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Federal Motor Carrier requires English..

MAGA fans are rejoicing on social media in favor of President Donald Trump's plan to sign an executive order requiring commercial truck drivers to speak English.

Breitbart News reported that Trump would sign the order Monday evening because "President Trump believes that English is a non-negotiable safety requirement for professional drivers." Last month, Trump designated English as "the official language of the United States."
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The DOT Physical drivers are supposed to get every 2 years requires that they can READ English. This has been a topic of conversation in the walk-in clinic where I work," wrote Pam Harris.

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For standard DL (last count Feb-Apr 2016).. check many red States only English, although Iowa and Kentucky have many languages...West Virginia is funny..

Fact Sheets: Languages Used for Driver’s License Exams (as of Feb-Apr 2016)

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ALABAMA: (13) Arabic, Chinese, English, Farsi, French, German, Greek, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Spanish, Thai, Vietnamese.

ALASKA: (1) English

ARIZONA: (2) English, Spanish.

ARKANSAS: (2) English, Spanish.

CALIFORNIA: (33) Amharic, Arabic, Armenian, Cambodian, Cantonese, Croatian, English, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Hmong, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Laotian, Mandarin Chinese, Farsi, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Romanian, Russian, Samoan, Spanish, Tagalog, Thai, Tongan, Turkish, Vietnamese.

COLORADO: (2) English, Spanish.

CONNECTICUT: (7) English, French, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, Mandarin Chinese.

DELAWARE: (5) Chinese, English, Haitian Creole, Korean, Spanish.

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA: (15) Amharic, Arabic, Cantonese, English, French, German, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Tagalog, Thai, Vietnamese.

FLORIDA: (3) English, Haitian Creole, Spanish.

GEORGIA: (11) Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Spanish, Turkish, Vietnamese.

HAWAII: (12) Chinese, Chuuukese, Hawaiian, Japanese, Korean, Ilocano, Marshal Islander, Samoan, Spanish, Tagalog, Tongan, Vietnamese.

IDAHO: (11) Arabic, American Sign Language, Chinese, English, Farsi, French, Korean, Russian, Serbo-Croatian, Spanish, Vietnamese.

ILLINOIS: (5) Chinese, English, Korean, Polish, Spanish.

INDIANA: (12) Arabic, Burmese, Chin, English, German, Japanese, Korean, Spanish, Punjabi, Russian, Simplified Chinese, Vietnamese.

IOWA: (21) Albanian, Arabic, Bosnian, Burmese, Cambodian, Chinese, English, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hmong, Italian, Korean, Laotian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Somali, Spanish, Vietnamese.

KANSAS: (2) English, Spanish.

KENTUCKY: (23) Albanian, Arabic, Bosnian, Burmese, Cambodian, Chinese, Croatian, English, French, German, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, Laotian, Persian, Polish, Romanian, Russian, Somali, Spanish, Thai, Turkish, Vietnamese.

LOUISIANA: (1) English.

MAINE: (5) Arabic, English, French, Somali, Spanish.

MARYLAND: (6) English, French, Korean, Spanish, Traditional Chinese, Vietnamese.

MASSACHUSETTS:(28) Albanian, Arabic, Armenian, Burmese, Chinese, Czech, English, Farsi, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Khmer, Korean, Lao, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Spanish, Turkish, Urdu, Vietnamese.

MICHIGAN: (9) Arabic, Burmese, English, Greek, Hindi, Japanese, Polish, Russian, Spanish.

MINNESOTA: (6) English, Hmong, Russian, Somali, Spanish, Vietnamese.

MISSISSIPPI: (10) Chinese, English, French, German, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Spanish, Vietnamese.

MISSOURI: (12) Bosnian, Chinese, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Spanish, Vietnamese.

MONTANA: (4) Chinese, English, Russian, Spanish.

NEBRASKA: (2) English, Spanish.

NEVADA: (2) English, Spanish.

NEW HAMPSHIRE: (3) English, French, Spanish.

NEW JERSEY: (10) Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish.

NEW MEXICO: (2) English, Spanish.

NEW YORK: (14) Albanian, Arabic, Bosnian, Chinese, English, French, Greek, Hebrew, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Russian, Spanish.

