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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 8, 2025 19:53:05 GMT
He wants CA to have its downfall. He probably thinks that rounding up people who have every right to be here will cause our economy to shut down and make us beg him for help. I really would love for Newsom to withhold federal funding and keep it in CA. Just give Trump a big middle finger I hate when people say this. I mean I wish we could I wish there was a mechanism. But, How would any governor do that? We as individuals (or couples ) each DIRECTLY pay the IRS individually straight into the federal treasury, it doesn’t go thru the state at all. How would a Governor of any state ‘keep’ that from the federal government? And trust me rich people can skip paying taxes and play legal games with the IRS for years but none of us peons can. Because if you know a way for me to not pay the IRS, pay that $ to my state and I don’t go to jail or get fined by the IRS I’m all in. Let me in on the secret. Best I could find was lowering my withholding from my paycheck to pay next April, but even that has limits before you get a penalty. Hate it all you want. I am 99% sure that if there is a will, there is a way. If people can hack into systems that are so locked down no one should be able to, I am sure there is a way to heck systems and keep money or shift it to some state withholdings account. Maybe stop direct deposits, have payroll change codes and what not, and give people checks. Again, I would love for him to do this. And I am sure there could be a way to do it. And I would be thrilled if someone figured it out. |
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Post by katlady on Jul 8, 2025 20:12:13 GMT
Maybe stop direct deposits, have payroll change codes and what not, and give people checks. Tax withholdings are taken out before you get a paycheck, whether it is a physical or digital check. So stopping direct deposits will do nothing. Yes, you would need to change the computer code so that no federal taxes are withheld. But the payment of these taxes fall on the individual businesses. All that federal money is not funneled into one big account and then paid to the feds. So someone would need to hack thousands and thousands of businesses. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 8, 2025 20:12:46 GMT
The march through the park in an area with a lot of immigrants was a disgraceful, disgusting show of force. Look what we can do. The video made me sick watching it - armed vehicles driving through city streets are completely unacceptable. Trump and his minions put these goons and thugs in charge. They are successfully scaring immigrants and disrupting the local economy. Even people here legally are understandably afraid. This is terror by the federal government, intended to instill fear in people. www.nytimes.com/2025/07/07/us/la-macarthur-park-immigration.html“What I saw in the park today looked like a city under siege, under armed occupation,” Mayor Karen Bass said in a news conference on Monday afternoon, adding that she had traveled regularly into conflict zones as a member of Congress. “It’s the way a city looks before a coup.” Gregory Bovino, a Customs and Border Protection chief in Southern California, indicated Monday that the Trump administration intended to make itself seen across the city. “Better get used to us now, cause this is going to be normal very soon,” Mr. Bovino told a Fox News reporter. “We will go anywhere, anytime we want in Los Angeles.” |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 8, 2025 20:19:23 GMT
Part of the difference between Trump's first term and now? In 2017, John Kelly checked Steven Miller. Now, there's no one standing in his way. His first term was a trial run and now there will be terrible consequences without any checks. www.nytimes.com/2025/07/07/opinion/stephen-miller.htmlStephen Miller was livid. It was a couple of months after Donald Trump’s inauguration, and Mr. Miller, a senior White House adviser, believed that the federal government was not doing nearly enough to stem the tide of illegal immigration into the United States. In a relentless round of meetings, phone calls and emails, he reached deep into the federal bureaucracy and, according to a former Department of Homeland Security official, berated mid- and low-level bureaucrats inside the department. To keep their jobs, he told the officials, they needed to enforce a new policy that punished the families of undocumented immigrants by forcibly separating parents from their children.Mr. Miller’s demands, however, went unmet. That’s because he was issuing them back in 2017, and the homeland security secretary, John Kelly, had issued his own edict to D.H.S. officials: If Mr. Miller ordered them to do something, they were to refuse, unless Mr. Kelly, the only one of the two men who’d been confirmed by the U.S. Senate to run the department, agreed to the order.Flash forward eight years, to this past May, when