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Post by FuzzyMutt on Feb 3, 2025 14:24:00 GMT
It’s an Elon Musk company, and the general take away is electric (likely proprietary Teslas lol) drive around (driverless) in underground tunnel system to avoid/lessen surface traffic. Currently, there are tunnel (tunnels ?) being dug under Vegas. He was allowed to do so without the same sort of safety/environmental etc studies that a beta in, say NY, SF, DC or Boston would require. The reason I dropped it here is… what interest would a car manufacturer have in stopping a lot of WFH? Increase congestion and traffic in these major cities, get a couple government agencies off his balls by rubbing Trump’s, get the contracts and infrastructure money. He would have trouble selling such a thing to a Blue state/city… but friends in high places etc. I mean, we all know he’s stoked about Mars, this is easy and he already has the tech to make it happen. Disclaimer—- it’s been a while since I really dug into The Boring Company (pun intended…) so I have no idea where in the process the Vegas project is. I just read an article about the 68 miles of miles of Elon tunnels under Las Vegas.. as deleted it.. oops! *** It twice installed tunnels without permits to work on county property. State and local environmental regulators documented it dumping untreated water into storm drains and the sewer system. And, as local politicians were approving an extension of the system, Boring workers were filing complaints with the state Occupational Safety and Health Administration about “ankle-deep” water in the tunnels, muck spills and severe chemical burns. After an investigation, Nevada OSHA in 2023 fined the company more than $112,000. Boring disputed the regulators’ allegations and contested the violations. The complaints have continued. “The Boring company is at it again,” an employee of the Clark County Water Reclamation District wrote to the agency’s general manager and legal counsel in June, after video showed water spilling from a company-owned property into the street near the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. Tyler Fairbanks, a Boring Company manager, emailed the county official, saying “we take this very seriously and we are working to correct what is going on.” In August, a Las Vegas Valley Water District staffer documented a similar issue. On both occasions, the county issued cease-and-desist letters but did not fine Boring. www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-company-is-tunneling-beneath-las-vegas-with-little-oversight/The operating philosophy is since it’s privately funded, let them do what they want and fine them later. But that doesn’t protect our environment, our property, or our lives. For example, greater density shouldn’t be the goal in Vegas, or Phoenix or any of these places where even just water supply is precarious. Even more mind blowing. These fines are a literal drop in the bucket. Our condo building in FL (inept HOA management) has gotten us fined more than $120k in 2025 alone (not a typo!) That sounds like a lot- but it’s nothing. $200k of fines is the cost of office supplies for a company like this. Literally a drop in the bucket line item.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Feb 4, 2025 9:17:55 GMT
I just read an article about the 68 miles of miles of Elon tunnels under Las Vegas.. as deleted it.. oops! *** It twice installed tunnels without permits to work on county property. State and local environmental regulators documented it dumping untreated water into storm drains and the sewer system. And, as local politicians were approving an extension of the system, Boring workers were filing complaints with the state Occupational Safety and Health Administration about “ankle-deep” water in the tunnels, muck spills and severe chemical burns. After an investigation, Nevada OSHA in 2023 fined the company more than $112,000. Boring disputed the regulators’ allegations and contested the violations. The complaints have continued. “The Boring company is at it again,” an employee of the Clark County Water Reclamation District wrote to the agency’s general manager and legal counsel in June, after video showed water spilling from a company-owned property into the street near the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. Tyler Fairbanks, a Boring Company manager, emailed the county official, saying “we take this very seriously and we are working to correct what is going on.” In August, a Las Vegas Valley Water District staffer documented a similar issue. On both occasions, the county issued cease-and-desist letters but did not fine Boring. www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-company-is-tunneling-beneath-las-vegas-with-little-oversight/The operating philosophy is since it’s privately funded, let them do what they want and fine them later. But that doesn’t protect our environment, our property, or our lives. For example, greater density shouldn’t be the goal in Vegas, or Phoenix or any of these places where even just water supply is precarious. Even more mind blowing. These fines are a literal drop in the bucket. Our condo building in FL (inept HOA management) has gotten us fined more than $120k in 2025 alone (not a typo!) That sounds like a lot- but it’s nothing. $200k of fines is the cost of office supplies for a company like this. Literally a drop in the bucket line item. How much do you want to bet that Elonia has his fingers deep into some water system technology in the works to provide water purification/reclamation services. He would herald himself as the savior of area that are facing water shortages due to climate change and would make a killing off of controlling water supplies. This would also help explain trump’s recent fascination with California’s recent water issues, I.e. laying the groundwork for federal subsidies for Elonia’s research and development of such a system.
