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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Nov 12, 2024 23:39:43 GMT
Oh also - since the CDC lowered the recommended age for pneumonia vax from 65 to 50, DH & I took care of that and got Prevnar 20 on Saturday. Thanks for the reminder. I got my flu, COVID and RSV shots in September, but I didn’t know about the age drop for pneumonia until just recently. I need to get that scheduled. |
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Post by seaexplore on Nov 13, 2024 0:00:30 GMT
DH and I bought a “new to us” van yesterday to replace our 2007 Honda Odyssey. We knew we would probably need a new one over the next 2 years and we’re worried about an upcoming shortage similar to what happened post-COVID. We bought new appliances when we moved in 12 years ago, so we are living on borrowed time with our stove and fridge. We have a second fridge in the basement, so if the kitchen one kicks the bucket, we could make do for a while if a replacement was outrageously priced, so we would at least have time to shop around. However, I have been noticing signs that our stove may be on its last legs (one burner had some “blank spots” that don’t heat up well, and oven temps seem inconsistent). I’m ready for an induction stove to replace it, and there are some good end of the year deals out there, so I think we are going to buy one now. We might be able to bundle it with a new fridge for a better deal, too. DH an I both have iPhone SE 2nd Gen phones. I was looking at 3rd Gen replacements on Walmart.com last month but did not order them. I wish I had! They were under $200 each but out of stock now. We can get refurbished ones with a 2yr service plan for just over $200, so that might have to do. We don’t do anything major with our phones to justify the higher cost of the latest and greatest, and we are on a prepaid plan so we purchase them outright instead of getting the “free” phones available with other plans. Anyone else planning out purchases for items expected to get more expensive (and maybe hard to get?) with tariffs? If you have ATT for your phones, wait until thanksgiving time and get new phones. Last year I picked up a 14 for $5/mo because the 15 just came out. |
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Post by Lianna on Nov 13, 2024 6:36:58 GMT
More expensive for the immediate short term, maybe, but prices will drop as more Americans will have better jobs with less competition as the US returns to manufacturing more goods and the unskilled labor market shrinks. The Chips factories are taking minimum 5 years/$10 billion dollars. Funding, building, then training a workforce take time. This doesn't even take into account if companies are willing to build here. Steve Madden has moved about 50% of its production from China, but it moved it to Brazil and Mexico. |
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Post by jill8909 on Nov 13, 2024 12:39:06 GMT
the title of this thread is a classic MAGA move. I love it. Assume facts that haven't happened yet. We need to do more of this. And I'm serious
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Post by agengr2004 on Nov 13, 2024 13:32:38 GMT
I feel that a large unintended consequence of this will be, even IF (and that's a big IF) manufacturing jobs were brought back on the scale which some seem to think will happen, those jobs are not going to be done by people. It will be automated/AI jobs with human oversight and a severe lack of skilled labor for those roles.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Nov 13, 2024 14:54:23 GMT
DH and I bought a “new to us” van yesterday to replace our 2007 Honda Odyssey. We knew we would probably need a new one over the next 2 years and we’re worried about an upcoming shortage similar to what happened post-COVID. We bought new appliances when we moved in 12 years ago, so we are living on borrowed time with our stove and fridge. We have a second fridge in the basement, so if the kitchen one kicks the bucket, we could make do for a while if a replacement was outrageously priced, so we would at least have time to shop around. However, I have been noticing signs that our stove may be on its last legs (one burner had some “blank spots” that don’t heat up well, and oven temps seem inconsistent). I’m ready for an induction stove to replace it, and there are some good end of the year deals out there, so I think we are going to buy one now. We might be able to bundle it with a new fridge for a better deal, too. DH an I both have iPhone SE 2nd Gen phones. I was looking at 3rd Gen replacements on Walmart.com last month but did not order them. I wish I had! They were under $200 each but out of stock now. We can get refurbished ones with a 2yr service plan for just over $200, so that might have to do. We don’t do anything major with our phones to justify the higher cost of the latest and greatest, and we are on a prepaid plan so we purchase them outright instead of getting the “free” phones available with other plans. Anyone else