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Post by Delta Dawn on Feb 20, 2025 14:42:34 GMT
If you vote for a deranged nazi who is in Putin’s pocket, threatening allies and making so many people’s lives a living nightmare, you do not have the right to not be called out for being the scum that you are. Pussy. Or ass. I love your directness! |
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Post by hutchfan on Feb 20, 2025 15:27:33 GMT
I am sad she left. I too wish the political stuff could be on a separate board.
I hardly participate in anything here anymore it's that bad and you can't start hardly ANY thread without someone turning it political.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 20, 2025 15:32:40 GMT
Pretty sure a lot of people would leave because it seems if you voted for Trump there are only extremely nasty and hate filled things said to you---it is though people do not have the right to support whoever they want to. I never say such horrible things said to people as were said to those that are Trump supporters. If people leave, it is probably because they do not wish to be verbally abused for their right to choose for themselves. If you vote for a deranged nazi who is in Putin’s pocket, threatening allies and making so many people’s lives a living nightmare, you do not have the right to not be called out for being the scum that you are. Let’s also not ignore that this pea has said some pretty nasty things to others on the political threads herself. |
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Post by pinklady on Feb 20, 2025 15:38:57 GMT
This is one place I can be myself and discuss things like that with like-minded people who - to your point - I know to be real, actual people and not bots. I value that greatly. Not sure what to do. I appreciate your honest post. One thing that can be done is to refrain from responding to the resident handful of magat trolls. There is no "discussion" with them. Zero. None. But the back and forth of 'I know you are but what am I' for 10 pages is absurd. You are NEVER going to change their mind and they are NEVER going to change your mind. There is zero reason to engage with them yet a handful of the liberal peas just cannot stop themselves. The back and forth with them is NOT "discussing things with like-minded people". I'm well aware of my posting style/history so take this however you need to. That said, with the exception of a couple weeks ago, I do not engage with these magats and won't. If the other liberal peas did the same, it would probably lead to more "discussion" of a topic and not be so off-putting to others. Just my two cents. |
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Post by lindas on Feb 20, 2025 16:03:07 GMT
Pretty sure a lot of people would leave because it seems if you voted for Trump there are only extremely nasty and hate filled things said to you---it is though people do not have the right to support whoever they want to. I never say such horrible things said to people as were said to those that are Trump supporters. If people leave, it is probably because they do not wish to be verbally abused for their right to choose for themselves. If you vote for a deranged nazi who is in Putin’s pocket, threatening allies and making so many people’s lives a living nightmare, you do not have the right to not be called out for being the scum that you are. This type of response is exactly why people leave. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 20, 2025 16:03:40 GMT
This is one place I can be myself and discuss things like that with like-minded people who - to your point - I know to be real, actual people and not bots. I value that greatly. Not sure what to do. I appreciate your honest post. One thing that can be done is to refrain from responding to the resident handful of magat trolls. There is no "discussion" with them. Zero. None. But the back and forth of 'I know you are but what am I' for 10 pages is absurd. You are NEVER going to change their mind and they are NEVER going to change your mind. There is zero reason to engage with them yet a handful of the liberal peas just cannot stop themselves. The back and forth with them is NOT "discussing things with like-minded people". I'm well aware of my posting style/history so take this however you need to. That said, with the exception of a couple weeks ago, I do not engage with these magats and won't. If the other liberal peas did the same, it would probably lead to more "discussion" of a topic and not be so off-putting to others. Just my two cents. That's fine, but if I stay out of it then someone else will engage. There really seems to be no stopping it. I can and do step away from threads where the back and forth bothers me, and I'd encourage others to do the same. There is also - again, being honest - some occasional value in being able to say things to MAGAs that I wouldn't be able to in real life. |
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Feb 20, 2025 16:26:03 GMT
I appreciate your honest post. One thing that can be done is to refrain from responding to the resident handful of magat trolls. There is no "discussion" with them. Zero. None. But the back and forth of 'I know you are but what am I' for 10 pages is absurd. You are NEVER going to change their mind and they are NEVER going to change your mind. There is zero reason to engage with them yet a handful of the liberal peas just cannot stop themselves. The back and forth with them is NOT "discussing things with like-minded people". I'm well aware of my posting style/history so take this however you need to. That said, with the exception of a couple weeks ago, I do not engage with these magats and won't. If the other liberal peas did the same, it would probably lead to more "discussion" of a topic and not be so off-putting to others. Just my two cents. That's fine, but if I stay out of it then someone else will engage. There really seems to be no stopping it. I can and do step away from threads where the back and forth bothers me, and I'd encourage others to do the same. There is also - again, being honest - some occasional value in being able to say things to MAGAs that I wouldn't be able to in real life. The literal definition of a troll/keyboard warrior. |
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Post by purplebee on Feb 20, 2025 16:53:56 GMT
I am a blue dot in a red state. I don’t discuss politics w/Dh very much. I have no like-minded coworkers or nearby friends that I can talk to. Most of my liberal supporters are friends and kin out of state. I actively seek out the political threads here b/c they validate my own beliefs and give me a sense of community. I also read HCR and post on Bluesky. I hope that this board does not change. I find it very easy to scroll past threads that are not of interest to me.
