Just T
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Post by Just T on Jan 27, 2025 4:35:05 GMT
I have written here before about my darling DIL, who is from Mexico. She and my son got married in early May, and she is trying to do all the right things to be able to live and work here legally. I really had no idea what all goes into it, but it is first of all, expensive. They are working with an immigration attorney, but they are trying to save the money they need to file everything and pay the attorney. I've been nervous about it all since before Trump was elected, but I am even more nervous now that I see what is going on. No, I don't think anyone is going to come knocking on their door, but I do worry about her being out and about. Since she can't work yet, she is home by herself while my son works, and she does go out to a nearby park to walk with her dog. Last week, she had a miscarriage. Of all days, on inauguration day. She was afraid to even go to an urgent care because right now, she is just here on a visa. It's good until July, so she is not here illegally, but she is scared, and I don't blame her. I also worry that going through the legal channels is going to be so much more difficult for her now. I am hoping that within a month or so, I can loan them the remaining money they need, but I'm still worried. Worried that she is going to encounter roadblocks and have to move back to her home before it all goes through. My son will be devastated if that happens. Do you think Trump's policies are going to make it more difficult for her to go through the legal channels to be able to legally live and work here? Also, next week, she is going home to visit her family. I'm a nervous wreck about her getting back here. I hate this. I have knots in my stomach just thinking about it. **UPDATE 1/28** Thank you all so much! I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to this thread. It's been a crazy week. And yeah, it's only Tuesday. LOL Thankfully, my daughter in law decided just a bit ago that she is not going home. We talked on the phone this afternoon, and she told me she is used to traveling, being questioned, etc, and she said I need to trust her that she will be okay. She's not doing anything wrong, she's here legally, etc. She thought she would be okay because she was going to fly into and out of Mexico, when she typically flies into and out of San Diego. She thought it would go better since she wouldn't be driving across the border. I hung up feeling a bit less nervous. But then a few hours later, my son called me and said she's not going after all. I guess after she talked to me, she called her mom, and her mom told her she has a bad feeling and wants her to stay here. My dil is upset, she is very close to her mom, but I think she now realizes what could happen. I feel bad for her, but at the same time, I am so relieved. This girl is just the sweetest, and she has been so wonderful to and for my son. I can't even imagine if she went and wasn't allowed back in. He told me tonight that if that had happened, he would have moved back there. (He lived there with her for over a year before they moved back here and got married). I am so relieved. I haven't been sleeping well because of worrying about this. So many people in my family are huge Trump supporters, and they all love my dil. But dang. I was to the point that I was ready to cut them all out of my life if something happened to her while she was traveling. I do feel bad for her because she really wants to see her mom right now. They are going to try to get a refund on her plane ticket and give the money to her mom to come here. Also, I bit the bullet late Sunday night and asked STBX if he would help pay the fees so they can get everything rolling for her application, and he said he would. He actually has given them money to help them out with other things before, and I did acknowledge that to him. They didn't want to ask him for more, and I told him that and asked him to please not tell them that I asked. I told him if he could give them half of what they need, I will give the other half. So that is what we will do. I will be so relieved when everything is filed and she has papers saying so. Thank you all again.
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mamallama
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Post by mamallama on Jan 27, 2025 4:56:49 GMT
I think she will be fine out and about and going to visit family because she has a visa. But I’m so sorry she’s so afraid and that you are all in this situation. Unfortunately I have no idea what Trump has up his sleeve. But I think she’s okay for now. Hugs to all of you.
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Post by mamallama on Jan 27, 2025 5:27:14 GMT
Oh gosh I just read the post on here on ICE. Sounds like Trump doesn’t care if they are legally here. I’m so sorry.
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valincal
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Post by valincal on Jan 27, 2025 6:02:40 GMT
I am so sorry. What a worry.
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amom23
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Post by amom23 on Jan 27, 2025 9:37:32 GMT
Yep your family is right to be worried. Honestly I'm not sure she should be leaving the country. There is no guarantee the new administration will honor her paperwork when she tries to return. My BIL works for Microsoft and the last Trump go around the company advised no international travel for any of their Visa holding employees for fear they wouldn't be allowed back into the USA. Microsoft suspended work travel for those employees.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 27, 2025 9:56:31 GMT
I am so sorry about the miscarriage. And what terrible timing, while your family is under enough stress as it is.
