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Post by Zee on May 12, 2025 23:34:02 GMT
I am sincerely curious how the right can spin this into anything but racism.
Your super rich BFF Elon is hired to help you smash up the government. You give his white countrymen convenient REFUGEE status while deporting brown people.
You get all your voters and followers to believe you're simply ridding America of all the brown rapists Biden let stroll on into America, totally disregarding the fact that there are home-grown rapists here and also ignoring the fact that most of these Brown people not only work, but they work HARD doing jobs most Americans don't even want to do like process meat, pick crops, and tend to your yard. Etc etc etc.
Your sycophants on Fox News also stretch themselves to the limit daily to paint Democrats and liberals as a people who want rapists to stay here, because liberals all like rapists running loose. We're definitely not the party of folks who want women to have bodily autonomy and choice, now are we?
What will these South African white people be doing to earn their keep? Have they all been fully vetted to make sure they're not rapists? I'm not sure, because South Africa has one of the highest rates of sexual assault in the world.
Just things I'm pondering... Wondering what is the breaking point for Republicans.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on May 12, 2025 23:48:55 GMT
He also let the Tate brothers back in. White rapists. While deporting working immigrants with families who have been positive members of society.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 12, 2025 23:50:45 GMT
This will help the court cases against deportation. Will not be able to claim 'we' have no room! They may be made to answer questions under oath(not likely). But should!!!
*** However, we really do need to protect OUR farmers, don't we? Tariffs are killing them..
*** MSNBC Weeknight prime Time The Episcopal Church who well known for helping resettle immigrants of all nationalities has stated that they will not participate in the resettlement of the Afrikaners...
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Post by Sarah*H on May 13, 2025 0:22:36 GMT
Clarifying that they are not refugees. I know that's the premise under which they have been granted entry to the United States but they are not refugees under the universally recognized definition of the 1951 Refugee Convention or its protocol. UNHCRThere are over 180,000 actual refugees in the pipeline. The process, including vetting, normally takes years. There are many arguments to be made in favor of (or against) immigration, including economic migration which is what is happening here. But they are not refugees.
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Post by Zee on May 13, 2025 0:28:49 GMT
Clarifying that they are not refugees. I know that's the premise under which they have been granted entry to the United States but they are not refugees under the universally recognized definition of the 1951 Refugee Convention or its protocol. UNHCRThere are over 180,000 actual refugees in the pipeline. The process, including vetting, normally takes years. There are many arguments to be made in favor of (or against) immigration, including economic migration which is what is happening here. But they are not refugees. Yet that is what we're being told.
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Post by Merge on May 13, 2025 2:18:40 GMT
Episcopalian church taking a stand. 
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Post by ntsf on May 13, 2025 2:23:55 GMT
one commentator pointed out the law referred to started to be enforced in jan 2025, no land has been seized, and no farmers have been murdered over this situation yet.
lies and more lies as usual. and racist
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 13, 2025 2:39:31 GMT
Also, we don't need farmers.
We have hundreds+/- of farmers who have no work, who may get subsidies because they have lost their markets because of FF's tariffs. They may never recover their Chinese customers who are buying from Brazil!
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Post by aj2hall on May 13, 2025 2:49:44 GMT
I posted this on the ICE thread but the NYT and Wa Po articles both had important information. The white South Africans are not fleeing their country, they are not refugees and according to the UN, they do not meet the criteria for refugees. Unbelievable. Trump is deporting everyone from South and Central America as fast as he can and suspending asylum for anyone with brown or black skin but choosing to allow, expedite and pay for white South Africans to come here. Can we please send Musk back in exchange? How exactly are white South Africans being discriminated against? For years they have enjoyed privilege, have owned almost all of the land etc. Equality is not discrimination or oppression of white people. I didn't think it was possible but I despise Steven Miller as much if not more than Trump. This administration refuses to bring back immigrants wrongly sent to El Salvador but they're happy to accept white people who were not even fleeing their country. www.nytimes.com/2025/05/11/world/africa/white-south-africans-granted-refugee-status-by-trump-leave-for-us.htmlMr. Trump has halted virtually all refugee admissions for people fleeing famine and war from places like Sudan and the Democratic Republic of Congo. But he has created an expedited path into the country for Afrikaners, a white ethnic minority that created and led the brutal apartheid regime in South Africa.
The refugee process often takes years. But only three months have passed from the time Mr. Trump signed an executive order establishing refugee status for Afrikaners to the first cohort making its way to America.
Although white South Africans make up only 7 percent of the population, they own farmland that covers about half of the country. That is indicative of a broader prosperity gap, with white South Africans enjoying much higher employment rates, lower poverty rates and more lucrative wages than their Black counterparts. www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/05/09/afrikaner-refugees-south-africa-white-trump/Stephen Miller, Trump’s deputy chief of staff, told reporters outside the White House on Friday that “what’s happening in South Africa fits the textbook definition of why the refugee program was created. This is persecution based on a protected characteristic, in this case, race.”
Last year, no South Africans of any race, ethnicity or linguistic group were vetted by the United Nations as meeting its criteria to be resettled as refugees, according to the organization’s data.
Bill Frelick, the refugee and migrant rights director at Human Rights Watch, said thousands of refugees, including many Black sub-Saharan Africans, were prepared and ready to be resettled in the United States.
“The door was slammed in their faces,” he said. “Now, to have a group that didn’t flee their country, that has historically enjoyed tremendous privilege in the country and that are White, provides a cruel racial twist to the suspension of refugee resettlement.”
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Post by aj2hall on May 13, 2025 22:32:32 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/us/politics/trump-refugees-white-south-africa-aghanistan.htmlOn the same day that dozens of white South Africans arrived in the United States as refugees, at the invitation of President Trump himself, his administration said thousands of Afghans could be deported starting this summer.
Mr. Trump’s immigration policies are riddled with contradictions, epitomized by Monday’s arrival of a chartered jet, paid for by the American government, carrying dozens of Afrikaners who say they are facing racial discrimination at home.
The Trump administration’s focus on white Afrikaners, a white ethnic minority that ruled during apartheid, is particularly striking as it effectively bans most other refugees and targets legal and illegal immigrants alike for deportation. Those include Afghans who were granted “temporary protected status” after the disastrous U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021, many of whom had risked their lives to help American forces.
But the administration’s decision to carve out an exception for white Afrikaners has raised questions about who the “right” immigrants are, in Mr. Trump’s view.
“One of the criteria was that refugees did not pose any challenge to our national security and that they could be assimilated easily into our country,” he said, without elaborating on what that meant, or why other populations would not be assimilated as easily.
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Post by scrappinmama on May 13, 2025 22:56:04 GMT
It's racism. It's always racism with Trumpers.
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