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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jan 11, 2025 21:34:23 GMT
making videos?
One of them showed up on my fb using nothing but these and I was curious if anyone pointed that out. The top reply did. But all the responses to that (that were available that is) was disagreements, calling them a Karen and killjoy.
Now I know many videos out there have such replies to things like art projects if they are not perfect. But would this apply as the same thing to food making?
I did reply to the video myself and I’ll share it in the comments.
ETA (2 days later) - I plan to come back on this thread after the full moon
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Post by pilcas on Jan 11, 2025 21:40:46 GMT
As long as you say it politely I think it’s ok. When people put stuff out in social media they can’t just expect accolades.
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 11, 2025 22:09:15 GMT
Honestly I would scroll on by unless the person is billing it as a health food dish. I am not nuts about some of the food content I get on my social media feed but it would never occur to me to say anything unless the person billed it as something other than what it was. I don’t generally eat much processed food, but I wouldn’t feel motivated to say something if a creator was making a Twinkie pie.
Which btw now kind of sounds good.
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Post by Merge on Jan 11, 2025 22:11:18 GMT
A lot of times when people post something like that it's just engagement bait. They're counting on the nasty comments and then the people chiming in calling the commenters "Karen" or whatever. It's all part of the monetization game.
Best to just scroll on by.
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Post by gar on Jan 11, 2025 22:16:32 GMT
If you start calling out everyone who does stuff like that on SM you’re going to be very, very busy.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jan 11, 2025 22:26:15 GMT
A lot of times when people post something like that it's just engagement bait. They're counting on the nasty comments and then the people chiming in calling the commenters "Karen" or whatever. It's all part of the monetization game. Best to just scroll on by. I usually do. And what a desperate intent. Engagement bait screams a lack of self worth to me. It’s about quality not quantity. All I said was: Not judging, just disappointed.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jan 11, 2025 22:35:56 GMT
If you start calling out everyone who does stuff like that on SM you’re going to be very, very busy. A long time ago I used to call people out in person like co workers when I first found out the “truth” about foods. Working at a grocery store. Bagging groceries, so many opportunities to say something. But unless they asked for my opinion, I would just observe. I guess that was my training time ☺️
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Post by Merge on Jan 11, 2025 22:38:59 GMT
A lot of times when people post something like that it's just engagement bait. They're counting on the nasty comments and then the people chiming in calling the commenters "Karen" or whatever. It's all part of the monetization game. Best to just scroll on by. I usually do. And what a desperate intent. Engagement bait screams a lack of self worth to me. It’s about quality not quantity. All I said was: Not judging, just disappointed. Yeah, IMO people who are obviously just trying to make money by making people mad aren't worth your time.
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Post by imkat on Jan 11, 2025 23:05:20 GMT
If you truly wanted to know, you could say something like: any ideas or substitutions to make this healthier? I'm trying to avoid salt, eat more protein, etc.
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Post by AllieC on Jan 11, 2025 23:39:57 GMT
I think what people eat is none of anyone’s business. Even if they are putting a recipe online that isn’t what I would eat and I’ve seen some horrendous things I would never cook. I just scroll on by. And I would NEVER comment on what anyone is buying/eating.
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Post by voltagain on Jan 12, 2025 5:16:20 GMT
making videos? One of them showed up on my fb using nothing but these and I was curious if anyone pointed that out. The top reply did. But all the responses to that (that were available that is) was disagreements, calling them a Karen and killjoy. Now I know many videos out there have such replies to things like art projects if they are not perfect. But would this apply as the same thing to food making? I did reply to the video myself and I’ll share it in the comments. I think our entire society needs to get over the habit of calling out everything that does not meet their idea of perfect. 50 years ago the mantra was "if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all"
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Post by voltagain on Jan 12, 2025 5:20:25 GMT
A lot of times when people post something like that it's just engagement bait. They're counting on the nasty comments and then the people chiming in calling the commenters "Karen" or whatever. It's all part of the monetization game. Best to just scroll on by. I usually do. And what a desperate intent. Engagement bait screams a lack of self worth to me. It’s about quality not quantity. All I said was: Not judging, just disappointed. To be disappointed you had to make a judgement about it. Don't be duplicitous even to yourself. Not everyone wants/needs quality over quantity. For families with extremely tight budgets it well might be quantity over quality to keep their children's bellies satisfied.
