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Post by scraphappy0501 on Jun 19, 2025 16:24:53 GMT
Our DDs are in their late 20s/early 30s. When older DD got married in 2013 the rent in their college town for a one bedroom apartment was more than a mortgage payment on a 3 bed/2.5 bath townhouse with a 2 car garage! She and DSIL had enough money for a down payment on a home but since DSIL worked doing summer sales his income wasn't considered "steady". They had enough money to cover the cost of the mortgage payment so DH and I co-signed on their mortgage to help them get into the housing market. We knew we'd be able to cover their mortgage if for some reason they couldn't make the payment but they never once asked for our help. They've since paid off that mortgage and turned the townhouse into a rental property. Their second townhouse they bought after college now also is a rental property. They currently own a house with a mortgage. Without DH's and my help they wouldn't be able to own two rental properties and a house.
Younger DD and her DH live in a house that DSIL's parent's helped him buy right out of college by co-signing on the mortgage. DSIL rented out part of the house when he was just starting his career and once my DD moved in with him he stopped having renters and she contributed to the mortgage. They are now in a financial position where they can afford a larger mortgage and will likely keep their current house as a rental property when they move to a new home. Without DSIL's parents' help they likely still would be trying to buy their first home.
All of this to say, it took help from parents for my DDs and their spouses to be able to get into home ownership. Timing also helped them get to the position they are in today. They got into the housing market prior to 2020. The housing market in Utah really started taking off after Covid and prices now are significantly higher than when they purchased their first homes. DH and I built a custom home in 2019 and it is now worth more than 50% more than we paid for it. And we're not in a particularly "hot" housing area compared to areas closer to Salt Lake City. To be honest I don't know if they'd be able to get into the housing market today without parents' help even as they are more established in their careers.
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Post by flanz on Jun 19, 2025 17:08:35 GMT
Yep - middle DD and her fiance have decided they are fine with renting for the rest of their lives. Unless something drastically changes, the chances of them getting a home are becoming slimmer by the year. Between the high cost of rent around here (I think they are at $2400 a month for a 1 bed with a loft & garage for their car) and the high housing costs? Sure, mortgage payment would likely be around what they pay for rent. But how are they to save for a down payment? They'd need $100,000 to buy a decent home in this area that isn't a fixer upper. So if they rent, should anything go wrong with appliances, wiring, plumbing, anything like that, it's on the landlord and not them. I think a great many single and partnered people have come to the same conclusion. Our DS and his partner are both very happy to be paying low rent and living in a house with one other couple and a single person. They are adventurers who don't spend a lot of time at home, have a large enough suite in the basement of the house with their own bathroom and share the kitchen and living areas upstairs as well as a huge yard. Had we had a crystal ball, we would have helped DS buy a home 10-12 yrs ago when he settled in that part of B.C. Housing prices seem to have tripled since then and very old houses are close to $1million.
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Post by Neisey on Jun 19, 2025 21:59:03 GMT
Neisey could your kids pool their resources for now and buy one house together that they can both live in until they build some equity, then use the first house as leverage for a second? Well, besides the fact that they have careers on opposite coasts, they had a falling out a few years ago and currently don’t speak. Even if they were on good terms they have such different personalities and styles of living that I can’t really see that happening lol! I do know people that have followed this type of Plan successfully.
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Post by 16joy on Jun 19, 2025 23:21:38 GMT
My single daughter bought her place 6 years ago with no help from us. She doesn't want to give up <3% loan, but has started to think about a larger place.
My son is single and in an apt. His occupation has him away for 45 days or 2 week intervals several times a year and he doesn't have to worry about an unknown broken pipe while away, etc. It suits his current lifestyle. He'll buy a house once this phase of his life is over.
They both like to watch their investments and retirement grow.