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Post by Merge on Feb 20, 2025 17:12:25 GMT
That's fine, but if I stay out of it then someone else will engage. There really seems to be no stopping it. I can and do step away from threads where the back and forth bothers me, and I'd encourage others to do the same. There is also - again, being honest - some occasional value in being able to say things to MAGAs that I wouldn't be able to in real life. The literal definition of a troll/keyboard warrior. If you say so. I see it as finally being able to speak up for all the people I love who are hurting due to MAGA policies. People can only take so much. Particularly when those who voted for those policies are so dang gleeful about the human suffering they’ve caused. Regardless, those kinds of interactions are likely about 5% of what I post here. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 20, 2025 17:19:06 GMT
I actually came to 2peas for the politics. My mom was active on the original board as a scrapbooker who stayed far away from NSBR when someone was just horrifically mean to her about an innocuous comment. She was mentioning it while I was on bed rest and bored out of my mind. I jumped in and loved the heat and the back and forth and vigorous discussions. I'm sure I went too far sometimes, but in general they were policy discussions, and I spent hours referencing and citing sources. I'm close in age to Chelsea Clinton and was experiencing my own awkward middle school years when the media was so ugly to her, so developed a special hate for people disparaging children of politicians which made some very heated discussions during the Obama presidency.
We're just in a different time now and I stepped back a few years ago, as there was no fun in any of it. It's just fucking ugly out there. During Trump's first presidency, I tried to keep an open mind that our form of government and checks and balances would weather a crappy president as frankly it has in the past. I tried to wade through all the news vs "pseudo news" vs straight up fiction that was becoming more and more prevalent. January 6th changed my view FOREVER. That was a treason. Period full stop. I will never listen to anyone who can support someone who knowingly, actively attempted to overthrow a legal election. It is contrary to every single thing our country stands for. I was dumbfounded that he was elected again. I am disgusted, depressed and have had to take a huge step back from all social media as I can't wrap my head around anyone supporting the utter unconstitutionality of what is going on right now. This isn't policy, this isn't a debate about size of government. This is insanity.
If one takes comfort in talking about it - wonderful. If someone needs to delete their account as it's not working for them - wonderful. I think most of us are just trying desperately to muddle through - at least I am.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Feb 20, 2025 17:30:31 GMT
The literal definition of a troll/keyboard warrior. If you say so. I see it as finally being able to speak up for all the people I love who are hurting due to MAGA policies. People can only take so much. Particularly when those who voted for those policies are so dang gleeful about the human suffering they’ve caused. I look at it the opposite. I have so many people in my life in the various nooks and crannies and I consider it my responsibility to be authentic. I disagree with 90% of what is going on. Most of the people in my daily orbit are either low information Republicans who believe Reagan and Bush (or Romney/Baker… whatever flavor) are still what comprise the Republican Party and will come back. My mother is the saddest stereotype of the older woman who refuses to actually figure out what is going on and has become a shut in with Fox on loop. My daughter works for a Musk company and even here I see old/disinformation regarding it. My daughter and her husband drive a Tesla, etc…. But they are also fierce environmentalists. My work circle is bio-pharmaceutical and I live in Massachusetts. I refuse to temper myself and my beliefs to fit in, nor will I lock myself in an echo chamber. I live that in person, and on this board. I think it is unfortunate to be unwilling to make the effort to say the things in person. But it takes being willing to be seen fully by the people you choose to spend your time around. No one is under the impression that I am an absolutist or perfect, and I certainly don’t spend my time or energy virtue signaling, so I don’t really experience people in my life being surprised that I am fiercely prochoice and unwilling to marginalize or place people in a silo based on social construct. There is nothing I say here that I wouldn’t say to any person in my life. And I think if more people were willing to speak out loud and not code switch for their own convenience, the world would be a less vicious place. |
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 20, 2025 17:39:41 GMT
