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Post by librarylady on Nov 20, 2024 20:43:40 GMT
..families who make less than $100,000 per year. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Students whose families make less than $100,000 annually will get free tuition and waived fees at any of the academic universities in the University of Texas System, the board of regents announced Wednesday.
The initiative is an expansion of the Promise Plus Program, a need-based financial aid program approved by the board in 2022.
Starting in fall 2025, students accepted into UT academic universities, such as UT Dallas and UT Arlington, will have 100% of their tuition and fees paid for if they qualify.
UT System Chancellor James B. Milliken said this program is a “game changer” that will make “enormous, real difference” to improve college access for all Texans. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 20, 2024 20:49:14 GMT
But will they charge on a sliding scale up from there, or is the family making $110K just out of luck?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 20, 2024 20:53:40 GMT
This will likely be stoped by Abbott and Paxton etc..
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 20, 2024 21:43:33 GMT
A lot of other schools already do this - Harvard, Stanford, UNC.
NYU medical school is also free. My kid’s girlfriend will be applying - but so hard to get into it’s doubtful…
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Post by agengr2004 on Nov 20, 2024 21:46:28 GMT
I really wish they would offer discounted tuition for children of employees. Texas State does.
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Post by librarylady on Nov 20, 2024 22:22:47 GMT
I really wish they would offer discounted tuition for children of employees. Texas State does. Are the employees making 100,000+? |
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Post by Zee on Nov 20, 2024 22:41:10 GMT
I got my BSN online through UTA (Arlington). It was a really good program. I hope this encourages more nursing students!
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Post by agengr2004 on Nov 20, 2024 23:24:18 GMT
I really wish they would offer discounted tuition for children of employees. Texas State does. Are the employees making 100,000+? Some are, yes. But if you have both parents working for the same system the you can easily exceed that amount. |
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 21, 2024 0:39:31 GMT
Not only do I think it's great, I think that all public universities should do this. It's a shame that we've shifted public higher education funding to tuition; it's a public good. Even in 1990, when I started college, it was cheaper for me to attend my elite private college than the flagship public university in my state, and that was with the maximum merit-based scholarship at that public university at the time. It makes literally no sense.
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Post by smasonnc on Nov 21, 2024 12:14:33 GMT
There a merit piece in addition to family income? In my state, kids with high GPAs and placement scores attend state universities for free. The next tier gets a discount. They have to keep their grades up to stay in the program. University of Florida's admissions standards are higher than Bright Futures so almost everyone goes for very low tuition.
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Post by smasonnc on Nov 21, 2024 12:22:21 GMT
By all means, fight against educating your citizens. Not a snarky question, how much income tax does someone who makes $45/year pay? Is he correct here?
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Post by melanell on Nov 21, 2024 12:38:43 GMT
By all means, fight against educating your citizens. Not a snarky question, how much income tax does someone who makes $45/year pay? Is he correct here? I can't speak for TX taxpayers, but during the years that our household income was similar to that amount, we paid almost nothing. We adjusted down the dependents to have as little as humanly possible taken out of DH's check each week, and we still would receive a hefty refund each year. So in our situation, no, he would not be correct. Besides, someone making 45K a year could certainly have children or grandchildren of their own, in which case the minute amount they would be paying could potentially subsidize their own children &/or grandchildren rather than anyone else's. (And even if they don't, I agree wholeheartedly with educating the general population to make life better for everyone.) |
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Post by melanell on Nov 21, 2024 12:42:37 GMT
But will they charge on a sliding scale up from there, or is the family making $110K just out of luck? I consider this to be a case of baby steps. It's far better to at least help those making under 100K than to help no one at all. I truly feel when any company or institution makes a step in a positive direction, it's worth giving positive feedback.  We can hope that when they see success with this, that they will look to do even better. In the meantime, if they do receive positive feedback from the public, then perhaps more schools will take similar steps, and maybe some of those will start off with a sliding scale, possibly encouraging others to do the same. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 21, 2024 14:30:19 GMT
By all means, fight against educating your citizens. Not a snarky question, how much income tax does someone who makes $45/year pay? Is he correct here? The state of Texas does not have income tax, but uses a regressive property and sales tax structure to fund the state instead. So a guy making $45K/year probably pays a larger share of his income in taxes than a guy making a lot more does. That said, I suspect this is being funded through UT's endowment and not through yearly tax revenues. This is the same way large, private universities offer a sliding scale tuition rate based on income. I was surprised and pleased to see that this is being offered at all UT campuses and not just the flagship one in Austin. It can help a lot more families that way. Currently, only the top 5% of each high school graduating class is guaranteed admission in Austin, so that excludes a lot of families. Cynically, though, this is a very "socialist" thing to do by Texas standards, and I have to wonder if they're trying to stem the tide of young people leaving the state due to our political climate. It may also be to compete with Rice (which offers large tuition reductions based on income) for some of the top performers. IDK. |
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Post by melanell on Nov 21, 2024 16:51:46 GMT
By all means, fight against educating your citizens. Not a snarky question, how much income tax does someone who makes $45/year pay? Is he correct here? Cynically, though, this is a very "socialist" thing to do by Texas standards, and I have to wonder if they're trying to stem the tide of young people leaving the state due to our political climate. Oh, I imagine you're absolutely right, but still, even if their reasons aren't exactly benevolent, the result will still be helpful for many. Plus that's exactly the reason this kind of thing is good for taxpayers, too. The people who complain about funding schools never seem to realize that they don't want all of their young people leaving their state. |
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Post by snugglebutter on Nov 21, 2024 17:16:52 GMT
There a merit piece in addition to family income? In my state, kids with high GPAs and placement scores attend state universities for free. The next tier gets a discount. They have to keep their grades up to stay in the program. University of Florida's admissions standards are higher than Bright Futures so almost everyone goes for very low tuition.
No, Texas doesn't have anything like that. If you are valedictorian in Texas you can get a one year tuition waiver at any public university. Some of the state schools (not UT) offer a full ride or a decent scholarship for National Merit students. Texas State has automatic merit scholarships but I don't know the full details. There might be others that do but I'm not familiar with all of the schools. Most of the public university merit scholarships require a separate application and are extremely competitive.
There is the Terry Foundation scholarship program, that is both need and merit based. I'm not familiar with the details on that one either.
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Post by Merge on Nov 21, 2024 18:18:16 GMT
There a merit piece in addition to family income? In my state, kids with high GPAs and placement scores attend state universities for free. The next tier gets a discount. They have to keep their grades up to stay in the program. University of Florida's admissions standards are higher than Bright Futures so almost everyone goes for very low tuition.
No, Texas doesn't have anything like that. If you are valedictorian in Texas you can get a one year tuition waiver at any public university. Some of the state schools (not UT) offer a full ride or a decent scholarship for National Merit students. Texas State has automatic merit scholarships but I don't know the full details. There might be others that do but I'm not familiar with all of the schools. Most of the public university merit scholarships require a separate application and are extremely competitive.
There is the Terry Foundation scholarship program, that is both need and merit based. I'm not familiar with the details on that one either.
- Also, in Texas, you pretty much have to be top 5% at your high school to even be admitted to UT Austin as a freshman. That's the merit piece. The kids who will really benefit from this program are those attending UT Arlington, San Antonio, Permian Basin, etc. |
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Post by snugglebutter on Nov 21, 2024 19:16:11 GMT
Yep, and even with top 5% you aren't guaranteed your major. Some of the majors are so selective that you are looking at Ivy level acceptance rates.
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Post by basketdiva on Nov 21, 2024 21:50:55 GMT
Stanford has been doing this for a couple of years now.
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