathrooms in the first place and the actual statute (which is usually what I tell people if I hear/see comments about "tampon Tim") or about the appropriateness of the conversation at work.
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Nov 9, 2024 20:02:46 GMT
Post by scrapngranny on Nov 9, 2024 20:02:46 GMT
Smiled with my dumb face on like I didn’t have a clue what she was talking about, then gone on with my work.
I agree with don’t engage. That’s the fastest way to make it stop.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 9, 2024 20:03:04 GMT
The story about tampons in the mens room is still going around? Is this a true story? If so, source please. While I have no available source, I believe the story is that a law was passed that required school systems to provide feminine hygiene products. A generic provide them. Then it was up to the school districts to implement that and provide the products. There were SOME school districts that did place them in both bathroom as per their school boards and or policies. There were some that did not. It was nothing to do with the law signed by the Governor other than school systems must provide them. I am not from Minnesota so I could be totally wrong and hope someone will correct and explain if so. I am also curious of the hype on this. Yes, that is what the statute says. I had not heard of it until MAGA brought it up after Walz was announced as VP candidate. Of course it was taken out of context and people said that Walz "required" tampons to be in boys bathrooms and made it a transgender issue. That isn't the case. The products are supposed to be available for all menstruating people in grades 4-12 and how it was implemented was up to the district. It also does not surprise me that boys would destroy a dispenser or the actual products themselves with all of the rhetoric that is going around from the right. If it would have been explained why those products are in the boys locker rooms in the first place (because girls use them as well) that would hopefully bring about better reactions.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Nov 9, 2024 22:27:12 GMT
I hope the boys who destroyed the dispensers were prosecuted/ fined for destruction of property.
And seriously, if they’re so precious they can’t handle being near an unused tampon at least tell them to stop throwing them away, they’re expensive! They’re literally throwing their tax dollars away
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Post by lisae on Nov 9, 2024 22:38:56 GMT
I wouldn't say anything this time. I'd just decide what I was going to say if something like this happened again. Something about these topics being inappropriate at work and how so far we have stayed away from politics. Continuing to stay away from politics where possible is probably best for a pleasant work environment for everyone - something like that. Nothing this time but be prepared for the next time. I agree with hopemax that the winning party is going to be emboldened and you may hear from her again.
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WWTPD
Nov 9, 2024 23:10:15 GMT
Post by leftturnonly on Nov 9, 2024 23:10:15 GMT
they had put tampons in the men's bathroom at the college. The football team had thrown them out. She went on to express how sick that was It's sick for young men to find women's menstrual products disgusting and don't want them in their restrooms or locker rooms, say a bunch of women. And the governor. This is a democracy, so I've been told. Why not let the boys vote on whether or not they feel these are appropriate items in their private spaces. I never got a tampon from a dispenser in a woman's bathroom. The least a biological female in a men's room can do is provide her own and let the boys be boys without having to accommodate. Shoving this in men's faces is about the ultimate assertion of privilege I can think of.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 10, 2024 0:26:22 GMT
they had put tampons in the men's bathroom at the college. The football team had thrown them out. She went on to express how sick that was It's sick for young men to find women's menstrual products disgusting and don't want them in their restrooms or locker rooms, say a bunch of women. And the governor. This is a democracy, so I've been told. Why not let the boys vote on whether or not they feel these are appropriate items in their private spaces. I never got a tampon from a dispenser in a woman's bathroom. The least a biological female in a men's room can do is provide her own and let the boys be boys without having to accommodate. Shoving this in men's faces is about the ultimate assertion of privilege I can think of. I'm not really sure why they ended up in the boys locker room in a college, but that really doesn't have anything to do with the state statute, which is for grades 4-12 if you will see above. I find Trump flags, clothing, shrines and desecration of cars to be obnoxious. How dare those obnoxious people shove that in our face every time we go for a walk or drive around the town and countryside for the last 9 years (probably to the end of their lives). Maybe instead of swearing in my head or silently giving them the finger I should think of something else to do to them. That apparently is ok.
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Post by moodyblue on Nov 10, 2024 0:36:40 GMT
they had put tampons in the men's bathroom at the college. The football team had thrown them out. She went on to express how sick that was It's sick for young men to find women's menstrual products disgusting and don't want them in their restrooms or locker rooms, say a bunch of women. And the governor. This is a democracy, so I've been told. Why not let the boys vote on whether or not they feel these are appropriate items in their private spaces. I never got a tampon from a dispenser in a woman's bathroom. The least a biological female in a men's room can do is provide her own and let the boys be boys without having to accommodate. Shoving this in men's faces is about the ultimate assertion of privilege I can think of. And if those men's locker rooms are used by women's teams from other schools when they are there for a game/competition? What’s so disgusting about that?
