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Post by Merge on Nov 12, 2024 17:40:59 GMT
We have seen that style of teaching in charter schools for some time now. Yes. Our state appointed superintendent is owner of a chain of charter schools. That’s exactly what he’s doing here.
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Post by micheley on Nov 12, 2024 17:44:28 GMT
Oh also - since the CDC lowered the recommended age for pneumonia vax from 65 to 50, DH & I took care of that and got Prevnar 20 on Saturday.
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 12, 2024 17:50:47 GMT
To answer the question - nothing and it hadn’t even occurred to me. But we are renting right now, so no need to worry about appliances. And no need to replace my car.
I’d prefer to have a thoughtful conversation about tariffs. I will admit I’ve been avoiding any news about Trump lately. Is he saying he will impose tariffs on all imports or only china? I’m not following why prices on bananas would increase.
I’m in favor of continuing to decrease our supply chain reliance on China, and targeted strategic tariffs seem like a good idea, but not blanket ones
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Post by Merge on Nov 12, 2024 17:54:07 GMT
Bananas, avocados, chocolate AND coffee? There goes my will to live. And good wine. Not a fan of many California wines.
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Post by cecilia on Nov 12, 2024 17:54:22 GMT
We are looking at new to us vehicles. Stocking up on beans and rice. Starting to save more. I plan on keeping Spotify. My other sub (BarkBox) was cancelled after Elvis died.
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Post by katlady on Nov 12, 2024 17:58:47 GMT
To answer the question - nothing and it hadn’t even occurred to me. But we are renting right now, so no need to worry about appliances. And no need to replace my car. I’d prefer to have a thoughtful conversation about tariffs. I will admit I’ve been avoiding any news about Trump lately. Is he saying he will impose tariffs on all imports or only china? I’m not following why prices on bananas would increase. I’m in favor of continuing to decrease our supply chain reliance on China, and targeted strategic tariffs seem like a good idea, but not blanket ones He plans to put tariffs on everything that comes into the country, no matter what country it is from. The amount of tariff would depend on the country, with China being hit the hardest with a 60-100% tariff. Some companies are looking to move their operations from China to Vietnam or other SE Asian countries because the tariffs would be lower, 10-20%. All the bananas we eat in the US is imported. Along with 99% of the coffee we drink. The only place in the US that grows commercial coffee is Hawaii, and they don't grow enough to feed the demand in the US. Wine and chocolate from Europe will be hit with tariffs as well. Basically, EVERYTHING! This includes parts to fix things we already own.
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Post by ellen on Nov 12, 2024 17:59:19 GMT
We recently replaced some applicances, so I am glad to be ahead of the game on that. I’ve decided that I am going to sub some additional days with the expectation that many thing will go up in price.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 12, 2024 17:59:35 GMT
Anyone else planning out purchases for items expected to get more expensive (and maybe hard to get? More expensive for the immediate short term, maybe, but prices will drop as more Americans will have better jobs with less competition as the US returns to manufacturing more goods and the unskilled labor market shrinks. hahahahaha!!! in what factories, where, and for what measly-less-than-living wage?? in your dreams! and where are the raw materials for those goods that will be made in those imaginary factories supposed to all come from? eta: to answer the OP, probably nothing... and my DH thinks things will be cheaper, not more expensive. of course. sigh. Our appliances are 20 years old, but... eta2: seriously, the answers in some of these posts sound to me like when someone asks a really complicated math / statistics question and the person answering states '3' without even thinking about it. These answers of, 'oh, it will be fine' are TOO.FREAKIN.SIMPLE for such a complicated issue / situation. Can't they see that?!?!?
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Post by Merge on Nov 12, 2024 18:07:36 GMT
More expensive for the immediate short term, maybe, but prices will drop as more Americans will have better jobs with less competition as the US returns to manufacturing more goods and the unskilled labor market shrinks. hahahahaha!!! in what factories, where, and for what measly-less-than-living wage?? in your dreams! and where are the raw materials for those goods that will be made in those imaginary factories supposed to all come from? eta: to answer the OP, probably nothing... and my DH thinks things will be cheaper, not more expensive. of course. sigh. Our appliances are 20 years old, but... eta2: seriously, the answers in some of these posts sound to me like when someone asks a really complicated math / statistics question and the person answering states '3' without even thinking about it. These answers of, 'oh, it will be fine' are TOO.FREAKIN.SIMPLE for such a complicated issue / situation. Can't they see that?!?!? They cannot. It's an uncomfortable fact that, by definition, half the country has a below-average IQ. Exhibits A, B, and C in this thread and the others on this topic.
