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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 21, 2025 22:01:41 GMT
UPDATE FF has issued a statement that USA has bombed 3 Iran Nuclear sites. Claims very successful attack and planes have safely left the area.. Iran had previously stated that they would bomb our military bases in the vicinity. Hegseth has deployed the B-2 Bombers to Guam.. According to reports from both the Washington Post and the New York Times, the Pentagon has deployed "multiple B-2 Spirit stealth bombers" over the Pacific Ocean towards Guam, raising alarms that the U.S. may become more deeply involved in Israel's attacks on Iran.The Post is reporting, "The B-2 is the only U.S. aircraft able to carry the 30,000-pound bunker-busting bombs thought to be capable of penetrating Iran’s underground Fordow nuclear enrichment facility." The Times report added, "The B-2 flights were initially tracked on social media just before 1 a.m. on Saturday. Some flight trackers said that the destination of the aircraft is Guam, the U.S. territory, which has several military installations, although that could not be independently confirmed," before stating, "A White House spokeswoman declined to comment." The breaking news on Saturday has onlookers wondering if the movement is a "show of force" to Iran as Trump reportedly mulls his options over the next two weeks as he has stated, or if there is more going on than what meets the eye. On Bluesky, attorney Aaron Parnas pointed to the report and wrote, "BREAKING: We now have confirmation from Reuters and NBC that B2 bombers are being moved toward Iran, to Guam. This is what would be needed for a strike, if Trump gives the green light." www.rawstory.com/this-is-frightening-alarm-raised-after-pentagon-deploys-b-2-bombers-to-guam/bsky.app/profile/aaronparnas.bsky.social/post/3ls4zgnetws2kBREAKING: We now have confirmation from Reuters and NBC that B2 bombers are being moved toward Iran, to Guam. This is what would be needed for a strike, if Trump gives the green light. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 21, 2025 22:03:40 GMT
Do we all remember Lev Parnas? He has words for us .... Parnas goes on to "expose" that the "two week" delay from Trump is part of a plan to get out of a tough situation. For one, Putin won't "let" Trump strike Iran yet, according to the former associate. "Donald Trump wants to strike Iran. He wants the credit. My sources— people who know—tell me Trump wants to go down in history as the man who 'took out' Iran’s nuclear facilities. That’s the legacy he craves," Parnas wrote. "But here’s the truth: He’s being stopped. Stopped by Stephen Witkoff, who’s acting as a backchannel between Trump, Putin, and Iran. And stopped by Vladimir Putin, who’s playing a long game—and needs Iran to survive."As to why Putin "can't let Trump strike yet," Parnas states, "Putin doesn’t want Iran’s regime to collapse. He needs it." "Iran is a critical cog in Putin’s shadow empire: It moves oil for Russia through its sanctioned fleets. It keeps the Middle East unstable—exactly how Putin likes it. It funnels narco money, arms, and influence across Latin America, Africa, and Europe," he added, saying that "most importantly" was, "Putin has over 600 Russian scientists inside Iran’s nuclear facilities." "He said so on the record this week. That was no fluke—it was a warning to Trump and Israel: don’t even think about it," Parnas wrote. "And Trump? He heard it loud and clear. At the same time, Trump is dealing with something he didn’t expect: a MAGA civil war." www.rawstory.com/trump-not-telling-you-iran/ |
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Post by sawwhet on Jun 21, 2025 23:52:11 GMT
I read on social media that they were able to track the planes last night right across the Pacific which I thought was bizarre. I read that they were refuelled over Kansas, California, Hawaii and the Island of Diego Garcia. The story was on CNN as well. US moves B-2 bombers |
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Jun 21, 2025 23:54:45 GMT
I don’t feel confident about this. I don’t think the men “in charge” know WTF they’re doing.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 22, 2025 0:06:40 GMT
Fucking hell. That idiot!
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Post by lisae on Jun 22, 2025 0:07:03 GMT
I just read in the NY Times that the Israeli foreign minister said that their raids had set the Iranians back 2 years in making a bomb. If that were the case, why was this necessary at this time?
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Post by ntsf on Jun 22, 2025 0:25:59 GMT
the us dropped bombs on three sites..
fucking t.. with a big F
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Post by hopemax on Jun 22, 2025 0:31:20 GMT
And all without Congressional authorization. Yet, we know Congress will do nothing to assert their authority. History will not look kindly on our process, even if some can justify the result.