I hate to be such a worrier, but I’d be afraid to leave the country. There have just been such crazy stories of ICE personnel going power mad.
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Post by voltagain on Jan 27, 2025 9:59:34 GMT
I have written here before about my darling DIL, who is from Mexico. She and my son got married in early May, and she is trying to do all the right things to be able to live and work here legally. I really had no idea what all goes into it, but it is first of all, expensive. They are working with an immigration attorney, but they are trying to save the money they need to file everything and pay the attorney. I've been nervous about it all since before Trump was elected, but I am even more nervous now that I see what is going on. No, I don't think anyone is going to come knocking on their door, but I do worry about her being out and about. Since she can't work yet, she is home by herself while my son works, and she does go out to a nearby park to walk with her dog. Last week, she had a miscarriage. Of all days, on inauguration day. She was afraid to even go to an urgent care because right now, she is just here on a visa. It's good until July, so she is not here illegally, but she is scared, and I don't blame her. I also worry that going through the legal channels is going to be so much more difficult for her now. I am hoping that within a month or so, I can loan them the remaining money they need, but I'm still worried. Worried that she is going to encounter roadblocks and have to move back to her home before it all goes through. My son will be devastated if that happens. Do you think Trump's policies are going to make it more difficult for her to go through the legal channels to be able to legally live and work here? Also, next week, she is going home to visit her family. I'm a nervous wreck about her getting back here. I hate this. I have knots in my stomach just thinking about it. A president does not have the unilateral power to change existing immigration policy other than to not enforce policies already in place. He can't make stricter policies. She is working with an immigration attorney. As long as she is diligent with following the attorney's advice she will be fine. Have her put their business card in her phone case or purse so she can call for help if she needs to do so. Also print out her most recent I-94 I-94 link and make sure she stays compliant with the regulations governing her visa AND doesn't overstay her visa. I know when my international student's got in trouble it was because they were taking advice from people on other visa types or googling for regulations and picking the regs they liked the best instead of the ones applicable to their visa type. Also make sure her passport does not expire. When it is within 6 months of expiring she needs to start the renewal process so the new one gets to her before the old one expires. The only news story I have heard about someone being detained was military related and their military papers not being accepted as legit. The problem as I see it was the story was incomplete. Military service alone does not confer US citizenship. Service gives the person the right to apply for naturalization and have that granted on a fast track basis Military Service and naturalization. It was unclear from the reporting if he provided approved naturalization papers or just his military DD2-14 showing he served. If he never completed the process he wasn't here legally even though he served. When she returns to the US she needs to make sure she stops at the customs desk to have her I-94 updated and print out a new one. It sometimes takes 48 hours for the updated I-94 to be available.. IF she has more than one US visa make sure she enters the US on the correct visa for her visit. I had students with an F1 student visa and a visitor visa enter the US on the visitor visa and not be allowed entry into the university because you cannot attend school on a visitor visa.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jan 27, 2025 12:08:37 GMT
I’d be a nervous wreck about her traveling home and coming back successfully. I agree she needs to keep everything up to date and keep all her documents handy.
Also, I’m sorry about the miscarriage. I don’t think I knew about that.
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Post by dawnnikol on Jan 27, 2025 12:22:31 GMT
I'm so sorry. This timeline sucks.
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gizzy
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Post by gizzy on Jan 27, 2025 12:30:47 GMT
I don't know enough to know if she should stay or go. My instinct would be to stay, though. I'm so sorry for her miscarriage.
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Post by Tearisci on Jan 27, 2025 12:41:32 GMT
I'm so sorry to hear about the miscarriage. I, like others, wonder if it is safe for her to travel home right now. I think I would postpone that trip given the current climate in the country now.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jan 27, 2025 13:13:00 GMT
I am so sorry. Sorry about her miscarriage, sorry about the stress. I would advise her to postpone trip. I am sure she would be fine, but is it really worth the risk?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 27, 2025 13:28:28 GMT
I agree with the others who say the trip home should be postponed unless there is a very compelling reason to go. With all the crazy going on right now, even with all the correct paperwork in hand they could scoop her up and make her life (and your whole family’s by extension) hell. To me it wouldn’t be worth taking that risk.
