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Post by nine on Nov 12, 2024 19:54:51 GMT
I want to spend around $500 on a new sewing machine. I quilt and embroider. Singer? Brother? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 12, 2024 20:17:07 GMT
I sew and embroider too but I don’t think you’re going to find one machine that will do both well in that price range. That said, I really love my Janome DC2014 for a regular sewing machine. It does have some decorative stitches as well but I wouldn’t consider it an embroidery machine. Mine is now 10 years old (hence the 2014) but there are likely newer models of the same type that are equally good. My guess though is that your dollar will go further with a quality used machine vs. new in the box.
As for embroidery, my DH dropped $1200 on a Brother PE900 earlier this year for DD and me since she really started getting into machine embroidery at school. I realize that’s probably out of range price wise, but again, a used machine from a reputable local dealer might be more bang for your buck. My old machine is a Bernina Deco but it only has a 4”x4” stitch area which was cramping DD’s style, LOL, plus we were having some issues with getting the designs onto the memory card for it. The new one is wireless and has a 5”x7” stitch field but larger designs can be pieced together by using a 5”x12” hoop.
Sometimes you can also find really nice machines at estate sales but when you buy from a dealer you have a better idea of what you’re getting. Good luck! These are fun hobbies when you have the right tools.
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Post by bethany102399 on Nov 12, 2024 22:25:53 GMT
I agree, I love my Janome but your best bet is going to be pricing them used from a dealer.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Nov 12, 2024 22:37:13 GMT
Another vote for used from a dealer. They will be serviced and sometimes will include a lesson or two. I’d look at Janome, Brother or Bernini/Bernette.
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Post by CeeScraps on Nov 12, 2024 22:50:07 GMT
What does your local quilt store support? That way you’ll have classes available to you.
I agree you probably won’t find a machine that does both sewing and embroidery. My machines are separate. That way I can sew while my very small embroidery machine is doing its thing. I use it to make labels for the quilts I make so it’s not fancy.
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Post by ntsf on Nov 12, 2024 23:19:00 GMT
yes.. go to a dealer. they will have second hand machines, they can help maintain your new purchase and usually will throw in training on that particular machine. like a good auto. mechanic, you want to use the local talent.
buying it online or at a big box store is not the best way.. even if you have to travel a bit.
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Post by nine on Nov 13, 2024 2:06:46 GMT
Ok. I was looking at Brother SE 700. Its advertised as a sewing/embroidery machine. It takes the embroidery hoops and does 4” designs. I thought this one looked good but now you guys have me wondering. I’m new to my area so I’ll have to research quilt shops and of coutse Joann always has them. Ugh, now I’m further away from getting a machine. But thanks for the responses.
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Post by styxgirl on Nov 13, 2024 7:13:09 GMT
Ok. I was looking at Brother SE 700. It’s advertised as a sewing/embroidery machine. It takes the embroidery hoops and does 4” designs. I thought this one looked good but now you guys have me wondering. I’m new to my area so I’ll have to research quilt shops and of coutse Joann always has them. Ugh, now I’m further away from getting a machine. But thanks for the responses. If you enjoy the hobby of embroidery, you will very quickly outgrow a 4” machine. That space is just not large. I also recommend visiting a dealer before you buy. Used machines are a great value. I have a brother innovis 4500d. That machine was $4000 about 15 years ago. Still works great. Just heard of someone buying one on marketplace for $800! Embroidery hoop size is up to 8”x 12”! Best wishes! Sorry for typos peaing mobile no time to proofread! Lol
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Post by wellway on Nov 13, 2024 8:08:56 GMT
There are lists and videos online that cover best sewing machine, worth checking out as someone as done some of the legwork. I would use that information and compare with your own list of wants, see if it narrows down your search.
I have a Janome that is years old and I've been thinking about an upgrade because the throat space is frustrating me. I can't make a decision for the life of me!
