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Post by morecowbell on Jun 6, 2025 21:49:06 GMT
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Post by Merge on Jun 6, 2025 21:54:14 GMT
This is old news. No matter how you want to spin it, a wave with fingers open and the fingers tightly closed motion Elon used are very different. Cory Booker also doesn’t have a history of aligning himself with white supremacists online. Elon does.
I’m surprised you’d defend Elon after he’s publicly insulted and broken up with your orange god.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 8, 2025 19:17:43 GMT
Seriously? With everything else going on, this is the best you can come up with? Cory Booker waving? Hate to point out the obvious, but the idea that Cory Booker, a Black man, aligned with white supremacists or neo Nazis is absolutely ridiculous. He’s spoken out against white supremacy. He broke the record of a white supremacist for the longest speech in the Senate by speaking against autocracy. There is some justice and redemption in a Black man using his voice and platform to fight for civil rights and against autocracy where a white man previously spoke against civil rights. I can only hope there is some justice and redemption for the orange Cheeto, Musk and everyone who voted for them. Crickets about Trump inflaming the situation in LA and taking advantage of that to call in the military for a domestic situation. And silence about Trump using an unsecured personal cell phone or Hegseth using unsecure signal chat from the lock her up crowd. Silence about things that really matter and bath faith arguments, false comparisons, false equivalencies etc about insignificant things. abcnews.go.com/Politics/cory-booker-speaks-white-supremacy-race-guns-south/story?id=64825822www.axios.com/2025/06/08/donald-trump-cell-phone-security-hackers |
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Post by sunshine on Jun 8, 2025 19:47:34 GMT
It’s never the right time to criticize the lefties. 😂
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Post by Merge on Jun 8, 2025 19:57:40 GMT
It’s never the right time to criticize the lefties. 😂 It's never the right time to simp for fascists. |
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Post by morecowbell on Jun 8, 2025 20:49:52 GMT
When he placed his hand over his heart and says: "My heart goes out to you. It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured."
His actual words tell you what he was saying and his actual intent.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 8, 2025 21:48:16 GMT
You really want to spend that much energy trying to make it ok to support Elon, huh? Interesting.
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Post by morecowbell on Jun 8, 2025 21:53:47 GMT
You really want to spend that much energy trying to make it ok to support Elon, huh? Interesting. All voices have value in the conversation. You really trying to shame me for voicing the other side, huh? THAT is what's interesting.🤔 |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 8, 2025 21:55:32 GMT
You really want to spend that much energy trying to make it ok to support Elon, huh? Interesting. All voices have value in the conversation. You really trying to shame me for voicing the other side, huh? THAT is what's interesting.🤔 The “other side” is supporting horrible people. Good for you, I guess. |
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Post by morecowbell on Jun 8, 2025 22:33:24 GMT
Seriously? Hate to point out the obvious, but the idea that Cory Booker, a Black man, aligned with white supremacists or neo Nazis is absolutely ridiculous. No shit. |
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Post by morecowbell on Jun 8, 2025 22:34:02 GMT
All voices have value in the conversation. You really trying to shame me for voicing the other side, huh? THAT is what's interesting.🤔 The “other side” is supporting horrible people. Good for you, I guess. That's an OPINION that I whole heartedly disagree with. My disagreement is based on your assessments that, themselves are based on the many emotionally loaded responses to incorrect claims. Such as videoS that promote pretend intent, clipped of actual words that debunk your pretend claims of intent. Mind reading with overt sensationalism and framing of issues in such a way as to pretend the worst INTENT possible. Despite evidence to the contrary. And finally, your constant claims of it's different when you do the exact same thing. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 9, 2025 0:50:15 GMT
In case it wasn’t clear, here’s a list of Elon’s white supremacist and antisemitic comments. His Nazi salute taken in context with these comments, his support for the far right wing neo Nazi party in Germany and support for Holocaust deniers takes on an entirely different meaning than a wave from Cory Booker. Even if you believe the nonsense that it was a Roman salute, Trump’s white supremacist supporters took it exactly as it was intended, support for them. forward.com/news/550035/elon-musk-disturbing-comments-jews/
Elon Musk has made some disturbing comments about Jews. Here’s a list.
Elon Musk has long been accused of fostering hate speech, conspiracy theories and other bigotry and misinformation on X. When he bought the social media platform formerly known as Twitter in 2022, he fired most of the company’s engineers that were involved in moderating content, and reinstated many users who had been banned from the platform.