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Post by Merge on Jan 12, 2025 14:40:19 GMT
I usually do. And what a desperate intent. Engagement bait screams a lack of self worth to me. It’s about quality not quantity. All I said was: Not judging, just disappointed. To be disappointed you had to make a judgement about it. Don't be duplicitous even to yourself. Not everyone wants/needs quality over quantity. For families with extremely tight budgets it well might be quantity over quality to keep their children's bellies satisfied. With all due respect, you can ask people to limit what they say, but it goes a bit too far to ask them to limit what they think. Here the judgement was for people making rage bait videos to monetize their account. Not necessarily for people struggling to feed a family.
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Post by voltagain on Jan 12, 2025 15:35:30 GMT
To be disappointed you had to make a judgement about it. Don't be duplicitous even to yourself. Not everyone wants/needs quality over quantity. For families with extremely tight budgets it well might be quantity over quality to keep their children's bellies satisfied. With all due respect, you can ask people to limit what they say, but it goes a bit too far to ask them to limit what they think. Here the judgement was for people making rage bait videos to monetize their account. Not necessarily for people struggling to feed a family. Not asking anyone to limit what they think. Just to own up to it when being judgmental. And I disagree that the content creator was going for rage bait. Many families are struggling to feed their kids enough calories. The ability to choose quality ingredients and still be able to afford enough to satisfy the caloric needs of the family is putting people in a position of privilege that not every one has.
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Post by artbabe on Jan 12, 2025 15:52:00 GMT
Honestly, I don't think it is wrong to make something with ultra processed food once in awhile and I think most people who post recipes know that it is processed. Sometimes I just like that kind of food.
I like healthy foods, but sometimes a casserole made with Campbell's dreaded "cream of whatever" soup just hits different. If someone thinks less of me because of it, I kind of feel like it is a them problem. A lot of food like that are comfort foods from my childhood when there wasn't such a variety of non-processed foods available and my family wasn't rolling in money.
Eating food that is not processed is a luxury for a lot of people. Fresh food is an expensive luxury. I'm not judging people for that.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 12, 2025 16:18:42 GMT
I like healthy foods, but sometimes a casserole made with Campbell's dreaded "cream of whatever" soup just hits different. This. Also, why do you care what a stranger is eating?
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Post by snugglebutter on Jan 12, 2025 16:28:14 GMT
If it's not ultra processed food, it's seed oils or gluten or sugar or dairy or sweeteners or red meat or or or..... It's always something.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jan 12, 2025 16:41:18 GMT
Yes... there is nothing I can't stand more than seeing a recipe that someone posted then seeing all the comments about the ingredients used. Either use it as the poster intended or scroll by. I can be called the queen of processed food (not all the time but I will accept it) and I really don't give a crap what others think. I'm going to eat/cook what I want and not what others think I should.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jan 12, 2025 19:38:49 GMT
If you truly wanted to know, you could say something like: any ideas or substitutions to make this healthier? I'm trying to avoid salt, eat more protein, etc. Oh I like that one
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Post by littlemama on Jan 12, 2025 19:42:36 GMT
It isnt anyone's business what someone includes in their own recipe. If they dont like it, they should not make it
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Post by disneypal on Jan 12, 2025 19:44:29 GMT
As long as you say it politely I think it’s ok. When people put stuff out in social media they can’t just expect accolades. I agree - as long as it is said in a respectful way, I think its fine to mention
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jan 12, 2025 19:45:31 GMT
