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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 12, 2025 1:53:20 GMT
If you look up “which cities have the most crime” you will see a lot of cities that I don’t consider to be “blue” and are not in “blue states.”
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Post by sassyangel on Aug 12, 2025 1:54:08 GMT
What are the blue cities “where the criminals have taken over everything?” :looks around my blue city and shrugs: *Looks around hers and also shrugs*
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Aug 12, 2025 2:04:01 GMT
If you look up “which cities have the most crime” you will see a lot of cities that I don’t consider to be “blue” and are not in “blue states.” ETA here is a map of shoplifting stats in various cities. You can also find stats on overall crime, particularly violent crime if you look for it. www.newsweek.com/map-shows-cities-highest-rates-shoplifting-1935883
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Post by Chips on Aug 12, 2025 2:06:08 GMT
:looks around my blue city and shrugs: *Looks around hers and also shrugs* Looks around my blue city and surrounding suburbs and we are safer than ever. Well except for the current administration. ![]()
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 12, 2025 2:07:03 GMT
Lol, someone is mighty upset with my posts. I wonder why? Is telling me to fuck off the best you can do? Shows how you handle people you don’t agree with instead of handling it like an adult. Why did you tell me to fuck off? Because we finally have a President that has balls and is getting shit done. And you liberals hate that he’s accomplished so much in so little time being in office. And all that taxpayer waste that was uncovered? Think about all the good things that money can do and put to much better use now and help the citizens of our country! And y’all are upset that the waste was uncovered! Why? Because it shows how poorly the previous administration was running things. I want the border closed and all illegal immigrants deported. If you want to come into this country, do it legally and don’t skip the line. All other countries have closed borders. But when Trump closed our border, we are now racist? So the other countries with closed borders are racist too? Obama deported way more illegals. But somehow Trump is the racist one? And I want a President that is tough on crime. I’d love to see all states get tough and reduce crime across the country. This would benefit all of us. I’d love to see all the funds that had previously been used to house and feed illegals used instead for our veterans, low income families and the elderly. This is all common sense. Reduce crime and help low income AMERICANS. When and if this country is back on track, then funds can be used to help other countries. But we’ve got SO much need here in our own country. Let’s fix our country and help our people first. Our tax dollars that we Americans pay should help Americans. Are there any right wing talking points that you missed? The issue with the border and immigration is how it is being done. I think we all agree that we needed comprehensive immigration reform years ago. But there are a lot of things wrong with how Trump is doing it now. It is inhumane and is targeting people who are here doing good things--not the "rapists and murderers" that Trump said he was going to focus on. Trump is racist and so is Stephen Miller and other members of his administration. Their methods and intentions of removing people is based in large part on that racism. We are also paying a lot of money to house people in detention centers. Guess who is benefitting from that? And then we are losing any tax revenue from the immigrants themselves. I also am curious if you have been paying attention to the ways that Trump has been taking away services and jobs from the US citizens that you want to help? One of the reasons we don't buy the bullshit outrage over Trump any more is the remarkably missing posts and news stories from when it was happening under Obama. Showing that the "general you" don't actually give a shit about immigrants unless you can use them as a weapon against Trump. May 12, 2016 President Obama Ramps Up Family Separations - NILC "In forging ahead with more of these planned raids, which were first announced in late 2015, the administration is turning a blind eye to the many serious DUE PROCESS VIOLATIONS that took place during the last round of raids, which have been repeatedly highlighted by attorneys, advocates, educators and elected officials, and the shockwaves of fear they set off throughout the immigrant community." "These MILITARY-STYLE RAIDS AGAINST MOTHERS AND CHILDREN FLEEING VIOLENCE are reprehensible. We are outraged that THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION has once again decided to ENGAGE IN A PR STUNT that SERVES ONLY TO CREATE FEAR AND PARALYZE EVERYDAY LIFE and civic participation IN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, in our SCHOOLS, AND IN WORKPLACES. The federal government’s failure to address the violent conditions that are causing women and children to flee in the first place mean that these raids are a complete and utter policy failure." "Central American students WILL BE KEPT AWAY FROM SCHOOLS for fear that they, too, will be detained and