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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 20, 2025 16:44:33 GMT
My MIL lives in NYC and we live in Minnesota. DH is an only child. He has a stepdad who has had several strokes, is mostly homebound and MIL and a home health nurse are his caretakers. MIL's mom had Alzheimer's and her sister apparently does as well. We are a getting concerned with MIL and her memory. She was here almost two years ago and there were concerns, but at times it seems like she just keeps bringing up the same request in order to get a different response. Other times she truly seems like she doesn't remember parts of conversations. For example, I talked to her the other day during DS's baseball game. She repeated the same statement several times (which isn't all that strange for her conversation style, but a little off, IMO) and then asked who they play next and where. I told her this and then less than a minute later she asked the same thing again. Was she just not paying attention or is this her memory? A few months ago I suggested getting the phone number of her friend so if we had concerns we could call, and for her to give the friend our number as well. She did that (on our end for sure, I hope she gave the friend our number as well). But I am wondering what else we should do now in order to not be scrambling if things get significantly worse?
DH wants her to move here at some point, but right now I don't think that would go over well. She has a lot of friends in NYC that she has known forever and is close to them. Moving here would be quite a shock.
If you had parents that lived far away, how did you manage health issues with them from afar?
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Post by Merge on Feb 20, 2025 16:48:32 GMT
We have a similar situation with MIL in rural Montana. Could you have a chat with a couple of her friends and make sure they have your number in case they notice anything really alarming? That’s one thing we did and it’s given us some peace of mind. She also has a watch that will automatically call 911 and dispatch EMTs if it senses a fall (and she doesn’t deactivate the alarm) - because she is very much a fall risk.
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 20, 2025 16:54:27 GMT
I would get her tested to see if she does have Alzheimer’s- if so, there are some medications she can take to slow the progression. Based on her family history, she may not be a candidate for the newer class dugs as she might have the gene, but drugs like Donepezil may be helpful.
Work on anything that can create a sense of routine for her - and have stuff in writing posted around the house.
Definitely reach out to her friends and her husband's caretaker to alert you with concerns.
Get the Tile app on both your phone and hers - put tiles on everything (remotes, keys, wallets, purses, etc). It will help you locate missing items (or at least narrow down the location).
Get the Healthcare surrogate and durable power of attorney now.
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 20, 2025 16:55:57 GMT
Also, since you are in MN, look into the HABIT program at Mayo - although it may be difficult as she doesn't really have a "caregiver" for herself. If you do wind up moving her to MN, better to do it earlier than later, so she can get a new routine established.
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 20, 2025 16:59:38 GMT
Finally, for your husband's stepdad - does he have kids of his own? If so, you may want to reach out to them to see about having them get Healthcare surrogate and durable power of attorney for him, as your MIL may not be able to make those decisions for him someday. I don't know if other people can be backups in those situations (for example, if MIL is not capable to make designs, person X is authorized to do so).
Also, is there a way to monitor her financial information? She may be forgetting to pay bills or racking up debt due to impairment.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 20, 2025 17:01:50 GMT
I would get her tested to see if she does have Alzheimer’s- if so, there are some medications she can take to slow the progression. Based on her family history, she may not be a candidate for the newer class dugs as she might have the gene, but drugs like Donepezil may be helpful. Work on anything that can create a sense of routine for her - and have stuff in writing posted around the house. Definitely reach out to her friends and her husband's caretaker to alert you with concerns. Get the Tile app on both your phone and hers - put tiles on everything (remotes, keys, wallets, purses, etc). It will help you locate missing items (or at least narrow down the location). Get the Healthcare surrogate and durable power of attorney now. She seems to function pretty well in daily life, although a few months ago she lost the extra key fob to her car and sometimes when I talked to her she tried to blame it on the caretaker stealing it. Other times she said that she "knew she put it somewhere." Again, a little concerning although I do this as well.  It's really just the repeating of things that is the concern right now. But next time I talk to her I will ask if she has brought up any type of testing with her doctor, due to the family history.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 20, 2025 17:14:44 GMT
I hadn't even thought about their finances or FIL's care. I just assumed that he would die before her health worsened to the point of huge concern. Ugh.
