jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Jan 30, 2025 23:59:30 GMT
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Post by Embri on Jan 31, 2025 0:07:20 GMT
Saved you a click: * Asked what DEI meant in bad faith, proceeded to brigade replies. * Forgiven PPP loan on "self-funded" business. * "Diversity, equity and inclusion is racist" -> quote from this lady.
Can't say I agree on the punching down about anyone's looks the way drinkablebryan does in the response video, but especially the last point above is more than enough of a black character mark.
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paget
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Post by paget on Jan 31, 2025 0:23:15 GMT
Thank you for posting this. I have been waiting to make an order with them but now I will pass. Extremely disappointing.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Jan 31, 2025 0:28:11 GMT
Can't say I agree on the punching down about anyone's looks If you're going to say r*cist stuff, all bets are off so I don't have a problem with him commenting on people's looks.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 31, 2025 0:33:38 GMT
Can't say I agree on the punching down about anyone's looks the way drinkablebryan does in the response video, but especially the last point above is more than enough of a black character mark. As someone who is currently straddling the "line free / old neck" fence at the moment, I agree with this.  It's not necessary when the person you're insulting has plenty of character flaws to focus on. The rest of his points are spot on.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Jan 31, 2025 0:45:21 GMT
As an old crepe neck lady too, it doesn’t bother me.
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Gennifer
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 31, 2025 1:04:52 GMT
ETA: The original video, which is, I think, better: www.instagram.com/reel/DFXeK7Boc_j/?igsh=MWgxYWExdmVmbzcwYw==I don’t know why he had to attack irrelevant things in the second one. A mutual friend sent the first one to me yesterday, and it was so hard to watch. I was IRL friends with Chari, and also worked with her professionally… (we even did a combined booth with our two companies at a scrapbook expo once), but haven’t seen her in person for a few years. I knew she leaned conservative based on a couple of conversations we had back in the 2016 era, but she was always careful to keep that kind of stuff very private. I ended up unfriending her at some point in the last year or two as I’ve been purging people out of my social media that I don’t actually interact with any more, so I didn’t realize how openly MAGA she’d become. (I looked at her profile after my friend sent the video, before she made it private.)
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Post by Embri on Jan 31, 2025 2:42:21 GMT
Can't say I agree on the punching down about anyone's looks If you're going to say r*cist stuff, all bets are off so I don't have a problem with him commenting on people's looks. Better to keep the focus on the actual grievances, rather than weakening one's own stance by pointing out things that don't matter.
I'm not condoning this woman's statements - they're inexcusable. But who cares what she looks like? Making fun of someone's appearance doesn't reflect badly on them, it just makes the accuser look like a bully. It's grade school level "you're ugly and stink!".
You want to know what makes her ugly? Thinking that diversity is racist or unfair. Failing to recognize her privilege. Rules for thee but not for me. That's what makes her ugly.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Jan 31, 2025 3:28:08 GMT
If you're going to say r*cist stuff, all bets are off so I don't have a problem with him commenting on people's looks. Better to keep the focus on the actual grievances, rather than weakening one's own stance by pointing out things that don't matter.
I'm not condoning this woman's statements - they're inexcusable. But who cares what she looks like? Making fun of someone's appearance doesn't reflect badly on them, it just makes the accuser look like a bully. It's grade school level "you're ugly and stink!".
You want to know what makes her ugly? Thinking that diversity is racist or unfair. Failing to recognize her privilege. Rules for thee but not for me. That's what makes her ugly.
Okay. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
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Post by lanena on Jan 31, 2025 3:44:33 GMT
Oh, jeez...I've been such a loyal customer the past few years. I don't think I can overlook this. Alternatives to Persnickety? I don't like Shutterfly's quality. I miss Costco's printing services. Maybe I need to save up for a good quality photo printer so I can just print my photos at home.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Jan 31, 2025 4:01:14 GMT
Alternatives to Persnickety? Mpix is great but they can be pricey. They do have 50% off sales from time to time so it's worth getting on their mailing list.I don't suggest Mpix anymore, see my post lower down in the thread.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Jan 31, 2025 4:05:57 GMT
Thanks Gennifer for posting the original. I added it to my OP so people can choose to watch the "offensive" one or the original one.
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Post by scrapcat on Jan 31, 2025 17:41:19 GMT
TFS, I am not on sm much these days and wouldn't see this otherwise. This is highly disappointing and also confusing because I felt like I had seen a different tone.
I go out of my way to support small business and esp woman owned small business. I've used them for years and have supported them with reviews and referrals (mostly here). I've had good customer service with them, though I've read that has not always been the case for others.
I have been using mpix more lately because I found the quality more consistent than PP. As far digital sb pages, I know of another company Scrapping Simply, also Utah based. I used them initially (like 15 years ago?) then magically it turned into PP and I wonder if they were related at some point in the past. Found some evidence that it's the same owner.
For the life of me will never understand why business ppl or anyone associated with a company/brand posts stuff like that on the internet. It's revealing in many ways, but my logical reasoning mostly sees stupidity.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 1, 2025 4:19:41 GMT
Yeah, can't see supporting that business anymore.
People have the right to say what they believe. People also have the right to walk away from supporting a business. Doesn't make sense that she would want to hurt her business.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Feb 1, 2025 6:40:55 GMT
People have the right to say what they believe. People also have the right to walk away from supporting a business. Doesn't make sense that she would want to hurt her business. She seems like someone who would cry about getting "cancelled", and those type of people don't understand that there are consequences for their actions. It would be so sad if these people weren't so infuriatingly ignorant. 