And where is your STBX in all this? Doesn’t he make a crapton of money? He should be helping them financially too, that shouldn’t all fall on you. I realize STBX a narcissistic asshole but your son is his kid, right? Hopefully he would want to do what he can to help his own kid out.
I’m so sorry about the miscarriage and all the added stress that’s being heaped on your family right now. Hugs, friend.
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Post by Sarah*H on Jan 27, 2025 13:30:36 GMT
Unfortunately, yes. We are anticipating huge delays in document processing by USCIS. It happened the last time and it's an easy way for them to gum up the system. And unfortunately, I think she & your son need to be proactive and start making plans for what they are going to do if she doesn't have legal status by July. Even if she can't afford the filing fees at the moment, she NEEDS to talk to her attorney about the implications of staying past the date of her visa expiration.
I'm so sorry Just T. We are living in a nightmare at the moment.
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Post by CeeScraps on Jan 27, 2025 13:37:37 GMT
I too would be nervous. I think by her going home she will be flagged. Does she "have" to go home? If not, then she probably shouldn't. I would bet with the miscarriage she just wants her mom. I'm so sorry.....
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Post by gracieplusthree on Jan 27, 2025 13:45:41 GMT
I know she wants to ho visit family however id be really really hesitant to leave the country for fear of not getting back here...
It's just all so awful .
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Post by mikklynn on Jan 27, 2025 14:15:01 GMT
No advice for you, just giant hugs.
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Post by Mel on Jan 27, 2025 14:25:42 GMT
I don't mean to add to your worry but I would strongly suggest she doesn't go to visit just yet. I have a friend who's SIL went to visit family, he has a student visa (completely legal), due to a family emergency (his grandmother died), and he is stuck. They would not let him come back "until things settle down". That is what he was told when he asked for the reason. ALL of his paperwork is completely legal and in order, he has a lawyer AND the school representative who are both trying to figure things out but he has been there almost a week past his planned visit (he was supposed to return on Wednesday the 22nd).
I'm so sorry your family is in this mess. My condolences for the miscarriage too.
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Post by jill8909 on Jan 27, 2025 15:52:20 GMT
Echoing the advice not to leave the country. Laws exist but MAGA actions so far are to ignore them and let people sue. Good luck.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 27, 2025 15:59:02 GMT
no advice for you, but just wanted to say I can totally understand the worrying, and I am so sorry for your son and DIL's loss.
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Post by voltagain on Jan 27, 2025 17:11:27 GMT
I don't mean to add to your worry but I would strongly suggest she doesn't go to visit just yet. I have a friend who's SIL went to visit family, he has a student visa (completely legal), due to a family emergency (his grandmother died), and he is stuck. They would not let him come back "until things settle down". That is what he was told when he asked for the reason. ALL of his paperwork is completely legal and in order, he has a lawyer AND the school representative who are both trying to figure things out but he has been there almost a week past his planned visit (he was supposed to return on Wednesday the 22nd). I'm so sorry your family is in this mess. My condolences for the miscarriage too. I'll share what I know after being a school rep that I couldn't share with students or anyone else when situations like this came up. Invariably it turned out the student had been involved in some "illegal" activity in their home country. I am using quotes on the illegal as it may have been as minor as an unpaid parking ticket, stopped for speeding 2 mph over the posted limit, or much more serious but their name/biometrics came up on a police report that is available to customs agents pre-boarding. The when things "settle down" means when the parking fine shows up as paid and his name is off the list. ANY involvement with the other country's police for ANY reason can get a student listed like this. I had on incidence where it wasn't the actual student but someone with the same name and same birthdate (which can be a problem in countries that have a fairly small pool of names in use) He had a miss about 10 weeks out of a 16 week semester to get it all cleared up. Tell him to tell his lawyer about any police contact anywhere no matter how insignificant it seems to him.
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Post by voltagain on Jan 27, 2025 17:14:21 GMT
I do agree with the others... encourage her to stay in the US if at all possible. I know she is going to want her family around her right now. IF she has applied for a green card she can't leave the US without jeopardizing approval. She needs to talk to the lawyer before leaving.