Mr. Miller, still livid and now the White House deputy chief of staff, paid a visit to the Washington headquarters of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, where he berated officials for not deporting nearly enough immigrants. He told the officials that rather than develop target lists of gang members and violent criminals, they should just go to Home Depots, where day laborers gather to be hired, or to 7-Eleven convenience stores and arrest the undocumented immigrants they find there.This time, the officials did what Mr. Miller said.There is much truth to the conventional wisdom that the biggest difference between the first and second Trump presidencies is that, in the second iteration, Mr. Trump is unrestrained. The same is true of Mr. Miller. He has emerged as Mr. Trump’s most powerful, and empowered, adviser. With the passage of the big policy bill, ICE will have an even bigger budget to execute Mr. Miller’s vision and, in effect, serve as his own private army. Moreover, his influence extends beyond immigration to the battles the Trump administration is fighting on higher education, transgender rights, discrimination law and foreign policy. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 8, 2025 20:31:22 GMT
Vance's idea of citizenship? Some Americans are more American than others. If your family has been here for generations, you're more American. I'm not sure how they square this vision with native Americans. I'm certain they are only referring to white Americans with European ancestry. talkingpointsmemo.com/news/jd-vance-some-americans-are-more-american-than-othersWhat Vance expressed to the friendly Claremont audience was a dramatically reduced vision of American citizenship. It’s one in which having ancestors who have lived here for generations entitles you to more; a vision of citizenship that’s long existed around the world, with a notable and aspirational exception in the United States.
Dog whistles aside (you can count quite a few in the above), Vance is channeling an idea that undergirds the administration’s most aggressive immigration policies — policies that are, after the additional $170 billion that Congress appropriated for enforcement this month, set to expand.
Vance wasn’t talking about an America that’s entirely closed off to new immigrants; rather, it’s an America where “heritage” counts as much as values.
For all Vance’s — and those on the new right’s — talk of imposing a new order on American politics, they’re still reactionaries of a very old variety. Birthright citizenship, after all, was enshrined in the Constitution after those Union soldiers’ victory in the Civil War. What he described on Saturday was fundamentally regressive: a vision of American citizenship anchored far in the past. |
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Post by pantsonfire on Jul 8, 2025 20:34:50 GMT
Maybe stop direct deposits, have payroll change codes and what not, and give people checks. Tax withholdings are taken out before you get a paycheck, whether it is a physical or digital check. So stopping direct deposits will do nothing. Yes, you would need to change the computer code so that no federal taxes are withheld. But the payment of these taxes fall on the individual businesses. All that federal money is not funneled into one big account and then paid to the feds. So someone would need to hack thousands and thousands of businesses. Well then maybe it's time to succeed from the US. I used to hate that idea but honestly something has to give. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 8, 2025 20:36:48 GMT
bsky.app/profile/rbreich.bsky.social/post/3lthw3e2bp72pRobert Reich
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As ICE terrorizes communities, remember that some of Trump's biggest supporters are private prison companies that will make bank off his budget bill.
And Stephen Miller recently disclosed over $100K of stock in Palantir, the shady data firm ICE uses to target immigrants.
Cashing in on cruelty.
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Post by katlady on Jul 8, 2025 21:17:27 GMT
What Vance expressed to the friendly Claremont audience was a dramatically reduced vision of American citizenship. It’s one in which having ancestors who have lived here for generations entitles you to more; a vision of citizenship that’s long existed around the world, with a notable and aspirational exception in the United States. How many generations? What about his wife? What about Trump's family? There are many minority families, like mine, that have been in the US for over 100 years. Which is a lot longer than many families that came here after WWII. But, we probably won't get a lot of bonus points because we are not white. What a bunch of bull! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 8, 2025 21:31:56 GMT
I'm not counting on being safe, although with recently acquired paperwork from my cousin I am entitled to join the Mayflower 'group'. Not sure what the official name is, nor do I care...
