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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 11, 2024 16:46:36 GMT
I'm not much of a TV watcher. However, I just happened to have Netflix sub going right now because I was watching some plant based documentaries. So I stumbled upon this one. Have you watched it? Are you going to watch it?
I have for several years now been concerned with my consumption habits. If you read the Craft Thread, you will know that my bipolar sometimes gets my creative itches going which can fuel impulse shopping. But for years now I've limited my impulse shopping to craft supplies only. Even with that caveat, I've been feeling the guilt of too much consumption. I've been able to mentally trick myself on craft supplies that while there is consumption, there is very little waste because I am actually working to create something in another form that in many cases, ends up being a gift that someone else will keep and treasure.
I have also posted many times on this board about my takes on clothing consumption and how I have made significant changes in that regard. I keep to a minimal wardrobe in the first place and I try to limit purchases to ethically/sustainably made products or 2nd hand/recycled materials. (I still have not figured out shoes).
If you have been around the dinner thread, you'll know that I already have a rule in place that I cannot buy anything from Amazon if I am able to get it somewhere else. I understand the value of something like Amazon in the marketplace, but I seriously limit my buying from them.
I admit I watched this documentary this morning because I needed a kick in the ass *not* to buy fabric I definitely do not need. But damn. It made me think of all the ways in which I could be doing even more to limit my consumption. Like something that has been bothering me for the longest time is my Fiestaware collection. I have enough. I totally do. I do not need any more. But I have been trying to justify buying pieces of the newest colors each year for years now. And I just don't know how much longer I can tell myself that I should buy more.
The idea of the waste created just blows my mind. And the images in the documentary will literally gross you out. It just seems like every where I turn lately, a mirror is being held up to my habits and I'm not liking what I am seeing in myself. And I really don't like the idea that I'm being manipulated by corporations to consume either.
Did anyone else watch this and have that reaction?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 11, 2024 17:50:18 GMT
I watched it last night after a pea recommended it on another thread. It’s definitely eye opening, to be sure. I’m sure everyone could do more. It’s somewhat harder when you have growing kids who seemingly outgrow stuff the minute it’s brought home. Personally, I kind of strive for a one in- one out rule but that doesn’t always work. For example, I have a bunch of long sleeve t-shirts that really need to be retired to the lake cabin for yard work weekends. But they are cotton and the new ones in the store that have replaced that style are not and I don’t like them as much.
So I’ve bought a few different shirts here and there hoping they would be a decent replacement for the old ones, but I end up going back to the old ones because even though they’re old I like them better. 🫤 I think I finally found some a few months ago that may finally release me from their grip, but now I still have those other new-ish ones that are perfectly good, I just don’t like them as much so I know I won’t wear them very often. So do I keep those, knowing I won’t wear them much, try to sell them, donate them or what? There really isn’t a perfect answer.
At least the place we donate clothing to actually distributes it locally, for free, to families in need in my community. I think there’s less of a chance of those things going into a landfill as opposed to somewhere like Goodwill or even Salvation Army.
I also hear what you’re saying about Amazon too. I don’t tend to buy a lot from them because I prefer shopping for things in person. But the reality is the things I do buy from there are specialty items I can’t easily get anywhere here even though I live in a big metro area. And in many cases they are coming from a third party seller which is typically a smaller mom and pop place that is selling through Amazon. For example, I asked my DD’s music teacher for a recommendation for a Christmas gift and she suggested an item on Amazon. When I looked it up, it isn’t coming from Amazon at all but from an independent music store that is an Amazon affiliate. I checked online for the item at a local music store and they don’t even stock it.
The other reality is that even if more people shop locally, everything is pretty much coming from China anyway because there really isn’t a lot that’s made here in the USA anymore.
