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Post by micheley on Nov 14, 2024 3:20:19 GMT
Okay he makes some terrific points, and I very much like his snark. The people he picks tend to be a grab bag of personality disorders who squabble and fight for power, he tends to screw them over when they annoy him, and they’re all quite annoying.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 14, 2024 3:42:14 GMT
All I can say is that Hillary barely scratched the surface when she called these freaks a basket of deplorables. If even a fourth of these picks go through, we are well and totally screwed. I honestly don’t know how we as a nation would be able to come back from this level of incompetence. Russia, China, North Korea etc. are going to have a heyday with this. It has to be almost better than anything they could have ever dreamed of.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 14, 2024 3:50:55 GMT
Is the circus complete yet? I am sure it is just starting Brings to mind some of the scenes from GoT when Joffrey* was the king, and the people have to do whatever boot-licking, ass-kissing thing he orders them to do— so they totally debase and humiliate themselves in public— otherwise he’ll kill them just for fun. Huh. Good times ahead, yo. * for those who never watched Game of Thrones, Joffrey= certified sociopathic child-king, lacking any morals whatsoever; progeny of his mother sleeping with her twin brother. (Was never SOOO glad when a character got killed off as I was when he finally got offed!)
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Post by hopemax on Nov 14, 2024 4:17:51 GMT
I like and follow Ken White. I'd say he's not immune to cope. One of the Project 2025 guys apparently was yapping about the Executive Orders he's already written. I don't necessarily believe the faces will be the ones making the decisions. They will be handed marching orders, and because they know nothing and don't care, will follow the script. First term, I think they tried to play by most of the rules. This time, I think the goal is to raid, pillage, and set the house on fire. You don't need competence for that.
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 14, 2024 5:40:38 GMT
Maybe another reason to hope? Republicans cave to Trump on almost everything but maybe the Senate Republicans in voting for Thune, not Scott, will stand up to him on a few things. heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/november-13-2024Republican establishment leaders have always wanted to dismantle the New Deal state that began under Democratic president Franklin Delano Roosevelt and continued under Republican president Dwight D. Eisenhower and presidents of both parties until 1981. But they have never wanted to dismantle the rule of law on which the United States is founded or the international rules-based order on which foreign trade depends. Aside from moral and intellectual principles, the rule of law is the foundation on which the security of property rests: there is a reason that foreign oligarchs park their money in democracies. And it is the international rules-based order that protects the freedom of the seas on which the movement of container ships, for example, depends. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was himself a wealthy man, and in the 1930s he tried to explain to angry critics on the right that his efforts to address the nation’s inequalities were not an attack on American capitalism, but rather an attempt to save it from the communism or fascism that would destroy the rule of law.
“I want to save our system, the capitalistic system,” FDR wrote to a friend in 1935. “[T]o save it is to give some heed to world thought of today.”
The protections of the system FDR ushered in—the banking and equities regulation that killed crony finance, for example—are now under attack by the very sort of movement he warned against. Whether today’s lawmakers are as willing as their predecessors were to stand against that movement remains unclear, especially as Trump tries to bring lawmakers to heel, but Thune’s victory in the Senate today and the widespread Republican outrage over Trump’s appointment of Gaetz and Hegseth are hopeful signs.
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Post by jill8909 on Nov 14, 2024 8:22:45 GMT
Just to clarify as I used to work in this field, Trump didn't nominate anyone yet. Only Presidents can nominate. The media should be saying he issued a press release to intends to nominate.
When following law and procedure (HA) a President issues an "intent to nominate." This was done ONLY after an FBI background check and clearance from lawyers in the WH counsel's office and the relevant agency for conflicts, financial disclosure, etc.
Then the President actually nominates and the lawyers work with the lawyers for the relevant senate committee.
But that was all before MAGA, where the rules don't apply.
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Post by jill8909 on Nov 14, 2024 8:25:17 GMT
also wanted to say that some of your comments are good food for thought. thanks
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 14, 2024 9:34:06 GMT
That did make me feel better. I hope that the folks on Bluesky are wrong about this being a ruse to help Gaetz avoid ethics troubles and planning to install a Paxton type at a later date.
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Post by Merge on Nov 14, 2024 11:01:50 GMT
That did make me feel better. I hope that the folks on Bluesky are wrong about this being a ruse to help Gaetz avoid ethics troubles and planning to install a Paxton type at a later date. I know. I’m wavering between horror that Paxton will get the nod and the thought that it’s the only way we’ll get him out of Texas.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 14, 2024 11:24:08 GMT
Just THow perfect is THAT..!!..!! JUNK DRAWER..!!..!!