That's where they landed way back when.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 8, 2025 22:13:21 GMT
The hypocrisy of this administration demanding campus protestesters not use masks while allowing ICE to wear them and remain unidentified is endless. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/07/08/ice-masks-trump-immigrants/Democratic Sens. Mark R. Warner and Tim Kaine of Virginia recently urged the Department of Homeland Security to limit the use of face coverings and clearly identify its officers. Failure to do so, they argue, “put everyone at risk — the targeted individuals, the ICE officers and agents, and bystanders who may misunderstand what is happening and may attempt to intervene.”
And that’s the crux of the peril here.
How do you tell the difference between an arrest and an abduction? Short answer: You can’t. In April, a Florida woman impersonating a masked ICE agent tried to kidnap her ex-boyfriend’s wife. Imagine that someone walking down the street is suddenly pulled into an unmarked vehicle by armed, masked men. Will witnesses call the police, or try to intercede? Might they hesitate, given ICE’s threats to prosecute two women at a Charlottesville courthouse who tried to make masked ICE officers identify themselves during an arrest?
This administration demands transparency and accountability — well, from people protesting its policies. Among the White House demands of universities is a campuswide mask ban with “serious and immediate penalties.” The message to dissenters is clear: We can wear masks, but you cannot. “What do these people have to hide, and why?” Trump asked on Truth Social. He was referring to demonstrators. But the question cuts both ways.
When agents demand the right to be both armed and anonymous, they blur the line between law enforcement and lawlessness. In a country where mistaken identity can now get you deported or killed, and where rights are harder to restore than to erode, this is a slow-motion threat to public safety and democratic legitimacy. And now with an additional $45 billion for immigrant detentions in the new budget bill — three times the current level — ICE will need to rebuild public trust if it is to function safely and effectively.
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Post by RosieKat on Jul 8, 2025 22:59:44 GMT
And why aren’t the National Guard being sent to help out in Texas? While I hate to give any credit to anyone right now, they have been sent. I'm not sure why it's not being mentioned more. As to everything else mentioned here, it's just disgusting and continues to be horrifying. |
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Post by katlady on Jul 8, 2025 23:09:06 GMT
And why aren’t the National Guard being sent to help out in Texas? While I hate to give any credit to anyone right now, they have been sent. I'm not sure why it's not being mentioned more. As to everything else mentioned here, it's just disgusting and continues to be horrifying. I wasn’t clear on my post. Sorry about that. I was actually talking about the National Guards that are in L.A. isn’t it money better spent to send them to Texas. |
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Post by RosieKat on Jul 8, 2025 23:26:59 GMT
I wasn’t clear on my post. Sorry about that. I was actually talking about the National Guards that are in L.A. isn’t it money better spent to send them to Texas. Ah, yeah, that. Well, that's just continuing the further F.U. to California, so it's serving his purposes just fine. (As for me, they just shouldn't be deployed at all. I don't think they can cross state lines, can they? Or did I just dream that up?) |
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What Vance expressed to the friendly Claremont audience was a dramatically reduced vision of American citizenship. It’s one in which having ancestors who have lived here for generations entitles you to more; a vision of citizenship that’s long existed around the world, with a notable and aspirational exception in the United States. How many generations? What about his wife? What about Trump's family? There are many minority families, like mine, that have been in the US for over 100 years. Which is a lot longer than many families that came here after WWII. But, we probably won't get a lot of bonus points because we are not white. What a bunch of bull! Having just gone thru getting my dual Italian citizenship as a US citizen, I have a front row seat to how this is playing out THERE. Apparently you can only go back to grandparents now for citizenship, even if you LIVE there. At NO point can anyone have naturalized in the US or you are not eligible. You have to be there for 10 years in order to even begin the quest for it. In those 10 years, you have to work and contribute to the country. There are now 2 classes of citizens in Italy- those who were born there and those who received it via consulate and have passed it to their children who were not born there. My own kids are considered "native" Italian because I made the deadline in March when everything was changed. Their children (my grands) can receive citizenship from them. Their grand children (my great-grands) will not be eligible for citizenship unless they move there and live there for 2-5 years (still being discussed). I almost feel like this is what the Cheeto in Chief is trying to do. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 10, 2025 1:35:57 GMT
IDK. I'm super mad on behalf of California that Trump immediately rolled out the "you'll get whatever you need" card for Texas this week after basically telling California to go F themselves after the fires. Unrelated, but yesterday ICE raided an auto repair shop in a suburb of Houston and kidnapped the man running the shop, so clearly Trump isn't going to spare us the hit our economy will take as we lose more and more workers.