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Post by huskergal on Nov 12, 2024 18:12:42 GMT
I will be buying a gun.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 12, 2024 19:56:44 GMT
Also vanilla (the beans are imported) and any out of season fruits and vegetables from Oct through May.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 12, 2024 20:03:17 GMT
To answer the question - nothing and it hadn’t even occurred to me. But we are renting right now, so no need to worry about appliances. And no need to replace my car. I’d prefer to have a thoughtful conversation about tariffs. I will admit I’ve been avoiding any news about Trump lately. Is he saying he will impose tariffs on all imports or only china? I’m not following why prices on bananas would increase. I’m in favor of continuing to decrease our supply chain reliance on China, and targeted strategic tariffs seem like a good idea, but not blanket ones He plans to put tariffs on everything that comes into the country, no matter what country it is from. The amount of tariff would depend on the country, with China being hit the hardest with a 60-100% tariff. Some companies are looking to move their operations from China to Vietnam or other SE Asian countries because the tariffs would be lower, 10-20%. All the bananas we eat in the US is imported. Along with 99% of the coffee we drink. The only place in the US that grows commercial coffee is Hawaii, and they don't grow enough to feed the demand in the US. Wine and chocolate from Europe will be hit with tariffs as well. Basically, EVERYTHING! This includes parts to fix things we already own. Which means virtually all home repair (electrical, plumbing, HVAC, construction) costs, auto repair costs, etc. will be going up too since most of those materials aren’t manufactured here. And if they are assembled here, they’re made from parts that come from outside the U.S.
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Post by hopemax on Nov 12, 2024 20:14:55 GMT
I remember during the pandemic, there was a shortage of something. I think maybe a medication. The item was manufactured in the US, but the packaging was not. The reason there was a shortage was because of packaging.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 12, 2024 20:28:53 GMT
I remember during the pandemic, there was a shortage of something. I think maybe a medication. The item was manufactured in the US, but the packaging was not. The reason there was a shortage was because of packaging. and stuff like this is NOT simply a matter of 'well, then, buy the same exact packaging from another supplier' because the FDA and other regulations require all sorts of hoops to be jumped through (rightfully so) to thoroughly vet ANY supplier - looking at MANY factors, and requiring all sorts of paperwork - before approving them for use. Unless people want to go back to the days of 'who knows what's in your consumer goods' which, it seems, could be where we're headed.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 12, 2024 20:29:30 GMT
I am really glad that I got a new roof this summer. I need to replace my hot water heater before January, as it is 10 years old.
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Post by micheley on Nov 12, 2024 20:30:53 GMT
I remember during the pandemic, there was a shortage of something. I think maybe a medication. The item was manufactured in the US, but the packaging was not. The reason there was a shortage was because of packaging. I vaguely remember a shortage for medical tubing due to supply chain issues.
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Post by mom on Nov 12, 2024 20:33:03 GMT
We are not going to be doing anything that we currently aren't already doing or have done in the past.
We are debt free other than one remodel loan from when we bought our home & that will we pay off early next year. We are not paying it off early because we dread any economic condition coming, but because we want to live a debt free life. Long term, we would like to purchase a second home with cash so that is somewhat being pushed to the forefront (meaning, we want to have as much cash saved as we can in case there are deals to be had on homes. We want to be ready). Otherwise, there is no change to our financial plans -- live on our budget, save and invest.
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Post by littlemama on Nov 12, 2024 20:47:59 GMT
More expensive for the immediate short term, maybe, but prices will drop as more Americans will have better jobs with less competition as the US returns to manufacturing more goods and the unskilled labor market shrinks. And how long do you think that will take? How many families will starve or end up on the streets waiting for these factory jobs to show up? How will companies deal with the economic reasons they stopped manufacturing here in the first place? How will Americans afford the more expensive goods they will produce? How do you factor in the fact that unemployment is at record lows so there aren't exactly throngs of American citizens lining up to take these factory jobs? How will you balance the need for factory employees with the need to entice Americans back into agricultural work (once all the undocumented immigrants are gone) so we can eat? I think Trump's forgotten that he can't force private companies to invest in a losing business model. And if he's intending for the government to build and operate these factories, that's literally socialism. Like for real. And dont forget that companies that currently manufacture in China are moving operations to other countries, not here. Produce prices will also go up when there isnt anyone to harvest it.
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Post by cmpeter on Nov 12, 2024 20:55:49 GMT
It hadn’t even occurred to me to do anything different. We just bout a two-year old house, so everything in it is basically new. We paid cash, so no mortgage.
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 12, 2024 20:57:16 GMT
I have a lot of different thoughts on this. I’m the absolute opposite of a Trump fan, but it also seems things are broken as is. Shipping food around the world, using underpaid labor to harvest food, etc. I don’t have any solutions, just feel like things could be better especially with our food supply.