Musk has also made a number of disturbing comments himself, including promoting a QAnon conspiracy theory and antisemitism. He sometimes quotes Nazis and he has had chummy exchanges with avowed bigots. In addition, he’s clashed with the Anti-Defamation League, which has criticized him for permitting hate speech on X.
Since Musk’s acquisition, groups that track hate speech have documented spikes in racist, xenophobic and antisemitic activity on the platform.
Jan. 26, 2025: In a speech at a convention for Germany’s far-right AfD party, Musk tells the crowd of 4,500 people, “There is too much focus on past guilt” in the country “and we need to move beyond that. Children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents, let alone their great-grandparents.” He added that he believed the party could “preserve” and “protect” German culture, which he implied was facing a threat. “It’s good to be proud of German culture, German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything,” Musk said.
Jan. 23, 2025: Embroiled in controversy around a hand gesture he made that resembled a Nazi salute, Musk shared to X a post containing a series of Holocaust puns. “Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations!” Musk wrote. “Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that comin.”
Jan. 20, 2025: Musk appears to do a Nazi salute twice on stage while giving a speech at Trump’s inauguration. Facing an onslaught of criticism for the gesture, Musk does not clarify its meaning, but writes on X several hours later, “The ‘everyone is Hitler’ attack is sooo tired.”
Sep. 3, 2024: Musk posts a video clip of a podcaster named Darryl Cooper telling Tucker Carlson that millions of people died during the Holocaust not because Nazi Germany had any desire to exterminate Jews and other ethnic minorities, but rather because Adolf Hitler went into World War II without a plan for how to house and feed prisoners. Musk commented, “Very interesting. Worth watching,” in resharing the post to his 196 million X followers. He later deleted the post.
May 2, 2024: Musk reinstated the X account of Nick Fuentes, the Holocaust denier and antisemite who has said “perfidious Jews” should be executed. “It is better to have anti whatever out in the open to be rebutted,” Musk wrote, “than grow simmering in the darkness.”
March 18, 2024: In an interview with Don Lemon, Musk downplayed his past antisemitic comments. “If I quote something, it doesn’t mean I agree with anything and everything in it,” Musk said. “It’s just that I think this is something people should consider.” Lemon pressed Musk about a 2023 study that showed that antisemitic posts doubled since Musk took control of the platform in October 2022. Another report found that 86% of the posts reported for hateful content remained up. “If nobody reads it, it doesn’t matter,” Musk argued, separating between the number of antisemitic posts and the views the content received.
Jan. 22, 2024: After years of criticism from the Jewish community, Musk visited Auschwitz, where he said that had social media been around at the time, the Holocaust “would have been impossible to hide.” (Word of the camps did get out at the time of the Holocaust, but many chose to ignore it. Holocaust scholars say Musk’s “fantasy scenario” is far-fetched.)
Nov. 15, 2023: On a post that invoked the “great replacement theory,” accusing Jews of “flooding their country” with “hordes of minorities,” Musk replied to a user “You have said the actual truth.” Major corporations, including Apple and Disney, pulled their ads from the platform.
Sept. 4, 2023: White supremacist Nick Fuentes, on his America First livestream, applauded Musk’s engagement with a #BantheADL campaign on Twitter, including Musk having “tweeted 28 times in just the last 24 hours about this campaign.”
Sept. 4, 2023: Musk accused the ADL of being the “biggest generators of anti-Semitism” on Twitter and threatened a $4 billion lawsuit against them, saying they’d scared away advertisers.
Sept. 1, 2023: Tens of thousands of X users began using the hashtag #BantheADL, accusing the organization of hindering free speech by demanding that social media platforms sanction neo-Nazis and other extremists who promote antisemitism, racism and other bigotry. Musk liked one of the posts. The ADL had previously called for advertisers to pause their spending on X.
August 18, 2023: The Auschwitz Memorial and Museum criticized Musk for rejecting the museum’s complaint about Holocaust deniers who tweet vitriolic, antisemitic messages.
June 8, 2023: Musk replied with laughing emojis to a tweet from Andrew Torba, the founder and CEO of far-right social media platform Gab. Torba is one of the most outspoken and unrepentant antisemites in the United States: in July 2022, he said on Gab TV: “This is a Christian nation. Christians outnumber you, by a lot. A lot. And we’re not gonna listen to 2%. You represent 2% of the country, OK? We’re not bending the knee to the 2% anymore.” Other antisemitic incidents have included accusing Jews of stifling freedom of speech, reposting claims to Gab that Jews seek to “psychologically and spiritually” castrate Americans, promoted the “great replacement theory” and stated that Jews like Ben Shapiro are “not welcome in the movement unless he repents and accepts Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior.”