deported." "parents WILL FEAR SENDING their children TO SCHOOL or TO A MEDICAL APPOINTMENT. These proposed immigration raids will serve only to confuse immigrant communities about AN ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS detained and SEPARATED OUR FAMILIES IN RECORD NUMBERS"link - ACLU June 15, 2011 link - ACLU November 29, 2012 "Two and a half years into the president's tenure, the true story of the administration's immigration enforcement practices is in fact a disheartening one dominated by the DEPORTATIONS OF FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTORS NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW.""the mantra of targeting doesn't hide a senseless DRAGNET OPERATION in the field that's taking place at a time when violent crime rates are the lowest in 40 years." "The Obama administration had deported more than 779,000 people at its midpoint, an 18 percent increase over President George W. Bush's last two years in office. MORE THAN HALF – 450,000 people – HAD NO CRIMINAL RECORD, precisely the "families . . . folks who are just looking to scrape together an income," described by President Obama." "How is this happening when the president is on record with a pledge to change immigration enforcement practices? He said on the campaign trail:" "DHS also continues to expand ICE's Secure Communities initiative recklessly, WITHOUT PRIORITIZING DANGEROUS CONVICTED CRIMINALS"From the ACLU: THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATIONFAMILY SEPARATIONSAN ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS detained and SEPARATED OUR FAMILIES IN RECORD NUMBERSDUE PROCESS VIOLATIONSMILITARY-STYLE RAIDS AGAINST MOTHERS AND CHILDREN FLEEING VIOLENCE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ENGAGE IN A PR STUNT SERVES ONLY TO CREATE FEAR AND PARALYZE EVERYDAY LIFE and civic participation IN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, in our SCHOOLS, AND IN WORKPLACES. WILL BE KEPT AWAY FROM SCHOOLS for fear WILL FEAR SENDING their children TO SCHOOL or TO A MEDICAL APPOINTMENT DEPORTATIONS OF FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTORS NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW." DRAGNET OPERATION that's taking place at a time when violent crime rates are the lowest in 40 years MORE THAN HALF – 450,000 people – HAD NO CRIMINAL RECORD, precisely the "families . . . folks who are just looking to scrape together an income," described by President Obama WITHOUT PRIORITIZING DANGEROUS CONVICTED CRIMINALS" WIDESPREAD ABUSE AND DENIAL OF BASIC RIGHTS, "Immigrants who do not pose any risk are being routinely detained" THE GOVERNMENT FAILS TO PROVIDE DETAINEES WITH THE BASIC DUE PROCESS of a bond hearing to determine whether they even need to be locked up in the first place. "Immigrants (AND EVEN SOME U.S. CITIZENS) DENIAL OF MEDICAL SERVICES, POOR SANITATION CONDITIONS, ABUSIVE TREATMENT by detention officers UNREASONABLE RESTRICTIONS ON FAMILY VISITS." 39-year-old immigrant, DIED of a treatable heart infection was HAPPENING ON A SYSTEMATIC BASIS." HORRIBLE SANITARY CONDITIONS FOOD ON DIRTY TRAYS WORMS IN FOOD AND FAUCETS OVERCROWDED CELLS, including some with 10 men and only one toilet VERBAL ABUSE, including RACIAL AND ETHNIC SLURS as well as DEROGATORY COMMENTS BASED ON IMMIGRATION STATUS PHYSICAL ABUSE BEING THROWN AGAINST WALLS by guards. "JUST A FEW EXAMPLES FOR EVERY REPORTED INCIDENT THERE ARE MANY MORE where the VICTIMS REMAIN SILENT FOR FEAR OF"
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Post by quinlove on Aug 12, 2025 2:09:12 GMT
We are witnessing the destruction of the USA right before our eyes. And Trump is stepping in to fix it all. You obviously consider an autocratic regime is the answer. Ok then. I did not drink the kool aid.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 12, 2025 2:36:03 GMT
Okay, what do you suggest needs to be done? I think a big part of the issue is degradation of society. The US has always been more of an individualistic society (as opposed to the collectivism common in some other countries). That has served us well in some aspects, but I think we are at a crossroads where it is starting to hurt us. What are the reasons that people steal things? They want or need the item. All of the people involved in smash and grab or organized retail theft are not stealing one item that they need. They are filling large bags and making a living out of it in cities that have policies that have a set amount that if you stay under they won't stay in jail. They're free to go out and do it again and again and again. Some of them in the hundreds of arrests per person. Changing the laws so that when you get caught stealing you aren't free to go out and do it again a day or two later. Also need to get rid of cashless bail. It doesn't work the way it was intended. If the stores don't do anything it's because they know they'll just be back again and again and again. So they are forced to lock up some items and/or close the business. ETA: iamkristinl16, thank you, I do appreciate the conversation vs. personal attacks.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 12, 2025 2:37:22 GMT
And Trump is stepping in to fix it all. You obviously consider an autocratic regime is the answer. Ok then. I did not drink the kool aid. Where were your posts when it was happening under Obama?