I don't think that's completely true... www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2025-03-04/eaton-palisades-fire-environmental-protection-agency-cleanupwww.gov.ca.gov/2025/03/26/assistance-continues-to-flow-to-families-and-businesses-as-federal-aid-for-la-fires-tops-2-billion/ ICE raided an auto repair shop in a suburb of Houston and kidnapped the man running the shopI couldn't find an article related to that from yesterday but I have to assume that the man was either undocumented or let his work/visitor/student visa run out. Either way, he should have done things the right/legal way, especially if he's been here for a while, and then he wouldn't have any problem staying here. CA is still waiting for federal funds. Trump and the Republicans have been stalling for months but didn't hesitate to send help to TX. And no, federal funds should not have conditions. Can you imagine if Biden decided I don't like NC, they didn't vote for me, so I'm not going to send help after a hurricane? Or if he refused to send funds to a midwest Republican state after a tornado or another disaster? The hypocrisy and double standards of this administration are unbelievable. Blue states get criticized for their efforts to prevent disasters and aid is withheld. Help is immediately rushed to red states and no criticism is allowed. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/09/texas-flooding-trump-politics-disaster-relief/For months, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) has pressed the GOP-led Congress to free up $40 billion in federal relief for swaths of Los Angeles consumed by devastating wildfires.
President Donald Trump and other Republicans have so far withheld the funds, with many arguing that Newsom and other Democrats in the deep-blue state have mishandled the fires and should be forced to rescind liberal policies in exchange for aid.
But now deadly floods have struck ruby-red Texas — and the Republican response is much different, with Trump and others promising unfettered and prompt federal support in the months and years to come.
The contrast underscores the extent to which the Trump administration treats blue and red states differently, whether in disaster response or in targeting liberal areas for aggressive immigration enforcement.
Trump is slated to visit the state on Friday, fulfilling a unifying public ritual for commanders in chief as he and other White House officials continue to deflect questions about whether anything could have prevented the devastation. The stance is unusual for Trump, who is not shy about assigning blame and has done so repeatedly in the aftermath of past tragedies — at several points critiquing Newsom and other California Democrats.
When Hurricane Helene hit North Carolina last year, Trump accused his Democratic predecessor, Joe Biden, of playing politics with the federal response to a Republican area. He dashed to storm-ravaged parts of the South, drawing criticism of his own that the security footprint of a presidential candidate diminished recovery efforts and that his false claims about the federal response stopped victims from getting needed help.
The White House has cast as insensitive critics who questioned the performance of the government’s weather warning system. “Blaming President Trump for these floods is a depraved lie, and it serves no purpose during this time of national mourning,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said on Monday, defending the National Weather Service.
But Republicans, including Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana), have sought to hold Newsom responsible during fraught moments for California — including in the aftermath of wildfires in January.Regarding visas, maybe Musk and Melania should have done things the legal way, too. I don't think you understand the complexities, challenges, cost and time (years) that it takes to do things the legal way. Don't you think people would choose the legal way if they could? www.cato.org/policy-analysis/why-legal-immigration-nearly-impossibleWhy Legal Immigration Is Nearly Impossible
America traditionally had few immigration restrictions, but since the 1920s, the law has banned most aspiring immigrants. Today, fewer than 1 percent of people who want to move permanently to the United States can do so legally. Immigrants cannot simply get an exception to immigrate any more than restaurateurs in the 1920s could simply get an exception to sell alcohol. Instead, just as Prohibition granted only a few exemptions for religious, industrial, or medical uses of alcohol, people seeking an exception to immigration prohibition must also fit into preexisting carve-outs for a select few.