June 7, 2023: Musk responded to an antisemitic tweet about adrenochrome and actor-director Mel Gibson. The tweet contrasted a photo of President Joe Biden with his eyes closed and Gibson — who once blamed all wars on Jews and whose father was a Holocaust denier — in a muscle-bearing tank top. The tweet implied that Biden uses adrenachrome, a chemical that, according to QAnon conspiracy theorists, is harvested by a shadowy cabal (often comprised of Jews) through the trafficking and sexual abuse of children. Gibson is praised for hating “the Js,” or Jews. Musk’s response was to admire Gibson’s physique.
May 29, 2023: Musk tweeted the quote, “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” The quote is often erroneously attributed to Voltaire but is from neo-Nazi Kevin Alfred Strom.
May 15, 2023: Musk compared George Soros, the billionaire philanthropist, to the X-Men comic book villain Magneto and followed up by saying Soros hates humanity. In X-Men canon, Magneto is, like Soros, a Holocaust survivor, an experience that leads him to work toward the destruction of humankind. The tweet earned an admonishment from Israel’s Foreign Ministry, which was later retracted.
A day later, after criticism from the Anti-Defamation League, Musk tweeted: The “ADL should drop the A.”
Jan. 24, 2023: Musk reinstated to Twitter Nick Fuentes, a live-streamer well-known for his antisemitic views, included repeated praise of Hitler. He was banned again soon after.
Dec. 22, 2022: Andrew Anglin, founder of the Daily Stormer, was reinstated to Twitter and immediately posted about Hitler. Anglin remained on the site until April, when he was banned again.
Dec. 19, 2022: Musk exchanged tweets with Kim Schmitz, a pioneer of online piracy who goes by Kim Dotcom and is known for bigoted views. Schmitz, who owns a copy of Mein Kampf signed by Hitler, has made comments in the past about Jews running Hollywood.
Dec. 12, 2022: Former Twitter employee Yoel Roth fled his home over safety concerns after a deluge of antisemitic threats sparked by repeated Musk criticism.
Nov. 27, 2022: Musk called Alexander Vindman, a decorated Jewish military veteran and witness against former President Donald Trump, “both puppet & puppeteer,” echoing white supremacist rhetoric about Jews and political power.
Nov. 22, 2022: Musk tweeted “stop defaming me” at the ADL, prompting an interaction that ended with disgraced rapper Kanye West, in the midst of a monthslong spree of antisemitic comments, saying “Shalom.”
Nov. 8, 2022: Musk posted a picture of a Nazi soldier in a tweet that now was later deleted.
October 2022: Musk welcomed West back to Twitter, then banned him again for “inciting violence” after West tweeted a photo of a logo that appeared to combine a Star of David with a swastika.
Feb. 17, 2022: Musk tweeted a meme comparing Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to Hitler; it was later deleted. The tweet sparked an indirect response from the United States Holocaust Museum admonishing Musk.
May 17, 2020: Musk tweeted “Take the Red Pill,” a phrase often associated with QAnon. The phrase is a reference to the film The Matrix, in which a red pill leads to awakening into the “real world” that is normally hidden. A reply by Ivanka Trump — then serving in the White House — saying “Taken!” garnered a reply from Lilly Wachowski, the co-director of the film, saying “F— both of you.”
May 26, 2018: During an interaction with NBC reporter Ben Collins, Musk tweeted, “Who do you think owns the press?” which many viewed as repeating an antisemitic trope about Jews. Musk followed up by saying anyone who thought it was antisemitic was revealing their “inner bigot.” |
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 9, 2025 1:07:46 GMT
Again, Cory Booker waving and Musk’s Nazi salute are not the same. It’s another whataboutism, false comparison and false equivalency. Musk never denied it, btw. This is the guy you’re defending www.reuters.com/world/musk-rallies-far-right-europe-tesla-is-paying-price-2025-03-04/LONDON, March 4 (Reuters) - For the past two months, tech billionaire Elon Musk has promoted Germany’s far-right party in at least two dozen posts on his X platform, interviewed its leader, and told his 219 million followers it was the country’s “only hopewww.nytimes.com/2025/02/24/world/europe/musk-afd-weidel-call.htmlS everal hours later, Mr. Musk did it again publicly, when he reposted on X a congratulatory note from Hungarian authoritarian leader Victor Orban with an added note that read: “Indeed, congratulations @alice_Weidel! At this rate of growth, @afd will be the majority party by the next election.”