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Post by quinlove on Aug 12, 2025 2:50:25 GMT
You obviously consider an autocratic regime is the answer. Ok then. I did not drink the kool aid. Where were your posts when it was happening under Obama? Your racist reply is noted - I refuse to roll around in the mud with you. corrected wording.
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Post by Merge on Aug 12, 2025 2:56:34 GMT
You obviously consider an autocratic regime is the answer. Ok then. I did not drink the kool aid. Where were your posts when it was happening under Obama? If it was all just the same under Obama, why did Republicans hate him? Sounds like he was doing everything right by your standards.
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Post by Merge on Aug 12, 2025 3:00:05 GMT
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Post by glory77 on Aug 12, 2025 3:00:41 GMT
I know all I need to know about anyone using more energy worrying about immigrants that came into our country ILLEGALLY, then the crime that is happening in this country and affecting all Americans. And I believe the conditions these illegals are living in inside these detention centers are far better than the conditions they came from. I believe they are being treated humanely while they are being detained. Maybe not 5 star hotels like our previous administration put them in, but they have cots to sleep on and are being fed until they are sent back where they came from. And remember, they broke OUR laws by coming here illegally, so they SHOULD be detained IN lock down, like Americans that are in prisons for breaking laws. Don’t want to be detained and deported? Don’t break our laws and come here illegally. If you ladies that are screaming about allowing these illegals to stay in our country were the victim of a crime by them or one of your family members were a victim, you’d feel differently. So yes, I’m definitely more concerned about all crime in this country being committed by illegals and by Americans against our fellow citizens than I am worried about illegals being detained and deported. And yes, not all illegals are criminals and some just want to come here for a better life. But they need to come through the proper channels and be vetted so we can be sure we’re not allowing more criminals and therefore more crime into our country.
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Post by Zee on Aug 12, 2025 3:01:27 GMT
You obviously consider an autocratic regime is the answer. Ok then. I did not drink the kool aid. Where were your posts when it was happening under Obama? Wait... The same Obama who did nothing about crime? That one? You'll have to make up your mind which version you want to go with.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 12, 2025 3:06:00 GMT
Where were your posts when it was happening under Obama? Your racist reply is noted - I refuse to roll around in the mud with you. corrected wording. Nothing I said had anything to do with race. WTH are you talking about?
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 12, 2025 3:07:39 GMT
Where were your posts when it was happening under Obama? Wait... The same Obama who did nothing about crime? That one? You'll have to make up your mind which version you want to go with. I never said he did nothing about crime.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 12, 2025 3:15:05 GMT
Where were your posts when it was happening under Obama? If it was all just the same under Obama, why did Republicans hate him? Sounds like he was doing everything right by your standards. Where were YOUR outrage posts when it was happening under Obama? 🦗🦗🦗
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 12, 2025 4:17:44 GMT
What are the blue cities “where the criminals have taken over everything?” Yeah, when I was in NYC last week it was grim. Criminals with weapons prowling the streets, New Yorkers cowering in terror… Same in the burned out husk that is Portland. Just came back from the downtown area. It was like Mad Max down there. Saying that crime has taken over blue cities is clearly a Faux News talking point. Cowbell/Cindosha/Lauren/Gia have no idea what is really going on and despite first hand reports from people in the areas they won't believe it because it goes against what the Tangerine Terror is telling them. Portland is just fine thank you very much and we appreciate all the Magats believing what they believe and staying the hell out of our city.