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 14, 2024 11:25:59 GMT
That did make me feel better. I hope that the folks on Bluesky are wrong about this being a ruse to help Gaetz avoid ethics troubles and planning to install a Paxton type at a later date. I know. I’m wavering between horror that Paxton will get the nod and the thought that it’s the only way we’ll get him out of Texas. I get it. I feel the same way about Vance.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 14, 2024 11:30:31 GMT
Just to clarify as I used to work in this field, Trump didn't nominate anyone yet. Only Presidents can nominate. The media should be saying he issued a press release to intends to nominate. When following law and procedure (HA) a President issues an "intent to nominate." This was done ONLY after an FBI background check and clearance from lawyers in the WH counsel's office and the relevant agency for conflicts, financial disclosure, etc. Then the President actually nominates and the lawyers work with the lawyers for the relevant senate committee. But that was all before MAGA, where the rules don't apply. Also, TFG and his crew have not signed the ethics papers etc to move forward. He says he will not, although HE signed them into law!!!
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Post by gracieplusthree on Nov 14, 2024 13:42:42 GMT
An accused sex trafficker for attorney general. That definitely tracks. A known white supremist to as deputy chief of policy also tracks with this administration. Department of Government Efficiency isn't even an official department. He's just making shit up now. Why not put Elon as the first lady? Melania clearly doesn't give a damn. Speaking of which evidently Stephen King got kicked off *twitter* for calling Elon th e first lady 🤣🤣
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Post by lizacreates on Nov 14, 2024 14:26:35 GMT
Maybe another reason to hope? Republicans cave to Trump on almost everything but maybe the Senate Republicans in voting for Thune, not Scott, will stand up to him on a few things. heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/november-13-2024Republican establishment leaders have always wanted to dismantle the New Deal state that began under Democratic president Franklin Delano Roosevelt and continued under Republican president Dwight D. Eisenhower and presidents of both parties until 1981. But they have never wanted to dismantle the rule of law on which the United States is founded or the international rules-based order on which foreign trade depends. Aside from moral and intellectual principles, the rule of law is the foundation on which the security of property rests: there is a reason that foreign oligarchs park their money in democracies. And it is the international rules-based order that protects the freedom of the seas on which the movement of container ships, for example, depends. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was himself a wealthy man, and in the 1930s he tried to explain to angry critics on the right that his efforts to address the nation’s inequalities were not an attack on American capitalism, but rather an attempt to save it from the communism or fascism that would destroy the rule of law.
“I want to save our system, the capitalistic system,” FDR wrote to a friend in 1935. “[T]o save it is to give some heed to world thought of today.”
The protections of the system FDR ushered in—the banking and equities regulation that killed crony finance, for example—are now under attack by the very sort of movement he warned against. Whether today’s lawmakers are as willing as their predecessors were to stand against that movement remains unclear, especially as Trump tries to bring lawmakers to heel, but Thune’s victory in the Senate today and the widespread Republican outrage over Trump’s appointment of Gaetz and Hegseth are hopeful signs. I don’t know. I’m not that optimistic about it. At first blush, yes, better to have a non-MAGA Thune than Scott, but still…will he really temper the most outrageous parts of Trump’s agenda? (And I think the only reason Thune prevailed is because this was secret voting; if it had been otherwise, how many of those R senators would have bucked Trump’s choice of Scott?) Thune knows Trump is a despot and a demagogue and he still voted no on impeachment and endorsed Trump, didn’t he? I checked and S Dakota was over 70% for Trump, more than 2016 and 2020. Somebody tell me that's not foremost in his mind. Time will tell, I guess. At this moment, I can’t find anything to be hopeful for except maybe a win in two years. Right now, I’m just steeling myself for the worst.
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Post by Merge on Nov 14, 2024 14:59:32 GMT
Of interest to me is that, when Obama tried to use recess appointments to make an end-run around Republican obstruction of his nominees, SCOTUS struck those down. Said he couldn't do it. rollcall.com/2014/06/26/supreme-court-strikes-down-obamas-recess-appointments/Several current SCOTUS members were on that court. One wonders if they'll shut Trump down the same way. But probably not. Also a funny comment I saw in relation to these appointments: "That's not a cabinet. It's a junk drawer!"
