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Post by Neisey on Jun 18, 2025 23:12:37 GMT
We are in Canada so real estate processes might be a bit different.
DD26 is just finishing her first year of teaching. She has always been a great worker, often working 2-3 jobs so has a good down payment saved and does not like paying rent with no return. She is anxious to get on the property ladder.
She has put offers on 3 starter houses and all have had multiple offers and since she is going in near her best offer limit she cannot compete. She is not frustrated as she understands how the market works and is learning lots in the process.
Last night she put an offer in that was a small amount over asking. Again, multiple offers but she was tied for best offer and so was asked to submit her new best offer, which she did by adding a few thousand dollars. The sellers countered back to her with a price 30k OVER her new best offer. She had included a well written letter explaining her wish to become a homeowner, just starting out, blah, blah, blah. I get that sellers can do whatever they want but I’m not sure how they could think she might be able to come up with 30k more!
My younger DD24 lives in one of Canada’s most expensive housing markets. What DD26 is offering 350K for here would be 1.35M in DD24’s city. I don’t know how young people are ever going to be able to get on the property ladder. And my kids are both single so no one to combine earnings with.
Do you have kids looking to purchase their first homes? How is it going!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 18, 2025 23:55:49 GMT
It is becoming more difficult as time passes...
Or
A fixer upper..
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Post by Zee on Jun 19, 2025 0:02:24 GMT
I think I will have to die and leave my property in order for them to be able to buy a house.
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Post by valincal on Jun 19, 2025 0:04:41 GMT
DS1 and DIL have great jobs and savings but we helped them out. I feel bad for young people trying to get into the housing market.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 19, 2025 0:14:00 GMT
DS bought a house last year at $12k over asking. There was an offer $9k over that, but the sellers turned that one down in favor of ds. The trick was to look for a house well under his upper limit. The sellers chose him because he scheduled his showing just before their open house, took us back the next day, and his realtor was in constant contact with theirs. They knew he wanted to make it his home. We all felt that the person who overbid him wanted it for a rental and they didnt want that.
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Post by voltagain on Jun 19, 2025 0:28:53 GMT
It is becoming more difficult as time passes... Or A fixer upper.. A lot of entry home owners are priced out of fixer uppers by the flipper market. The new hopefuls aren't competing against other lower wage earners looking to buy their first home. They are competing against people using real estate as their hustle/side hustle. I know the house I was living in I was getting weekly ads (mail and texts) from companies wanting to make an offer on my house which was not up for sale and I didn't own.
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Post by seaexplore on Jun 19, 2025 0:37:23 GMT
Dh and I bought a lot in a podunk town for $29k in 1999 when we were 25. We build a house ourselves with a construction loan and sweat equity. After 2 years, we took out a line of credit and bought another lot for $48k. Got another construction loan and built another house. Sold the first and fully paid off the second. Took a line of credit on the second which became a mortgage in 2014.
There is ZERO way my own kids will be able to purchase in the podunk rural town we live in. We will have to give them this house or help them or they will have to leave California.
We ended up where we live because we could not afford to buy in the Bay Area, where I grew up.
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Post by Bobomommy on Jun 19, 2025 0:53:36 GMT
What is happening in my town is corporations are buying land and building mid-priced homes. They have no intention of selling any of the homes. They are built as rental properties. The corporations are also buying up homes in other neighborhoods and renting them. It has made it very difficult for young families to buy their own home. I have wondered if there will come a time when home ownership is extremely rare.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 19, 2025 0:58:39 GMT
Is your son in the CRD? You know what that means and an easy starter home costs that much here. Kind of unreal. My kids bought a new townhouse and didn’t want to do yard work. Theirs was <$1M which was great. Mine is way up there are we live only 3 blocks away (3 min by car).
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Post by melanell on Jun 19, 2025 0:59:46 GMT
In my area it is exceedingly difficult to buy a "starter house". When smaller and/or houses in need of work hit the market they go into pending status almost immediately. A great number are going to investors to be either flipped or with increasing frequency, made into rentals.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 19, 2025 1:01:17 GMT
Also my son negotiated until 2am because they wanted that area and property. We were so happy they found something so close to us. I am so relieved and happy.
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Post by paget on Jun 19, 2025 1:05:46 GMT
My dds are both anomalies in this area - and very fortunate. They were both able to purchase great condos in our Seattle area housing market on their own. Youngest dd was 23 when she bought hers. We didn’t need to help. What worked for them was first having high paying jobs (they are both software developers) and not having any college debt. They were able to save for their own down payments. I seriously don’t know how younger people are managing now. It’s pretty scary.