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 4, 2025 21:53:04 GMT
I just saw on the Alt National Parks post that employees are being sent saying that layoffs would begin if not enough people take the buyout. I asked DS if he had gotten one and he said no but his department is exempt from the hiring freeze so he doubts it will apply to him.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 4, 2025 22:07:30 GMT
What is happening now... After President Donald Trump offered a buyout for federal workers, one employee who works at a federal agency decided to take the deal — and has not heard back, despite the deadline being Thursday. The employee shared their experience with ABC News on Monday. The “Fork in the Road” program offers federal employees the option to resign but continue receiving pay until September. The move is part of an attempt by the Department of Government Efficiency head Elon Musk to shrink the government. Some experts have said this move would be illegal because it is promising funds for a budget that Congress has not yet approved. *** They emailed the word “resign,” following the Office of Personnel Management’s instructions. They soon got a response: "We received your email response. We will reply shortly." Almost a week later, the employee has not heard anything else, and the deadline is fast approaching. Colleagues at their agency, they said, have been confused about the deal. Management, they said, had been silent; when they told management about their decision to resign, management apparently did not respond. The worker went to management again, and they were told “they should have waited for more guidance before accepting the offer,” ABC News’ Will Steakin wrote. Management also told them that they would still have to do their job after they resigned, although they later walked back that claim. Last week, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said that this program is a way to get people back into the workforce. "We're all here at work, at the office," Leavitt said. "There are law enforcement officers and teachers and nurses across the country who showed up to the office today. People in this city need to do the same. It's an overwhelmingly popular policy with people outside of Washington, D.C." www.rawstory.com/crickets-federal-workers-met-with-silence-after-trying-to-take-trump-s-buyouts/
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Post by jill8909 on Feb 4, 2025 22:12:36 GMT
Here's the thing. Let's say you decide you think the government is bloated, has too many people and spends too much. That's a policy decision that is an appropriate topic for debate in a civilized democracy.
There are laws in place, passed by our elected representatives.
You don't like a program that Congress authorized? You lobby to get rid of it. You lose the argument, you manage the program. You win the argument, have a party.
You think you can run an agency with fewer employees? you go through the statutory Reduction in Force process.
You don't make up new rules and ignore the law FOR ANY REASON.
We used to be a country of laws.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 4, 2025 22:14:23 GMT
It is getting worse by the hour!!
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Post by jill8909 on Feb 4, 2025 22:14:54 GMT
I just saw on the Alt National Parks post that employees are being sent saying that layoffs would begin if not enough people take the buyout. I asked DS if he had gotten one and he said no but his department is exempt from the hiring freeze so he doubts it will apply to him. Best of luck. Be very careful about posting anything on line. Musk now has access to all our information and I do not believe any of our anonymous accounts are actually anonymous. Federal employees and their families need to be very careful. Look what is happening to the FBI. it is scary.
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 6, 2025 22:30:12 GMT
Just read that a federal judge in Massachusetts has temporarily paused the buyout initiative that was supposed to be in place by midnight tonight.
I hope we get more of these judges standing up for things as they go down.
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Post by stittsygirl on Feb 7, 2025 1:38:41 GMT
We’re military retirees and I was seen at our military family clinic today. All the federal employees there, including the doctors and nurses, were sent the buyout letters too. My nurse, who I’ve known for eight years now, said they are all standing strong and aren’t going to take the offer. I can’t believe they are trying to oust federal healthcare workers as well.