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Post by voltagain on Feb 20, 2025 17:16:24 GMT
My MIL lives in NYC and we live in Minnesota. DH is an only child. He has a stepdad who has had several strokes, is mostly homebound and MIL and a home health nurse are his caretakers. MIL's mom had Alzheimer's and her sister apparently does as well. We are a getting concerned with MIL and her memory. She was here almost two years ago and there were concerns, but at times it seems like she just keeps bringing up the same request in order to get a different response. Other times she truly seems like she doesn't remember parts of conversations. For example, I talked to her the other day during DS's baseball game. She repeated the same statement several times (which isn't all that strange for her conversation style, but a little off, IMO) and then asked who they play next and where. I told her this and then less than a minute later she asked the same thing again. Was she just not paying attention or is this her memory? A few months ago I suggested getting the phone number of her friend so if we had concerns we could call, and for her to give the friend our number as well. She did that (on our end for sure, I hope she gave the friend our number as well). But I am wondering what else we should do now in order to not be scrambling if things get significantly worse? DH wants her to move here at some point, but right now I don't think that would go over well. She has a lot of friends in NYC that she has known forever and is close to them. Moving here would be quite a shock. If you had parents that lived far away, how did you manage health issues with them from afar? My mom has vascular dementia. My sister moved her into assisted living in August. Mom is still in the same city she has been in for most of her life but it still did NOT go well. Don't make your decision to move her based on it going well. Expecting her friends to look after her isn't a good idea IMO simply because you don't know if they are truly capable of recognizing her need for help. They very well could be in early or mid stages of their own dementia journey or other physical decline. As her mental/physical health declines any other friends are going to ghost her and you won't be aware. Your FIL home health aid is your best resource for information. The best time to have moved her was 5-10 years ago. Her repeated questions are very much a common dementia symptom not seeking a different answer. Things to do now is start researching care options where you are and getting her and FIL on waiting lists if needed. Find out what paperwork they will require like a power of attorney. Getting dh and yourself mentally prepared this is not going to be easy. Mom's assisted living facility allows for residents to have a live in companion. This would allow FIL and MIL to continue living together unless there are step siblings who don't want him moved. My sister lives in the facility with my mom as her companion/caregiver. She often wants to go home but where home is changes. Sometimes it is her childhood home, or the home she lived in as a teen, or the house she and dad lived in the early years of their marriage, or the house my sister and I grew up in, or the house they bought when dad retired (which we have not sold so my sister can take her there for an afternoon visit)
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 20, 2025 17:17:16 GMT
I would get her tested to see if she does have Alzheimer’s- if so, there are some medications she can take to slow the progression. Based on her family history, she may not be a candidate for the newer class dugs as she might have the gene, but drugs like Donepezil may be helpful. Work on anything that can create a sense of routine for her - and have stuff in writing posted around the house. Definitely reach out to her friends and her husband's caretaker to alert you with concerns. Get the Tile app on both your phone and hers - put tiles on everything (remotes, keys, wallets, purses, etc). It will help you locate missing items (or at least narrow down the location). Get the Healthcare surrogate and durable power of attorney now. She seems to function pretty well in daily life, although a few months ago she lost the extra key fob to her car and sometimes when I talked to her she tried to blame it on the caretaker stealing it. Other times she said that she "knew she put it somewhere." Again, a little concerning although I do this as well.  It's really just the repeating of things that is the concern right now. But next time I talk to her I will ask if she has brought up any type of testing with her doctor, due to the family history. Definitely push for it. For my mom, I first noticed that she would ask me the same question repeatedly while we were on the phone (probably 2019ish). I asked her once about it, and she said she couldn't remember asking me the question. At the time, she was on a medication for trigeminal neuralgia that had memory problems as a known side effect. She worked with her doctors at Mayo to get taken off the medicine, but I didn't realize it, and she wasn't getting better. I went with her to Mayo in December 2021, and asked her neurologist about the medication, and he said she had been off of it for a while. He then did a 5 minute assessment in the office, and that's when he made the referral for the 4 hour psychological evaluation. She had that done in spring 2022, and they said they suspected Alzheimer’s at that point. She had the 4 hour testing done again in December 2023 as part of the protocol for the new drugs, and she did much worse. That, combined with her cancer history and her genetics (she has one copy of the gene), means she's not a candidate for the newer meds. She has declined to the point where I don't feel comfortable leaving her alone all day to go to a regular job. I struggle enough with leaving her to go wait tables at night, and I leave about 3:40 and get home anywhere between 9:30 to 11:00 p.m. She's usually asleep by the time I get home. I've been getting worried about my dad, but he's being much more resistant to testing. At one point, he said he forgot to get tested when he went for his physical, another time he said the screening came back fine. I couched it as trying to get a baseline, especially since his mother had dementia. I still am worried about him, and I'm trying to get my brothers to push him about it. I don't know that I have it in me to take care of 2 parents with Alzheimer’s and/or dementia.