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Post by Neisey on Jun 19, 2025 1:06:11 GMT
It is becoming more difficult as time passes... Or A fixer upper.. A lot of entry home owners are priced out of fixer uppers by the flipper market. The new hopefuls aren't competing against other lower wage earners looking to buy their first home. They are competing against people using real estate as their hustle/side hustle. I know the house I was living in I was getting weekly ads (mail and texts) from companies wanting to make an offer on my house which was not up for sale and I didn't own. Yes, she’s considered houses that have seen hard living and need repairs and upgrades, to totally flipped homes. One of the problems here is that she is in a military town that is one of Canada’s lowest prices for entry level homes. People moving here are often military members posted here from more expensive areas so sellers here are increasing their prices because even higher prices are well below what these prople sold for in other provinces.
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Post by Neisey on Jun 19, 2025 1:10:49 GMT
Is your son in the CRD? You know what that means and an easy starter home costs that much here. Kind of unreal. My kids bought a new townhouse and didn’t want to do yard work. Theirs was <$1M which was great. Mine is way up there are we live only 3 blocks away (3 min by car). Yes, she is in the CRD…and loves it! Glad your kids found a “reasonably” priced home near by.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jun 19, 2025 1:26:41 GMT
Living in the Bay Area, our DS knew he would never be able to buy a house unless he did several things: live with us while he went to college in the Bay Area. Work part-time all during college and save every penny. He was able to buy a townhouse that had tenants and he let them live there for two more years. When we moved up here he moved in the townhouse and it has appreciated nicely for him. He's got a great job but with the current prices, he would have a hard time buying a house now.
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Post by lg on Jun 19, 2025 1:41:11 GMT
We live in the highest priced property to income market in the world - Sydney Australia. No chance my kids will own a home but they have the benefit of our fully owned house and a grandparents fully owned house (ie one each) if they are willing to play the waiting game.
A regular house down the road from us (we live an hour out of Sydney) just sold for 1.6 million. 4 bed 2 bath 2 car spaces on a 600 square m block.
How could you ever afford a 20% down payment to avoid extra fees on a house priced like that when an average wage is $70,000 ish???
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Post by Neisey on Jun 19, 2025 1:52:24 GMT
We live in the highest priced property to income market in the world - Sydney Australia. No chance my kids will own a home but they have the benefit of our fully owned house and a grandparents fully owned house (ie one each) if they are willing to play the waiting game. A regular house down the road from us (we live an hour out of Sydney) just sold for 1.6 million. 4 bed 2 bath 2 car spaces on a 600 square m block. How could you ever afford a 20% down payment to avoid extra fees on a house priced like that when an average wage is $70,000 ish??? I know, I’m commiserating with my DD’s experience and we literally live in one of the least expensive markets in Canada. I cannot imagine the struggles those of you in these high priced markets face.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 19, 2025 2:16:43 GMT
Is your son in the CRD? You know what that means and an easy starter home costs that much here. Kind of unreal. My kids bought a new townhouse and didn’t want to do yard work. Theirs was <$1M which was great. Mine is way up there are we live only 3 blocks away (3 min by car). Yes, she is in the CRD…and loves it! Glad your kids found a “reasonably” priced home near by. How can she not love living here. I would never leave. It doesn’t rain enough in summer but we get plenty in winter.
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Post by Linda on Jun 19, 2025 2:31:11 GMT
We only bought our first 'real' house in 2020 - we had mobile homes on land prior - and only because my mother died and I inherited half of what her house sold for AND because DH was VA loan eligible - fwiw we turned 50 in 2020. TBH though - my parents were 58 and 47 when they owned their first house (1983) and it was inherited from my mum's aunt.
DS33 bought his first house within a few weeks of us - in a different housing market. His house is half the square footage of ours and is on a city lot whereas we're on a double lot (1.3 acres) but both houses were the same price. He's active duty enlisted and VA loan eligible and his housing allowance covers the mortgage payment - plus he has no college debt. DD25 lives with him - she hasn't successfully entered the workforce yet so home ownership is far in her future.
it's hard.
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Post by ntsf on Jun 19, 2025 2:48:45 GMT
my son is mostly counting on inheriting our house. my daughter and her wife bought in new zealand.. with some help from her parents, from us and the structure is more favorable there to use pensions and stuff to get you into market.. this was 2018.. the market is very hard.
