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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 6, 2025 17:23:45 GMT
LOL.. what a way to start the day! Took my lunch break early to run to this estate sale and this is what happens. I get to the house where the sale was. I park. It was on a cul-de-sac. I parked between two houses where there was a green grass area and then there was a pad for a camper. I parked right there, with most of the car in front of the grass and a bit of the car in front of where the pad for the camper was. I debated if it was 'okay' to do this with myself. No one was around. Camper obviously not in use and all closed up. No other cars or people in either house. This was not the regular driveway at all. So by my logic it was fine. I would NEVER ever block a driveway of fire hydrant. If there were open garages/owners milling around/camper open I would probably not have parked there or asked. I got in line because it wasn't open yet. And this old guy in front of me says right away 'you can't park there in front of the driveway'. I explained it was not a driveway and the camper is parked and not in use. He says "go move your car", all in my face. I don't do well and I get stubborn. Well then I was like.. "I'm fine, I'll take care of the situation". And I stood there. He was all muttering stuff to his wife. I was there a total of 15 minutes at most, not that it matters. Got into the sale, and was in a bedroom looking around and a lady came up to me and said "that guy was a total jerk, there is nothing wrong about where you parked" and said don't let him bother you, he is just a cranky old man. I said thanks. I was bothered by it but she validated my feelings. Another lady also came up to me and said something the same. She said you didn't do anything wrong. I was like PHEW. But maybe I was wrong. I looked at the situation and made the call. I am a rule follower and I do go out of my way to be polite and considerate. I hate when driver's block driveways or park crazy and block other people in. There was another car there almost in the middle of the street blocking in a boat. I thought that was weird. But not my business. Was I wrong? I will take it. I will agree and say I will never do it again.  Edited to add: not that this makes a different the wife, who didn't say anything.. had her free amendment speech sweatshirt on... I had to giggle about it... it was very Trumpish. |
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 6, 2025 17:34:04 GMT
If there is a drive way curb for access to any vehicle, I personally wouldn't block it. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 6, 2025 17:43:40 GMT
If there is a drive way curb for access to any vehicle, I personally wouldn't block it. 🤷🏻♀️ No curb for cars.. it was a tall one. Which was weird. I really scoped it out.. While thinking about it.. They probably put the pad in later but didn't change the curb.. maybe they put something down when moving the camper in and out?? |
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Post by voltagain on Jun 6, 2025 17:44:55 GMT
I feel like you were wrong. It was some one's private parking space. Not your place to decide if they will be using it in the time you'll be in the sale. Just the fact you debated with yourself means you know it was wrong.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 6, 2025 17:48:00 GMT
Okay I gettin it.. I debated the wrong way it appears.. and I own it.  |
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Post by katlady on Jun 6, 2025 18:00:13 GMT
While thinking about it.. They probably put the pad in later but didn't change the curb.. maybe they put something down when moving the camper in and out?? Based on this, I don't think you were wrong. This is a pad, not a driveway. |
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Post by blue tulip on Jun 6, 2025 18:00:40 GMT
you parked in front of a storage space, with grass next to most of your car? not wrong.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 6, 2025 18:19:33 GMT
While thinking about it.. They probably put the pad in later but didn't change the curb.. maybe they put something down when moving the camper in and out?? Based on this, I don't think you were wrong. This is a pad, not a driveway. It's definitely a pad, not a driveway. |
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Post by snyder on Jun 6, 2025 18:27:02 GMT
Since you indicated the area in front of the RV was a regular curb and not part of a driveway apron, I would say it was fine to park there. It is a public street, so it is not a private spot. Even if they did want to move the RV, it is highly unlikely they would drive it off the curb, but would inch it into a turn that would get them onto the rdgular driveway and drive off using the driveway apron.
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Post by jill8909 on Jun 6, 2025 18:38:47 GMT
never ever argue with ... folks. lots of guns in every neighborhood. someone yells, I retreat.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 6, 2025 18:49:08 GMT
never ever argue with ... folks. lots of guns in every neighborhood. someone yells, I retreat. So right.. I was very quite and only said "I'll take care of it"... but I didn't leave the line. It was such a shock though. |
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Post by pinklady on Jun 6, 2025 18:53:44 GMT
If there was not a regular height curb where you parked, you were in the wrong. If there was, you were in the right.