The stupidity seems endless…
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 7, 2025 2:14:11 GMT
There are more changes to the so called buyouts... Federal employees on Thursday were put on notice by the Trump administration that workers with less than stellar performance reviews would face immediate termination as the focus shifts from offering resignation buyouts to poor performers, according to media reports.The new development comes as the president and his billionaire ally at the Department of Government Efficiency Elon Musk increase their bullying tactics to fulfill their vow of upending the federal workforce. So far, the so-called “buyout” program has received more than 50,000 takers across federal agencies, Bloomberg reported Thursday. But that is just a fraction of the more than 2 million people currently employed by the U.S. government. Now, a new memo gives federal agencies until March 7 to compile lists of their poorest performing employees as the administration looks to advance a “tougher posture,” according to Bloomberg. *** The memo from the Office of Personnel Management instructed agencies to come up with lists of “all employees who received less than a ‘fully successful’ performance rating in the past three years.” OPM acting director Charles Ezell, who wrote the memo, said the information would be used “to swiftly terminate poor performing employees.” *** The memo “is the latest in a series of directives implementing Trump’s executive orders demanding sweeping changes to the federal workforce,” Bloomberg noted. www.rawstory.com/federal-employees-trump-2671111847/
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Post by yivit on Feb 7, 2025 12:18:21 GMT
There are more changes to the so called buyouts... Federal employees on Thursday were put on notice by the Trump administration that workers with less than stellar performance reviews would face immediate termination as the focus shifts from offering resignation buyouts to poor performers, according to media reports.The new development comes as the president and his billionaire ally at the Department of Government Efficiency Elon Musk increase their bullying tactics to fulfill their vow of upending the federal workforce. So far, the so-called “buyout” program has received more than 50,000 takers across federal agencies, Bloomberg reported Thursday. But that is just a fraction of the more than 2 million people currently employed by the U.S. government. Now, a new memo gives federal agencies until March 7 to compile lists of their poorest performing employees as the administration looks to advance a “tougher posture,” according to Bloomberg. *** The memo from the Office of Personnel Management instructed agencies to come up with lists of “all employees who received less than a ‘fully successful’ performance rating in the past three years.” OPM acting director Charles Ezell, who wrote the memo, said the information would be used “to swiftly terminate poor performing employees.” *** The memo “is the latest in a series of directives implementing Trump’s executive orders demanding sweeping changes to the federal workforce,” Bloomberg noted. www.rawstory.com/federal-employees-trump-2671111847/For those of us in the federal space (I'm a contractor so not directly affected YET by all these EOs and EMs, but we know we will be once they get the civil servant side done), this is no surprise. I'm betting that will be a very long list though if the CS side is like the contractor side, where it's difficult to get the top mark on performance reviews.
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Post by Merge on Feb 7, 2025 14:31:48 GMT
There are more changes to the so called buyouts... Federal employees on Thursday were put on notice by the Trump administration that workers with less than stellar performance reviews would face immediate termination as the focus shifts from offering resignation buyouts to poor performers, according to media reports.The new development comes as the president and his billionaire ally at the Department of Government Efficiency Elon Musk increase their bullying tactics to fulfill their vow of upending the federal workforce. So far, the so-called “buyout” program has received more than 50,000 takers across federal agencies, Bloomberg reported Thursday. But that is just a fraction of the more than 2 million people currently employed by the U.S. government. Now, a new memo gives federal agencies until March 7 to compile lists of their poorest performing employees as the administration looks to advance a “tougher posture,” according to Bloomberg. *** The memo from the Office of Personnel Management instructed agencies to come up with lists of “all employees who received less than a ‘fully successful’ performance rating in the past three years.” OPM acting director Charles Ezell, who wrote the memo, said the information would be used “to swiftly terminate poor performing employees.” *** The memo “is the latest in a series of directives implementing Trump’s executive orders demanding sweeping changes to the federal workforce,” Bloomberg noted. www.rawstory.com/federal-employees-trump-2671111847/For those of us in the federal space (I'm a contractor so not directly affected YET by all these EOs and EMs, but we know we will be once they get the civil servant side done), this is no surprise. I'm betting that will be a very long list though if the CS side is like the contractor side, where it's difficult to get the top mark on performance reviews. I rather think the end game is to privatize/use contractors for a lot of the services that are being cut so that someone can profit from them.
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Post by yivit on Feb 8, 2025 12:12:45 GMT
For those of us in the federal space (I'm a contractor so not directly affected YET by all these EOs and EMs, but we know we will be once they get the civil servant side done), this is no surprise. I'm betting that will be a very long list though if the CS side is like the contractor side, where it's difficult to get the top mark on performance reviews. I rather think the end game is to privatize/use contractors for a lot of the services that are being cut so that someone can profit from them. I can tell you that in my agency, the contractor workforce far outnumbers the civil servants. I've also seen swings before where that balance has shifted. In some areas, the CS are merely management types; in others, the CS are more hands on and technical. Mine currently are a mix, but they sometimes struggle on the technical part because they've not been 'in the weeds' for so long they haven't used the tools and processes now in place enough to do things without asking me for help... yeah, I'm still a little crusty about one of them getting that job over me 3 years ago. Some days (like the last few weeks) I'm glad I'm on the contractor side right now!