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gizzy
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Post by gizzy on Feb 1, 2025 12:34:36 GMT
I've loved and promoted this company from day one. Even with the prints curling and somewhat browning on the backside with this last order. Done. This is disgusting. ETA: jediannie you should post this on NSBR, also.
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FuzzyMutt
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Feb 1, 2025 16:23:18 GMT
tldr;
Does anyone have the link to what she actually said? Without being chopped up, and having only snippets presented?
The reason:
I have been (exclusively) using Persnickety since the launch of Ali's Hybrid class. (That's where I heard about it.) And I have been NOTHING but pleased with it. (FWIW- I did try the "Box" service referenced in old boy's loan posts, and didn't like it. They let me out of my subscription with an email.)
I use social media to keep up with my family and some businesses, but follow (VERY) few business owners etc. In other words, yes, Persnickety posts pop up for me, and I learn about promos or sales. But, I don't follow Cheri (nor do I have any ties to scrapbooking "celebrities." I have no time, or patience for that, really.)
I watched both videos where less than 10 word clips were interrupted by a guy who thinks he's cute, and likely makes his living by creating content that I would never watch.
One of the reasons I put so little time into such things is that I don't enjoy watching snippets be twisted into something they are not. Is there an actual link to the content SHE posted?
I certainly am not disputing what she said was racist etc- just that I personally didn't see enough to have that take away for myself. And, given I DO use her business to print hundreds of dollars of prints at least quarterly (last order earlier this month over $400) I'd like to be certain before I take my business and money elsewhere. Because I've been very happy with their service and quality.
As to the discussion- I believe that a business owner has a right to whatever opinion they have. And, most likely, it's best, no matter how flawlessly virtuous you are to just keep it to the business on socials. I don't buy anything from Penzey's because of the incessant political emails. When you put it out there and make it a tenant of your business that I have to think about when I click "check out", I as the consumer have the right to decide whether to enrich your pockets. So---- given anything else said (by me- say whatever yall want!) I agree, this should go over to the NSBR hahah
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Lurkingpea
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Post by Lurkingpea on Feb 1, 2025 17:22:13 GMT
I don’t post much here, but I do read periodically. I hate that the guy in the video denigrates the woman about her looks. That is just petty and only makes him look like an idiot. That being said, persnickety prints were dead to me when they doxxed a member here. They have a history of terrible customer service. If I still ordered from them this would have been the nail in the coffin. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/123778/persnickety-prints-ehhh-update-first
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Feb 1, 2025 17:27:13 GMT
If someone wants to share this over on NSBR, go ahead. I generally don't post over there.
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Post by lanena on Feb 1, 2025 19:51:10 GMT
If someone wants to share this over on NSBR, go ahead. I generally don't post over there. I don't blame you--it's scary over there. For me, this is very much scrapbook-related. Editing and printing my photos is such a big part of what I do. I literally have a folder on my desktop that says: "Send to Persnickety." I've been very pleased with the photos I've received and have never had any issues. Honestly, the whole thing hurts my feelings. I am an immigrant, and a retired teacher. My whole life, I've worked towards helping students and others feel included. Do they even want people like me as a customer? I hope someone from Persnickety reads this thread. I hope we find out that the video was altered and that it's not really reflective of the company's values. I would stick around if I knew that the founder isn't as dismissive as she sounds in the video.
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Post by pantsonfire on Feb 1, 2025 19:52:43 GMT
I saw a pea post on IG that she actually no longer owns the company and they haven't updated their website company info to share who does. She has some other smaller business.
Don't know how true but just an FYI
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Post by pantsonfire on Feb 1, 2025 19:56:22 GMT
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Post by pantsonfire on Feb 1, 2025 19:56:56 GMT
Drups Ventures owns it now. Chari has nothing to do with the company.
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Feb 1, 2025 19:58:46 GMT
Drups Ventures owns it now. Chari has nothing to do with the company. It says she is no longer an owner. It does not clarify her involvement in the company.
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Post by melanell on Feb 1, 2025 20:14:37 GMT
Persnickety Prints rubbed me the wrong way waaaay back in the beginning (a real lack of customer service) and I never purchased from them again. But this is a whole different level from what annoyed me when they first started.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Feb 1, 2025 20:21:33 GMT
Drups Ventures owns it now. Chari has nothing to do with the company. It says she is no longer an owner. It does not clarify her involvement in the company. She had Persnickety in her profile of her personal account (that was public before she made it private after all this) so she is still involved with them somehow I guess. Or maybe not and she's resting on her laurels. 
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Feb 1, 2025 20:31:02 GMT
Also, just as an FYI: Mpix is part of Miller Professional Imaging which has donated to mainly Republican campaigns/causes. I personally see where businesses donate to so I can make buying decisions that way. I generally try and not buy things from companies that do not align with my values.
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Feb 1, 2025 21:25:59 GMT
It says she is no longer an owner. It does not clarify her involvement in the company. She had Persnickety in her profile of her personal account (that was public before she made it private after all this) so she is still involved with them somehow I guess. Or maybe not and she's resting on her laurels.  Yep. I looked the day this thread was started and since the Persnickety Prints IG account had turned off comments, the Persnickety box account was replying to comments with a justification that the guy calling her out was taking things out of context or some sort of excuse like that. There was nothing repudiating her or her statements. So that told me everything I needed to know about the company.
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peacentral
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Post by peacentral on Feb 1, 2025 22:03:45 GMT
Drups Ventures owns it now. Chari has nothing to do with the company. It says she is no longer an owner. It does not clarify her involvement in the company. Yes. Because she does not own it it still means she could be a major stock holder - just not more than 51%
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Post by pantsonfire on Feb 1, 2025 23:37:13 GMT
Just posted what I saw. Never used them. Have no idea who she is or who they are.
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