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Post by melanell on Jun 6, 2025 19:43:35 GMT
From how you've described it I'm picturing a separate parking pad installed on the property to act as a storage place for the camper to keep it out of the actual driveway when not in use. And given that you said it had a full size curb in front of it, too? I'd say you were fine. DH got yelled at once for accidentally parking in front of a mailbox at a sale. The road was wooded and there were so many low hanging branches on the side of the road that DH was only paying attention to those, since I was in the passenger seat and would need to be able to open my door. So the tail end of our car wound up in front of the mailbox, but neither of us even saw the mailbox. Which was still totally our fault, I know. But you know, the owner could have said "Excuse me! You're blocking the mailbox. I need you to to move it, please." And let's just say that is so not how they pointed out our error.  You swear we ran over the mailbox, repeatedly, on purpose. Then got out of the car and bashed it with a crowbar a few times for good measure. |
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Post by worrywart on Jun 6, 2025 19:52:55 GMT
What does he care, is it his driveway? If it was the owner that's one thing but a random person at the estate sale?
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 6, 2025 20:03:58 GMT
From how you've described it I'm picturing a separate parking pad installed on the property to act as a storage place for the camper to keep it out of the actual driveway when not in use. And given that you said it had a full size curb in front of it, too? I'd say you were fine. DH got yelled at once for accidentally parking in front of a mailbox at a sale. The road was wooded and there were so many low hanging branches on the side of the road that DH was only paying attention to those, since I was in the passenger seat and would need to be able to open my door. So the tail end of our car wound up in front of the mailbox, but neither of us even saw the mailbox. Which was still totalley our fault, I know. But you know, the owner could have said "Excuse me! You're blocking the mailbox. I need you to to move it, please." And let's just say that is so not how they pointed out our error. You swear we ran over the mailbox, repeatedly, on purpose. Then got out of the car and bashed it with a crowbar a few times for good measure. Exactly a storage place for the camper, not tied to the driveway whatsoever. The driveway and the pad were separated by either rock or grass, I don't remember.. You would have to at least walked about 20 steps from one area to the other.. We do park in front of mailboxes on garage sale/estate sale days cause parking is so limited. And everyone does it. We have my kid's car parked in the street in front of our house, however we make her pull it up far enough from the mailbox so he can access our box. But it doesn't stop from other people parking there (usually doesn't happen though) When we are out messing around at sales I make an effort to avoid fire hydrants/driveways/mailboxes. If the only place is left would be by a mailbox we will park there... never in front of someone's driveway or hydrant. I would say more that half of people park in front of their mailboxes on a regular basis who park in the street in our neighborhood, it just can't be helped. |
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 6, 2025 20:05:13 GMT
What does he care, is it his driveway? If it was the owner that's one thing but a random person at the estate sale? That's what my sister said too. I was telling her about it. She said he is acting like the 'hall monitor' or something. It was nothing to him. |
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Post by melanell on Jun 6, 2025 20:11:38 GMT
From how you've described it I'm picturing a separate parking pad installed on the property to act as a storage place for the camper to keep it out of the actual driveway when not in use. And given that you said it had a full size curb in front of it, too? I'd say you were fine. DH got yelled at once for accidentally parking in front of a mailbox at a sale. The road was wooded and there were so many low hanging branches on the side of the road that DH was only paying attention to those, since I was in the passenger seat and would need to be able to open my door. So the tail end of our car wound up in front of the mailbox, but neither of us even saw the mailbox. Which was still totalley our fault, I know. But you know, the owner could have said "Excuse me! You're blocking the mailbox. I need you to to move it, please." And let's just say that is so not how they pointed out our error. You swear we ran over the mailbox, repeatedly, on purpose. Then got out of the car and bashed it with a crowbar a few times for good measure. Exactly a storage place for the camper, not tied to the driveway whatsoever. The driveway and the pad were separated by either rock or grass, I don't remember.. You would have to at least walked about 20 steps from one area to the other.. We do park in front of mailboxes on garage sale/estate sale days cause parking is so limited. And everyone does it. We have my kid's car parked in the street in front of our house, however we make her pull it up far enough from the mailbox so he can access our box. But it doesn't stop from other people parking there (usually doesn't happen though) When we are out messing around at sales I make an effort to avoid fire hydrants/driveways/mailboxes. If the only place is left would be by a mailbox we will park there... never in front of someone's driveway or hydrant. I would say more that half of people park in front of their mailboxes on a regular basis who park in the street in our neighborhood, it just can't be helped. Apparently this person was expecting something in the mail that day and the postal carrier wouldn't deliver if the box was blocked because it was a driving route, so there had to be room for them to pull in the truck by the box. We got the whole story as part of the screaming rant we received.  |