I also think quality, desired items like your Fiestaware are more likely to not end up in a landfill as long as they are in good condition. Even if you decided tomorrow that you were never going to buy another piece and wanted to downsize what you already have, you wouldn’t have trouble offloading it to another collector in a heartbeat. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think things like that are in a very different category than some mass merchandised, fast fashion thing that falls apart after washing it four times.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 11, 2024 18:21:22 GMT
I think I finally found some a few months ago that may finally release me from their grip, but now I still have those other new-ish ones that are perfectly good, I just don’t like them as much so I know I won’t wear them very often. So do I keep those, knowing I won’t wear them much, try to sell them, donate them or what? There really isn’t a perfect answer. There isn't a perfect answer. I have a good thrift store that benefits veterans where I tend to donate and do the majority of my 2nd hand shopping. But I've been thinking more and more about buy, sell, trade groups online. I am starting to think I will look for good local groups online to see if they are a better alternative. This is where in some ways I feel like there's such a loss with in person shopping. So much of clothing purchased is online nowadays and I think people were much more likely to make more suitable choices when they shopped in person. Some companies throw away their returns! Yikes! I don’t tend to buy a lot from them because I prefer shopping for things in person. But the reality is the things I do buy from there are specialty items I can’t easily get anywhere here even though I live in a big metro area. This is me too. The other reality is that even if more people shop locally, everything is pretty much coming from China anyway because there really isn’t a lot that’s made here in the USA anymore. I think that's only going to be able to be addressed by more knowledgeable and discerning consumption habits. The data don't suggest that we are trending this way.  I also think quality, desired items like your Fiestaware are more likely to not end up in a landfill as long as they are in good condition. Even if you decided tomorrow that you were never going to buy another piece and wanted to downsize what you already have, you wouldn’t have trouble offloading it to another collector in a heartbeat. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think things like that are in a very different category than some mass merchandised, fast fashion thing that falls apart after washing it four times. I know what you're saying. They are collectible. But I think of my motivation with them. Is it simply to "have" them? It really is. And I'm not sure at what point you say, do I have enough to be satisfied. Thank you for your feedback. This is not a black and white issue.
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Post by papersilly on Dec 11, 2024 18:27:45 GMT
I also think quality, desired items like your Fiestaware are more likely to not end up in a landfill as long as they are in good condition. Even if you decided tomorrow that you were never going to buy another piece and wanted to downsize what you already have, you wouldn’t have trouble offloading it to another collector in a heartbeat. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think things like that are in a very different category than some mass merchandised, fast fashion thing that falls apart after washing it four times. this. once i started using Fiestaware 30 years ago, i never bought another brand of dishes. i added more fiesta but never got rid of any. only one bowl has broken in the last 30 years. it's definitely my dinnerware for life. someday when i'm gone, someone can sell off the 20+ color dinner sets and serve ware in bulk.
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Post by iowgirl on Dec 11, 2024 20:29:03 GMT
I am trying to stop buying so many things. It is so easy to pop online, order it, and boom! But I find that have just have TOO MUCH STUFF now. When I go to friends houses that have less stuff and cabinets that have open space, it feels so peaceful. I have cleaned out a couple kitchen cabinets to give myself some space - ahh. I just need to keep after it this winter and get things pared down. I also think quality, desired items like your Fiestaware are more likely to not end up in a landfill as long as they are in good condition. Yes! I love my Fiesta and have for 30 years. I do have a lot! But I use it all. I need to watch this documentary. I think it will help keep me in check. I tend to get a little to quick on the order button, especially this time of year!
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Post by kelly8875 on Dec 11, 2024 20:55:12 GMT
I understand the value of something like Amazon in the marketplace, but I seriously limit my buying from them. I haven't watched this, but I have been trying to be more aware of what shopping I'm doing. For me, Amazon is a great help to limit myself. I look for what I want, and I buy just that. I'm not in the stores, adding more and more to the cart because "it's cute". And if I know it's something I can get from a locally owned small business I try to get it there first, it's just not usually available.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 11, 2024 22:54:07 GMT
I am trying to stop buying so many things. It is so easy to pop online, order it, and boom! But I find that have just have TOO MUCH STUFF now. When I go to friends houses that have less stuff and cabinets that have open space, it feels so peaceful. I have cleaned out a couple kitchen cabinets to give myself some space - ahh. I just need to keep after it this winter and get things pared down. I also think quality, desired items like your Fiestaware are more likely to not end up in a landfill as long as they are in good condition. Yes! I love my Fiesta and have for 30 years. I do have a lot! But I use it all. I need to watch this documentary. I think it will help keep me in check. I tend to get a little to quick on the order button, especially this time of year! The images of the waste just blows my damn mind.