This type of response is exactly why people leave. This kind of response occurs because of this: January 6th changed my view FOREVER. That was a treason. Period full stop. I will never listen to anyone who can support someone who knowingly, actively attempted to overthrow a legal election. It is contrary to every single thing our country stands for. I was dumbfounded that he was elected again. I am disgusted, depressed and have had to take a huge step back from all social media as I can't wrap my head around anyone supporting the utter unconstitutionality of what is going on right now. This isn't policy, this isn't a debate about size of government. This is insanity. What Darcy said was the God's honest truth. As someone who used to vote Republican it is absolutely gross to me that anyone could support him and then expect that we could all make merry on peas. I don't need to call names (and frankly I believe it's completely unnecessary) but the inability of Trump supporters to not understand the gravity of the situation here blows my mind. And lindas if that means that they choose not to post here, I cannot feel bad for them. What is happening is not normal. It is not right. I can usually find goodness and light wherever I look and with whomever I interact with but not anymore. |
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Post by Merge on Feb 20, 2025 17:43:24 GMT
If you say so. I see it as finally being able to speak up for all the people I love who are hurting due to MAGA policies. People can only take so much. Particularly when those who voted for those policies are so dang gleeful about the human suffering they’ve caused. I look at it the opposite. I have so many people in my life in the various nooks and crannies and I consider it my responsibility to be authentic. I disagree with 90% of what is going on. Most of the people in my daily orbit are either low information Republicans who believe Reagan and Bush (or Romney/Baker… whatever flavor) are still what comprise the Republican Party and will come back. My mother is the saddest stereotype of the older woman who refuses to actually figure out what is going on and has become a shut in with Fox on loop. My daughter works for a Musk company and even here I see old/disinformation regarding it. My daughter and her husband drive a Tesla, etc…. But they are also fierce environmentalists. My work circle is bio-pharmaceutical and I live in Massachusetts. I refuse to temper myself and my beliefs to fit in, nor will I lock myself in an echo chamber. I live that in person, and on this board. I think it is unfortunate to be unwilling to make the effort to say the things in person. But it takes being willing to be seen fully by the people you choose to spend your time around. No one is under the impression that I am an absolutist or perfect, and I certainly don’t spend my time or energy virtue signaling, so I don’t really experience people in my life being surprised that I am fiercely prochoice and unwilling to marginalize or place people in a silo based on social construct. There is nothing I say here that I wouldn’t say to any person in my life. And I think if more people were willing to speak out loud and not code switch for their own convenience, the world would be a less vicious place. The MAGAs here have guns. And I’ve spent the last several years being called a groomer and indoctrinator just for being a public school teacher. Teachers here have lost their jobs for having a book in the classroom that someone considers “woke” or for questioning state-mandated policies. Staying in that profession has been an act of resistance in Texas for a long time. I have a queer child whose safety I also worry about. I am not entirely silent in my personal life. I am circumspect because my children and I are not necessarily safe in our home state. YMMV. |
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2025 18:20:13 GMT
you can't start hardly ANY thread without someone turning it political. Bear in mind that there's also someone who likes to label posts as Political even when they're not. They see a word or phrase that 'could' be political or there's the mere mention of certain name (even when the discussion is NOT political) and stick that label on it which I'm sure puts off some people unnecessarily. |
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Post by hopemax on Feb 20, 2025 18:30:49 GMT
you can't start hardly ANY thread without someone turning it political. Bear in mind that there's also someone who likes to label posts as Political even when they're not. They see a word or phrase that 'could' be political or there's the mere mention of certain name (even when the discussion is NOT political) and stick that label on it which I'm sure puts off some people unnecessarily. It really bothered me how fast JustT's post about her DIL was marked as political. She was asking for real life advice, about a serious situation in her own life, as many peas have done about various subjects. She was asking for community support and advice but because it involved immigration in today's world... political.