Many Americans have the false impression that these carve-outs are realistic options for potential immigrants to join American society, but the government’s restrictive criteria render the legal paths available only in the most extreme cases. Even when someone qualifies, annual immigration caps greatly delay and, more frequently, eliminate the immigrant’s chance to come to the United States. Legal immigration is less like waiting in line and more like winning the lottery: it happens, but it is so rare that it is irrational to expect it in any individual case. |
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Post by cindosha on Jul 10, 2025 12:50:16 GMT
CA is still waiting for federal funds. Trump and the Republic have been stalling for months but didn't hesitate to send help to TX. And no, federal funds should not have conditions. Can you imagine if Biden decided I don't like NC, they didn't vote for me, so I'm not going to send help after a hurricane? Or if he refused to send funds to a midwest Republican state after a tornado or another disaster? The hypocrisy and double standards of this administration are unbelievable. Blue states get criticized for their efforts to prevent disasters and aid is withheld. Help is immediately rushed to red states and no criticism is allowed. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/09/texas-flooding-trump-politics-disaster-relief/For months, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) has pressed the GOP-led Congress to free up $40 billion in federal relief for swaths of Los Angeles consumed by devastating wildfires.
President Donald Trump and other Republicans have so far withheld the funds, with many arguing that Newsom and other Democrats in the deep-blue state have mishandled the fires and should be forced to rescind liberal policies in exchange for aid.
But now deadly floods have struck ruby-red Texas — and the Republican response is much different, with Trump and others promising unfettered and prompt federal support in the months and years to come.
The contrast underscores the extent to which the Trump administration treats blue and red states differently, whether in disaster response or in targeting liberal areas for aggressive immigration enforcement.
Trump is slated to visit the state on Friday, fulfilling a unifying public ritual for commanders in chief as he and other White House officials continue to deflect questions about whether anything could have prevented the devastation. The stance is unusual for Trump, who is not shy about assigning blame and has done so repeatedly in the aftermath of past tragedies — at several points critiquing Newsom and other California Democrats.
When Hurricane Helene hit North Carolina last year, Trump accused his Democratic predecessor, Joe Biden, of playing politics with the federal response to a Republican area. He dashed to storm-ravaged parts of the South, drawing criticism of his own that the security footprint of a presidential candidate diminished recovery efforts and that his false claims about the federal response stopped victims from getting needed help.
The White House has cast as insensitive critics who questioned the performance of the government’s weather warning system. “Blaming President Trump for these floods is a depraved lie, and it serves no purpose during this time of national mourning,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said on Monday, defending the National Weather Service.
But Republicans, including Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana), have sought to hold Newsom responsible during fraught moments for California — including in the aftermath of wildfires in January.Regarding visas, maybe Musk and Melania should have done things the legal way, too. I don't think you understand the complexities, challenges, cost and time (years) that it takes to do things the legal way. Don't you think people would choose the legal way if they could? www.cato.org/policy-analysis/why-legal-immigration-nearly-impossibleWhy Legal Immigration Is Nearly Impossible
America traditionally had few immigration restrictions, but since the 1920s, the law has banned most aspiring immigrants. Today, fewer than 1 percent of people who want to move permanently to the United States can do so legally. Immigrants cannot simply get an exception to immigrate any more than restaurateurs in the 1920s could simply get an exception to sell alcohol. Instead, just as Prohibition granted only a few exemptions for religious, industrial, or medical uses of alcohol, people seeking an exception to immigration prohibition must also fit into preexisting carve-outs for a select few.
Many Americans have the false impression that these carve-outs are realistic options for potential immigrants to join American society, but the government’s restrictive criteria render the legal paths available only in the most extreme cases. Even when someone qualifies, annual immigration caps greatly delay and, more frequently, eliminate the immigrant’s chance to come to the United States. Legal immigration is less like waiting in line and more like winning the lottery: it happens, but it is so rare that it is irrational to expect it in any individual case. Not true based on the second article I linked. Maybe cali can use some of the $33 billion that was earmarked for a high speed rail system of which most of that money is gone and not used on the non-existent system that was supposed to be completed by 2020. Oh, they can't because that money is unaccounted for. Typical. |
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Post by stacyjinup on Jul 10, 2025 14:18:03 GMT
Per the article linked above: of that 2 billion in assistance- only 200 million was in FEMA assistance, the remaining 2 billion was in SBA Loans. Which means that would have to be paid back by the home owners and business owners.