making videos? One of them showed up on my fb using nothing but these and I was curious if anyone pointed that out. The top reply did. But all the responses to that (that were available that is) was disagreements, calling them a Karen and killjoy. Now I know many videos out there have such replies to things like art projects if they are not perfect. But would this apply as the same thing to food making? I did reply to the video myself and I’ll share it in the comments. I think our entire society needs to get over the habit of calling out everything that does not meet their idea of perfect. 50 years ago the mantra was "if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all" That’s what I was wondering if calling someone out not on their cooking (there was none on this video) but on the types of food being used. Just like the types of paint someone uses if it’s toxic or something. But I like the approach shared on here about asking for alternatives. I would love to try this recipe. But there needs to be substitutions for everything for me to be able to eat it.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jan 12, 2025 19:53:26 GMT
I usually do. And what a desperate intent. Engagement bait screams a lack of self worth to me. It’s about quality not quantity. All I said was: Not judging, just disappointed. To be disappointed you had to make a judgement about it. Don't be duplicitous even to yourself. Not everyone wants/needs quality over quantity. For families with extremely tight budgets it well might be quantity over quality to keep their children's bellies satisfied. I said that I was disappointed because I couldn’t have any of the ingredients used to make the recipe. And I miss the freedom of eating whatever I want.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jan 12, 2025 20:01:20 GMT
With all due respect, you can ask people to limit what they say, but it goes a bit too far to ask them to limit what they think. Here the judgement was for people making rage bait videos to monetize their account. Not necessarily for people struggling to feed a family. Not asking anyone to limit what they think. Just to own up to it when being judgmental. And I disagree that the content creator was going for rage bait. Many families are struggling to feed their kids enough calories. The ability to choose quality ingredients and still be able to afford enough to satisfy the caloric needs of the family is putting people in a position of privilege that not every one has. I didn’t know about rage bait until yesterday because I have mostly just kept scrolling from all those popular videos and reels. I thought they just do it for likes, not dislikes too. But when I saw a video that kept putting sugar on top of sugar on top of sugar on top of sugar I was curious about the responses.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jan 12, 2025 20:35:06 GMT
Honestly, I don't think it is wrong to make something with ultra processed food once in awhile and I think most people who post recipes know that it is processed. Sometimes I just like that kind of food. I like healthy foods, but sometimes a casserole made with Campbell's dreaded "cream of whatever" soup just hits different. If someone thinks less of me because of it, I kind of feel like it is a them problem. A lot of food like that are comfort foods from my childhood when there wasn't such a variety of non-processed foods available and my family wasn't rolling in money. Eating food that is not processed is a luxury for a lot of people. Fresh food is an expensive luxury. I'm not judging people for that. I don’t think less of anybody by their food choices. Trying to make something viral about it though, is what I’m figuring out. I grew up with all that comfort food too. And I miss it. Not for the taste or anything but for the freedom. It’s practically all that’s in my family’s kitchen. I don’t judge my family for it. I do wish it wasn’t an option. We could have more meals together. When I was in highschool my grandmother who raised me got sick so I was on my own for dinners and I got Marie Calendars tv dinners a lot. For school lunch I would get a pizza from the school and some ruffles sour cream cheddar chips and a hostess cupcake. And for some reason I just started get emotional when tapping into that memory. It’s probably an inner child thing. It probably has something to do with the freedom. That she can’t eat what she wants anymore. But when I was in highschool I didn’t feel the freedom of eating whatever I wanted because I didn’t have the relativity to experience what’s it’s like not being able to. I did see a can of that Campbell’s cream a few weeks ago on the kitchen counter. 3 of them actually. They were making dinner for all of us and so I kept watch if any of those cans were being used in the dinner to decide if I was going to eat with them or be on my own. It was easier than trying to guess after a meal is made if there is anything I can’t have in the pan. A manager was nice enough to let me know when we had tamales at our Christmas party that the beef one had cheese in it but the chicken one didn’t. It felt great to feel included. And I found out that day that one of my coworkers is on the same diet as me. I don’t expect it to always be like that but it gets exhausting doing it on my own when it comes to making decisions about food. And I think my inner child doesn’t understand why I’m so strict about it.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Jan 12, 2025 20:58:25 GMT