When I think about everything coming down the pipe, are they all going to get marked political too? Cancer diagnosis and a mention about being upset there aren't studies like when their parent was diagnosed? If RFK Jr is successful at getting all the drugs banned that he wants to and peas, who have been taking them want to talk it out, will those be shuffled off as political too? |
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Post by pantsonfire on Feb 20, 2025 18:38:53 GMT
you can't start hardly ANY thread without someone turning it political. Bear in mind that there's also someone who likes to label posts as Political even when they're not. They see a word or phrase that 'could' be political or there's the mere mention of certain name (even when the discussion is NOT political) and stick that label on it which I'm sure puts off some people unnecessarily. I don't think she means the label. I have seen it first hand myself. A general thread turns political. And it's the same usual peas who post things related but off topic and turn it political. |
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Post by MichyM on Feb 20, 2025 19:18:11 GMT
Bear in mind that there's also someone who likes to label posts as Political even when they're not. They see a word or phrase that 'could' be political or there's the mere mention of certain name (even when the discussion is NOT political) and stick that label on it which I'm sure puts off some people unnecessarily. It really bothered me how fast JustT's post about her DIL was marked as political. She was asking for real life advice, about a serious situation in her own life, as many peas have done about various subjects. She was asking for community support and advice but because it involved immigration in today's world... political.
When I think about everything coming down the pipe, are they all going to get marked political too? Cancer diagnosis and a mention about being upset there aren't studies like when their parent was diagnosed? If RFK Jr is successful at getting all the drugs banned that he wants to and peas, who have been taking them want to talk it out, will those be shuffled off as political too? THIS ^^^ For me it's not just threads marked political, it is also about the folks (from either side) who cannot stop themselves from TURNING an innocuous thread political. It's usually one of about a half-dozen peas. We all see it happen frequently. If you (a general you) feel the need to make a political response in a non-political thread, for the love of everything, please, just start a SO thread. I've had a thread or two of mine go off the rails, and it is frustrating. *** I wish certain peas could show some self-control and start ONE daily political thread instead of numerous threads daily *** As to the rest of this. We all come to peas for different purposes and this thread has been enlightening to me about why some Peas' engagement is heavily political, and others, not so much. I am truly sorry for those who don't have people IRL to discuss these things with. Right now, 95% of conversations I have with friends and family always (at the very least) touch on what's going on politically. ETA: I am very sorry that peasapie left, and I hope she is reading this and knows that we will miss her! |
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Post by gar on Feb 20, 2025 19:29:30 GMT
Bear in mind that there's also someone who likes to label posts as Political even when they're not. They see a word or phrase that 'could' be political or there's the mere mention of certain name (even when the discussion is NOT political) and stick that label on it which I'm sure puts off some people unnecessarily. I don't think she means the label. I have seen it first hand myself. A general thread turns political. And it's the same usual peas who post things related but off topic and turn it political. Hence I said 'also' - I guessed that was what she meant but I was making a relevant point while we're talking about politics being off-putting for some. |
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 20, 2025 19:51:54 GMT
This type of response is exactly why people leave. This kind of response occurs because of this: January 6th changed my view FOREVER. That was a treason. Period full stop. I will never listen to anyone who can support someone who knowingly, actively attempted to overthrow a legal election. It is contrary to every single thing our country stands for. I was dumbfounded that he was elected again. I am disgusted, depressed and have had to take a huge step back from all social media as I can't wrap my head around anyone supporting the utter unconstitutionality of what is going on right now. This isn't policy, this isn't a debate about size of government. This is insanity. What Darcy said was the God's honest truth. As someone who used to vote Republican it is absolutely gross to me that anyone could support him and then expect that we could all make merry on peas. I don't need to call names (and frankly I believe it's completely unnecessary) but the inability of Trump supporters to not understand the gravity of the situation here blows my mind. And lindas if that means that they choose not to post here, I cannot feel bad for them. What is happening is not normal. It is not right. I can usually find goodness and light wherever I look and with whomever I interact with but not anymore. One of the things I have appreciated both here and in my former parenting-board community is hearing a number of women who I know are moderate Republicans or even conservative Republicans say absolutely not to voting for or supporting Trump. It makes me feel less gaslit. |
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Post by peano on Feb 20, 2025 20:17:55 GMT
Pretty sure a lot of people would leave because it seems if you voted for Trump there are only extremely nasty and hate filled things said to you---it is though people do not have the right to support whoever they want to. I never say such horrible things said to people as were said to those that are Trump supporters. If people leave, it is probably because they do not wish to be verbally abused for their right to choose for themselves. Dude, you do have the right to support whoever you want to. But you have to be ready to accept the consequences. Nazi sympathizers in WWII had the right to support them, but had to accept the consequences. I don't know about you, but I want to be able to live in my skin, knowing I didn't support an amoral, cruel and corrupt regime that was responsible for demolishing our democracy. |
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Post by hopemax on Feb 20, 2025 20:34:44 GMT
It really bothered me how fast JustT's post about her DIL was marked as political. She was asking for real life advice, about a serious situation in her own life, as many peas have done about various subjects. She was asking for community support and advice but because it involved immigration in today's world... political.