planning out purchases for items expected to get more expensive (and maybe hard to get?) with tariffs? If you have ATT for your phones, wait until thanksgiving time and get new phones. Last year I picked up a 14 for $5/mo because the 15 just came out. We have compared prices before, and it is way more expensive for us to pay the monthly fees for a regular plan just to get the “free” or discounted phones. I can buy a lesser phone that works out to about $10 per month if it lasts 2 years (my current phone is going on 4 years so it’s even less than that), and my total bill for 5 family phones, taxes included, is only $152.50 per month. That works out to a $40/month phone expense for me. I can cancel my prepaid plan at any time and switch to another carrier as well. My plan is no longer available to new customers, but since I am grandfathered into it, I will keep it as long as I can. I don’t care about the phone as long as I can call/text unlimited and access the internet. I have never paid for more data and generally roll quite a bit over from month to month. Two of my daughters have had to purchase extra data a time or two in the 8 years we have had the plan, but they were traveling at the time and using cellular data more than usual. Even then the only pod $10 or $20, depending on how much data they needed. |
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Post by micheley on Nov 13, 2024 15:00:34 GMT
Instead of or at least in addition to bringing back manufacturing jobs, I would have loved to see a new era of the Public Works Administration ala the New Deal. Employing people and repairing/updating our aging infrastructure - bridges, tunnels, dams, roads, railways, etc etc seems like a no brainer.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Nov 13, 2024 15:57:26 GMT
Instead of or at least in addition to bringing back manufacturing jobs, I would have loved to see a new era of the Public Works Administration ala the New Deal. Employing people and repairing/updating our aging infrastructure - bridges, tunnels, dams, roads, railways, etc etc seems like a no brainer. totally agree |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 13, 2024 16:01:59 GMT
Instead of or at least in addition to bringing back manufacturing jobs, I would have loved to see a new era of the Public Works Administration ala the New Deal. Employing people and repairing/updating our aging infrastructure - bridges, tunnels, dams, roads, railways, etc etc seems like a no brainer. totally agree they did some of this during the Obama administration, didn't they? I remember some of the signs for highway improvement projects, etc. And I remember conservatives bitching about them all the way. So there is NO WAY would a R administration ever promote / fund something good for EVERYone. |
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Post by giatocj on Nov 13, 2024 16:05:53 GMT
Luckily, my car is only a year old and I have appliances that are only 3 years old.
I'm having a new oil tank installed within the next few weeks.
I had a new walk in shower installed in August, which I'm REALLY happy about now.
The only other things I am a little concerned about are my washer/dryer. They came with our house but are relatively new...hoping they last a long while.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Nov 13, 2024 16:14:07 GMT
Instead of or at least in addition to bringing back manufacturing jobs, I would have loved to see a new era of the Public Works Administration ala the New Deal. Employing people and repairing/updating our aging infrastructure - bridges, tunnels, dams, roads, railways, etc etc seems like a no brainer. totally agree This originally he said he was going to work on infrastructure and I thought great as this is something we really need. Still no plan for that. It does seem like a no brainer. |
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Post by giatocj on Nov 13, 2024 16:34:27 GMT
He plans to put tariffs on everything that comes into the country, no matter what country it is from. The amount of tariff would depend on the country, with China being hit the hardest with a 60-100% tariff. Some companies are looking to move their operations from China to Vietnam or other SE Asian countries because the tariffs would be lower, 10-20%. All the bananas we eat in the US is imported. Along with 99% of the coffee we drink. The only place in the US that grows commercial coffee is Hawaii, and they don't grow enough to feed the demand in the US. Wine and chocolate from Europe will be hit with tariffs as well. Basically, EVERYTHING! This includes parts to fix things we already own. Which means virtually all home repair (electrical, plumbing, HVAC, construction) costs, auto repair costs, etc. will be going up too since most of those materials aren’t manufactured here. And if they are assembled here, they’re made from parts that come from outside the U.S. Food prices will soar, too. Most packaging and raw materials for packaging are imported. I work in a sector of the manufacturing industry and work with imports and tariffs daily. I'm afraid of how very naïve people are about tariffs. Thinking manufacturing will come back to the US is pie in the sky dreaming. Our vendor are already moving to factories outside of China...like Vietnam, Macao, Spain and Germany. Not the US. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 13, 2024 16:34:47 GMT