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Post by Mel on Jan 27, 2025 17:20:50 GMT
I don't mean to add to your worry but I would strongly suggest she doesn't go to visit just yet. I have a friend who's SIL went to visit family, he has a student visa (completely legal), due to a family emergency (his grandmother died), and he is stuck. They would not let him come back "until things settle down". That is what he was told when he asked for the reason. ALL of his paperwork is completely legal and in order, he has a lawyer AND the school representative who are both trying to figure things out but he has been there almost a week past his planned visit (he was supposed to return on Wednesday the 22nd). I'm so sorry your family is in this mess. My condolences for the miscarriage too. I'll share what I know after being a school rep that I couldn't share with students or anyone else when situations like this came up. Invariably it turned out the student had been involved in some "illegal" activity in their home country. I am using quotes on the illegal as it may have been as minor as an unpaid parking ticket, stopped for speeding 2 mph over the posted limit, or much more serious but their name/biometrics came up on a police report that is available to customs agents pre-boarding. The when things "settle down" means when the parking fine shows up as paid and his name is off the list. ANY involvement with the other country's police for ANY reason can get a student listed like this. I had on incidence where it wasn't the actual student but someone with the same name and same birthdate (which can be a problem in countries that have a fairly small pool of names in use) He had a miss about 10 weeks out of a 16 week semester to get it all cleared up. Tell him to tell his lawyer about any police contact anywhere no matter how insignificant it seems to him. I will be sure to mention this to them!! I have no idea if this was something that happened or not, he really is a great kid and wonderful student (here lol) so I'm not sure if this would be the reasoning. His family is all so worried, and he is having an issue even finding a place to stay down there at the moment (his family there lives hours from where he is since he flew into a big city). It is quite a mess. One good thing I suppose is that the school he is attending (UofI) is working with him and he has arranged to work on his school work online so as not to miss anything and mess up his graduation status. I honestly don't know the ins and outs of it all just how worrisome it all is.
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Post by epeanymous on Jan 27, 2025 17:57:34 GMT
Is it possible for her to consult a free immigration attorney? I don’t want to be alarmist (and don’t intend to be) but my cousin was in a similar situation in less fraught times and having a lawyer was really helpful. I know that a lot of law schools right now are gearing up clinics to help people with immigration issues for free, and there are also some nonprofits that provide free immigration help, so it is worth looking into.
I am sorry you (and she) have to worry, and hope this gets straightened out.
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Post by Merge on Jan 27, 2025 18:09:46 GMT
I am so sorry. I hope people like you will keep highlighting the real human cost of this insanity. It's easy to shrug and say "this is what's best" when you don't actually know or love anyone who is undocumented. It's much harder when you can put real names, faces, and stories with people now living in fear.
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TXMary
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Post by TXMary on Jan 27, 2025 18:26:14 GMT
I'm so sorry about the miscarriage. I have to agree with others that she should seriously think about postponing her trip.
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Post by lurker on Jan 27, 2025 18:59:42 GMT
Your family has been thru too much. Sorry for the loss and for the worry.
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Post by moodyblue on Jan 27, 2025 20:03:58 GMT
I don't know a lot about the legal process and laws, but every instinct I have says she should not leave the country. I really think she might have problems getting back. Even if Trump tries to gum up the works in an illegal way, it could end up delaying things while it’s battled in court. Once she’s out of the country, any small thing could prevent her getting back in.
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Post by Rhondito on Jan 27, 2025 20:13:38 GMT
There's no way in hell I'd leave the country right now if I were in her shoes. In some states, I'd be afraid to step outside.
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Post by teddyw on Jan 27, 2025 22:30:53 GMT
I wouldn’t leave the country right now. He could change the rules tomorrow.
My nephew & sil have had to stay in their home counties for unexpected visa issues a few years back. They weren’t expired but within the 6 month window of expiration.
My sil has been here on a student visa then an H1B whatever it’s called for work. He literally was an indentured servant on that. No raise, no promotion and threats of we won’t sponsor you again by his employer. Now that he & dd married he has a green card. Approved in November but for only 2 years which is not the norm because they’d only been married 1 year. The last update dd gave me they’d spent $10,700.
I used to work at a utility pre-covid and the people on the H1B visas were so stressed out all the time.
I’m sorry she miscarried.
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