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Dec 11, 2024 22:55:19 GMT
If you haven't already read it, I would recommend Scarcity Brain by Michael Easter. I loved it. He's a good writer and has interesting theories on why people are overconsuming.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 11, 2024 22:59:43 GMT
I understand the value of something like Amazon in the marketplace, but I seriously limit my buying from them. I haven't watched this, but I have been trying to be more aware of what shopping I'm doing. For me, Amazon is a great help to limit myself. I look for what I want, and I buy just that. I'm not in the stores, adding more and more to the cart because "it's cute". And if I know it's something I can get from a locally owned small business I try to get it there first, it's just not usually available. That's interesting. Because the data show that people actually consume more online shopping than in person shopping. And it's not just that it is way more convenient to pop online and buy whatever than it is to get in your car and go out, but the suggestive marketing when you do put something in your cart of another product you might like, the push to repeat a purchase, algorithms that target your desires showing up in social media and even allowing them to specifically email you items they think you might like, and many more tricks have increased spending more and more and more each year. As a whole, western societies buy way more since online shopping became a thing and psychological marketing and intelligence practices have caused sales records to continue to be broken the more they get perfected.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 11, 2024 23:00:13 GMT
If you haven't already read it, I would recommend The Scarcity Brain by Michael Easter. I loved it. He's a good writer and has interesting theories on why people are overconsuming. Thank you! I'll check it out. I love a good book recommendation.
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Post by leeny on Dec 11, 2024 23:08:44 GMT
Though I thought the format was weird I loved this documentary. I know my adult kids don't want much of our stuff, so I am trying my hardest not to consume so much.
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Post by ecvnj58 on Dec 11, 2024 23:11:54 GMT
I have to watch this. I am a lot like you in my clothing consumption. It sounds right up my alley. Maybe this will be what I watch while working on Friday and I will come back.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 11, 2024 23:19:28 GMT
Though I thought the format was weird I loved this documentary. I know my adult kids don't want much of our stuff, so I am trying my hardest not to consume so much. You know what sucks is that they are working so hard against us. I actually talked with someone about clothing consumption just over a year ago and that person argued the problem was so big it was systemic. That it was a battle that would have to be fought at the policy level. And while I know that these industries are working against us, I just have absolutely no faith at all in any kind of policy solution.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Dec 11, 2024 23:27:44 GMT
Maybe I’ll watch it tonight while wrapping presents lol. Or maybe not. I’ll probably watch it at some point, though.
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Post by kelly8875 on Dec 11, 2024 23:40:03 GMT
I haven't watched this, but I have been trying to be more aware of what shopping I'm doing. For me, Amazon is a great help to limit myself. I look for what I want, and I buy just that. I'm not in the stores, adding more and more to the cart because "it's cute". And if I know it's something I can get from a locally owned small business I try to get it there first, it's just not usually available. That's interesting. Because the data show that people actually consume more online shopping than in person shopping. And it's not just that it is way more convenient to pop online and buy whatever than it is to get in your car and go out, but the suggestive marketing when you do put something in your cart of another product you might like, the push to repeat a purchase, algorithms that target your desires showing up in social media and even allowing them to specifically email you items they think you might like, and many more tricks have increased spending more and more and more each year. As a whole, western societies buy way more since online shopping became a thing and psychological marketing and intelligence practices have caused sales records to continue to be broken the more they get perfected. I don’t doubt any of this for others as a whole. But for me, I spend less if it’s online than in person. Whether it’s amazon or the grocery store. I also have as much privacy and lockdown as I can in my settings, so I don’t get a lot of the crossovers between online and social media ads. DH on the other hand does not have the same luck online shopping 🤣
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Post by Zee on Dec 12, 2024 1:17:23 GMT
The way to get me to buy more is to make it be one of a series. Coordinated. Limited Edition. CANNOT RESIST. I NEED THE ENTIRE SERIES.