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 14, 2024 17:06:12 GMT
An accused sex trafficker for attorney general. That definitely tracks. A known white supremist to as deputy chief of policy also tracks with this administration. Department of Government Efficiency isn't even an official department. He's just making shit up now. Why not put Elon as the first lady? Melania clearly doesn't give a damn. Speaking of which evidently Stephen King got kicked off *twitter* for calling Elon th e first lady 🤣🤣 Eloon might as well apply for the position since it doesn’t seem like Melania is even remotely interested, LOL.
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Post by hopemax on Nov 14, 2024 17:29:13 GMT
So the news today is the Gaetz nomination happened on the plane to visit the White House. Gaetz and Boris Epshteyn were on the plane with Trump, lobbying him for it. His new Chief of Staff was in a different room, and not part of the discussion.
So I retract my suspicion that this was an intentional plan to put up someone worse later. That may still end up happening, if the reaction among the GOP is strong enough. They may decide it functioned as a pretty good loyalty test, to identify and retaliate against people who come out against the nomination. Again, this would be hilarious if the stakes weren't so high.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 14, 2024 17:45:25 GMT
Merge or worded this way: A comment on a TikTok video that a pea thought was perfect: He's not building a cabinet, he's building a junk drawer.
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Post by gracieplusthree on Nov 14, 2024 19:33:20 GMT
Speaking of which evidently Stephen King got kicked off *twitter* for calling Elon th e first lady 🤣🤣 Eloon might as well apply for the position since it doesn’t seem like Melania is even remotely interested, LOL. I can't blame her not wanting to be around Trump
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Post by Merge on Nov 14, 2024 20:51:07 GMT
Unsurprisingly, Trump plans to nominate anti-vax conspiracy theorist Robert Kennedy, Jr. to be head of HHS. The mind boggles.
(As a side note, I get the strong impression that MAGA or "MAHA" thinks that if Kennedy is in charge and waves his magic wand over the food and drug supply, they'll all be thin and jacked with no effort whatsoever.)
ETA: another note - This filling of government positions with Trump's ultra-loyalists rather than the best and most qualified people IS Project 2025 in action. Don't tell me that isn't his plan.
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Post by micheley on Nov 14, 2024 20:56:59 GMT
Elon Musk's new 'department' seeks 'super high-IQ' staff for unpaid jobs Musk said Thursday that “compensation is zero” for the “revolutionaries” who will advise on cuts to the federal budget.
Christ on a cracker.
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Post by hopemax on Nov 14, 2024 21:14:25 GMT
Unsurprisingly, Trump plans to nominate anti-vax conspiracy theorist Robert Kennedy, Jr. to be head of HHS. The mind boggles. (As a side note, I get the strong impression that MAGA or "MAHA" thinks that if Kennedy is in charge and waves his magic wand over the food and drug supply, they'll all be thin and jacked with no effort whatsoever.) ETA: another note - This filling of government positions with Trump's ultra-loyalists rather than the best and most qualified people IS Project 2025 in action. Don't tell me that isn't his pan. If it wasn't for all the anti-vax stuff, and that he wants a whole bunch of snake oil products to be approved while banning what he thinks are snake oil products, I'd let him have a field day with food manufacturers. It may not be a thing Democrats can do because of the whole "anti-business" "nanny state" accusations. So I will wish him luck in this area only; on aligning US food standards more to match European standards. But I think I'm gonna need a whole lot of popcorn while he does it. And something else, when he gets going on the vaccine and drugs.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 14, 2024 21:23:40 GMT
He has pick RFKJr to lead Health & Human Services..