NORTH CAROLINA: (10) Arabic, Chinese, English, French, German, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Spanish, Vietnamese.

NORTH DAKOTA: (13) American Sign Language, Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Nepali, Russian, Serbo-Croatian, Somali, Spanish, Swahili, Turkish, Vietnamese.

OHIO: (8) Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Japanese, Russian, Somali, Spanish.

OKLAHOMA: (1) English

OREGON: (8) Arabic, Chinese, English, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Spanish, Vietnamese.

PENNSYLVANIA: (9) Arabic, English, French, Hindi, Korean, Mandarin Chinese, Spanish, Ukrainian, Vietnamese.

RHODE ISLAND: (7) Arabic, Bosnian, English, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish.

SOUTH CAROLINA: (4) English, French, German, Spanish.

SOUTH DAKOTA: (1) English.

TENNESSE: (4) English, Japanese, Korean, Spanish.

TEXAS: (2) English, Spanish.

UTAH: (1) English.

VERMONT: (5), English, French, Serbo-Croation, Somali, Spanish.

VIRGINIA: (21) American Sign Language, Amharic, Arabic, Chinese, Dari, Farsi, English, French, German, Haitian Creole, Italian, Korean, Mongolian, Nepali, Pashto, Punjabi, Russian, Spanish, Turkish, Urdu, Vietnamese.

WASHINGTON: (7) Chinese, English, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Spanish, Vietnamese.

WEST VIRGNIA: (3) English, Japanese, Spanish.

WISCONSIN: (8) Chinese, English, Hmong, Polish, Russian, Serbo-Croatian, Somali, Spanish.

WYOMING: (1) English.

Information in the above table was collected by U.S. English from officials at the motor vehicle departments in each of the 50 states and the District of Columbia, February-April 2016.

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Post by naby64 on Apr 28, 2025 17:29:33 GMT

There are already videos on TT that this is happening in AR. Now is it for real happening? I don't know. I am not sure how I feel about this. I mean, you are supposed to be able to read English. Do reading and speaking go hand in hand? No, I can read some words in several different languages but I can't speak them. I would think these drivers are able to speak un poco of English. For safety reasons possibly?

However, I can also see me going to a different country and knowing some phrases but not able to speak fluently. Spain was an eye opener. I could speak some things. Reading was much easier. I got the gist of it. But locals speak in slang or so fast, it was difficult for me a few times. I also didn't want to look like a dumb American also.

I will state I am against any of his EO that are just out there to isolate us and make us seem more supreme. We aren't.

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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 28, 2025 17:36:07 GMT

I think this is wrong. Totally wrong. SPEAKING a language fluently is just so subjective... someone from the Deep South might be unintelligible if they were on vacation in the UP of Michigan, or in NYC. Should they not be able to get a commercial drivers license, then, because I think I can't understand them? The whole idea of an 'official' language is so abhorrent to me.

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Post by lurker on Apr 28, 2025 17:41:55 GMT

That will eliminate about half of the drivers that come across our scales daily. While it can be challenging for our scale operators to communicate with them, the drivers do a good job. it's hard enough to find drivers, this EO will make it even more so.

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Jul 3, 2014 22:53:34 GMT crimsoncat05 said:

someone from the Deep South might be unintelligible if they were on vacation in the UP of Michigan, or in NYC

For real. When I was in New Orleans for a work trip, a group of us took a swamp tour and none of us could understand more than half of what the guide was saying - he'd lived in Louisiana his whole life and I swear it was like listening to a foreign language.

If the drivers can read English, as already required, that's enough. Just one more way to further marginalize and "other" people who aren't US-born, cisgender, straight, evangelical, white men.

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Post by katlady on Apr 28, 2025 17:48:23 GMT

Here in San Diego, many trucks come up the border from Mexico, with Mexican drivers. I am curious, in Europe, are truck drivers from foreign countries required to speak the language they are entering, besides a basic knowledge?

Mar 28, 2017 16:05:35 GMT revirdsuba99 said:

West Virginia is funny

That is interesting. Are they many Japanese in West Virginia? I know that there are many Japanese companies in Tennessee, so I can understand that one. But I didn't know they were also in West Virginia.