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 20, 2025 17:19:49 GMT
I hadn't even thought about their finances or FIL's care. I just assumed that he would die before her health worsened to the point of huge concern. Ugh. I'm sorry, I know it's a lot to take in. If you are close to Mayo, I know they have resources available to help you during this process.
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 20, 2025 17:19:58 GMT
I am so sorry. It is really hard to manage care for aging parents from a distance (it is also no picnic managing it locally, but distance adds Olympic levels of difficulty). Honestly one of the things that has saved my sanity has been the community of women here who have dealt with similar issues.
I don’t really personally have advice, unfortunately—dh’s mother has dementia and we’re lucky that at least my FIL is healthy. But the Peas are so helpful on this.
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Post by Linda on Feb 20, 2025 17:36:58 GMT
(((Hugs))) and prayers.
I would definitely push to have her evaluated for dementia - the repeated questions as well as the blaming the caregiver are red flags to me. You can contact her doctor and ask for an evaluation even without medical POA - they can't give YOU information but they can take information from you. I know my mum was incredibly resistant to any POAs but she was willing to put my sister down as a contact at her doctors which gave the doctor permission to talk to my sister about mum's health -I believe my sister asked the doctor to bring that up as mum was much more likely to listen to the doctor than to us AND the doctor was prepared with a form there and then to have mum sign before she forgot or changed her mind.
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Post by bethany102399 on Feb 20, 2025 17:54:17 GMT
I agree caring for an aging parent is no picnic, and having to do it long distance makes things much harder. Certainly make sure you have numbers for people local there and vice versa.
I have a friend whose mother didn't show up for a holiday breakfast with her girlfriends. They became concerned, called her daughter (my friend). when her daughter couldn't reach her, she was able to go to her house and found her mom on the floor having had a massive stroke. The Mom was able to make a recovery, but if the friends hadn't had daughter's number and reached out it would have been a very different ending.
Even if people are not in a place to provide care, sharing contact information can be a huge help.
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Post by Tearisci on Feb 20, 2025 18:17:34 GMT
I don't have any advice, I just want to say that I'm sorry you are dealing with this. When all of our family ended up in Dallas and my parents were in WA state, we moved them down here to be close to us. I think that they are now happy with the decision but they miss their friends and not having a car has been hard.
I hope you can get some good advice from our all-knowing peas!
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Post by voltagain on Feb 20, 2025 18:29:36 GMT
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Post by scrappinmama on Feb 20, 2025 21:10:27 GMT
I live about 1,000 miles away from my mom. She's 95 and we finally had to put her in assisted living last year. My sister does live 10 minutes from my mom, but I help out with the things that I'm able to. I handle banking, for example. When my mom lived on her own, I handled grocery orders and having takeout delivered on the weekends. But my sister took her to all appointments. Sometimes we paid her caregiver aid to take my mom to appointments.
Things are a lot easier wither her in assisted living, but it's never going to be completely easy. The best thing would be to move your mother in law closer to you. She's only going to need more help.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 21, 2025 0:55:21 GMT
Someone suggested to look into moving mom and her DH closer to OP. Where is his family? You will need to take that into consideration too.
You are on a difficult path...
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Feb 21, 2025 1:19:21 GMT
I feel for you.
My parents live far away (10 hour drive on a good day.)
I worry about my dad’s physical health and mom’s mental health and what I am sad to believe is likely the beginnings of some form of dementia. She definitely has severe depression (decades- but she refuses to seek treatment.)
Everything I’ve offered to do, she refuses. I’ve bought and set up watches because she falls and it breaks my heart the way that she gets back up. But she refuses to wear it, and I know one day her “method” isn’t going to work.
I wanted to send a person every other week (I think once a week is more appropriate now) to do laundry and cleaning and they refuse to have anyone in their house. Their washer and dryer is in the basement and the only bathroom is on the second floor. I can’t do anything about the bathroom, but I would really prefer she not go down the basement stairs. She can’t carry a basket of clothes up and down. But she’s come up with the “brilliant idea” to TIE a laundry bag to her waist and put the clothes in it- and drag it up and down the stairs. There is a crumbling foundation wall on one side, and no railing or anything on the other side. What can go wrong? I tried to pay to have a railing installed. Couldn’t be done on foundation side. And to install one on the other side, I couldn’t get a licensed contractor to agree to do it, for less than 20k (includes serious digging and laying of concrete on dirt floor to anchor it… ) with the potential to get much more expensive if something goes wrong. Made sense to pay a teen to go spend a couple hours a week. But nope.