Disaster assistance by the numbers:
Federal assistance to eligible homeowners, renters, and businesses, in the form of FEMA grants and low-interest SBA Disaster Loans, has topped $2 billion. That includes:
$200 million in FEMA assistance.
$2 billion in home and business loan offers from the SBA, the largest source of federal disaster recovery funds for homeowners, renters, businesses, and certain nonprofits.
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Post by Merge on Jul 10, 2025 14:43:19 GMT
Per the article linked above: of that 2 billion in assistance- only 200 million was in FEMA assistance, the remaining 2 billion was in SBA Loans. Which means that would have to be paid back by the home owners and business owners. Disaster assistance by the numbers: Federal assistance to eligible homeowners, renters, and businesses, in the form of FEMA grants and low-interest SBA Disaster Loans, has topped $2 billion. That includes: $200 million in FEMA assistance. $2 billion in home and business loan offers from the SBA, the largest source of federal disaster recovery funds for homeowners, renters, businesses, and certain nonprofits. And never mind that Newsom had asked for $40 billion. Throwing $200 million at him was basically an insult. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 10, 2025 15:05:02 GMT
CA is still waiting for Trump and Congress to act on the $40 billion Newsom asked for in February apnews.com/article/california-wildfires-newsom-federal-aid-71ec591a60c05d45432382095dbfd147
Estimates of the total economic loss from the firestorm have been estimated to surpass $250 billion — with real estate losses from the Palisades and Eaton fires predicted to potentially top $30 billion, according to a Los Angeles Times analysis. More than 16,200 structures were destroyed as flames ripped through Pacific Palisades, Malibu, Pasadena and Altadena
His largest request is for an additional $16.8 billion from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, mostly intended for the rebuilding of property and infrastructure, with $5 billion earmarked for debris cleanup.
Newsom also asked for $9.9 billion from the Department of Housing and Urban Development for grants to fire victims, homeowners, businesses and renters, as well as $5.29 billion from the Small Business Administration for homeowner and business loans. www.politico.com/news/2025/02/21/newsom-sends-congress-40-billion-request-for-la-fire-aid-00205600
Newsom outlined $16.8 billion for public assistance emergency work, $9.9 billion to repair houses and businesses, $5.3 billion for business loans, $4.32 billion for business grants, $2 billion for low-income housing tax credits and hundreds of millions more for transportation and water infrastructure and other programs. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 11, 2025 16:35:42 GMT
We’re becoming a police state with a fascist government. They’re admitting to racial profiling to detain people. They’re saying the quiet part out loud. The ICE quotas, alligator Alcatraz etc are all part of a broader effort to make America white again. bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ltoyyfr5vt2m
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 11, 2025 22:18:08 GMT
Furthermore, ICE detaining people without probable cause is illegal. bsky.appDaniel Goldman
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This is patently false.
DHS has authority to question and search people coming into the country at points of entry.
But ICE may not detain and question anyone without reasonable suspicion — and certainly not based on their physical appearance alone.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 11, 2025 22:20:54 GMT
Tanks and armored vehicles driving through residential neighborhoods and parks. ICE raids at farms, churches, courthouses, summer camps, car washes and Home Depots. ICE wore masks, deployed a helicopter, used tear gas on protestors and a person died in the raid in CA on a farm. bsky.app/profile/50501movement.bsky.social/post/3ltplp4ypec2h50501: The People’s Movement @50501movement.bsky.socialIn a matter of days, ICE has gone from unannounced residential operations to full-scale militarized raids. ICE’s latest show of force should be a warning to every person in every state: “we can come for you anytime, anywhere, and there is nothing your elected officials can do to stop us.”www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/us/politics/los-angeles-immigration-enforcement.htmlThe number of arrests by the Department of Homeland Security in the Los Angeles region has spiked over the last month as the Trump administration has deployed hundreds of agents and military members to crack down on the area.