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Post by littlemama on Apr 28, 2025 18:09:38 GMT

Burmese was unexpected as a language the test is available in. There are a few others I thought would be ahead of thst one in my state

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Apr 28, 2025 17:48:23 GMT katlady said:

Here in San Diego, many trucks come up the border from Mexico, with Mexican drivers. I am curious, in Europe, are truck drivers from foreign countries required to speak the language they are entering, besides a basic knowledge?

Mar 28, 2017 16:05:35 GMT revirdsuba99 said:

West Virginia is funny

That is interesting. Are they many Japanese in West Virginia? I know that there are many Japanese companies in Tennessee, so I can understand that one. But I didn't know they were also in West Virginia.

I'm not aware of any such requirements. The EU has 24 official languages. Truck driver rules and regulations are mainly focused on driving hours and rest periods etc.

european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-history/languages_en

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One of the EU’s founding principles is multilingualism.

This policy aims to:

communicating with its citizens in their own languages
protecting Europe’s rich linguistic diversity
promoting language learning in Europe
This is a unique approach, unequalled by multilingual countries or international organisations.

Multilingualism is enshrined in the EU’s Charter of Fundamental Rights: EU nationals have the right to use any of the 24 official languages to communicate with the EU institutions, and the institutions must reply in the same language.

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Jun 25, 2014 20:14:46 GMT katlady said:

Here in San Diego, many trucks come up the border from Mexico, with Mexican drivers. I am curious, in Europe, are truck drivers from foreign countries required to speak the language they are entering, besides a basic knowledge?

Not truck drivers, but Pilots are expected to have a basic knowledge of English world wide. Avaiation English is a requirement for all civil aviation.

I think it should be required for over the road truck drivers also, as a part of their CLD license. This doesn't necessarily mean they have to be proficient in conversational English, but they need to have a good grasp of the words and phrases they need to know to safely do their job. Truckers can haul very hazardous waste, simple freight, grain, fuel, etc. Not being able to communicate on a basic level could be deadly.

I can not read the article linked, so I am not really replying to what might be in that article, but I think for the safety of all involved, those who drive commercially should have a basic grasp of English when hauling in the US.

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Post by Merge on Apr 28, 2025 19:19:57 GMT

It makes sense that they need to be able to read signs and safety warnings written in English. Anything else is just a sop to his xenophobic base.

I can't wait to find out what my Trump voting brother, who owns a logistics company, thinks about this. He already bemoans how hard it is to find drivers.I know he thinks driverless trucks are the future, but he'll also tell you the technology isn't there yet.

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Jun 25, 2014 22:52:46 GMT iowgirl said:

Truckers can haul very hazardous waste, simple freight, grain, fuel, etc. Not being able to communicate on a basic level could be deadly.

My DH is a hazmat licensed driver, so I know what he had to go thru to get that license-- hours and hours of very specific training and tests before they can even get those licenses. And, the risk from any driver issue goes back onto the company that hired them. Any accident that might happen is such a small chance... like someone else already said, there is such a shortage of good commercially licensed drivers already, this is just going to exacerbate a situation that's already a problem.

If someone is a good driver, and their only issue is that they can't speak English fluently? yeah, lets add to the driver shortage because we're racist. That will help the goods get across the country to where they're supposed to go so prices will be lowered.

ETA: I should have just waited and said 'ditto' to Merge. lol

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Apr 28, 2025 19:19:57 GMT Merge said:

It makes sense that they need to be able to read signs and safety warning written in English. Anything else is just a sop to his xenophobic base.

I can't wait to find out what my Trump voting brother, who owns a logistics company, thinks about this. He already bemoans how hard it is to find drivers.I know he thinks driverless trucks are the future, but he'll also tell you the technology isn't there yet.

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Apr 28, 2025 17:36:07 GMT crimsoncat05 said:

I think this is wrong. Totally wrong. SPEAKING a language fluently is just so subjective... someone from the Deep South might be unintelligible if they were on vacation in the UP of Michigan, or in NYC. Should they not be able to get a commercial drivers license, then, because I think I can't understand them? The whole idea of an 'official' language is so abhorrent to me.

And it isn't like the Orange Menace can speak coherently, and it is doubtful he can read.

I mean they had enough language to pass the driving test didn't they? Shouldn't that be enough?