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Post by KiwiJo on Jun 22, 2025 0:31:23 GMT
Here’s what our news sites are reporting:- The United States has carried out a “very successful attack” on three Iran nuclear sites, US President Donald Trump said via his Truth Social platform. “We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan,” Trump posted on social media. “All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE! Thank you for your attention to this matter [sic].” WTF, Mr Trump! You’ve just bombed a country you have no business bombing, and you say “Now is the time for peace”  !!! Bloody hell! Where is this going to end. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 22, 2025 0:32:09 GMT
FF will make a statement tonight at 10pm eastern time!!
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Post by cindosha on Jun 22, 2025 0:33:36 GMT
Good!! Getting shit done. We don’t want Iran to have nukes!!
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Post by sawwhet on Jun 22, 2025 0:38:49 GMT
Here’s what our news sites are reporting:- The United States has carried out a “very successful attack” on three Iran nuclear sites, US President Donald Trump said via his Truth Social platform. “We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan,” Trump posted on social media. “All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great American Warriors. There is not another military in the World that could have done this. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE! Thank you for your attention to this matter [sic].” WTF, Mr Trump! You’ve just bombed a country you have no business bombing, and you say “Now is the time for peace” !!! Bloody hell! Where is this going to end. This. I wonder if this will put the USA and US citizens abroad in danger. |
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Post by chaosisapony on Jun 22, 2025 0:40:34 GMT
I have so many questions. I grew up in the late 90s/early 2000s and it seemed like every week on the nightly news there was reports of the US bombing this place or that place. So in some respect this seems almost, I don't want to use the word normal, but unsurprising I guess, to me. I read on social media that they were able to track the planes last night right across the Pacific which I thought was bizarre. I read that they were refuelled over Kansas, California, Hawaii and the Island of Diego Garcia. The story was on CNN as well. US moves B-2 bombersThis seems so weird. If they are "stealth" aircraft you'd think the secrecy of their movements would be imperitive. Why were people able to track them? And all without Congressional authorization. Yet, we know Congress will do nothing to assert their authority. History will not look kindly on our process, even if some can justify the result. Again, back when I was a kid and we were bombing here and there and everywhere, was Congressional authorization a thing? I know that supposedly Congress has to declare war. Was Congress who was shown all of those giant posters and things of Iraq's supposed weapons sites? I remember seeing that all over the news. I don't expect answers to my questions. It's just all running through my mind right now and I'm trying to make sense of it. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jun 22, 2025 0:41:54 GMT
I just read in the NY Times that the Israeli foreign minister said that their raids had set the Iranians back 2 years in making a bomb. If that were the case, why was this necessary at this time? If this is true then it’s really wrong to do this. I don’t think we should get involved. We got pulled in before and there is no evidence that they were close. If course if he hadn’t pulled out if the agreement where they were being inspected we wouldn’t be here. You can’t go bomb someone snd then say I want peace. He just started a war that we didn’t want. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 22, 2025 0:44:52 GMT
And all without Congressional authorization. Yet, we know Congress will do nothing to assert their authority. History will not look kindly on our process, even if some can justify the result. “Some” members of Congress were notified. Lindsey Graham was one, I’ll bet. He’s been cheerleading for war. I cannot believe that we seem to be getting dragged into yet another damn war. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 22, 2025 0:47:42 GMT
I just read in the NY Times that the Israeli foreign minister said that their raids had set the Iranians back 2 years in making a bomb. If that were the case, why was this necessary at this time? If this is true then it’s really wrong to do this. I don’t think we should get involved. We got pulled in before and there is no evidence that they were close. If course if he hadn’t pulled out if the agreement where they were being inspected we wouldn’t be here. You can’t go bomb someone snd then say I want peace. He just started a war that we didn’t want. It will be interesting to see if Trumpers fall into line now. There have been some fights in the fan club, but never underestimate their ability to believe everything that Dear Leader says. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 22, 2025 1:00:11 GMT
CNN has reporter on ground in Tehran ..
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Jun 22, 2025 1:10:33 GMT
Good!! Getting shit done. We don’t want Iran to have nukes!! Trump’s own Secretary of State said they are not building bombs. He did not have Congressional approval to do this. He’s a loose cannon. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 22, 2025 1:12:56 GMT
Good!! Getting shit done. We don’t want Iran to have nukes!! Have some compassion for those who may have family members in the military stationed in the Middle East! |
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 22, 2025 1:13:08 GMT
Rep. Jim McGovern…..
”This is insane. Trump just bombed Iran without Congressional approval, illegally dragging us into war in the Middle East. Have we not learned our lesson!?!?