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Post by sassyangel on Aug 12, 2025 4:28:31 GMT
Yeah, when I was in NYC last week it was grim. Criminals with weapons prowling the streets, New Yorkers cowering in terror… Same in the burned out husk that is Portland. Just came back from the downtown area. It was like Mad Max down there. Saying that crime has taken over blue cities is clearly a Faux News talking point. Cowbell/Cindosha/Lauren/Gia have no idea what is really going on and despite first hand reports from people in the areas they won't believe it because it goes against what the Tangerine Terror is telling them. Portland is just fine thank you very much and we appreciate all the Magats believing what they believe and staying the hell out of our city. Now that I live in the PNW I’ve been there a few times. I like Portland a lot. It’s my favorite weird city to visit.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2025 4:29:39 GMT
And after the 'speech'..... youtu.be/B2U8tre0vic?feature=sharedFollowing Attorney General Pam Bondi's contribution to Donald Trump's rambling press conference on Monday, MSNBC reporter Jonathan Allen — a lifelong resident of Washington D.C. — expressed dismay and disgust with comments she made about his hometown. *** "I mean, I have lived in the Washington metropolitan area for my entire life, almost 50 years now," he began. "I've lived in the city for 20 years. The most violent moment in my life in Washington, D.C., the greatest cause of a threat, not only physical threat, but bigger threat to the country and certainly to law enforcement officers was January 6th, 2021, when Donald Trump's supporters, his allies, some people who currently work for him charged into the Capitol, beat cops, screamed profanities at them and yelled, 'Kill the cops,' said they wanted to hang the vice president of the United States." *** "Just one other thing with the perspective of having been a Washingtonian for all my life," he elaborated. "The idea that this is the worst D.C. has ever been is insane! We had a mayor who was smoking crack; Washington, D.C. Mayor Marion Berry, who was caught smoking crack at the time many of the parks that Donald Trump and [Interior Secretary] Doug Burgum were just talking about, were open-air drug markets, and you had homicide rates that were much higher in the in 1980s than they are now." www.rawstory.com/bondi-dc-crime/![]()
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Post by sassyangel on Aug 12, 2025 4:44:04 GMT
keriwest . Your MO for over a decade has been to drop a turd and never come back to respond.... if you happen to *feel* like coming back, I am curious what names Harris called the president-elect? ETA: and true to form, keriwest deleted her post. Typical. Just typical. And my quote of it disappeared as a result. Basically she said that Harris has called the current president-elect names during the campaign. When pushed back with requests to back that statement up with examples, she retreats. Knowing her posting style (check it out yourself) over the last 20+ years - back to the old peas site, she'll disappear for months, if not a year or more, but she'll be back at some point to make more posts supporting him and incorrectly whatabouting anyone who didn't vote for him. Found this post from michym nailing keriwests MO while I was trying to figure out exactly which pea Glory77 used to be. Comical how still 100% predictable she is.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 12, 2025 4:45:59 GMT
That’s not what I’m referring to. I’m referring to making every aspect of our society political. Whether that is a pandemic, vaccines, who marries who, what bathroom someone uses, pride flags, all are welcome here signs, racism, homelessness, education, books, mental health care, medical care, whether someone has blue hair, whether criminal activity and sexual assault is ok or not, the American flag, red hats, certain singers and actors, corruption, and on and on. Every single aspect of our daily lives is political now, thanks to the right. All they do is make a problem where there wasn’t one in order to rile you up and keep you from focusing on the real issues that we have in this country. I feel the same with the Left that inserts race into everything, including when race isn't even present. Like what just happened in this thread.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2025 4:59:20 GMT
Lawyer Marc Elias suggests FF will expand his take over to spread from one city to the next and in and on... A progressive lawyer issued a stark warning on Monday after President Donald Trump announced he was federalizing the Washington, D.C. police force. "These are dangerous times we live in," Marc Elias, a voting rights lawyer and founder of Democracy Docket, told progressive YouTuber Brian Tyler Cohen on his show "No Lies." *** To Elias, Trump was priming the American people to be used to seeing military officers working with local police. "All of this is in furtherance of his efforts to undermine democracy, undermine the rule of law, to squelch and intimidate people who are willing to stand up and speak out, to intimidate and have large institutions, the legacy media, the universities, and the institutions all bow down," Elias added. "Free and fair elections are the crowned jewel, the cornerstone of what he wants to undermine." www.rawstory.com/these-are-dangerous-times-lawyer-warns-trump-escalating-fight-with-law-enforcement/Longer video. About 17 minutes . youtu.be/l8YSWvF1FZ8?si=2uvbO9GAniR54FxK
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Post by quinlove on Aug 12, 2025 5:07:02 GMT
Your racist reply is noted - I refuse to roll around in the mud with you. corrected wording. Nothing I said had anything to do with race. WTH are you talking about? I apologize for making that leap.