So it's either all or none.
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Post by lucyg on Dec 12, 2024 2:19:42 GMT
I don’t think your Fiestaware is a problem. First, we are allowed to have something we love, and collect it just because we love it. Second, it is useful. You USE it. Third, when you are over it or downsizing, someone else will want it. It won’t be going to the landfill. (ETA and fourth, you aren’t OVER buying it. You’re buying what? a place setting or two once a year?)
I don’t have a clothing problem. Not that interested in clothes and pretty much just wear basics. When I find something I like, I buy several and wear them until they die (by my standards), then find something else I like. Almost everything gets handed down to charities that love getting them. For the worst-looking stuff, my sister has a place to take textiles that can’t be reused and they get shredded and recycled.
I have a minor problem with kitchenwares, but like your Fiestaware, it is used and then passed along to someone else who will love it, too.
My real problem is craft supplies. Serious problem. It’s why my house is overstuffed and my family is ready to kill me. I have to have it all. I have to have backups in case something gets discontinued or there are shortages. (Thanks, COVID.) I have to have every color and size, and every new design.
At a time in my life when I should be downsizing, I’m still upsizing. Not good. But at least it will all go to friends/family who want it, or be sold or given away to someone who will use it. Not much to landfill.
But still … please send help.
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Post by chaosisapony on Dec 12, 2024 2:27:23 GMT
I watched it and while it was interesting I didn't think it presented much new information. I had hoped it would go a little deeper on some subjects and I really didn't like the AI voiceover. A few years ago I did a project on fast fashion for a class I was taking and buying fewer pieces of clothing has stuck with me. I still have more than I need but instead of buying a bunch of new items each season I have bought a couple new summer tops and a couple new winter tops and that is it. The rest I just keep re-wearing. It's better for my wallet and better for the planet.
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Post by lisae on Dec 12, 2024 3:08:00 GMT
Thanks for recommending the documentary. I watched it this evening. I didn't know where electronics ended up. That was informative and scary. We are poisoning our planet and its occupants. It wasn't surprising though to learn that those in poorer economies will suffer the most. Our entire economy is built on consumer spending so this will not be an easy problem to solve.
I'd read a couple of books on fashion consumption earlier in the year and had already been rethinking my wardrobe. I've been focusing a lot on wearing what I have and adding very little. Once you start to learn a bit about this, it starts to affect your thinking on all kinds of things. I wasn't far into the fashion books when I thought all those environmental problems of making and disposing of clothes would apply to quilt fabrics too. I'd already been working on my stash. Today I completed my 11th donation quilt of the year, all were made almost entirely out of my stash, which is now getting a lot lower. One of the key fabrics in this NICU quilt was bought from a lady who was downsizing and selling her stash. At our next guild meeting we have someone else selling their stuff. I hope to find some things there to satisfy the desire for new fabric without buying NEW fabric. I want to support my local quilt shops though because I know the importance of small businesses. It's a balance.
I'm trying to shift my enjoyment of styling my clothes to mixing and matching more of what I have. I especially like finding a way to wear something that has been in my closet a long time. I've always liked consignment shopping. Unfortunately the best place to sell items has changed owners and they no longer take the brands I have the most of in my wardrobe. Consignors have made it so much trouble for so little money that I'd just rather donate. I have seen Goodwill put some of my items out to sell right after I donate. Donating things in good condition in the right season helps. I could so more to investigate the various charities in the area to find out where my items are likely to be used.
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Post by lisae on Dec 12, 2024 3:11:41 GMT
Also, I repurposed some furniture this year. I had a dresser and chest of drawers repainted. I repainted an old chair and recovered the seat. A local guy turned a 120 year old treadle sewing machine into a nightstand for me. He didn't charge me that much as he kept the parts I didn't want in my table to put in another table he could sell. It felt good to reuse these items and I have some unique things that way. I've still bought some new stuff but was haven't hauled off any large items. We even broke down a table we had made ourselves back to the lumber we can use for other projects.