Congress must return to Washington at once to vote on @repthomasmassie’s War Powers Resolution to stop this madness.”
Yeah good luck with that…
.https://x.com/repmcgovern/status/1936588726072725639?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Jun 22, 2025 1:25:45 GMT
He’s delusional. He thinks we can bomb them once and case closed. He has no idea what he’s started. Watch when other countries speak out against him.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jun 22, 2025 1:37:14 GMT
You know the arms industry and private companies that sell supplies are happily cheering. 🙄
Is this what he meant by being income back to the US?
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Post by hopemax on Jun 22, 2025 1:39:20 GMT
And all without Congressional authorization. Yet, we know Congress will do nothing to assert their authority. History will not look kindly on our process, even if some can justify the result. Again, back when I was a kid and we were bombing here and there and everywhere, was Congressional authorization a thing? I know that supposedly Congress has to declare war. Was Congress who was shown all of those giant posters and things of Iraq's supposed weapons sites? I remember seeing that all over the news. I don't expect answers to my questions. It's just all running through my mind right now and I'm trying to make sense of it. The President has authority to conduct limited operations especially for imminent threats (which is what they'll claim), but not a broad authority. Congress doesn't usually issue formal declarations of war, but they *do* have something called an "Authorization to use Military Force" which is what they did for both the first Gulf war and action in Afghanistan and Iraq following 9/11, and there was one introduced for Syria in 2013 but President Obama didn't go through with it. What also happens is the United Nations Security Council will pass a resolution allowing countries to take military action, and then Congress will vote to fund US action. This is the process that was used for Korea, Lebanon, Bosnia, and Libya. There was a different resolution for Vietnam and other conflicts that were previous AUMFs.
The big question is this really "limited" or the start of another quagmire. If today's bombing is all we do, the lack of authorization will matter matter less. There are numerous examples. However, my post hints to my expectation that this will not end quickly, and who knows what direction it will take. So many years and words spent to try to bring peace to the Middle East, and we just go and drop bombs. |
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Post by hopemax on Jun 22, 2025 1:43:52 GMT
You know the arms industry and private companies that sell supplies are happily cheering. 🙄 Is this what he meant by being income back to the US? I wonder about this, in reality. With supply chains and labor under stress due to other administration actions. Even the attack on higher education is going to work its way into our ability to create and supply weapons of war. It's like we want to do a thing, but shoot ourselves in the foot so we can't execute it properly. |
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Post by Merge on Jun 22, 2025 1:55:21 GMT
I think I've seen this film before, and I didn't like the ending.
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Post by Merge on Jun 22, 2025 1:56:03 GMT
Good!! Getting shit done. We don’t want Iran to have nukes!! Have some compassion for those who may have family members in the military stationed in the Middle East! Please. She doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself. Her family's all cut her off.
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Post by cindosha on Jun 22, 2025 1:58:21 GMT
Good!! Getting shit done. We don’t want Iran to have nukes!! Have some compassion for those who may have family members in the military stationed in the Middle East! Iran cannot have nukes. They have no issue with blowing up anyone in the world. Trump did what he needed to do. |
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Post by cindosha on Jun 22, 2025 2:01:03 GMT
Have some compassion for those who may have family members in the military stationed in the Middle East! Please. She doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself. Her family's all cut her off.
Trump campaigned on no more wars. How quickly the cultists forget what they voted for. Actually, my entire family feels the same way I do. So, another miss on your part. 🤷🏻♀️ |
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 22, 2025 2:01:21 GMT
It's unconstitutional and there isn't an AUMF that covers this, but here we are. As someone with one kid of draft age and three other teenaged boys, I'd like it if we actually followed the constitution and had a legislative process before we potentially consign them to give their lives for anything.
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Post by Merge on Jun 22, 2025 2:15:01 GMT
Thinking back, during my lifetime, we've only started new wars under Republican presidents. I was 18 when Bush Sr. took us to the middle east the first time and had a couple of college classmates deploy. I was a new mother when Bush Jr. took us to Iraq. And now my kids are young adults and Trump is starting shit with Iran that will certainly have repercussions at home, whether we see attacks here or "just" see a bunch of young soldiers sent off to the Middle East again to fight a war we can't win because the other side literally believes their god wants them to kill all of us and they don't mind dying in the process.
I'm sick of it. If there was one promise I hoped Trump would actually keep, it was to not get us into any new wars. But no surprise that a man who lies as easily as he breathes would do this now. No surprise at all.
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