When I think about everything coming down the pipe, are they all going to get marked political too? Cancer diagnosis and a mention about being upset there aren't studies like when their parent was diagnosed? If RFK Jr is successful at getting all the drugs banned that he wants to and peas, who have been taking them want to talk it out, will those be shuffled off as political too? THIS ^^^ For me it's not just threads marked political, it is also about the folks (from either side) who cannot stop themselves from TURNING an innocuous thread political. It's usually one of about a half-dozen peas. We all see it happen frequently. If you (a general you) feel the need to make a political response in a non-political thread, for the love of everything, please, just start a SO thread. I've had a thread or two of mine go off the rails, and it is frustrating. *** I wish certain peas could show some self-control and start ONE daily political thread instead of numerous threads daily *** As to the rest of this. We all come to peas for different purposes and this thread has been enlightening to me about why some Peas' engagement is heavily political, and others, not so much. I am truly sorry for those who don't have people IRL to discuss these things with. Right now, 95% of conversations I have with friends and family always (at the very least) touch on what's going on politically. ETA: I am very sorry that peasapie left, and I hope she is reading this and knows that we will miss her! I think you've gone a different direction with my post then I intended. And unfortunately this is as Merge mentioned earlier, hurtful. I've tried a couple times to figure out how to get my thoughts down, without offending anyone.. and I can't. Several of these posts have the effect of "We don't want your kind here." Or if you have to be here, can't you just be more quiet about it. No. There is serious stuff going down, and we shouldn't try to shove it into limited threads, or a separate board because, like in the rest of the world, some people can't simply "not be X,Y or Z," but not even being able to tolerate seeing X,Y, Z.
Political peas aren't trying to exclude non-political posts. Post away, be the change you want! But it's not enough, is it? "Political peas have to be different," is the solution. If non-political posts aren't getting the engagement people want, that isn't the responsibility of political peas to fix. I've participated in non-political posts, but being childless or having a job outside the home, limits which other types of threads I can participate in, because I don't have the experience or qualifications to do so. Peas have moved on due to life changes, health changes, interest changes, etc. There are a multitude of reasons why something doesn't get engagement, and blaming it on political posts is really crappy.
But this is why I don't have adult friends in real life. Because whenever discussions start, I'm the weird one who knows too much about something, cares too much about serious stuff and not enough about innocuous stuff, doesn't interact with the stuff they do, etc. It may not be what people *intend* but the result is making people who are wired the way I am feel bad and wrong. Being perceptive - wrong. Being engaged - wrong. Being knowledgeable - wrong. Do you know how many times growing up, I wished to "just not be smart," and be like the other kids who cared more about entertainment or fashion than history or science? But I'm not given space to feel who I am are truly positive personal attributes... it's usually centered so that "normal" people don't have to feel uncomfortable about their lack of interest, perception or understanding. I'm supposed to understand others instead of vice versa. As an adult, it's the same... don't make others feel bad by being who you are, or participating in things you enjoy. "If you have to... can you just do it over there, while everyone else plays in the main space?"
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Feb 20, 2025 20:46:06 GMT
hopemax- hugs. I totally get what you're saying... I was the weird 'smart' kid who liked to read the dictionary and encyclopedia for fun, lol. I don't cook, meal plan, like wearing makeup or picking out clothes, and my crafty obsession right now is deep diving into antique needlework and cross stitch samplers. No kids, just Shelties and cats. And I currently live in the rural-ish outskirts of St Louis, where I can still see 'don't tread on me' bumper stickers and a Confederate flag sometimes. Nowadays, I feel like I'm a character in the movie the Matrix, where *I* can see what's going on in the real world, but everyone around me is still stuck in the 'fake' world, and they don't want to wake up. My DH is one of those "Republicans are still the party of Reagan" people, so I can't talk about any of this to him. ha. Unless we want to get into a huge fight. I come here to get validation that I'm not crazy, basically, and to make sure there really ARE other people who think like me.