We’re good on a lot of fronts (appliances all reliable, new second upright freezer, new water heater, new A/C, added solar this year, just bought a new TV, etc.). We also just hired a new accountant and plan to do a first ever end of the year assessment which our previous accountant never did, which cost us $$$ in corporate taxes last year that could have been spent on a new company work van while DH was driving around a 13 year old beater. 🙄 We no doubt will have more questions now with all the tariff talk. The only other things I can think of is our boiler is over 30 years old and will need to be replaced at some point, and we were planning on upgrading my car in two years when DD will be able to drive. I can’t imagine DH wanting to buy another car now and just have my current one in the way for the next two years though. just had to chime in. My boiler is going to be 103 in February. I'm hoping it's still going when I die. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 13, 2024 17:05:51 GMT
We’re good on a lot of fronts (appliances all reliable, new second upright freezer, new water heater, new A/C, added solar this year, just bought a new TV, etc.). We also just hired a new accountant and plan to do a first ever end of the year assessment which our previous accountant never did, which cost us $$$ in corporate taxes last year that could have been spent on a new company work van while DH was driving around a 13 year old beater. 🙄 We no doubt will have more questions now with all the tariff talk. The only other things I can think of is our boiler is over 30 years old and will need to be replaced at some point, and we were planning on upgrading my car in two years when DD will be able to drive. I can’t imagine DH wanting to buy another car now and just have my current one in the way for the next two years though. just had to chime in. My boiler is going to be 103 in February. I'm hoping it's still going when I die. Knock on wood, ours seems to be working fine too and we get it tuned up every fall/winter. But the issue is that the house was renovated in 2000 where the finished square footage was expanded by about 20% but the boiler wasn’t also upgraded to support that increase. Our first winter here we figured out pretty quickly that it wasn’t adequate for the size of the house and some rooms on the north/west sides of the house can get pretty cold. It’s definitely something that’s been on our list to upgrade but other things have taken priority in the meantime. |
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Nov 13, 2024 17:30:44 GMT
the title of this thread is a classic MAGA move. I love it. Assume facts that haven't happened yet. We need to do more of this. And I'm serious In all fairness, the full text of my title was cut off, I guess due to a character limit. It should have ended with “collapse expected with massive tariffs.” |
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Post by nine on Nov 13, 2024 17:54:36 GMT
Could I get more info on the economic collapse?
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Nov 13, 2024 18:07:53 GMT
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 13, 2024 18:21:31 GMT
Could I get more info on the economic collapse? Well if they come in and start firing federal employees on a grand scale randomly by their last social security number like Vivek and the Sec Def nominee are advocating, certainly the housing and businesses in areas with large federal employee and government contractor and military populations will have significant economic concerns. These will certainly have ripple effects on surrounding businesses and communities. Add tariffs on too? It might be the exact hard times Elon Musk says we need to endure so he can keep making billions. Edited to correct my misspelling of Vivek. |
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Post by uksue on Nov 13, 2024 18:29:35 GMT
Even here in the UK prices are getting ridiculous. I've just replaced my dishwasher and really need a new stove. I also need building work done ( damp proofing) that seems to outpace my ability to save up for.
Our government here are hitting the low hanging fruit like me, I'm guessing it will be similar if not worse in America after Trump takes over!
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Post by jackietex on Nov 13, 2024 19:54:10 GMT
I'm wondering if I should do anything with my IRA.
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Post by hopemax on Nov 13, 2024 21:08:14 GMT
If you are already diversified, leave it be. Don't try to catch falling knives or you'll probably end up making it worse. If you don't feel comfortable with your allocations, talk to a financial planner.