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Post by quiltz on Jun 6, 2025 20:35:14 GMT
And this old guy in front of me says right away 'you can't park there in front of the driveway'. I explained it was not a driveway and the camper is parked and not in use. He says "go move your car", all in my face. I don't do well and I get stubborn. Well then I was like.. "I'm fine, I'll take care of the situation". And I stood there. He was all muttering stuff to his wife. I was there a total of 15 minutes at most, not that it matters. Did this person actually scream or yell in a very loud bellowing voice? Was profanity used in the verbal exchange? I don't think that you were *YELLED AT* but you were spoken to ~~ There is a difference between actual yelling and someone speaking to you in a direct and authoritarian voice. "I'm fine, I'll take care of the situation". And I stood there. So, you didn't take care of the situation as you just stood there. Edited to add: Philippians 4:13, “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” (RIP Donna). ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ This is your tag-line. Is this a motto that you try to live your life with or just a random quote. Asking for a friend. |
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 6, 2025 21:06:33 GMT
And this old guy in front of me says right away 'you can't park there in front of the driveway'. I explained it was not a driveway and the camper is parked and not in use. He says "go move your car", all in my face. I don't do well and I get stubborn. Well then I was like.. "I'm fine, I'll take care of the situation". And I stood there. He was all muttering stuff to his wife. I was there a total of 15 minutes at most, not that it matters. Did this person actually scream or yell in a very loud bellowing voice? Was profanity used in the verbal exchange? I don't think that you were *YELLED AT* but you were spoken to ~~ There is a difference between actual yelling and someone speaking to you in a direct and authoritarian voice. "I'm fine, I'll take care of the situation". And I stood there. So, you didn't take care of the situation as you just stood there. Edited to add: Philippians 4:13, “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” (RIP Donna). ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ I This is your tag-line. Is this a motto that you try to live your life with or just a random quote. Asking for a friend. The man in a very loud voice that the entire line of people said YOU CAN'T PARK THERE. It was louder than talking, so I would consider it yelling since the people in front of the line could hear. If that isn't yelling, my bad. To me that was yelling as people were looking at us from about a driveway's length. I don't know EXACTLY. I took care of the situation as I made the decision by not moving my car and that I would move it when I left. That is taking care of the situation. I didn't yell back at the man, I very calmly said in a normal voice that I will take care of it. Maybe not to his specifications but to mine. Not sure how the Bible verse is tied with this, but I would say Christ was there by keeping me calm and standing up for myself. Not sure what else you would like me to say except I was wrong and I should have bide by this one person's outrage about parking in a place HE thought was not right. (while I had two supporters say he was acting like a jerk)... I never confronted him later or talked back to him. I was polite. I believe this is really far fetched by now.. it is what it is. It's dissected enough at this point. I got opinions both sides. Some agree.. a few disagree. The end. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 6, 2025 23:15:30 GMT
I think you were fine and the guy was the asshole here. We live near a lake and the houses on the lake have very small yards. Several of them have pads like that to park their boats on over the winter. If a boat was parked on one of those pads and was all covered up and obviously not going anywhere, I wouldn’t hesitate to park in front of it especially if I wasn’t planning on being there for very long. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by imkat on Jun 6, 2025 23:18:20 GMT
Seriously, why is it always older men yelling at women? You know, I never get yelled at by women of any age.
Most recently, I was parking at my dad's senior apartment building. There was only one spot available, and I parked there even though the car to my left was right up to my line. I opened my door and gave his car a very small love tap. He rolled down his window and yelled that I should park somewhere else. I said calmly, you are on the line sir. Then he yelled, so you're just going to hit my car? Not proud, but I told him to shut up and walked away.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jun 6, 2025 23:26:19 GMT
While I probably wouldn't have parked there, I would not necessarily say you were wrong. That man had no right to get in your face, and he should have minded his damn business. I'm sorry he did that to you. He was an asshole.
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Post by katiekaty on Jun 7, 2025 22:30:47 GMT
I asked a neighbor who is with the sheriff’s department what he thought of your question this morning. In the slightly older section of our neighborhood there are several houses that store their boats or campers on oneside and cars on the other. Most have the concrete lathe way to the sidewalk but not to the road as that is where the easement begins and you need city permits to cover the section on the other side and the angle it and the curb to the street. Most of our streets have city access yet remain under ownership of the neighborhood, but are governed by city laws. You would have been ticketed for blocking a driveway as that is what it is considered since it required city permits to build. Any access to property can be blocked and that’s access. What we feel should be doesn’t count. Sorry. Personally I don’t see he harm of it. Except, it a Friday, they may have been getting ready to leave and the old guy knew that. Did you even ask why? Courtesy extends always even if not extended first.