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Post by pantsonfire on Feb 20, 2025 20:47:57 GMT
It really bothered me how fast JustT's post about her DIL was marked as political. She was asking for real life advice, about a serious situation in her own life, as many peas have done about various subjects. She was asking for community support and advice but because it involved immigration in today's world... political.
When I think about everything coming down the pipe, are they all going to get marked political too? Cancer diagnosis and a mention about being upset there aren't studies like when their parent was diagnosed? If RFK Jr is successful at getting all the drugs banned that he wants to and peas, who have been taking them want to talk it out, will those be shuffled off as political too?
For me it's not just threads marked political, it is also about the folks (from either side) who cannot stop themselves from TURNING an innocuous thread political. It's usually one of about a half-dozen peas. We all see it happen frequently.
If you (a general you) feel the need to make a political response in a non-political thread, for the love of everything, please, just start a SO thread. I've had a thread or two of mine go off the rails, and it is frustrating.*** I wish certain peas could show some self-control and start ONE daily political thread instead of numerous threads daily *** As to the rest of this. We all come to peas for different purposes and this thread has been enlightening to me about why some Peas' engagement is heavily political, and others, not so much. I am truly sorry for those who don't have people IRL to discuss these things with. Right now, 95% of conversations I have with friends and family always (at the very least) touch on what's going on politically. ETA: I am very sorry that peasapie left, and I hope she is reading this and knows that we will miss her! You said exactly what I feel/think. This is what I mean by constant burrage of politics. No thread is safe. No topic is safe. |
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Post by MichyM on Feb 20, 2025 20:52:17 GMT
hopemax , I am deeply sorry. I did not intend to be hurtful/cause hurt feelings to anyone, and I apologize for wording my reply above poorly. When sharing my thoughts here, I try to be careful not to force my opinions onto others. This one was a fail for me. I hope you can forgive me.
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Post by pilcas on Feb 20, 2025 21:16:51 GMT
I get that we sometimes want to disengage because it truly is overwhelming. At the same time all that is happening now will change all of our lives for the worse and it’s almost as if those who are not interested in the political threads are just sticking their heads under the sand.Yes, lots of political threads because everyday something else is happening. Every morning I have breakfast and start reading the news in an effort to find out what did Trump and Musk do now. I also appreciate that this is a real community on not one of those where fake accounts post all sorts of things. I do read and participate because these things are important to me and my life and that of my kids. So many things have changed in exactly a month and this is just the beginning.
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Post by hopemax on Feb 20, 2025 21:17:44 GMT
hopemax , I am deeply sorry. I did not intend to be hurtful/cause hurt feelings to anyone, and I apologize for wording my reply above poorly. When sharing my thoughts here, I try to be careful not to force my opinions onto others. This one was a fail for you. I hope you can forgive me. Again, I know most of the time people don't *intend* to cause hurt.
However, the result ends up in a predictable place. I'm supposed to extend grace and understanding for other people's circumstances, that is often not returned in kind.