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Post by mom2jnk on Nov 13, 2024 21:38:55 GMT
I have a lot of different thoughts on this. I’m the absolute opposite of a Trump fan, but it also seems things are broken as is. Shipping food around the world, using underpaid labor to harvest food, etc. I don’t have any solutions, just feel like things could be better especially with our food supply. Our current global food systems are terribly broken when we look at the environmental and social impacts. But so many people have no idea what happens in agriculture. The vast majority of people in the US are addicted to an endless supply of cheap food whose production is destroying our planet. But what do you think "our food supply" looks like? Honestly want to know this. What fresh produce do you think will be available in your grocery store in January if you were limited to only foods produced within the US borders? And, at what price? |
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 13, 2024 21:51:37 GMT
Could I get more info on the economic collapse? Well if they come in and start firing federal employees on a grand scale randomly by their last social security number like Vivek and the Sec Def nominee are advocating, certainly the housing and businesses in areas with large federal employee and government contractor and military populations will have significant economic concerns. These will certainly have ripple effects on surrounding businesses and communities. Add tariffs on too? It might be the exact hard times Elon Musk says we need to endure so he can keep making billions. Edited to correct my misspelling of Vivek. The Department of Education elimination and the wrecking ball they plan to take to higher education is going to have devastating effects on employment for people in education as well as the economies in places with educators. |
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Post by micheley on Nov 13, 2024 22:00:59 GMT
x.com/AHCJ/status/1856380891175739525eta: I thought it would show the tweet "Deep cuts in health spending likely under second Trump administration, experts say." A look at potential impacts on health policy and funding in the U.S.
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 13, 2024 22:43:00 GMT
FYI, if you want the actual tweet to show, you need to click on the button second from the right, between the Insert Smiley and Insert Spoiler buttons, that looks like this: </> Then you click on the Twitter icon, and paste the link in the Tweet URL box, then click on the Embed button.  |
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Post by paulao on Nov 13, 2024 22:55:07 GMT
Anyone else planning out purchases for items expected to get more expensive (and maybe hard to get? More expensive for the immediate short term, maybe, but prices will drop as more Americans will have better jobs with less competition as the US returns to manufacturing more goods and the unskilled labor market shrinks. Boy, you drank the Kool-Aid |
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 13, 2024 23:59:50 GMT
FYI, if you want the actual tweet to show, you need to click on the button second from the right, between the Insert Smiley and Insert Spoiler buttons, that looks like this: </> Then you click on the Twitter icon, and paste the link in the Tweet URL box, then click on the Embed button. On my MacBook and iPad, I can change the website address from x to twitter and that works. Not sure if everyone can see it though? |
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Nov 14, 2024 4:16:14 GMT
Well if they come in and start firing federal employees on a grand scale randomly by their last social security number like Vivek and the Sec Def nominee are advocating, certainly the housing and businesses in areas with large federal employee and government contractor and military populations will have significant economic concerns. These will certainly have ripple effects on surrounding businesses and communities. Add tariffs on too? It might be the exact hard times Elon Musk says we need to endure so he can keep making billions. Edited to correct my misspelling of Vivek. The Department of Education elimination and the wrecking ball they plan to take to higher education is going to have devastating effects on employment for people in education as well as the economies in places with educators. Yep. I work for a university, and at one point I planned to retire next year, but for now it’s wait and see. If I retire July 1 like I would like to do, I still have almost two years to go before I get Medicare. I’m not sure what my retiree health benefits are going to look like bc our state health insurance is a mess. |
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Post by giatocj on Nov 14, 2024 13:31:59 GMT
The Department of Education elimination and the wrecking ball they plan to take to higher education is going to have devastating effects on employment for people in education as well as the economies in places with educators. Yep. I work for a university, and at one point I planned to retire next year, but for now it’s wait and see. If I retire July 1 like I would like to do, I still have almost two years to go before I get Medicare. I’m not sure what my retiree health benefits are going to look like bc our state health insurance is a mess. I was also wanting to retire in July, 2025 but now I'm not sure. I'm scared about what's going to happen to SS and Medicare and it really sucks!! |
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Post by peppermintpatty on Nov 14, 2024 16:23:56 GMT
More expensive for the immediate short term, maybe, but prices will drop as more Americans will have better jobs with less competition as the US returns to manufacturing more goods and the unskilled labor market shrinks. The Chips factories are taking minimum 5 years/$10 billion dollars. Funding, building, then training a workforce take time. This doesn't even take into account if companies are willing to build here. Steve Madden has moved about 50% of its production from China, but it moved it to Brazil and Mexico. Actually not entirely true. The company my son worked for last summer is based in Raleigh. They just opened 3 new factories in the US and got a $750 Million dollar grant from the program. |
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