I live in san francisco.. so it would be super difficult for my son to buy here.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 19, 2025 3:03:43 GMT
Mine bought in 2018 and 2020. Neither one had a bidding war at the time. I think she just needs to keep at it. It must be so frustrating.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 19, 2025 5:12:58 GMT
My DD will inherit property that she can either live in or sell. We’re also working on setting her up with an investment account soon that we/she can add to annually so it can grow until she is an adult and can manage it herself. Neisey could your kids pool their resources for now and buy one house together that they can both live in until they build some equity, then use the first house as leverage for a second? That is kind of what some neighbors did at our old house in the city. A guy bought our neighbor’s house so that his two college aged kids could live close to their respective campuses. The older one was finishing medical school and the younger one was an undergrad at a different school. The kids both lived there and made the payments together, building equity. The older one graduated and finished his residency, he got married and stayed in the house. The younger one graduated and shortly afterward moved somewhere else around the same time the older one got married. Or what about starting off with a condo or townhouse, live in that for a while to build some equity and then trading up to a single family home later on? That’s what my niece and her husband did here. Actually, I believe her DH bought the townhouse with his dad as a co-signer when he was still in college and I think he owned that place for maybe 7-8 years. They sold the townhouse and bought a single family home when they needed more space for their growing family.
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Post by ladyinpink1969 on Jun 19, 2025 7:43:15 GMT
I completely agree, it is hard for kids out there. I take that back. I think it’s hard for a lot of people. In the early 90’s, my brother was a Marine stationed in Okinawa, Japan. He was invited to have dinner with a local family and they said in order to afford a house, they had to take out a 90 year mortgage. Yes, a 90 year mortgage! Can you imagine taking over a mortgage that your grandparents had? The thought is mind blowing. I’m not sure if it is still that way in Japan. I often wonder if that might happen in the US. Recently, I’ve heard of 40 year mortgages. FWIW I’m in the Seattle area.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jun 19, 2025 10:40:18 GMT
My son will inherit my house. If he wanted something before the time comes, a couple of years ago, I bought the small piece of land next to my house, he could build a tiny house.
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Post by cakediva on Jun 19, 2025 11:46:19 GMT
Yep - middle DD and her fiance have decided they are fine with renting for the rest of their lives. Unless something drastically changes, the chances of them getting a home are becoming slimmer by the year.
Between the high cost of rent around here (I think they are at $2400 a month for a 1 bed with a loft & garage for their car) and the high housing costs? Sure, mortgage payment would likely be around what they pay for rent. But how are they to save for a down payment? They'd need $100,000 to buy a decent home in this area that isn't a fixer upper.
So if they rent, should anything go wrong with appliances, wiring, plumbing, anything like that, it's on the landlord and not them.
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Post by Tearisci on Jun 19, 2025 11:50:51 GMT
My DS and his husband were living in DC in an apartment and wanted to buy a home. They ended up in Manassas which is about 30 miles out of the city because they could afford to buy there. DSIL commutes into DC by train and DS works from home most of the time but also has to commute to Quantico a couple of times a week.
They sacrificed location for homeownership and feel good about their decision.
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 19, 2025 11:57:17 GMT
My DS bought a house with his then wife in 2007, when all you had to do was apply and be approved for a mortgage. He also got first time home buyer assistance with the down payment.
My DD wanted a single family home, but when interest rates were rising in 2022/2023 it affected her purchasing power. She ended up in a fixer townhouse. She is single, in her early 40s. She had to scrimp for years and had a spreadsheet of all expenses planned out to save for a house.
I loaned her the money to replace the furnace and A/C. I also gave her what her late father and I would have contributed to a wedding, if she had married.
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Post by ~summer~ on Jun 19, 2025 13:36:45 GMT
My kids are in their early 20s in the Bay Area. My oldest is in San Francisco with his girlfriend (the rental market here is on fire - but they found a screaming deal on a place in Russian Hill with views of the Golden Gate Bridge from every room) - I’d guess it will be 10 years before they buy. No idea about the other 2. I could see them buying out of state.
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Post by quinlove on Jun 19, 2025 14:02:29 GMT
My dd, who has been an elementary teacher for over 25 years, horrifying ex, kids are grown and flown , single, just bought a brand new tiny home. It is absolutely adorable. She bought it mainly because she wanted out of the suburban subdivisions. She’s loves nature, gardens, hiking, etc. She will own it outright in 5 years. Got a 5 year loan on brand new. She rents the land. Her plan is to retire from teaching in 5 years and move the tiny home to another location. Although it’s in a pretty nice, rural location. There are other new tiny homes situated on very large, rural lots. She paid just under $100,000.
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Post by monklady123 on Jun 19, 2025 15:11:17 GMT
It's pretty bad here in Northern Virginia. My dd had to move south in order to afford even to rent an apartment of the size she wanted (1 bedroom plus den, because she was working from home at the time). Then she lost her job because of trump's USAID massacre. She's found a new one but it's 20k less per year than her old one. She'll probably have to find a new apartment, and it will be a long time before she'll be able to ever buy a condo or house, if ever, unless she moves again to some small rural town.
Ds moved to rural Georgia, plus has a partner who already owned a small house. And since it's small and rural the mortgage isn't unreasonable.
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