Parts of the AfD, which campaigns on curbing irregular immigration, increasing deportations and improving the economy, have been classified as extremist by German domestic intelligence. But Vice President JD Vance met with Ms. Weidel earlier this month in Munich, after he shocked European leaders by telling them that mainstream parties should not exclude far-right factions like the AfD.
Mr. Musk made a splash in December when he publicly endorsed the AfD, first on X, his social media platform, and later in a 75-minute video conversation with Ms. Weidel that he hosted on X. In January, he tried once again to promote the party by calling into a raucous party meeting in Halle, where he encouraged the crowd to try to convince their neighbors, friends and family to vote for the AfD.
It was a very unusual public intervention by a foreign national and White House adviser in a German election, made all the more striking when Mr. Musk told AfD supporters that there was “too much of a focus on past guilt” in Germany
www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276084/elon-musk-german-far-right-afd-holocaustThe words we heard from the main actors of the AfD rally about 'Great Germany' and 'the need to forget German guilt for Nazi crimes' sounded all too familiar and ominous," tweeted Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk. "Especially only hours before the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz."
Musk's critics say Holocaust remembrance is about responsibility, not guilt
The Holocaust — during which Nazis murdered 6 million European Jews — remains a highly sensitive subject in Germany.
Its government has gone to great lengths to preserve and confront that history, including through thousands of memorials and museums, mandatory school curricula and strict laws prohibiting Holocaust denial and dissemination of Nazi propaganda.
Many of Musk's critics described his comments about "past guilt" as being at odds with Holocaust remembrance.
"Contrary to [Musk's] advice, the remembrance and acknowledgement of the dark past of the country and its people should be central in shaping the German society," tweeted Dani Dayan, the chair of Yad Vashem, the World Holocaust Remembrance Center located in Israel. "Failing to do so is an insult to the victims of Nazism and a clear danger to the democratic future of Germany |
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 9, 2025 2:02:25 GMT
Seriously? Hate to point out the obvious, but the idea that Cory Booker, a Black man, aligned with white supremacists or neo Nazis is absolutely ridiculous. No shit. The idea that Cory Booker waved, therefore Elon just waved, too, is equally ridiculous. Another false comparison and false equivalency. |
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Post by gar on Jun 9, 2025 7:25:33 GMT
The idea that Cory Booker waved, therefore Elon just waved, too, is equally ridiculous. Another false comparison and false equivalency. Really...just try and resist. We know the score with this poster, or you should do by now. You know exactly how it'll go and the futility of being logical and factual. Why waste your time, although yes, obviously you're free to do as you like. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 9, 2025 10:36:42 GMT
I have a lot of criticisms of the press, especially lately. But, in this case, they got it right. Musk was giving a Nazi salute based on his comments, support for white supremacists and the far right German party. Cory Booker was just waving. Nothing to report there. Anyone who thinks otherwise is grasping at straws, trying to deflect from the sh&tstorm of this administration, living in some alternate reality or brainwashed by right wing media and propaganda.
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Post by Merge on Jun 9, 2025 12:04:29 GMT
I have a lot of criticisms of the press, especially lately. But, in this case, they got it right. Musk was giving a Nazi salute based on his comments, support for white supremacists and the far right German party. Cory Booker was just waving. Nothing to report there. Anyone who thinks otherwise is grasping at straws, trying to deflect from the sh&tstorm of this administration, living in some alternate reality or brainwashed by right wing media and propaganda. Getting more desperate by the minute as it turns out we were right about every. damn. thing. this administration would do. We were dismissed as alarmist and told to calm down. Now that his supporters can see that we were right, that Kamala was right, that Hillary was right about everything, they're growing increasingly desperate to save face. Whataboutism - particularly when it's based on specious claims like the OP's - is the last resort of the pathetically desperate.
They elected an actual fascist bent on destroying this country, and they're desperate to turn people's attention anywhere but to that.
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Post by morecowbell on Jun 11, 2025 17:20:32 GMT
In case it wasn’t clear, here’s a list of Elon’s white supremacist and antisemitic comments. His Nazi salute taken in context with these comments, his support for the far right wing neo Nazi party in Germany and support for Holocaust deniers takes on an entirely different meaning than a wave from Cory Booker. Even if you believe the nonsense that it was a Roman salute, Trump’s white supremacist supporters took it exactly as it was intended, support for them. forward.com/news/550035/elon-musk-disturbing-comments-jews/
Elon Musk has made some disturbing comments about Jews. Here’s a list.