I do think a lot of people like the flexibility that comes with renting. Younger people seem to change jobs more frequently than in my day and it suits their current life.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jun 20, 2025 3:26:16 GMT
My 27yo DD and her partner bought a house when they were 25yo. They are both ridiculously good savers, and had a really good deposit of $200k+ ($40k of that was a small inheritance from her partner's grandparents). They kept getting outbid at auction, and finally managed to buy a house for $830k. House prices are INSANE! (It's almost impossible to believe that I bought my bigger house on a bigger block in a nicer area for just $159k the year before she was born! I wish my salary had gone up at the same rate as house prices.  ) My 20yo son on the other hand is a terrible saver. I can't see how he will ever be able to buy a house. He's an apprentice carpenter, so I guess he'll have to buy a block of land out in the sticks and build one himself. My friend and I were talking about this topic just this morning. I said to her that it always annoys me when people brag about how much the value of their house has gone up since they bought it. Yeah, that's all well and good, but when it comes time to sell, you still have to buy something else that's going to be ridiculously over-priced. And I hope you like having your adult kids living at home with you, because they won't be able to afford to buy a house at these prices!
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on Jun 20, 2025 10:22:06 GMT
DD1 (31) bought a townhouse in Richmond almost 2 years ago. We told her she could have her “wedding fund” to help with the down payment. Fortunately, she had no student loans, which is one of the huge barriers stopping many young people from qualifying for a mortgage.
She is a great “saver” and had an emergency fund saved above the down payment, which came in when she lost her job about 6 months after the home purchase. When she found another job at a lower salary, the budget was tight, but she could still manage the payments. She left that job in less than a year due to toxic new management that appeared to be heading toward closing her location. She followed the advice of “it’s easier to find a job if you already have a job” and landed in a great position with a company with long-term stability. She could afford to move into a bigger house with her new salary, but she loves the location of her townhouse and likes the low-maintenance freedom of a townhome.
DD2 (26)is in Chicago, and she has no desire to buy. She likes living in the city and is not interested in moving to the burbs. She makes good money, but not “buy-a-condo-in-downtown-Chicago” money. Listing prices for Chicago condos look reasonable until you look at the HOA fees and property taxes and realize just how high the monthly payment would be. She prefers to rent and retain the flexibility of being mortgage-free and not having her money tied up in home equity that she may or may not be able to access if she needs it. She knows there is a good possibility she will have to relocate when she is promoted, and she doesn’t want the headache or stress of selling when that happens. However, she has the “wedding fund” offer on the table when she is ready.
DD3 (26) lives at home while working and finishing her degree. She may never move out bc she has it pretty good here! She doesn’t make anywhere near the money her sisters do right now, but her “rent” is cheap here so she is saving as much as possible. If and when she is ready to move out on her own, we will make the same wedding fund offer.
DD1 was just turning 30 when we helped her with a down payment. We will gift the same amount to the twins when they turn 30 if they haven’t used it for a down payment or wedding by then. While DD1 would have loved an extravagant wedding, neither of the twins is interested in that type of event, so I know they will take the money if offered LOL.
We are happy to help the girls while we can see them out the money to good use. I don’t think DD1 would have a house yet if we hadn’t helped her, and I’m glad she bought before prices went up later that year. She is in a great location, and a realtor friend of ours in the area said she could probably sell for about $40k more than she paid. She spent about $10k on some improvements, but she wouldn’t lose any money on her home if she sold now, even after commission.
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Post by smasonnc on Jun 20, 2025 12:48:15 GMT
DS and his wife lived in a rental while they looked for a house in an in town Atlanta. They paid 650k for a tiny, beat up historic home that had been converted to a duplex. They were outbid, but were asked for a letter explaining why they wanted the house and got it.
They gutted it until there were only four walls and some brick work and added a second floor. Because of the pandemic, it took three years to complete. They have good jobs, are good with money, have no college loans, and were able to,let the renters stay for a while early in the process.
DD and her husband in Denver got outbid many times during the pandemic. They eventually bought a townhouse in an “up and coming” neighborhood (read coffee shops, redone homes, interspersed with ratty run down houses.) While out for a walk, they found a 100+ year old house on 2 lots for a “reasonable “ price and bought it. They rent out the townhouse and it pays for their mortgage. Again, good jobs, good with money, no college loans.