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Post by jill8909 on Nov 12, 2024 20:58:01 GMT
other than stocking up on some craft basics before the huge price increases, saving every dime. cancelled a vacation, etc. if everyone does what we are doing, there will be a recession. don't be me
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Post by maryannscraps on Nov 12, 2024 21:52:18 GMT
I remember during the pandemic, there was a shortage of something. I think maybe a medication. The item was manufactured in the US, but the packaging was not. The reason there was a shortage was because of packaging. and stuff like this is NOT simply a matter of 'well, then, buy the same exact packaging from another supplier' because the FDA and other regulations require all sorts of hoops to be jumped through (rightfully so) to thoroughly vet ANY supplier - looking at MANY factors, and requiring all sorts of paperwork - before approving them for use. Unless people want to go back to the days of 'who knows what's in your consumer goods' which, it seems, could be where we're headed. Yep. My husband owns a small manufacturing business that has had its best four years in its 40 year history during this administration. The Chips act has made a huge difference to US manufacturers. He’s very worried about supply chain issues with Trump increasing tariffs. It’s very difficult to get approval to change suppliers or parts for the types of medical devices and clean room technology that he builds. Not to mention that Trump is planning to cut out as much funding for clean energy as possible. DH consults with a clean energy/green technology incubator, working with all the startup companies to get their products to manufacturing. He’s very worried about all the businesses that may very well fold, right when we need those options. He employs a number of immigrants, whom he praises for their work ethic. They always show up to work on time. He needs people who can work test equipment, assemble electronic parts, and work in a manufacturing process flow. It’s getting harder and harder to get people who can work with technology, even in MA where we generally have great schools. So this simplistic view of “making” manufacturers come back is just not backed up with reality.
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Post by jill8909 on Nov 12, 2024 22:09:10 GMT
I saw some trumpers on Facebook getting a little worked up over coffee and chocolate since most of it is imported and they are worried about those prices next year. Wait till they figure out tequila—that will cut into their margarita time around the pool next summer. what did they expect? that Trump was lying?? HAHAHAHA
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Post by jill8909 on Nov 12, 2024 22:10:56 GMT
To answer the question - nothing and it hadn’t even occurred to me. But we are renting right now, so no need to worry about appliances. And no need to replace my car. I’d prefer to have a thoughtful conversation about tariffs. I will admit I’ve been avoiding any news about Trump lately. Is he saying he will impose tariffs on all imports or only china? I’m not following why prices on bananas would increase. I’m in favor of continuing to decrease our supply chain reliance on China, and targeted strategic tariffs seem like a good idea, but not blanket ones I agree with you that we (meaning the country) desperately need a thoughtful debate about jobs, tariffs, etc. But we won't. So another issue that isn't going to be resolved.
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Post by jill8909 on Nov 12, 2024 22:11:45 GMT
It hadn’t even occurred to me to do anything different. We just bout a two-year old house, so everything in it is basically new. We paid cash, so no mortgage. Good luck. And no sarcasm here!!
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 12, 2024 22:28:18 GMT
I have a lot of different thoughts on this. I’m the absolute opposite of a Trump fan, but it also seems things are broken as is. Shipping food around the world, using underpaid labor to harvest food, etc. I don’t have any solutions, just feel like things could be better especially with our food supply. I agree that there is room for a lot of improvement in food supply, eating locally etc. However, Trump's plans for tariffs across the board and deporting millions of Americans are not going to solve these problems/. Tariffs and deportations will only raise prices and increase inflation.
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 12, 2024 22:34:26 GMT
I have a lot of different thoughts on this. I’m the absolute opposite of a Trump fan, but it also seems things are broken as is. Shipping food around the world, using underpaid labor to harvest food, etc. I don’t have any solutions, just feel like things could be better especially with our food supply. I agree that there is room for a lot of improvement in food supply, eating locally etc. However, tariffs and deporting millions of Americans are not going to solve these problems, tariffs and deportations will only raise prices and increase inflation. Agree. I feel targeted, strategic tariffs could be beneficial.
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Post by lisae on Nov 12, 2024 22:36:18 GMT
I am just finishing up a big project at home. It's occurred to me how much more I would have paid for some things if the proposed tariffs were in place so I'm glad we got it done when we did. I do plan to replace my vehicle in the next year or two but with this big project I don't really want to spend that much now. I can stretch it out longer if need be. I'm probably not putting 10k miles on each year now.
I think the tariffs plan will be so devastating to the economy that he will have to back off so I expect it to be short lived. Trouble is, once prices go up for whatever reason, they don't come down easily as we have just seen the last few years.
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Post by Merge on Nov 12, 2024 22:49:37 GMT
I agree that there is room for a lot of improvement in food supply, eating locally etc. However, tariffs and deporting millions of Americans are not going to solve these problems, tariffs and deportations will only raise prices and increase inflation. Agree. I feel targeted, strategic tariffs could be beneficial. Both parties have used limited tariffs strategically. No one has done anything like what Trump is suggesting. His whole purpose with it is to move the entirety of the national tax burden to working people as he eliminates income tax.
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 12, 2024 23:01:34 GMT
Agree. I feel targeted, strategic tariffs could be beneficial. Both parties have used limited tariffs strategically. No one has done anything like what Trump is suggesting. His whole purpose with it is to move the entirety of the national tax burden to working people as he eliminates income tax. yes and it certainly seems like a disaster.
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