Elon Musk has long been accused of fostering hate speech, conspiracy theories and other bigotry and misinformation on X. When he bought the social media platform formerly known as Twitter in 2022, he fired most of the company’s engineers that were involved in moderating content, and reinstated many users who had been banned from the platform.
Musk has also made a number of disturbing comments himself, including promoting a QAnon conspiracy theory and antisemitism. He sometimes quotes Nazis and he has had chummy exchanges with avowed bigots. In addition, he’s clashed with the Anti-Defamation League, which has criticized him for permitting hate speech on X.
Since Musk’s acquisition, groups that track hate speech have documented spikes in racist, xenophobic and antisemitic activity on the platform.
Jan. 26, 2025: In a speech at a convention for Germany’s far-right AfD party, Musk tells the crowd of 4,500 people, “There is too much focus on past guilt” in the country “and we need to move beyond that. Children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents, let alone their great-grandparents.” He added that he believed the party could “preserve” and “protect” German culture, which he implied was facing a threat. “It’s good to be proud of German culture, German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything,” Musk said.
Jan. 23, 2025: Embroiled in controversy around a hand gesture he made that resembled a Nazi salute, Musk shared to X a post containing a series of Holocaust puns. “Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations!” Musk wrote. “Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that comin.”
Jan. 20, 2025: Musk appears to do a Nazi salute twice on stage while giving a speech at Trump’s inauguration. Facing an onslaught of criticism for the gesture, Musk does not clarify its meaning, but writes on X several hours later, “The ‘everyone is Hitler’ attack is sooo tired.”
Sep. 3, 2024: Musk posts a video clip of a podcaster named Darryl Cooper telling Tucker Carlson that millions of people died during the Holocaust not because Nazi Germany had any desire to exterminate Jews and other ethnic minorities, but rather because Adolf Hitler went into World War II without a plan for how to house and feed prisoners. Musk commented, “Very interesting. Worth watching,” in resharing the post to his 196 million X followers. He later deleted the post.
May 2, 2024: Musk reinstated the X account of Nick Fuentes, the Holocaust denier and antisemite who has said “perfidious Jews” should be executed. “It is better to have anti whatever out in the open to be rebutted,” Musk wrote, “than grow simmering in the darkness.”
March 18, 2024: In an interview with Don Lemon, Musk downplayed his past antisemitic comments. “If I quote something, it doesn’t mean I agree with anything and everything in it,” Musk said. “It’s just that I think this is something people should consider.” Lemon pressed Musk about a 2023 study that showed that antisemitic posts doubled since Musk took control of the platform in October 2022. Another report found that 86% of the posts reported for hateful content remained up. “If nobody reads it, it doesn’t matter,” Musk argued, separating between the number of antisemitic posts and the views the content received.
Jan. 22, 2024: After years of criticism from the Jewish community, Musk visited Auschwitz, where he said that had social media been around at the time, the Holocaust “would have been impossible to hide.” (Word of the camps did get out at the time of the Holocaust, but many chose to ignore it. Holocaust scholars say Musk’s “fantasy scenario” is far-fetched.)
Nov. 15, 2023: On a post that invoked the “great replacement theory,” accusing Jews of “flooding their country” with “hordes of minorities,” Musk replied to a user “You have said the actual truth.” Major corporations, including Apple and Disney, pulled their ads from the platform.
Sept. 4, 2023: White supremacist Nick Fuentes, on his America First livestream, applauded Musk’s engagement with a #BantheADL campaign on Twitter, including Musk having “tweeted 28 times in just the last 24 hours about this campaign.”
Sept. 4, 2023: Musk accused the ADL of being the “biggest generators of anti-Semitism” on Twitter and threatened a $4 billion lawsuit against them, saying they’d scared away advertisers.
Sept. 1, 2023: Tens of thousands of X users began using the hashtag #BantheADL, accusing the organization of hindering free speech by demanding that social media platforms sanction neo-Nazis and other extremists who promote antisemitism, racism and other bigotry. Musk liked one of the posts. The ADL had previously called for advertisers to pause their spending on X.
August 18, 2023: The Auschwitz Memorial and Museum criticized Musk for rejecting the museum’s complaint about Holocaust deniers who tweet vitriolic, antisemitic messages.
