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Post by onelasttime on Nov 11, 2024 4:30:40 GMT
These are popping up on twitter. Without proof I’m not buying them. But the poll question popped into the old noggin. From what I read starlink was used only in swing states.
Again, without proof it means nothing. This is all about the question.
I put yes. The man has absolutely no scruples and if he felt it would work and he could get away with it, he would do it in a NY minute.
From twitter…
”So… 13.7 million Democratic votes missing
Elon Musk offered Starlink to help election tabulation
Elon Musk destroys several Starlink satellites after Tuesday
Nothing to see here !!!”
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”Elon Musk tells Joe Rogan he has an app that can tally votes during the election before anyone else
Starlink has now come into question
Dems won down ballot races in all 7 swing states but didnt vote for Kamala for President?
Can we at least agree that Starlink needs to be investigated now & ALL Swing States do a hand count?
I mean fuck! Trump had GA count ballots how many times last
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”Anyone else find it suspicious that Starlink satellites were just destroyed?
It’s almost like Elon Musk cheated in the election and destroyed the evidence.
And that’s why it caught everyone off-guard on Tuesday when Harris couldn’t keep up.
Way too many coincidences..”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 11, 2024 5:00:13 GMT
Recounts sound good!!
For TFG... More is always better!!
Isn't Musk supposed to get rid of all his government contracts? If he has any....
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 11, 2024 5:32:56 GMT
Not that I believe in conspiracy theories but Trump himself was bragging about a “little secret.”
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Post by hopemax on Nov 11, 2024 5:56:18 GMT
Not that I believe in conspiracy theories but Trump himself was bragging about a “little secret.” While some people believe the secret was about the election, there is alternate speculation it concerns funding the government in 2025. This also gels with what Elon meant by necessary economic pain, or however he phrased it. People shouldn’t get distracted by conspiracies that they miss the real play. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 11, 2024 6:02:18 GMT
Not that I believe in conspiracy theories but Trump himself was bragging about a “little secret.” While some people believe the secret was about the election, there is alternate speculation it concerns funding the government in 2025. This also gels with what Elon meant by necessary economic pain, or however he phrased it. People shouldn’t get distracted by conspiracies that they miss the real play. If there is a change in funding that would make a major change to tax codes or how and whether we pay taxes to a federal government that is messing with what we send . |
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Post by MorellisCupcake on Nov 11, 2024 6:05:44 GMT
I’ve never been a conspiracy theorist but in this case? I just can’t believe that a) he won the popular vote when he lost every time. And b) that he won in all the swing states.
If it had been a reasonable election I would hate it but I would learn to deal. In this case? All his remarks about not needing votes and having a secret with the Speaker- it’s suspicious. Plus such a sweep? I know he has his base but I think there are at as many, if not more, who opposed him. It seems suspiciously unbalanced.
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Post by hopemax on Nov 11, 2024 6:21:26 GMT
While some people believe the secret was about the election, there is alternate speculation it concerns funding the government in 2025. This also gels with what Elon meant by necessary economic pain, or however he phrased it. People shouldn’t get distracted by conspiracies that they miss the real play. If there is a change in funding that would make a major change to tax codes or how and whether we pay taxes to a federal government that is messing with what we send . The last debt ceiling bill expires January 1, 2025. A new one needs to be passed by this Congress to avoid US default. And apparently there is a December 20th deadline to avoid a shutdown. www.cnn.com/2024/10/19/politics/congress-agenda-funding-debt-limit-elections/index.html |
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Post by pinklady on Nov 11, 2024 16:26:21 GMT
Dems won down ballot races in all 7 swing states but didnt vote for Kamala for President? Playing devils advocate, isn’t this exactly what’s republicans were told in 2020. Personally, after all the post mortem crap I’ve heard in the last week, I do believe the American people really are this stupid. |
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Post by pinklady on Nov 11, 2024 16:44:36 GMT
Dems won down ballot races in all 7 swing states but didnt vote for Kamala for President? Playing devils advocate, isn’t this exactly what’s republicans were told in 2020. Personally, after all the post mortem crap I’ve heard in the last week, I do believe the American people really are this stupid. I’m quoting myself but if you are curious, go to AOC’s instagram stories. She asked people why they voted for Trump and down ballot Dems. The responses validate my point, Americans are stupid. If she doesn’t save the stories, they will expire in about 11ish hours. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 11, 2024 17:08:02 GMT
I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I would not doubt for one minute that Trump, Elon, Putin and/or Netanyahu messed with the election. I find it hard to believe that Trump won in all of the swing states and I also find it odd that he was telling people they don't need to vote because they already have enough votes. I also think that not wanting to sound like a conspiracy theorist could hold people back from actually looking into any irregularities.