If it's not ultra processed food, it's seed oils or gluten or sugar or dairy or sweeteners or red meat or or or..... It's always something. Yup, don’t get me started. I used to just avoid ultra processed foods. It’s been so long that I forgot what they taste like. I think it’s been like 10 to 15 years. I remember eating some candy in 2013 and I had a reaction and never went back. Then a few years later I started having a reaction to dairy and had to cut that out too. So about a year ago I’m buying this plant butter at work and the checker looks at the ingredients and mentions an oil in it. First time I have heard about it possibly being something else to cut out. No dairy butter or plant butter? I seem to do fine with ghee. A friend of mine who is on the carnivore diet shares videos about seed oils and everything else that is not meat, cheese or eggs, even power greens of why it’s not the healthiest choice because certain greens have a defense to protect themselves with. I keep forgetting what it’s called. But anyway, yes it’s become like a rabbit hole. Now it seems just avoiding ultra processed was easy. I either gotta draw the line somewhere or move to the UK
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Post by Zee on Jan 12, 2025 23:03:49 GMT
If it's not ultra processed food, it's seed oils or gluten or sugar or dairy or sweeteners or red meat or or or..... It's always something. Yup, don’t get me started. I used to just avoid ultra processed foods. It’s been so long that I forgot what they taste like. I think it’s been like 10 to 15 years. I remember eating some candy in 2013 and I had a reaction and never went back. Then a few years later I started having a reaction to dairy and had to cut that out too. So about a year ago I’m buying this plant butter at work and the checker looks at the ingredients and mentions an oil in it. First time I have heard about it possibly being something else to cut out. No dairy butter or plant butter? I seem to do fine with ghee. A friend of mine who is on the carnivore diet shares videos about seed oils and everything else that is not meat, cheese or eggs, even power greens of why it’s not the healthiest choice because certain greens have a defense to protect themselves with. I keep forgetting what it’s called. But anyway, yes it’s become like a rabbit hole. Now it seems just avoiding ultra processed was easy. I either gotta draw the line somewhere or move to the UK Are you under the impression that the UK has no ultra processed foods?
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Post by artbabe on Jan 13, 2025 13:54:33 GMT
Are you under the impression that the UK has no ultra processed foods? People get confused by that because of the difference in listing the ingredients. Our government is much more strict about listing every tiny ingredient than the UK is. So you can look at two identical products and it will look like the US has more additives in it, but the products are identical, it is just that the UK has different labeling rules. I watch a lot of social media posts on this and there is so much erroneous information being spread on there. If it's not ultra processed food, it's seed oils or gluten or sugar or dairy or sweeteners or red meat or or or..... It's always something. Seed oils are not bad in themselves. Sugar is not bad in itself. Dairy is not bad in itself. Red meat is not bad in itself. I'm so tired of vilifying food. It is all about moderation. I don't care what anyone else eats. I do get frustrated with making food a way to judge people. Again, a lot of what people choose to eat is what is available and what they can afford. I can go to the grocery store (because I have transportation and don't live in a food desert) and buy anything I want (because I have a decent paying job) but unfortunately, so much of our population can't. I will not judge someone for what they eat. I'm not going to judge someone for eating cookies, or a Twinkie, for that matter. I'm not going to judge someone for cooking with canola oil. I'm watching too much social media. The food fear gurus are making me crazy.
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Post by smartypants71 on Jan 13, 2025 14:35:14 GMT
I make it a point of never commenting on what people eat because I HATE when people do it to me. I have Type 1 diabetes, and for some reason that makes people feel very comfortable asking me if I should be eating a certain something. Like, don't come at me for drinking a Diet Coke. I literally have 1 a day and it brings me joy. I don't want to hear any lecture about the dangers of artificial sweeteners. I DON'T CARE!!!!!!!
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