June 8, 2023: Musk replied with laughing emojis to a tweet from Andrew Torba, the founder and CEO of far-right social media platform Gab. Torba is one of the most outspoken and unrepentant antisemites in the United States: in July 2022, he said on Gab TV: “This is a Christian nation. Christians outnumber you, by a lot. A lot. And we’re not gonna listen to 2%. You represent 2% of the country, OK? We’re not bending the knee to the 2% anymore.” Other antisemitic incidents have included accusing Jews of stifling freedom of speech, reposting claims to Gab that Jews seek to “psychologically and spiritually” castrate Americans, promoted the “great replacement theory” and stated that Jews like Ben Shapiro are “not welcome in the movement unless he repents and accepts Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior.”
June 7, 2023: Musk responded to an antisemitic tweet about adrenochrome and actor-director Mel Gibson. The tweet contrasted a photo of President Joe Biden with his eyes closed and Gibson — who once blamed all wars on Jews and whose father was a Holocaust denier — in a muscle-bearing tank top. The tweet implied that Biden uses adrenachrome, a chemical that, according to QAnon conspiracy theorists, is harvested by a shadowy cabal (often comprised of Jews) through the trafficking and sexual abuse of children. Gibson is praised for hating “the Js,” or Jews. Musk’s response was to admire Gibson’s physique.
May 29, 2023: Musk tweeted the quote, “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” The quote is often erroneously attributed to Voltaire but is from neo-Nazi Kevin Alfred Strom.
May 15, 2023: Musk compared George Soros, the billionaire philanthropist, to the X-Men comic book villain Magneto and followed up by saying Soros hates humanity. In X-Men canon, Magneto is, like Soros, a Holocaust survivor, an experience that leads him to work toward the destruction of humankind. The tweet earned an admonishment from Israel’s Foreign Ministry, which was later retracted.
A day later, after criticism from the Anti-Defamation League, Musk tweeted: The “ADL should drop the A.”
Jan. 24, 2023: Musk reinstated to Twitter Nick Fuentes, a live-streamer well-known for his antisemitic views, included repeated praise of Hitler. He was banned again soon after.
Dec. 22, 2022: Andrew Anglin, founder of the Daily Stormer, was reinstated to Twitter and immediately posted about Hitler. Anglin remained on the site until April, when he was banned again.
Dec. 19, 2022: Musk exchanged tweets with Kim Schmitz, a pioneer of online piracy who goes by Kim Dotcom and is known for bigoted views. Schmitz, who owns a copy of Mein Kampf signed by Hitler, has made comments in the past about Jews running Hollywood.
Dec. 12, 2022: Former Twitter employee Yoel Roth fled his home over safety concerns after a deluge of antisemitic threats sparked by repeated Musk criticism.
Nov. 27, 2022: Musk called Alexander Vindman, a decorated Jewish military veteran and witness against former President Donald Trump, “both puppet & puppeteer,” echoing white supremacist rhetoric about Jews and political power.
Nov. 22, 2022: Musk tweeted “stop defaming me” at the ADL, prompting an interaction that ended with disgraced rapper Kanye West, in the midst of a monthslong spree of antisemitic comments, saying “Shalom.”
Nov. 8, 2022: Musk posted a picture of a Nazi soldier in a tweet that now was later deleted.
October 2022: Musk welcomed West back to Twitter, then banned him again for “inciting violence” after West tweeted a photo of a logo that appeared to combine a Star of David with a swastika.
Feb. 17, 2022: Musk tweeted a meme comparing Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to Hitler; it was later deleted. The tweet sparked an indirect response from the United States Holocaust Museum admonishing Musk.
May 17, 2020: Musk tweeted “Take the Red Pill,” a phrase often associated with QAnon. The phrase is a reference to the film The Matrix, in which a red pill leads to awakening into the “real world” that is normally hidden. A reply by Ivanka Trump — then serving in the White House — saying “Taken!” garnered a reply from Lilly Wachowski, the co-director of the film, saying “F— both of you.”