Do not get me started on dishes. I have way too many. About half are antiques - depression glass and a set of china from a family friend. I buy vintage table clothes. Those are getting harder to find.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 12, 2024 12:45:10 GMT
I don’t think your Fiestaware is a problem. First, we are allowed to have something we love, and collect it just because we love it. Second, it is useful. You USE it. Third, when you are over it or downsizing, someone else will want it. It won’t be going to the landfill. (ETA and fourth, you aren’t OVER buying it. You’re buying what? a place setting or two once a year?) All of this is true. I do use it. I do enjoy it. And it is collectible and functional so someone else can use it. It's also USA made which soothes my conscience a bit more. I just have a loooot. But still … please send help. Haha...this is exactly how I feel.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 12, 2024 12:55:30 GMT
Also, I repurposed some furniture this year. I had a dresser and chest of drawers repainted. I repainted an old chair and recovered the seat. A local guy turned a 120 year old treadle sewing machine into a nightstand for me. He didn't charge me that much as he kept the parts I didn't want in my table to put in another table he could sell. It felt good to reuse these items and I have some unique things that way. I've still bought some new stuff but was haven't hauled off any large items. We even broke down a table we had made ourselves back to the lumber we can use for other projects. I love this. My dining table is very good quality. Solid wood. Very dark stain and so it has steam marks all over it. I've been looking up ways to try to remove them without having to sand and refinish the entire table. With that said, it is a cosmetic thing, so the table is going nowhere. I have recovered the chairs several times. But furniture is something we rarely talk about too. And appliances. I just had a terrible mental struggle with my refrigerator. It was literally on its last leg. It has been for a while. But it even had very uneven temperatures, we replaced the ice maker twice, it had some broken/missing shelves. And we thought with the tariffs coming that now was the time to buy a new one. But the old one went where? I've seen people rip out perfectly good countertops for aesthetics. I think people aren't even considering the waste.
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Post by Tearisci on Dec 12, 2024 14:47:51 GMT
Unlike most people in my family, I am not a 'stuff' person. The only thing I really buy for myself is clothes that I wear for a many years. I think I have maybe 3 pairs of shoes and I've had my purse for years as well.
I do shop mostly on Amazon for household things or I do a grocery pickup at my store as I have a bad back and shopping really aggravates it. I tend to be a list follower so I don't buy what's not on my list. My sister and mom are big shoppers. They just like to go to stores and see what tickles their fancy. Drives me crazy!
I would like to shop more locally, but prices are generally more expensive and selection is more limited. There is a cute hardware store that has a really nice gift shop around the corner from me so I try to give them my business even though they are more expensive.
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Post by AngieJoy on Dec 12, 2024 15:35:27 GMT
jeremysgirl google mayonaise to remove white marks. It’s worked for me every single time!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Dec 12, 2024 15:39:15 GMT
jeremysgirl google mayonaise to remove white marks. It’s worked for me every single time! Thank you! 
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Post by lisae on Dec 12, 2024 16:40:54 GMT
I love this. My dining table is very good quality. Solid wood. Very dark stain and so it has steam marks all over it. I've been looking up ways to try to remove them without having to sand and refinish the entire table. With that said, it is a cosmetic thing, so the table is going nowhere. I have recovered the chairs several times. But furniture is something we rarely talk about too. And appliances. I just had a terrible mental struggle with my refrigerator. It was literally on its last leg. It has been for a while. But it even had very uneven temperatures, we replaced the ice maker twice, it had some broken/missing shelves. And we thought with the tariffs coming that now was the time to buy a new one. But the old one went where? I've seen people rip out perfectly good countertops for aesthetics. I think people aren't even considering the waste. I'm definitely thinking about the waste more. Once you know, you can't unknow. When we renovated, they hauled off 2 trailer loads of stuff. The windows were rotten and some of the wood under them, so that had to be replaced. They saved insulation to reuse but then threw some of that out so I don't know how much of it was reused. They reused every scrap of siding possible for the exterior. The old tile had to go because I was doing an addition and there was no way of matching it. There were many things though that we didn't replace such as the countertop and the cabinet pulls. I'm proud of all the ways I've reused furniture this year. If you ever have your dining table redone, you might consider having a glass cut for the top. I took the glass that had been on the old worktable from my scrapbooking area and had it cut down to the size and shape of the dresser top. I knew the paint wouldn't be as durable as the original stain. I have my silhouette on there and can use the top as I want without having to worry about scratching it. It sounds like it is time for a new refrigerator. You've given your old one a long life. What bugs me is when I hear people replacing both their washer and dryer to keep a pair. A dryer is a very simple device and should outlive the washer by a long time.