Eventually they won’t have a choice but to leave their house and go into assisted living/senior apartment. But my mom says no way. She will be carted out of that house one day. It makes me sad that it will likely be sooner rather than later because she is stubborn. I think she’s perfectly able to make the decision today (even though I disagree) so I doubt I will fight her on it later and force her.
But I don’t know. I’m sorry you’re entering that era. There’s some really good advice in this thread. I didn’t even consider the complication of a blended family. I also didn’t know that companion/caregiver adult children could live in some of these facilities. Best of luck and safety to you.
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Post by voltagain on Feb 21, 2025 14:46:44 GMT
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 21, 2025 15:17:17 GMT
Since she is still quite rooted to her community, I would work on suggesting a move to an assisted living setup in her current area where she is still able to get out and about with friends while also getting more ongoing help for her DH. This way she still has the independence she wants now but is in a better position if/when either of them needs more help with whatever going forward. It would be easier to move her/them closer to you later on if they downsize their household now while she’s more able to make decisions.
As for counting on friends to step up, I wouldn’t count on that. We dealt with this some when our elderly lake neighbor was staying with us. She is in a similar situation where she really relies on several friends back home to help her with certain things due to her mobility issues. When she was laid up in the hospital, DH was in contact with her friends at home to do things like make sure her important mail could be collected and forwarded to her here, checking on her place, etc. Some of his conversations with them were eye opening for us. It quickly became apparent that a few of these people that she thought were her ride or dies really aren’t based on some of the snarky or disparaging comments they made to DH about being “stuck” helping her. 😕
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Post by scrapngranny on Feb 21, 2025 16:09:00 GMT
My dad began to have a lot of health issues at 84, he lived close to a friend, who tried to keep an eye on him. My mom had died several years earlier and I’m an only child. He lived in Arizona and I lived in California. Finally, it came down to him having to move to California. We had a farm and were able to buy him a 2 bedroom mobile home and put right next to our house. At that time he could still drive, so he had all his freedoms, but I could do doctor appointments and keep my eyes on him. When he could no longer drive, I took him anywhere he wanted to go. Eventually, he could no longer walk and he moved into a full time care facility.
It was a struggle for both of us, but one day at a time we worked it out. By moving to my house he had time with family he didn’t have in Arizona. My 3 kids and grandkids all lived close by, which he loved.
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Post by craftymom101 on Feb 21, 2025 18:46:12 GMT
My MIL lives in NYC and we live in Minnesota. DH is an only child. He has a stepdad who has had several strokes, is mostly homebound and MIL and a home health nurse are his caretakers. MIL's mom had Alzheimer's and her sister apparently does as well. We are a getting concerned with MIL and her memory. She was here almost two years ago and there were concerns, but at times it seems like she just keeps bringing up the same request in order to get a different response. Other times she truly seems like she doesn't remember parts of conversations. For example, I talked to her the other day during DS's baseball game. She repeated the same statement several times (which isn't all that strange for her conversation style, but a little off, IMO) and then asked who they play next and where. I told her this and then less than a minute later she asked the same thing again. Was she just not paying attention or is this her memory? A few months ago I suggested getting the phone number of her friend so if we had concerns we could call, and for her to give the friend our number as well. She did that (on our end for sure, I hope she gave the friend our number as well). But I am wondering what else we should do now in order to not be scrambling if things get significantly worse? DH wants her to move here at some point, but right now I don't think that would go over well. She has a lot of friends in NYC that she has known forever and is close to them. Moving here would be quite a shock. If you had parents that lived far away, how did you manage health issues with them from afar? I haven't read all the responses yet, but I wanted to comment on your statement that "she has a lot of friends in NYC that she has known forever and is close to them". My grandmother lived in the same town (in the same home) for close to 40 years when she was diagnosed with dementia. Her three children opted to move her to an assisted living facility in that town, while they all live between a 5-hour car ride and a 3-hour plane ride away, so she could be closer to her friends. Almost immediately after she moved, her friends stopped visiting. Every time she had a health scare, one of the kids had to drive and/or fly to see her, taking time off work. She had very few visitors and having her so far away was extremely stressful for everyone. After four or five years, her daughter moved her to a care facility in CA and the situation improved dramatically. Family was a 10-minute drive away, health issues were handled immediately, and everyone was less stressed. Friends aren't family, and aging friends will have their own mobility and transportation issues, or pass away, leaving no one to be there for your MIL. A health scare can take days or weeks to resolve and require immediate attention, which is hard to balance when she is several states away. This is my perspective, and I understand it's not the right move for everyone, but in my experience, family is who steps up to care for the elderly, not friends.