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Apr 28, 2025 17:36:07 GMT crimsoncat05 said:

I think this is wrong. Totally wrong. SPEAKING a language fluently is just so subjective... someone from the Deep South might be unintelligible if they were on vacation in the UP of Michigan, or in NYC. Should they not be able to get a commercial drivers license, then, because I think I can't understand them? The whole idea of an 'official' language is so abhorrent to me.

I’m a native Southerner and once got stopped for speeding in the boonies in Virginia and I DID NOT understand what the trooper was saying.

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Post by Linda on Apr 28, 2025 20:44:04 GMT

Jul 3, 2014 22:53:34 GMT crimsoncat05 said:

SPEAKING a language fluently is just so subjective... someone from the Deep South might be unintelligible if they were on vacation in the UP of Michigan, or in NYC.

I've lived in Florida since 1998 - and there are still English as a 1st language people in my area that I can't understand - ran into one today at the store - I suspect I may have seemed rude but I didn't catch a single word of what he said and neither did DD18. He was speaking English but with a heavy rural accent/dialect

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Apr 28, 2025 20:44:04 GMT Linda said:

Jul 3, 2014 22:53:34 GMT crimsoncat05 said:

SPEAKING a language fluently is just so subjective... someone from the Deep South might be unintelligible if they were on vacation in the UP of Michigan, or in NYC.

I've lived in Florida since 1998 - and there are still English as a 1st language people in my area that I can't understand - ran into one today at the store - I suspect I may have seemed rude but I didn't catch a single word of what he said and neither did DD18. He was speaking English but with a heavy rural accent/dialect

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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 28, 2025 22:41:49 GMT

Yay, he's bringing so many jobs back to real Americans! I just know there will be a very long line of real Americans, white Americans, lining up to get a lucrative truck driving gig! Just like the ones lining up to pick fruit!

You'd better start stocking up on your non perishables, because the supply chain is going to get a whole lot slower when they have fewer drivers.

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Apr 28, 2025 21:08:29 GMT pinklady said:

If this mimics the airline/pilot requirements of speaking English, I don't have a problem with this.

Why? The jobs are not comparable. Airline pilots have to be able to communicate with air traffic controllers and English is the set standard. Why do truck drivers need the same standard? If they can pass the test to get their driver’s license, why isn’t that enough?

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Post by lisae on Apr 29, 2025 0:18:36 GMT

As someone who can't learn to speak another language to save her life, I have great sympathy for people trying to learn English. Yes, they must know how to read the signs and whatever else they have to have to do their jobs but this is yet another proclamation that ignores reality. We have a shortage of drivers. We have a shortage of many kinds of laborers and yet so many of his plans will make those situations worse which will of course lead to higher prices and inflation.

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Apr 29, 2025 0:13:55 GMT Skellinton said:

Apr 28, 2025 21:08:29 GMT pinklady said:

If this mimics the airline/pilot requirements of speaking English, I don't have a problem with this.

Why? The jobs are not comparable. Airline pilots have to be able to communicate with air traffic controllers and English is the set standard. Why do truck drivers need the same standard? If they can pass the test to get their driver’s license, why isn’t that enough?

I do see them as comparable in the transportation realm and I just don’t have a problem with it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Post by melanell on Apr 29, 2025 1:03:57 GMT

So, what's the next step? (Because gosh knows they never stop after one thing.)

Do we move on to non-commercial drivers? Will legal US residents need to speak English proficiently to get a license?

Will tourists be allowed to rent a car if they are not proficient in English, both spoken and written? (Even though one can generally drive without needing to speak to people, and one can use a translation app in the event that they do need to speak to someone.)

I feel like every darn thing is a slippery slope these days.

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Apr 29, 2025 0:36:32 GMT pinklady said:

Apr 29, 2025 0:13:55 GMT Skellinton said:

Why? The jobs are not comparable. Airline pilots have to be able to communicate with air traffic controllers and English is the set standard. Why do truck drivers need the same standard? If they can pass the test to get their driver’s license, why isn’t that enough?