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Post by craftedbys on Nov 13, 2024 13:02:59 GMT
I think it depends on how much you are going to be using each feature. A hobbyist that makes quilts and small embroidery pieces for personal use and gift giving doesn't necessarily need as big a machine as a crafter with a small business/Etsy storefront.
If you are making larger embroidered things for selling or big quilts, you definitely need to go bigger.
However, the Brother would most likely fit the needs of someone who is sewing for personal use.
I have a Brother SE425. The embroidery area is only a 4" square, so if I am making a quilt label with more words, I sometimes have to stop and adjust the hoop. The throat space is a pretty decent size and can accommodate larger quilts, although I haven't attempted anything as big as a king-sized.
So my advice is to take the type of usage into consideration as well.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Nov 13, 2024 13:24:45 GMT
That way I can sew while my very small embroidery machine is doing its thing. I use it to make labels for the quilts I make so it’s not fancy. Would love to know any tips and tricks you have for doing this! I've been printing my labels on photo paper then attaching them, but am looking for a little nicer method. Thanks!
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Post by lily on Nov 13, 2024 15:27:40 GMT
WHen my husband bought mine he did a lot of research and chose Brother. Something about less plastic parts.
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Post by worrywart on Nov 13, 2024 16:05:02 GMT
I'd say if you are new to embroidering get the entry level (or a used machine from a dealer). Then if you see you like it you can upgrade at some point.
I got my Bernina (it was old then and even older now) used from a dealer and many years later it is still a dependable and fun to use machine (no embroidery). Good luck!
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Post by Basket1lady on Nov 13, 2024 16:16:27 GMT
I'll echo what the others are saying. I bought my Janome Skyline S7 about 5 years ago and she said that they don't recommend a sewing and embroidery all in one because you can get an embroidery and sewing machine separate for less cost. But my priceline was different than yours, so that would matter. I wasn't interested in the embroidery feature, so I didn't pursue that discussion any further.
I'd look to see what dealers are in your area. Bernina is probably the best but also the most costly. US Pfaff machines aren't as good as the old ones, but I'd buy an older model in a heartbeat. Babylock is a big name in embroidery as is Janome. Stay away from JoAnn's or a Costco machines for the most part. They won't have the support that you may want as a new embroiderer and their machines are generally composed more of plastic. Having said that, I had a JoAnn's model of Singer (both no-nos even back then) and that machine was a workhorse that lasted 30 years. I definitely got my money's worth!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 13, 2024 16:18:22 GMT
That way I can sew while my very small embroidery machine is doing its thing. I use it to make labels for the quilts I make so it’s not fancy. Would love to know any tips and tricks you have for doing this! I've been printing my labels on photo paper then attaching them, but am looking for a little nicer method. Thanks! I’ve been making labels for my purses and bags and tags for the back of pajama pants with sublimation. I have a sublimation printer but you can also find sellers on Etsy that will do custom sublimation prints that you can press yourself. Anyway, I print out what I want the label to say and then press it onto 100% polyester ribbon with one of those little handheld heat presses. It adds a nice custom touch. I’ve also seen a video for embroidering on shoelaces, maybe you could do something similar for your labels with embroidery. Here’s a link to it. www.instagram.com/reel/C353NrctyYf/?igsh=MTFwMmd0cXppYmEybA==
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 13, 2024 16:32:21 GMT
I wanted to add that when I got my Bernina Deco embroidery machine decades ago, I was pretty quickly dissatisfied by the limitations the 4”x4” design field presented. At the time I didn’t have the option to go any bigger and I did use it some. Embroidered some clothes and some hats, that kind of stuff. These days there is so much more you can do with embroidery and the contemporary designs are so creative and fun. If you Google “in the hoop” designs it’s amazing what people have come up with.
Fast forward to last year when my kid was in a middle school makerspace class where they had a big commercial Melco embroidery machine, and she was in LOVE. It didn’t take long before she too wanted to be able to do bigger projects than what my Deco would do, and having to mess with the outdated technology / compact flash cards the designs are brought into the machine with was a pain. If I was looking for a used embroidery machine today, I would only consider one that takes USB or newer since finding a compatible CF reader/writer that will work with the embroidery machine cards and my computer was hard.