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Post by scrappinmama on Feb 21, 2025 19:27:24 GMT
My MIL lives in NYC and we live in Minnesota. DH is an only child. He has a stepdad who has had several strokes, is mostly homebound and MIL and a home health nurse are his caretakers. MIL's mom had Alzheimer's and her sister apparently does as well. We are a getting concerned with MIL and her memory. She was here almost two years ago and there were concerns, but at times it seems like she just keeps bringing up the same request in order to get a different response. Other times she truly seems like she doesn't remember parts of conversations. For example, I talked to her the other day during DS's baseball game. She repeated the same statement several times (which isn't all that strange for her conversation style, but a little off, IMO) and then asked who they play next and where. I told her this and then less than a minute later she asked the same thing again. Was she just not paying attention or is this her memory? A few months ago I suggested getting the phone number of her friend so if we had concerns we could call, and for her to give the friend our number as well. She did that (on our end for sure, I hope she gave the friend our number as well). But I am wondering what else we should do now in order to not be scrambling if things get significantly worse? DH wants her to move here at some point, but right now I don't think that would go over well. She has a lot of friends in NYC that she has known forever and is close to them. Moving here would be quite a shock. If you had parents that lived far away, how did you manage health issues with them from afar? I haven't read all the responses yet, but I wanted to comment on your statement that "she has a lot of friends in NYC that she has known forever and is close to them". My grandmother lived in the same town (in the same home) for close to 40 years when she was diagnosed with dementia. Her three children opted to move her to an assisted living facility in that town, while they all live between a 5-hour car ride and a 3-hour plane ride away, so she could be closer to her friends. Almost immediately after she moved, her friends stopped visiting. Every time she had a health scare, one of the kids had to drive and/or fly to see her, taking time off work. She had very few visitors and having her so far away was extremely stressful for everyone. After four or five years, her daughter moved her to a care facility in CA and the situation improved dramatically. Family was a 10-minute drive away, health issues were handled immediately, and everyone was less stressed. Friends aren't family, and aging friends will have their own mobility and transportation issues, or pass away, leaving no one to be there for your MIL. A health scare can take days or weeks to resolve and require immediate attention, which is hard to balance when she is several states away. This is my perspective, and I understand it's not the right move for everyone, but in my experience, family is who steps up to care for the elderly, not friends. I agree with this. My mom has some younger friends that visit her, but as they have aged that has really slowed down. It really is best to have a family member close by. My sister checks in on my mom every weekend and often stops by during the week. You really do need to keep an eye and make sure the staff are providing the proper care. They are often short staffed and it's easy for the elderly to be ignored. Like it or not, the family who keeps a closer eye keeps the staff on their toes and they are more likely to do their jobs.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 21, 2025 19:29:45 GMT
The link says it is broken.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 21, 2025 19:32:09 GMT
I don't necessarily think that her friends should have to take care of her, but I brought that up in saying that she isn't ready to move yet. I do agree that at some point she will likely need to be closer to us. She is only 69 but hopefully things don't worsen sooner rather than later.
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Post by voltagain on Feb 21, 2025 20:05:28 GMT
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Post by mikklynn on Feb 22, 2025 15:56:12 GMT
I don't necessarily think that her friends should have to take care of her, but I brought that up in saying that she isn't ready to move yet. I do agree that at some point she will likely need to be closer to us. She is only 69 but hopefully things don't worsen sooner rather than later. If you are seeing signs of dementia at 69, your DH needs to go to the doctor with her. He should bring a list of everything that has caused concern. It could be a medication issue or another medical issue. I was expecting you to indicate she was much older.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 23, 2025 3:16:46 GMT
Concerning "friends who can take care of her" Several years ago I was in such a situation. My very dear friend and her husband did not want to move across the country to be near his daughter. She hinted could I be their "younger person in charge?"
I really wanted to do this but then realised I might be the person to say, "discontinue treatment. " I don't want that responsibility for my relatives, let alone non relatives. Don't try to put this burden on a friend.
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