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WWTPD
Nov 10, 2024 1:49:38 GMT
Post by nine on Nov 10, 2024 1:49:38 GMT
The story about tampons in the mens room is still going around? Is this a true story? If so, source please. What do you mean? it's not a story. It's the real thing. I'm in MN. It's a new law...or regulation. can't remember. Didn’t know it was a real story. Thanks for clarifying.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 10, 2024 3:39:19 GMT
they had put tampons in the men's bathroom at the college. The football team had thrown them out. She went on to express how sick that was It's sick for young men to find women's menstrual products disgusting and don't want them in their restrooms or locker rooms, say a bunch of women. And the governor. This is a democracy, so I've been told. Why not let the boys vote on whether or not they feel these are appropriate items in their private spaces. I never got a tampon from a dispenser in a woman's bathroom. The least a biological female in a men's room can do is provide her own and let the boys be boys without having to accommodate. Shoving this in men's faces is about the ultimate assertion of privilege I can think of. It would be one thing if the locker rooms were only used by one gender, but in many cases the schools only have two so the visiting teams use the home team’s other locker room making it a shared space. Visiting boy’s teams will use the home team’s girl’s locker room and vice versa. They are not private spaces. They are guests using the home team’s available facilities. So I suppose the boys shouldn’t have to see hygiene products in the girl’s locker room either when they are the visiting team? 🙄 I never got products from a dispenser either in school, mainly because my school didn’t even have them. My school didn’t have ANYTHING. There were times I wished they did. If you were unlucky enough to not be regular and it started unexpectedly or was heavier than usual, you had to pray that a friend had something on hand they could give you to get you by. Personally I’m glad that my kid has it a little better now than I did back in the day.
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Post by mnmsmom on Nov 10, 2024 13:15:52 GMT
Something somewhat similar happened to me at work. In a high school full of kids of all colors & many immigrants. I'm a building sub. Two other (old white men) subs were talking in the lounge when I was there eating lunch. They can quietly discuss facts, fine, like the day before about the numbers reported in various states. But they were talkng about Ka-MAH-la & laughing about whatever she supposedly said... This is what I did - I politely said not everyone shares their politica views, & I'd appreciate t if I didn't have to hear it. Non-confrontational, polite, but just pointing out it wasn't really appropriate. Thaey shut up. Saw one of them the following day & he aparently didn't want to speak to me or be in the same room as me. Oh well. So in your situation, I probably would have just reminded them that not everyone agrees with them & may not want to hear it. Take the conversation elsewhere. At the same time, I won't be discussing how I feel with like-minded coworkers in front of them. Keep the emotion out of it - which can be hard! I still don't understand how these guys can work in this school & think how they do...
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Post by artbabe on Nov 10, 2024 16:40:16 GMT
I have no idea why people are so triggered by tampons. Menstruation is something that happens to women. I don't understand why people are ashamed of women's bodies. Because if you think menstruation is disgusting, you are telling me that you think women's bodies are disgusting.
I don't know. My nephews grew up with tampons sitting right on the counter. None of them seem traumatized.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 10, 2024 18:20:04 GMT
I have no idea why people are so triggered by tampons. Menstruation is something that happens to women. I don't understand why people are ashamed of women's bodies. Because if you think menstruation is disgusting, you are telling me that you think women's bodies are disgusting. I don't know. My nephews grew up with tampons sitting right on the counter. None of them seem traumatized. And ironically, it seems that the males most triggered by that stuff are the same macho assholes who would take advantage of any female they could. 🙄
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 10, 2024 21:00:47 GMT
I have no idea why people are so triggered by tampons. Menstruation is something that happens to women. I don't understand why people are ashamed of women's bodies. Because if you think menstruation is disgusting, you are telling me that you think women's bodies are disgusting. I don't know. My nephews grew up with tampons sitting right on the counter. None of them seem traumatized. And ironically, it seems that the males most triggered by that stuff are the same macho assholes who would take advantage of any female they could. 🙄 So true!! *** Maybe they should remove the urinals for every game so the women are not offended!
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