May 26, 2018: During an interaction with NBC reporter Ben Collins, Musk tweeted, “Who do you think owns the press?” which many viewed as repeating an antisemitic trope about Jews. Musk followed up by saying anyone who thought it was antisemitic was revealing their “inner bigot.”That's exactly what I'm talking about. Not a single example you've given is a complete quote from musk. Why is that? In fact, the actual quote, in complete context is never included. And none of them prove your accusation. In fact some of them even contradict it. There are nothing but insinuations, convoluted, twisted correlations, individual PORTIONS of sentences offered, or even just individual WORDS quoted in many cases. Words pulled from what he has actually said, paired with guided thoughts on exactly what they want you to think he meant with those words or emojis. The same thing could be done with Cory Booker, but it would be just as meaningless. |
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Post by dawnnikol on Jun 11, 2025 17:38:17 GMT
When Historians come out and say Booker is a Nazi, I’ll believe them. Just like how they’re saying Leon did a Nazi salute and supports far right extremists: like the Nazis.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 11, 2025 18:13:20 GMT
Can't believe you're still defending him. Maybe you didn't hear he split with the Orange menace The majority of the examples are posts from twitter. If you click on the link posted earlier, it takes you to screen shots of his tweets or links to the tweets. Very little room for misinformation or misquotes there. In those cases, his full post was included, nothing let out. forward.com/news/550035/elon-musk-disturbing-comments-jews/www.npr.org/2025/01/23/nx-s1-5269719/elon-musk-salute-inauguration-day-nazisAs the debate continues about what billionaire Trump ally Elon Musk intended when he made straight-arm gestures at an inauguration event, Musk posted a series of Nazi-themed puns on Thursday to his more than 200 million followers on X, the social media platform he owns.
"Don't say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down!" Musk wrote, referencing the names of prominent German Nazis.
Musk didn't respond to a request for comment. In a Monday night X post, he called the uproar Democratic "dirty tricks" and added, "The 'everyone is Hitler' attack is sooo tired."
By Thursday morning, Musk had shifted into joke mode. In addition to his Nazi puns, he ridiculed "radical leftists" who can't take a joke and posted: "When I see the troll emoji, it's like looking in the mirror."
www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276084/elon-musk-german-far-right-afd-holocaust
On Saturday, Musk spoke repeatedly about the importance of Germans taking pride in their heritage.
"It's good to be proud of German culture and German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything," Musk said.
Then, in an apparent reference to the Nazi era, Musk added that there is "frankly too much of a focus on past guilt and we need to move beyond that."
"Children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents, let alone their parents, their great-grandparents," he said as the crowd applauded. |
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Post by morecowbell on Jun 11, 2025 18:42:39 GMT
When Historians come out and say Booker is a Nazi, I’ll believe them. Just like how they’re saying Leon did a Nazi salute and supports far right extremists: like the Nazis. And the ADL says it wasn't. "It seems that Elon Musk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute." When he placed his hand over his heart and says: "My heart goes out to you. It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured." His actual words more than likely tell you what he was saying and HIS actual intent of the hand movement. As does his disagreement with the accusation. If he was that blatantly, as you say giving a Nazi salute and he was not hiding it, he wouldn't be denying that it was a Nazi salute. But the bottom line is that the only one that knows the intent behind it, is the one with the intent. |
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Post by dawnnikol on Jun 11, 2025 22:00:42 GMT
When Historians come out and say Booker is a Nazi, I’ll believe them. Just like how they’re saying Leon did a Nazi salute and supports far right extremists: like the Nazis. And the ADL says it wasn't. "It seems that Elon Musk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute." When he placed his hand over his heart and says: "My heart goes out to you. It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured." His actual words more than likely tell you what he was saying and HIS actual intent of the hand movement. As does his disagreement with the accusation. If he was that blatantly, as you say giving a Nazi salute and he was not hiding it, he wouldn't be denying that it was a Nazi salute. But the bottom line is that the only one that knows the intent behind it, is the one with the intent. Here's the thing, if *I* had been accused of doing something like that. I might issue an actual apology. Do you know how Leon responded? Clever. |
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Post by morecowbell on Jun 12, 2025 12:23:03 GMT