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Post by Merge on Feb 20, 2025 21:37:35 GMT
hopemax- hugs. I totally get what you're saying... I was the weird 'smart' kid who liked to read the dictionary and encyclopedia for fun, lol. I don't cook, meal plan, like wearing makeup or picking out clothes, and my crafty obsession right now is deep diving into antique needlework and cross stitch samplers. No kids, just Shelties and cats. And I currently live in the rural-ish outskirts of St Louis, where I can still see 'don't tread on me' bumper stickers and a Confederate flag sometimes. Nowadays, I feel like I'm a character in the movie the Matrix, where *I* can see what's going on in the real world, but everyone around me is still stuck in the 'fake' world, and they don't want to wake up. My DH is one of those "Republicans are still the party of Reagan" people, so I can't talk about any of this to him. ha. Unless we want to get into a huge fight. I come here to get validation that I'm not crazy, basically, and to make sure there really ARE other people who think like me. Where do you live? We should hang out.  ETA: meant that for hopemax because she’s newer to the board, but really for any of us who always feel like “too much.” It’s exhausting. |
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Post by hopemax on Feb 20, 2025 22:00:22 GMT
Both of you just need to move to Denver. It's not far from either St. Louis or Texas. There are other peas around here too, based on posts.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 20, 2025 22:05:23 GMT
hopemax said: But this is why I don't have adult friends in real life. Because whenever discussions start, I'm the weird one who knows too much about something, cares too much about serious stuff and not enough about innocuous stuff, doesn't interact with the stuff they do, etc. It may not be what people *intend* but the result is making people who are wired the way I am feel bad and wrong. Being perceptive - wrong. Being engaged - wrong. Being knowledgeable - wrong. Do you know how many times growing up, I wished to "just not be smart," and be like the other kids who cared more about entertainment or fashion than history or science? But I'm not given space to feel who I am are truly positive personal attributes... it's usually centered so that "normal" people don't have to feel uncomfortable about their lack of interest, perception or understanding. I'm supposed to understand others instead of vice versa. As an adult, it's the same... don't make others feel bad by being who you are, or participating in things you enjoy. "If you have to... can you just do it over there, while everyone else plays in the main space?" I have never felt words so deeply at any other time on this board. ❤️ I am different and I feel it in real life acutely. I have been shamed for it by my whole family my entire life. I often feel separate from the peas and it's even on threads that seem innocuous. And it doesn't matter how strong of a person you are or how comfortable you may be with yourself, it hurts to feel excluded or like you just don't fit in. And I'm tolerating it less and less as I get older.
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Post by BSnyder on Feb 20, 2025 22:17:41 GMT
I think you've gone a different direction with my post then I intended. And unfortunately this is as Merge mentioned earlier, hurtful. I've tried a couple times to figure out how to get my thoughts down, without offending anyone.. and I can't. Several of these posts have the effect of "We don't want your kind here." Or if you have to be here, can't you just be more quiet about it. No. There is serious stuff going down, and we shouldn't try to shove it into limited threads, or a separate board because, like in the rest of the world, some people can't simply "not be X,Y or Z," but not even being able to tolerate seeing X,Y, Z.
Political peas aren't trying to exclude non-political posts. Post away, be the change you want! But it's not enough, is it? "Political peas have to be different," is the solution. If non-political posts aren't getting the engagement people want, that isn't the responsibility of political peas to fix. I've participated in non-political posts, but being childless or having a job outside the home, limits which other types of threads I can participate in, because I don't have the experience or qualifications to do so. Peas have moved on due to life changes, health changes, interest changes, etc. There are a multitude of reasons why something doesn't get engagement, and blaming it on political posts is really crappy.
But this is why I don't have adult friends in real life. Because whenever discussions start, I'm the weird one who knows too much about something, cares too much about serious stuff and not enough about innocuous stuff, doesn't interact with the stuff they do, etc. It may not be what people *intend* but the result is making people who are wired the way I am feel bad and wrong. Being perceptive - wrong. Being engaged - wrong. Being knowledgeable - wrong. Do you know how many times growing up, I wished to "just not be smart," and be like the other kids who cared more about entertainment or fashion than history or science? But I'm not given space to feel who I am are truly positive personal attributes... it's usually centered so that "normal" people don't have to feel uncomfortable about their lack of interest, perception or understanding. I'm supposed to understand others instead of vice versa. As an adult, it's the same... don't make others feel bad by being who you are, or participating in things you enjoy. "If you have to... can you just do it over there, while everyone else plays in the main space?"
Bravo! Please make room on your bench for me. I am happy to be your overinformed, pop-culture illiterate friend. Maybe we wouldn't be in this space if "entertainment" were valued less and more people weren't trying to stay away from politics. Seems how policitics drives how we live our lives, I find a lot of entitlement and privilege in people that "can choose" to not participate, to not know what is really going on, and can't understand why others need to connect over it. If you are care about about prices, healthcare, education, safety, small business, roads, weather, farming, religion, the list goes on and on, you care about policitics. These things most likely effect you, but if you are lucky enought that they don't, it certainly affects your neighbor, your community, and the world and affected people shouldn't be expected to just stew in it. Some people aren't in a situation that they can just hide from how these things are turning thier lives upside down. I don't cook, so I whiz on by the cooking threads and medical threads make me sure I now have that affliction so I speed on by... Just sayin'... |
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