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 14, 2024 21:30:23 GMT
Unsurprisingly, Trump plans to nominate anti-vax conspiracy theorist Robert Kennedy, Jr. to be head of HHS. The mind boggles. (As a side note, I get the strong impression that MAGA or "MAHA" thinks that if Kennedy is in charge and waves his magic wand over the food and drug supply, they'll all be thin and jacked with no effort whatsoever.) ETA: another note - This filling of government positions with Trump's ultra-loyalists rather than the best and most qualified people IS Project 2025 in action. Don't tell me that isn't his pan. It is amazing to me both how deeply unserious all of these pics and people are and how much damage they are going to do nevertheless.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 14, 2024 21:30:57 GMT
Little late Ben Domenech.... Co-founder of The Federalist and far-right commentator Ben Domenech is telling Republican Senators that if they approve former Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) as attorney general, they'll own the decision forever.Domenech attacked Gaetz in "The Transom" newsletter on Thursday, calling him a "piece of s--t" and slinging allegations about sex trafficking and drug use, both of which Gaetz has been investigated for but which he denies. Domenech, who is married to former Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) daughter Meghan, recalled Sen. Markwayne Mullin's (R-OK) allegations that Gaetz boasted to him of his exploits. Gaetz has denied that as well, CNN reported at the time. "Every Republican in Washington has an opinion about Matt Gaetz, and 99 percent of those opinions are 'Keep Matt Gaetz away from my wife/daughter/friend and anyone I care about,'” wrote Domenech. Gaetz was investigated by the Justice Department and he was told that he would not be charged, as NBC News reported at the time. A House ethics investigation was ongoing when he resigned Wednesday. "If you vote for him to be the Attorney General of the United States, you don’t just need your head examined, you need to be committed to a mental institution," he continued. "The man is absolutely vile. There are pools of vomit with more to offer the earth than this ... failure of fallen masculinity." He went through the list of allegations against Gaetz with his own fact-checks before telling Republicans that the line that will determine the direction of the party's future has arrived. "If they are truly a cult of personality, beholden to Donald Trump in ways that we could not even imagine for a party that rejects cults and idol worship, they will approve this choice," said Domenech. "But if they have a degree of independence, any kind of free thought, mindful of the fact that a presidency is four years but your career is forever, they will reject this choice so emphatically that it sends a very simple, straightforward message" that either someone votes for Gaetz "or you can be a Republican. The choice is yours." www.rawstory.com/matt-gaetz-ben-domenech/
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 14, 2024 21:35:53 GMT
Unsurprisingly, Trump plans to nominate anti-vax conspiracy theorist Robert Kennedy, Jr. to be head of HHS. The mind boggles. (As a side note, I get the strong impression that MAGA or "MAHA" thinks that if Kennedy is in charge and waves his magic wand over the food and drug supply, they'll all be thin and jacked with no effort whatsoever.) ETA: another note - This filling of government positions with Trump's ultra-loyalists rather than the best and most qualified people IS Project 2025 in action. Don't tell me that isn't his pan. These Cabinet picks are just a klown Kar at this point. RFK Jr. is a nutter. Gaetz is a shallow attention hound. Musk is…Musk.Hegseth, or whatever his name is, served honorably and got 2 bronze stars. That does not make him qualified to head a huge department with a huge budget like Defense. Will Senate Republicans stand up to Trump? I doubt it. Well, this is on them now. If things go well-ha!- they will get the credit. If things go badly, and they probably will, they will be rightly blamed.
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Post by micheley on Nov 14, 2024 21:36:47 GMT
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Post by mich5481 on Nov 14, 2024 22:07:04 GMT
Little late Ben Domenech.... Co-founder of The Federalist and far-right commentator Ben Domenech is telling Republican Senators that if they approve former Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) as attorney general, they'll own the decision forever.Domenech attacked Gaetz in "The Transom" newsletter on Thursday, calling him a "piece of s--t" and slinging allegations about sex trafficking and drug use, both of which Gaetz has been investigated for but which he denies. Domenech, who is married to former Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) daughter Meghan, recalled Sen. Markwayne Mullin's (R-OK) allegations that Gaetz boasted to him of his exploits. Gaetz has denied that as well, CNN reported at the time. "Every Republican in Washington has an opinion about Matt Gaetz, and 99 percent of those opinions are 'Keep Matt Gaetz away from my wife/daughter/friend and anyone I care about,'” wrote Domenech. Gaetz was investigated by the Justice Department and he was told that he would not be charged, as NBC News reported at the time. A House ethics investigation was ongoing when he resigned Wednesday. "If you vote for him to be the Attorney General of the United States, you don’t just need your head examined, you need to be committed to a mental institution," he continued. "The man is absolutely vile. There are pools of vomit with more to offer the earth than this ... failure of fallen masculinity." He went through the list of allegations against Gaetz with his own fact-checks before telling Republicans that the line that will determine the direction of the party's future has arrived. "If they are truly a cult of personality, beholden to Donald Trump in ways that we could not even imagine for a party that rejects cults and idol worship, they will approve this choice," said Domenech. "But if they have a degree of independence, any kind of free thought, mindful of the fact that a presidency is four years but your career is forever, they will reject this choice so emphatically that it sends a very simple, straightforward message" that either someone votes for Gaetz "or you can be a Republican. The choice is yours." www.rawstory.com/matt-gaetz-ben-domenech/Here's a little irony. Ben went to William and Mary for undergrad, but left before graduating to become a political speech writer. Matt went to law school at William and Mary. Interestingly enough, he did his 3rd year of studies at Florida State's law school.
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