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Post by austnscrapaddict on Dec 12, 2024 16:50:14 GMT
I haven't watched it, but thanks again for such an awesome recommendation jeremysgirl ! Prior to watching this, I'll say that I'm in same camp as you and lucyg when it comes to overbuying craft supplies, I've noticed lately that I feel like I'm drowning in what I have, granted I have friends with much more and others with less, crafting is my main enjoyment. I have learned that no matter how much I like a new fabric line or stamp set, there will be something I like equally as much with the next release. I need to figure out where to offload some of what I have to help me get my head above the waterline. I get very frustrated with the spend spend spend culture we live in, I find a crafter on IG that I like and suddenly they want to sell me something, I just want to look at pretty things. I feel like we are hypnotized by Social media and marketing campaigns. I'll report back after I have an opportunity to watch this, Thanks for sharing!!!
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Post by PLurker on Dec 12, 2024 17:18:29 GMT
jeremysgirl I went on Netflix to check out this documentary. Netflix showed me new episodes of Queer Eye available. A few episodes of that later... I will have to check it out another day hopefully another "squirrel!!" doesn't happen. Lol
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Post by Zee on Dec 12, 2024 17:50:07 GMT
I love this. My dining table is very good quality. Solid wood. Very dark stain and so it has steam marks all over it. I've been looking up ways to try to remove them without having to sand and refinish the entire table. With that said, it is a cosmetic thing, so the table is going nowhere. I have recovered the chairs several times. But furniture is something we rarely talk about too. And appliances. I just had a terrible mental struggle with my refrigerator. It was literally on its last leg. It has been for a while. But it even had very uneven temperatures, we replaced the ice maker twice, it had some broken/missing shelves. And we thought with the tariffs coming that now was the time to buy a new one. But the old one went where? I've seen people rip out perfectly good countertops for aesthetics. I think people aren't even considering the waste. I'm definitely thinking about the waste more. Once you know, you can't unknow. When we renovated, they hauled off 2 trailer loads of stuff. The windows were rotten and some of the wood under them, so that had to be replaced. They saved insulation to reuse but then threw some of that out so I don't know how much of it was reused. They reused every scrap of siding possible for the exterior. The old tile had to go because I was doing an addition and there was no way of matching it. There were many things though that we didn't replace such as the countertop and the cabinet pulls. I'm proud of all the ways I've reused furniture this year. If you ever have your dining table redone, you might consider having a glass cut for the top. I took the glass that had been on the old worktable from my scrapbooking area and had it cut down to the size and shape of the dresser top. I knew the paint wouldn't be as durable as the original stain. I have my silhouette on there and can use the top as I want without having to worry about scratching it. It sounds like it is time for a new refrigerator. You've given your old one a long life. What bugs me is when I hear people replacing both their washer and dryer to keep a pair. A dryer is a very simple device and should outlive the washer by a long time. I would absolutely buy a new dryer in order for it to match the washer, guilty as charged! But I would give away the working appliance to someone.
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Post by valincal on Dec 12, 2024 17:56:28 GMT
I’m definitely susceptible to influence from the ads I see for clothing in facebook and instagram. I have a ton of clothing that is never or rarely worn and it’s a habit I need to get a handle on!! When I see the images of fast fashion in landfills in foreign countries it makes me sick. 😢
We just spent the last month or so clearing out my mom’s home of fifty years and moving her into a retirement residence and that was an eye opener. We must have donated 5 or 6 large bags of clothing in addition to tons of housewares (small furniture and appliances, decor, extra cooking dishes, tablecloths, etc. etc.) and my mom wasn’t a big shopper! I don’t want to leave that for my own kids to deal with in the future.
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