Since the beginning of June, homeland security agents and officers have arrested nearly 2,800 undocumented immigrants in the Los Angeles area, according to the agency. The previous monthly high for immigration arrests in the Los Angeles area by Immigration and Customs Enforcement in 2025 was just over 850 arrests in May,
“This isn’t about violent criminals — they’re pulling up to chase people through Home Depot parking lots, summer camps and carwashes,” Mayor Karen Bass said in a statement. “These reckless, unlawful raids are fueled by racial profiling that has driven fear in communities, tearing families apart, crushing entire sectors of the economy because people are afraid to go to work and flying in the face of American democratic values.” |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 11, 2025 22:24:57 GMT
Stephen Miller is pure evil, spewing hate and falsehoods to stir up more hate. And Trump put him in charge. bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ltpku4qnlc2vAaron Rupar
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 11, 2025 22:40:30 GMT
I have zero sympathy or Jeff Bezos, but I'm sure that other employers will be impacted by the administration revoking work authorizations. www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/technology/trump-immigration-amazon-warehouses.htmlTrump’s Purge of Foreign Workers Arrives at Amazon’s Warehouses
The tech giant has quietly shed warehouse employees whose work authorizations were revoked after the Trump administration ended a Biden-era immigration program.
Two weeks later, Mr. Jerome, 35, lost his job. His work authorization was revoked in late June after the Trump administration ended a Biden-era program that allowed him to live and work legally in the United States. Hundreds of others at the same Amazon building in West Jefferson, which employs more than 3,700 people, also lost their jobs.
They are among thousands of foreign workers across the country who have been swept up in a quiet purge, pushed out of jobs in places where their labor was in high demand and at times won high praise. While raids to nab undocumented workers in fields and Home Depot parking lots have grabbed attention, the job dismissals at the Amazon warehouse are part of the Trump administration’s effort to thin the ranks of immigrants who had legal authorization to work.
The dismissals came with remarkable speed. On May 30, the Supreme Court granted temporary approval for the Trump administration to revoke a program known as “humanitarian parole,” which had allowed more than 500,000 migrants feeling political turmoil in Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela to quickly get work permits if they had a fiscal sponsor.
The move to terminate the parole status was part of the Trump administration’s effort to roll back discretionary immigration programs established by the Biden administration and to fulfill Mr. Trump’s aim of mass deportations. |
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Post by ntsf on Jul 11, 2025 23:08:50 GMT
just so you are all aware, the first death as a result of an ice raid happened in CA.. a massive number of ice/whatever agents arrived, plus lots of protestors.. and apparently a worker fell several stories inside a warehouse. a total of 4 went to the hospital with injuries.. one man died. 8 others treated on site. (tear gas and rubber bullets were used..so who knows)
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Post by morecowbell on Jul 12, 2025 2:59:05 GMT
Furthermore, ICE detaining people without probable cause is illegal. bsky.appDaniel Goldman
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This is patently false.
DHS has authority to question and search people coming into the country at points of entry.
But ICE may not detain and question anyone without reasonable suspicion — and certainly not based on their physical appearance alone.
This lawlessness must stop.Where is your proof that they're detaining people WITHOUT reasonable suspicion or based on their physical appearance alone? |
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Post by ntsf on Jul 12, 2025 4:05:41 GMT
homan stated that that is what the agents are told to do and he said it is not illegal to detain someone based on looks, occupation, language spoken, etc.. and all that he said shows that ice is not following the 4th amendment of the constitution. and taking someone off the streets is the other proof. they don't have cause.. just cause the person "looks" illegal or standing outside home depot or gardening, you can't stop and ask for papers.
there are 500,000 white undocumented people in the usa and you don't see them swept off the streets.
this is all another reason my dh got his irish passport and eu identity card.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 12, 2025 5:08:58 GMT
Furthermore, ICE detaining people without probable cause is illegal. bsky.appDaniel Goldman
@danielsgoldman.dg4ny.co
This is patently false.