I do see them as comparable in the transportation realm and I just don’t have a problem with it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

IMO There is something of a difference though because pilots have to communicate verbally for taking off, landing, navigating airports and airspace because they can’t always physically see what else is around them and they’re traveling at a much greater speed. I don’t think drivers navigating on roadways need to communicate verbally to the same degree with others in that space. I mean, I could drive coast to coast without ever having to talk to anybody as long as I could read the language and figure out where I was going.

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Apr 29, 2025 0:36:32 GMT pinklady said:

Apr 29, 2025 0:13:55 GMT Skellinton said:

Why? The jobs are not comparable. Airline pilots have to be able to communicate with air traffic controllers and English is the set standard. Why do truck drivers need the same standard? If they can pass the test to get their driver’s license, why isn’t that enough?

I do see them as comparable in the transportation realm and I just don’t have a problem with it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

They both may be transportation but as I said pilots are required to all know English as it is the standard for communication between them and their air traffic controllers. Truck drivers don’t need to communicate in English to drive a commercial vehicle, they only need to communicate enough to pass their licensing test. It is not comparable.
I am sure a more articulate pea can come up with a better comparison, but it is like comparing apples to oranges.

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Apr 29, 2025 4:09:53 GMT Skellinton said:

Apr 29, 2025 0:36:32 GMT pinklady said:

I do see them as comparable in the transportation realm and I just don’t have a problem with it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

They both may be transportation but as I said pilots are required to all know English as it is the standard for communication between them and their air traffic controllers. Truck drivers don’t need to communicate in English to drive a commercial vehicle, they only need to communicate enough to pass their licensing test. It is not comparable.
I am sure a more articulate pea can come up with a better comparison, but it is like comparing apples to oranges.

I am not very articulate, but I'll give it a shot.

I see it as the pilot has to be in charge. The pilot is the one talking directly to air traffic controllers. He has to not only take orders, but he has to be able to give orders, and communicate any issues or problems.

The truck driver just has to pick up an order, know where he has to go, and get there. There is not much to reading road signs. The truck driver can go his entire route without talking to anyone. If the truck driver has a problem, he calls his boss, who probably communicates in the driver's native language, and then the boss works out the issue.

People drive in foreign countries all the time without having a good understanding of the language.

seaexplore Prolific Pea Posts: 9,366 Apr 25, 2015 23:57:30 GMT	FF states he will sign EO order truck drivers speak English Apr 29, 2025 13:13:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by seaexplore on Apr 29, 2025 13:13:37 GMT My trucker trumplican friends are allllll in favor of this.

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Apr 28, 2025 20:16:25 GMT Skellinton said:

Apr 28, 2025 17:36:07 GMT crimsoncat05 said:

I think this is wrong. Totally wrong. SPEAKING a language fluently is just so subjective... someone from the Deep South might be unintelligible if they were on vacation in the UP of Michigan, or in NYC. Should they not be able to get a commercial drivers license, then, because I think I can't understand them? The whole idea of an 'official' language is so abhorrent to me.

And it isn't like the Orange Menace can speak coherently, and it is doubtful he can read.

I mean they had enough language to pass the driving test didn't they? Shouldn't that be enough?

That would have been biden. Unable to speak a coherent sentence/paragraph and couldn't read off of a teleprompter.

I KNOW that you really don't believe that Trump can't speak coherently or read, right?

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Apr 29, 2025 13:13:37 GMT seaexplore said:

My trucker trumplican friends are allllll in favor of this.

hope they're all ready to recommend their non-trucker Trumplican friends for jobs, then... and/or are okay with HIGHER prices for goods. Because there already aren't enough truck drivers. But probably not... because they can't connect the dots with these things to save their lives. BIG PICTURE thinking (see the post RIGHT above mine for another example) is NOT a skill most of them have.

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Apr 29, 2025 14:08:30 GMT cindosha said:

Apr 28, 2025 20:16:25 GMT Skellinton said:

And it isn't like the Orange Menace can speak coherently, and it is doubtful he can read.

I mean they had enough language to pass the driving test didn't they? Shouldn't that be enough?

That would have been biden. Unable to speak a coherent sentence/paragraph and couldn't read off of a teleprompter.

I KNOW that you really don't believe that Trump can't speak coherently or read, right?

HA HA HA HA HA … oh wait, you’re serious? :rolleyes:

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