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Post by Skellinton on Jun 8, 2025 0:20:54 GMT
I am confused on if there was a curb or not. I am not familiar with the pads you are talking about.
If there was a curb I don’t understand why anyone would think it wrong to park there, and with regards to the hand slapping pea I don’t think talking to a person in a loud authoritarian voice is acceptable or any less offensive then yelling.
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Post by Skellinton on Jun 8, 2025 0:21:37 GMT
I feel like you were wrong. It was some one's private parking space. Not your place to decide if they will be using it in the time you'll be in the sale. Just the fact you debated with yourself means you know it was wrong. Why do you think it was someone’s personal parking space? I am genuinely curious. |
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 8, 2025 2:37:27 GMT
I am confused on if there was a curb or not. I am not familiar with the pads you are talking about. If there was a curb I don’t understand why anyone would think it wrong to park there, and with regards to the hand slapping pea I don’t think talking to a person in a loud authoritarian voice is acceptable or any less offensive then yelling. It’s kinda weird.. it wasn’t a curb like at the end of a driveway, where it is usually easy to drive off and on… it was more of a 3-5 inch squarish curb not meant to be driven off. There was cement that a camper was parked on it. I would assume they have some kind of ramp thing to drive the camper off of it. All in all no one was around, I was there 15 minutes or so. I left. Didn’t bother anyone. If there is a next time which I highly doubt as this was not normal I’ll pull into a different spot. |
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Post by Skellinton on Jun 8, 2025 4:32:49 GMT
I am confused on if there was a curb or not. I am not familiar with the pads you are talking about. If there was a curb I don’t understand why anyone would think it wrong to park there, and with regards to the hand slapping pea I don’t think talking to a person in a loud authoritarian voice is acceptable or any less offensive then yelling. It’s kinda weird.. it wasn’t a curb like at the end of a driveway, where it is usually easy to drive off and on… it was more of a 3-5 inch squarish curb not meant to be driven off. There was cement that a camper was parked on it. I would assume they have some kind of ramp thing to drive the camper off of it. All in all no one was around, I was there 15 minutes or so. I left. Didn’t bother anyone. If there is a next time which I highly doubt as this was not normal I’ll pull into a different spot. Well, that sounds like a curb to me. I think you were fine and that guy was the AH. |
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Post by MorningPerson on Jun 9, 2025 12:08:31 GMT
And this old guy in front of me says right away 'you can't park there in front of the driveway'. I explained it was not a driveway and the camper is parked and not in use. He says "go move your car", all in my face. I don't do well and I get stubborn. Well then I was like.. "I'm fine, I'll take care of the situation". And I stood there. He was all muttering stuff to his wife. I was there a total of 15 minutes at most, not that it matters. Did this person actually scream or yell in a very loud bellowing voice? Was profanity used in the verbal exchange? I don't think that you were *YELLED AT* but you were spoken to ~~ There is a difference between actual yelling and someone speaking to you in a direct and authoritarian voice. "I'm fine, I'll take care of the situation". And I stood there. So, you didn't take care of the situation as you just stood there. Edited to add: Philippians 4:13, “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” (RIP Donna). ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ This is your tag-line. Is this a motto that you try to live your life with or just a random quote. Asking for a friend. 🙄 What would you want her to have done in order for you to be ok with this? Would you think Jesus would want her to say yes sir I’ll go move my car thank you sir? Is that what you get from this verse? |
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jun 9, 2025 12:22:14 GMT
I'm going to put my 2 cents in. I live on a cul-de-sac. It's turning radius is so small that it is technically illegal for anyone to part around the circle. Firetrucks/EMT can't get through. We decided not to put up signs telling people not to part there. My lot is a pie shape with just enough grass in front to park one small car. If we do it, we pull all the way off the road (destroying the grass). I have had 3 mailboxes damaged because people park there and then hit my mailbox. I have had people park so close to my driveway that I can't possibly get out of my driveway because the turn to clear the curb in the circle is too tight. I have had to go out and ask people not to park there because I can't get out if they do.
As for this guy, he is just being grouchy. It probably was his camper space.
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Post by Fidget on Jun 9, 2025 12:40:19 GMT
I voted you were wrong. I would not have parked there. The woman across the street from me runs an in home day care and there have been multiple times someone has blocked my drive while dropping off or picking up their little ones, when I see this and tell them they can't block my drive, I get the usual - I'll only be a minute. I don't care how long they're going to be - If I want to leave I should not have to wait. Maybe I voted you were wrong simply because I know the frustration of having a similar situation.
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You swear we ran over the mailbox, repeatedly, on purpose. Then got out of the car and bashed it with a crowbar a few times for good measure. 