DHS has authority to question and search people coming into the country at points of entry.
But ICE may not detain and question anyone without reasonable suspicion — and certainly not based on their physical appearance alone.
This lawlessness must stop.Where is your proof that they're detaining people WITHOUT reasonable suspicion or based on their physical appearance alone? Homan said on Fox that ICE doesn’t need probable cause and A judge told the Trump administration to stop detaining people without probable cause thehill.com/homenews/administration/judge-trump-california-immigration-stops-order/
When detaining the three day laborers who are plaintiffs in the lawsuit, all immigration agents knew about them is that they were Latino and were dressed in construction work clothes, the filing in the lawsuit said. It goes on to describe raids at swap meets and Home Depots where witnesses say federal agents grabbed anyone who “looked Hispanic.”
U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents were already barred from making warrantless arrests in a large swath of eastern California after a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction in Aprilwww.cnn.com/2025/07/11/politics/california-immigration-arrests-probable-cause
Judge orders Trump administration to stop immigration arrests without probable cause in Southern California
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A federal judge on Friday found that the Department of Homeland Security has been making stops and arrests in Los Angeles immigration raids without probable cause and ordered the department to stop detaining individuals based solely on race, spoken language or occupation.
US District Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, an appointee of former President Joe Biden, ordered that DHS must develop guidance for officers to determine “reasonable suspicion” outside of the apparent race or ethnicity of a person, the language they speak or their accent, “presence at a particular location” such as a bus stop or “the type of work one does.” |
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Post by morecowbell on Jul 12, 2025 6:43:54 GMT
Where is your proof that they're detaining people WITHOUT reasonable suspicion or based on their physical appearance alone? Homan said on Fox that ICE doesn’t need probable cause and A judge told the Trump administration to stop detaining people without probable cause thehill.com/homenews/administration/judge-trump-california-immigration-stops-order/
When detaining the three day laborers who are plaintiffs in the lawsuit, all immigration agents knew about them is that they were Latino and were dressed in construction work clothes, the filing in the lawsuit said. It goes on to describe raids at swap meets and Home Depots where witnesses say federal agents grabbed anyone who “looked Hispanic.”
U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents were already barred from making warrantless arrests in a large swath of eastern California after a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction in Aprilwww.cnn.com/2025/07/11/politics/california-immigration-arrests-probable-cause
Judge orders Trump administration to stop immigration arrests without probable cause in Southern California
CNN
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A federal judge on Friday found that the Department of Homeland Security has been making stops and arrests in Los Angeles immigration raids without probable cause and ordered the department to stop detaining individuals based solely on race, spoken language or occupation.
US District Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, an appointee of former President Joe Biden, ordered that DHS must develop guidance for officers to determine “reasonable suspicion” outside of the apparent race or ethnicity of a person, the language they speak or their accent, “presence at a particular location” such as a bus stop or “the type of work one does.” White House Border Czar Thomas Homan recently stated that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers and Border Patrol agents can detain and question individuals based on the " totality of the circumstances". According to Homan, this involves considering various factors such as location, occupation, physical appearance, and actions. That is not basing on physical appearance alone. Also probable cause and reasonable suspicion are 2 different requirements. |
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Post by Merge on Jul 12, 2025 12:18:59 GMT
Stephen Miller is pure evil, spewing hate and falsehoods to stir up more hate. And Trump put him in charge. bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ltpku4qnlc2vAaron Rupar
@atrupar.com
Stephen Miller: "What would LA look like without illegal aliens? You would be able to see a doctor in the ER right away, no wait time, no problem. You kids would go to a public school that had more money than they know what to do with. Classrooms would be half the size."Well, gee, Steven Miller, the vast majority of them pay taxes that help keep all these things afloat. And they contribute to the economy to everyone's benefit. So the math doesn’t math on your claims. |
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