The Daily did a podcast episode about possible ways that there could be foreign interference and the whole time I was thinking that Trump could also do all of those things. But then when he said he had been meeting with Putin, Orban and Netanyahu multiple times that made me even more suspicious.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 11, 2024 17:11:30 GMT
Not that I believe in conspiracy theories but Trump himself was bragging about a “little secret.” While some people believe the secret was about the election, there is alternate speculation it concerns funding the government in 2025. This also gels with what Elon meant by necessary economic pain, or however he phrased it. People shouldn’t get distracted by conspiracies that they miss the real play. Can you give more details on the speculation? |
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Post by ntsf on Nov 11, 2024 17:12:27 GMT
the republicans have changed voting laws in many states to suit themselves. that is rigging the election.
course it would also help if we overturned citizens united ruling. but that's not happening.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Nov 11, 2024 17:38:00 GMT
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Post by hopemax on Nov 11, 2024 17:39:39 GMT
While some people believe the secret was about the election, there is alternate speculation it concerns funding the government in 2025. This also gels with what Elon meant by necessary economic pain, or however he phrased it. People shouldn’t get distracted by conspiracies that they miss the real play. Can you give more details on the speculation? I would prefer not to. I’m not sure where the legitimate and justifiable speculation stops and the engagement bating / conspiracy theories begin. And I don’t want to amplify the latter. Congress and Trump have played games with the Debt Ceiling and shutting down the government before. It’s a known tactic, and bad enough on its own. I just want people to keep their eye on the ball. |
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 11, 2024 19:05:35 GMT
Do I think Trump/Musk/Putin would interfere with the election or rig it? Absolutely, I think they are all willing and motivated to do it.
Do I think they actually cheated or rigged the election? Not really. I’m not completely ruling it out, but it seems unlikely. Votes are still being counted. I think in part, that explains the low numbers. Republicans passing voter suppression laws is another piece. Demographic shifts, Democrats moving to more solidly blue areas and the Republicans moving to more solidly red areas are also part of the puzzle. And regrettably, part of it is just ignorance and lack of critical thinking skills. And conservative media influence - united behind Trump with one voice. Not talking about the negative effects of tariffs on the economy, cutting away from Trumps rambling, incoherent speeches etc.
There is evidence that Putin & the Russians were behind some of the crazier conspiracy theories like people eating pets. Musk magnified those theories on twitter and that may have swayed some voters in swing states. So, I do think Musk and Putin played at least a small role.
I also think that hopemax has a really valid point. Republicans are probably hoping that Democrats are sidetracked and get lost down rabbit holes and conspiracy theories. They’re hoping we’re not paying attention to appointments and whatever Johnson might be doing in the House.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Nov 11, 2024 19:22:59 GMT
I also don’t want to be a conspiracy theorist but there are just too many coincidences. Bomb threats in these states in the democratic precincts, starlink only in these states. Russia being behind the threats after both TFG and Musk having been in such close contact. Both of them wanting to help him. Him saying he didn’t need your vote and his whole we have a secret. The fact the satellites have been destroyed right after, him bragging that he could see the data before anyone else what the ever loving heck. I do believe there should be recounts. Of course if they did and they changed the outcome can you imagine how well that would go over. He said they would announce he won that night no matter what. Since it was closer than we were initially led to believe I hope they do a recount in a few states especially PA. It is strange that so many downline candidates went blue vs red all down the ballot unlike last time.
ETA. I really hope that if a recount occurs that it doesn’t show foul play as much as I would like to see him lose. I just think there is so much division and that it’s going to take at least a generation to recover from MAGA. That said I wouldn’t put it past him at all to cheat. I haven’t really thought he cheated even as shocked as I am that he won. He flipped several counties in California red which is really shocking. I knew I was in a county with a lot of red but thought overall it was blue.