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 8, 2025 14:22:18 GMT
Just spoke with DS. They are headed back into the office on Monday working in office in 4 hours shifts because there aren't enough workspaces for everyone,. They're 800-900 seats short. I'm sure this is happening across the board with lack of office space. DS has his meeting for his ADA accommodation on Wednesday so I'm hoping that will go through for him. He's really stressed about being in the office that much.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Feb 8, 2025 14:38:28 GMT
Just spoke with DS. They are headed back into the office on Monday working in office in 4 hours shifts because there aren't enough workspaces for everyone,. They're 800-900 seats short. I'm sure this is happening across the board with lack of office space. DS has his meeting for his ADA accommodation on Wednesday so I'm hoping that will go through for him. He's really stressed about being in the office that much. Thats interesting, so are they saying he can go in to the office 4 hrs and work the other 4 hrs from home? I thought all TW agreements were terminated, so I hope they can make this work...
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 8, 2025 14:39:58 GMT
Just spoke with DS. They are headed back into the office on Monday working in office in 4 hours shifts because there aren't enough workspaces for everyone,. They're 800-900 seats short. I'm sure this is happening across the board with lack of office space. DS has his meeting for his ADA accommodation on Wednesday so I'm hoping that will go through for him. He's really stressed about being in the office that much. Thats interesting, so are they saying he can go in to the office 4 hrs and work the other 4 hrs from home? I thought all TW agreements were terminated, so I hope they can make this work... Yeah that's how I understood it. They just don't have room for everyone to come back 8 hours a day.
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Post by wordfish on Feb 8, 2025 18:08:06 GMT
Not all WFH arrangements are terminated yet. My husband has a hybrid situation, 4 days at home, 1 day at the office per week. I think it's pretty likely they are going to tell him to come back to the office full time, but nothing yet.
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 8, 2025 18:10:51 GMT
Not all WFH arrangements are terminated yet. My husband has a hybrid situation, 4 days at home, 1 day at the office per week. I think it's pretty likely they are going to tell him to come back to the office full time, but nothing yet. That's what my DS had before they ordered them back in the office next week. I'm sure it's rolling out agency by agency.
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Post by wordfish on Feb 8, 2025 18:34:18 GMT
Not all WFH arrangements are terminated yet. My husband has a hybrid situation, 4 days at home, 1 day at the office per week. I think it's pretty likely they are going to tell him to come back to the office full time, but nothing yet. That's what my DS had before they ordered them back in the office next week. I'm sure it's rolling out agency by agency. Probably what's preventing it at the moment is that my husband's agency had a collective bargaining agreement that went into effect more than 30 days before the inauguration and it spelled out the continuation of the current WFH situation. I realize that the President thinks he has found a way around even that, and maybe he has, though I don't think it will survive lawsuits. My husband will just go back to the office full-time if that is the case. Our offices are about ten minutes apart, so we'll just carpool 5 days a week instead of 1. He told me this past carpool day that he still has all of his desk stuff in a box in one of the bedrooms, so he'll just take it back to work and set it all up again. I think he went and got it at some point during the pandemic, when he WFH 100% full-time and then never brought it back. I think for my husband's agency, only a very small percentage WFH.
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Post by yivit on Feb 9, 2025 14:24:56 GMT
Thats interesting, so are they saying he can go in to the office 4 hrs and work the other 4 hrs from home? I thought all TW agreements were terminated, so I hope they can make this work... Yeah that's how I understood it. They just don't have room for everyone to come back 8 hours a day. The notifications that went out last month, at least in the Agency I work, served as the official 30 day notice to terminate remote agreements for civil servants. They're working in parallel with that to identify adequate onsite spaces for those remote workers, so they're still WFH until given a space. This includes 'distant remote' where the employee is more than 50 miles from a facility within our agency. I suppose we're luckier than some (in the grand scheme of things) because my center is a dedicated facility and didn't have leases expired or terminated the past few years. Not all locations or agencies are that lucky. That said, the building I'm in lost 50-100 spots for people when a decision was made last year to move a warehouse for one of the contracts from an off-site location to the first floor of my building. I know all those people 'displaced' from that warehouse move will eventually have to come back (they're all contractors). I also know the contractor does not have space off-site for them. They also have eyes on where I sit, as there are 11 spots in the 16-cube 'shotgun shack' room available. The trick is that any new occupants will have to be in the same group as those of us already in there and have the same clearance AND need-to-know. This makes me think they're probably going to have to move us to a different secure area (that doesn't currently exist unless they kick people out of some of the smaller offices on our floor). I know my govvie doesn't want to sit in some group environment, but it's not up to him ultimately. It's a nightmare for sure.
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Post by wordfish on Feb 9, 2025 23:18:26 GMT
It's an interesting, weird, not-that-fun time. My husband is close to oblivious about all of this, so I feel like I have to track everything closely. Apparently our children do also and the same thoughts are swirling around in their heads that have swirled around in mine: "Dad, whatever you do, don't respond to the email with 'resign LOL.'"
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