And the ADL says it wasn't. "It seems that Elon Musk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute." When he placed his hand over his heart and says: "My heart goes out to you. It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured." His actual words more than likely tell you what he was saying and HIS actual intent of the hand movement. As does his disagreement with the accusation. If he was that blatantly, as you say giving a Nazi salute and he was not hiding it, he wouldn't be denying that it was a Nazi salute. But the bottom line is that the only one that knows the intent behind it, is the one with the intent. Here's the thing, if *I* had been accused of doing something like that. I might issue an actual apology. Do you know how Leon responded? Clever. You conveniently left out: "Frankly, they need better dirty tricks. The 'everyone is Hitler' attack is sooo tired." Doesn't help your narrative, at all. Does it? The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) came out in Musk's defense. The organization, known for fighting anti-Semitism and hatred of Jews. The Independent said "Nothing in the billionaire's speech that directly pointed to fascism and Nazism." X's Hate Speech Policy: X's policy prohibits hateful conduct, including hateful imagery like the Nazi swastika, and defines what constitutes a violation. The policy states that it will take action against accounts targeting individuals or groups based on protected categories with hateful conduct. But of course continue pushing the narrative of a man yelling “My heart goes out to you” while grabbing at his heart and enthusiastically making tossing gestures is 'literally Hitler'. Clever. |
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Post by dawnnikol on Jun 12, 2025 15:53:59 GMT
You conveniently left out: "Frankly, they need better dirty tricks. The 'everyone is Hitler' attack is sooo tired." Doesn't help your narrative, at all. Does it? The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) came out in Musk's defense. The organization, known for fighting anti-Semitism and hatred of Jews. The Independent said "Nothing in the billionaire's speech that directly pointed to fascism and Nazism." X's Hate Speech Policy: X's policy prohibits hateful conduct, including hateful imagery like the Nazi swastika, and defines what constitutes a violation. The policy states that it will take action against accounts targeting individuals or groups based on protected categories with hateful conduct. But of course continue pushing the narrative of a man yelling “My heart goes out to you” while grabbing at his heart and enthusiastically making tossing gestures is 'literally Hitler'. Clever. That does not explain why he did not issue an apology if that's not what he meant? As far as "X's Hate Speech Policy", you do realize who owns Twitter, right? His own AI says he spreads misinformation. Regarding "the ADL defending Musk", not everyone is happy about that based on their own definition of a "nazi salute": JTA.This could go on all day. You want to believe he didn't do a Nazi salute, doesn't defend Nazis, and wants nothing to do with that ideology. Great. You are welcome to that opinion. You can keep saying "the left" this and "the left" that. Anybody who sympathizes or supports Nazis or their beliefs is disgusting and if *I* was being accused of being a Nazi, I would do things to counter that narrative. It's cool that a Billionaire doesn't have to do that. |
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Post by morecowbell on Jun 14, 2025 0:24:56 GMT
You conveniently left out: "Frankly, they need better dirty tricks. The 'everyone is Hitler' attack is sooo tired." Doesn't help your narrative, at all. Does it? The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) came out in Musk's defense. The organization, known for fighting anti-Semitism and hatred of Jews. The Independent said "Nothing in the billionaire's speech that directly pointed to fascism and Nazism." X's Hate Speech Policy: X's policy prohibits hateful conduct, including hateful imagery like the Nazi swastika, and defines what constitutes a violation. The policy states that it will take action against accounts targeting individuals or groups based on protected categories with hateful conduct. But of course continue pushing the narrative of a man yelling “My heart goes out to you” while grabbing at his heart and enthusiastically making tossing gestures is 'literally Hitler'. Clever. That does not explain why he did not issue an apology if that's not what he meant? As far as "X's Hate Speech Policy", you do realize who owns Twitter, right? His own AI says he spreads misinformation. Regarding "the ADL defending Musk", not everyone is happy about that based on their own definition of a "nazi salute": JTA.This could go on all day. You want to believe he didn't do a Nazi salute, doesn't defend Nazis, and wants nothing to do with that ideology. Great. You are welcome to that opinion. You can keep saying "the left" this and "the left" that. Anybody who sympathizes or supports Nazis or their beliefs is disgusting and if *I* was being accused of being a Nazi, I would do things to counter that narrative. It's cool that a Billionaire doesn't have to do that. I don't blame him one bit for not apologizing to people who are committed to demonizing anything and everything you do, like it's their job. The same people who repeatedly remove context from Trump statements in order to pretend Trump said something terrible. Just in one they ignored where he said the actual words that debunk the accusation, in another they didn't include even the full sentence they're focusing on, clipping off the part of the sentence that debunks the accusation. Just those 2 alone shows how dishonest their accusations are. To apologize for such dishonesty from your accuser would be absurd. That said, you demand he apologize, but where's your demand on Booker's apology? I don't believe either man needs to apologize for such an absurd accusation, but since you do... And the only reason the absurd "accusation" came to Booker was that they simply applied the exact same standards to Booker as were applied to Musk. If it applies to one side, it applies to both. To do otherwise, makes you a hypocrite. So, a man yelling “My heart goes out to you” while grabbing at his heart and making tossing gestures is not a Nazi or a sympathizer just because he was more enthusiastic when doing so than the other one. That's nothing but justifying dishonest demonization. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 14, 2025 2:29:21 GMT
Musk and his mother support apartheid ...
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