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 11, 2024 19:59:21 GMT
So… 13.7 million Democratic votes missing  Dems should definitely look into that... with the exact same treatment they gave Republicans in 2020. |
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 11, 2024 20:00:51 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 11, 2024 20:47:55 GMT
Make this make sense. Trump winning in 2024 is evidence that the Democrats cheated or the election was rigged in 2020? Trump lost 60 court cases. And in 4 years, no one has uncovered any credible evidence of cheating tampering, fraudulent ballots etc. Interesting that all the right wing claims of election fraud before the election and the day of the election shrunk significantly as it became clear that Trump was winning. There are only 2 results apparently. Either Trump wins or there was cheating. www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy9j8r8gg0dowww.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-check-trumps-2024-win-doesnt-prove-claims-that-the-2020-election-was-stolenThe 2020 election was not stolen. President Joe Biden won the 2020 election. States certified the results, Congress accepted the results and Biden was inaugurated in January 2021. Election security officials — including Republicans and people in Trump’s own administration — have said the 2020 election was secure. When fraud occurred, it was isolated and did not change the results. In four years, Trump and his allies have produced no evidence of widespread fraud.
Across the country, Trump and his allies lost more than 60 lawsuits challenging the 2020 election outcome. A group of Republicans, including former federal judges, examined Trump and his allies’ fraud and miscount claims and concluded that they “failed to present evidence of fraud or inaccurate results `significant enough to invalidate the results.”’
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 11, 2024 21:37:40 GMT
So… 13.7 million Democratic votes missing Dems should definitely look into that... with the exact same treatment they gave Republicans in 2020. I take that to mean that more people voted than usual because they recognized how horrible and unfit Trump was. Why they didn’t remember this time, I don’t know. Perhaps they thought there was enough enthusiasm for Kamala that they didn’t need to vote? Perhaps they were protest votes based on Israel/gaza? Who knows. But in 2020 there was 0 evidence of cheating and there has been investigations the last 4 years. Democrats also didn’t have Musk and Putin on their side trying to sway the election, whether from outright cheating or “just” influencing perceptions. |
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Post by purplebee on Nov 11, 2024 22:19:19 GMT
This is a rhetorical question. Does ANYONE, blue or red, have even the slightest doubt that TFG would rig/fix/throw/steal an election if given the opportunity? Of COURSE he would!
Now I am not saying that this is definitely what happened on Tuesday, just that there is nothing in the universe that would stop him if he could. And his cult would celebrate.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 11, 2024 22:28:05 GMT
TFG 312 electoral votes
Republican Party
74,849,554 votes (50.4%)
Kamala Harris
226 electoral votes
Democratic Party
71,263,166 votes (48%)
Jill Stein
0 electoral votes
Green Party
705,936 votes (0.5%)
Robert Kennedy
0 electoral votes
Independent
681,229 votes (0.5%
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Post by edie3 on Nov 11, 2024 22:29:30 GMT
I think he is willing and able to do anything he wants to get what he wants. I have doubts about that first assassination attempt.
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Post by heckofagal on Nov 12, 2024 0:31:41 GMT
Can you give more details on the speculation? I would prefer not to. I’m not sure where the legitimate and justifiable speculation stops and the engagement bating / conspiracy theories begin. And I don’t want to amplify the latter. Congress and Trump have played games with the Debt Ceiling and shutting down the government before. It’s a known tactic, and bad enough on its own. I just want people to keep their eye on the ball. Do you mean shut the govt down until a they pass a new budget.... or shut the govt down for good? |
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Post by hopemax on Nov 12, 2024 2:36:58 GMT
I would prefer not to. I’m not sure where the legitimate and justifiable speculation stops and the engagement bating / conspiracy theories begin. And I don’t want to amplify the latter. Congress and Trump have played games with the Debt Ceiling and shutting down the government before. It’s a known tactic, and bad enough on its own. I just want people to keep their eye on the ball. Do you mean shut the govt down until a they pass a new budget.... or shut the govt down for good? Not forever. However, no one has been quiet about their desire for a *much* slimmer budget. Elon boasting about how he could cut $2 Trillion. The longest government shutdown was 35 days during Trump's first term over fights over funding the Border Wall. As of today, it seems like there will be a CR to push it to March. After the inauguration and key positions are filled. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 12, 2024 2:59:04 GMT
I have no doubts that Elon will do whatever he can to make the rest of us suffer so he and other rich people can continue to get richer.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 12, 2024 4:43:17 GMT
Absolutely he would rig anything!!
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