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Post by nine on Nov 13, 2024 17:44:17 GMT
Thanks for all the new replys. I’m still studying everything, including budget.
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Post by CeeScraps on Nov 13, 2024 19:51:44 GMT
That way I can sew while my very small embroidery machine is doing its thing. I use it to make labels for the quilts I make so it’s not fancy. Would love to know any tips and tricks you have for doing this! I've been printing my labels on photo paper then attaching them, but am looking for a little nicer method. Thanks! I have a Necchi embroidery machine. The hoop works perfectly for quilt labels. I type them on my laptop within an embroidery program. The program is TruE 3 Studio. Then transfer via usb to the machine. I only use one thread color although I could stop the machine and change thread. I bind 2 sides of the label. The other 2 sides are in the quilt binding. Then I will hand sew the 2 non quilt bound edges of the label to the quilt.
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Post by nine on Nov 13, 2024 21:12:26 GMT
How’s this…if I raise my budget to $1000, can that get me a sewing/embroidery machine? I want to quilt and embroider.
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Post by CeeScraps on Nov 13, 2024 21:40:07 GMT
How’s this…if I raise my budget to $1000, can that get me a sewing/embroidery machine? I want to quilt and embroider. Call and look at a local quilt store. They will give you all the support that you need. Go to the shop. Play with the machines. You will know the right machine once you work with it.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 13, 2024 21:43:43 GMT
How’s this…if I raise my budget to $1000, can that get me a sewing/embroidery machine? I want to quilt and embroider. Call and look at a local quilt store. They will give you all the support that you need. Go to the shop. Play with the machines. You will know the right machine once you work with it. This. You really have to go there and test drive some machines to see what will be the right fit. I did that when I bought my Janome and the staff people were so helpful.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Nov 13, 2024 21:46:00 GMT
How’s this…if I raise my budget to $1000, can that get me a sewing/embroidery machine? I want to quilt and embroider. I just looked at the sewing store near me and you need a budget of $3500 Canadian or more to do what you want. Maybe in USD you’re looking at $2400. You won’t get much for $1000.
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Post by nine on Nov 13, 2024 22:44:08 GMT
Ok, here’s what I’m going to do. Get just a quilting machine and stick to hand embroidery. I’ll go to local stores and test drive some models. Thanks all.
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Post by CeeScraps on Nov 13, 2024 23:14:58 GMT
Ok, here’s what I’m going to do. Get just a quilting machine and stick to hand embroidery. I’ll go to local stores and test drive some models. Thanks all. You can get an embroidery machine later on.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Nov 13, 2024 23:28:08 GMT
Ok, here’s what I’m going to do. Get just a quilting machine and stick to hand embroidery. I’ll go to local stores and test drive some models. Thanks all. I think that is a wise choice. Definitely do some 'test drives' and be open to trade-in machines. You can usually get a lot more machine for a good bit less. As for machine embroidery, perhaps you could find a class for that so that you could try it out first hand before committing to the cost of a machine. Several years ago I attended an all day machine embroidery event. There were 3 levels of machines from single needle to 10 needle machines and you spent time on each one, making small projects. For this one all the machines were Brother.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 13, 2024 23:32:53 GMT
you can get a higher end machine gently used from an authorized dealer. people upgrade and trade in their machines all the time. i assume the dealer services them before putting them out for sale. my bernina dealer also sells brother and i bought a Scan n Cut (electronic die cutter not sewing machine). it was in perfect condition, box, mats and all. the previous owner just upgraded to a more expensive model. great for me because it was an great entry into those kinds of machines.
speaking of bernina, my vote is for that brand. i have two bernina sewing machines both purchased used. these were thousand dollar machines when they were new. once you have a well made machine, there is no going back. i gave my purchased-new brother machine to my niece.
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