Eldest DD lives in Barcelona. Faced with rapidly rising rent because of AirBnBs, we helped her buy a flat and the price was quite reasonable compared to other large cities. She’s an excellent saver, but there’s no way she could have bought a place on her salary. No wonder people are p*$$ed there. Ordinary people can’t afford to live there.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jun 20, 2025 14:26:47 GMT
Three of my four sons are homeowners. The two who bought in the Norfolk/Virginia Beach area ran into bidding wars (2019-2020) and had to pay over asking. One just sold that same home in April and the value of the home had gone up significantly plus they sold for over asking, so the market there played in their favor. The youngest bought a home last year at 22 years of age (on his own - no help from us). He's in the same small city we are in and cost of living here is lower. You can get a LOT more house for the money here than many other places in our state not to mention around the country. The oldest son and his wife have overcome some early adulthood bad financial decisions but for now have prioritized her being home with their babies over home ownership.
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Post by 3boysnme on Jun 20, 2025 16:05:54 GMT
It's almost beyond affordable for anyone, including people with long employment history and dual incomes, to afford to buy a home. I bought my home 3 years ago, and it was the cheapest I could find. It isn't bad, but it isn't what I really wanted either. But I wanted to get out of the paying rent and having to deal with other tenants.
I will probably die before I pay the mortgage off, as I'm in my 60's now. Hopefully my life insurance will pay it off, and I need to work something out so my children can inherit it free and clear. I'm such a procrastinator. I've read where simply having a will is no longer sufficient. So I really need to get the ball rolling on that.
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 21, 2025 12:54:52 GMT
It's almost beyond affordable for anyone, including people with long employment history and dual incomes, to afford to buy a home. I bought my home 3 years ago, and it was the cheapest I could find. It isn't bad, but it isn't what I really wanted either. But I wanted to get out of the paying rent and having to deal with other tenants. I will probably die before I pay the mortgage off, as I'm in my 60's now. Hopefully my life insurance will pay it off, and I need to work something out so my children can inherit it free and clear. I'm such a procrastinator. I've read where simply having a will is no longer sufficient. So I really need to get the ball rolling on that. Check if your state has a "transfer on death" deed. I went to my county courthouse to file the paperwork, after filling it out and having it notarized. My house will automatically become my 2 kids property upon my death. They just have to go to the courthouse with the death certificate. No will or probate required for this.
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Post by 3boysnme on Jun 22, 2025 10:49:14 GMT
It's almost beyond affordable for anyone, including people with long employment history and dual incomes, to afford to buy a home. I bought my home 3 years ago, and it was the cheapest I could find. It isn't bad, but it isn't what I really wanted either. But I wanted to get out of the paying rent and having to deal with other tenants. I will probably die before I pay the mortgage off, as I'm in my 60's now. Hopefully my life insurance will pay it off, and I need to work something out so my children can inherit it free and clear. I'm such a procrastinator. I've read where simply having a will is no longer sufficient. So I really need to get the ball rolling on that. Check if your state has a "transfer on death" deed. I went to my county courthouse to file the paperwork, after filling it out and having it notarized. My house will automatically become my 2 kids property upon my death. They just have to go to the courthouse with the death certificate. No will or probate required for this. Thank you mikklynn! I will look into that!
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 22, 2025 15:37:37 GMT
lot of entry home owners are priced out of fixer uppers by the flipper market. The new hopefuls aren't competing against other lower wage earners looking to buy their first home. They are competing against people using real estate as their hustle/side hustle. yup.
corporations are buying land and building mid-priced homes. They have no intention of selling any of the homes. They are built as rental properties. The corporations are also buying up homes in other neighborhoods and renting them This is true where I live.
So many houses put on the market where I live are being snatched up by mega corps within hours or days of listing.
Lots of properties in my neighborhood are also being listed as cash only offers, that are geared towards corporations. People trying to move where I live don't have 300K-500K in liquid funds.
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Post by Ryann on Jun 25, 2025 20:41:24 GMT
It seems like young people are paying for their education, in lieu of buying houses. Education has become so expensive that it has become near impossible to do both, unless you have help via generational wealth. Since college comes before buying a house in the typical timeline of "life", there is no money to buy a house, when you are tethered to student loans for decades.
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