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Post by Skellinton on Aug 12, 2025 5:17:52 GMT
Same in the burned out husk that is Portland. Just came back from the downtown area. It was like Mad Max down there. Saying that crime has taken over blue cities is clearly a Faux News talking point. Cowbell/Cindosha/Lauren/Gia have no idea what is really going on and despite first hand reports from people in the areas they won't believe it because it goes against what the Tangerine Terror is telling them. Portland is just fine thank you very much and we appreciate all the Magats believing what they believe and staying the hell out of our city. Now that I live in the PNW I’ve been there a few times. I like Portland a lot. It’s my favorite weird city to visit. I did see a man in a Marge Simpson wig! Most Portland thing I saw today.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2025 7:07:45 GMT
What FF is not saying out loud is that many homeless are veterans and/or those with mental health illnesses... But he and his administration insist they support veterans...
Cutting funding for veterans and others who are mentally ill ..
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 12, 2025 7:48:02 GMT
If you look up “which cities have the most crime” you will see a lot of cities that I don’t consider to be “blue” and are not in “blue states.” None of this is about actual crime though.
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Post by compeateropeator on Aug 12, 2025 9:30:45 GMT
She would probably end up saying "that was not what he meant", "that was taken out of context", "he was joking". Seriously, the denial, stupidity and blind devotion is strong. You mean like when he said it sarcastically "on day one" and you all took it and ran with it as your newest (laughable) toy weapon. I was out but got pulled in…almost like Hotel California.🙄😉. Well it was not ‘sarcastically’ that he said ‘on day one’. If you listen to him and his many speeches (which I have), he is basically saying he can fix all the stuff IMMEDIATELY. While ‘day one’ was probably a bit of hyperbole and obvious to most logical thinkers, I really think Trump thought he could do it in his little narcissistic mind…and he was really campaigning on that. And many MAGA supporters believed him. Go back and look at everything he vowed to fix on ‘day one’. If you want, one of these days coming up (now that I am unemployed after 23 years at the same place and the Trump economy making things golden for me), I will go through a bunch of his speeches, truth social post, etc, and document for you the number of times he said he could fix something on ‘day one’ and if you listen to the tone it was not SARCASTIC. So anyone bringing this up took nothing and ran with it…if anything Trump took it and ran with it over and over and over. And we are told if Trump says it, he means it and will do it. So do I believe what he tells me or not? Inquiring minds want to know (my current new phrase)?
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Post by Merge on Aug 12, 2025 10:20:13 GMT
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Post by Merge on Aug 12, 2025 10:24:16 GMT
That’s not what I’m referring to. I’m referring to making every aspect of our society political. Whether that is a pandemic, vaccines, who marries who, what bathroom someone uses, pride flags, all are welcome here signs, racism, homelessness, education, books, mental health care, medical care, whether someone has blue hair, whether criminal activity and sexual assault is ok or not, the American flag, red hats, certain singers and actors, corruption, and on and on. Every single aspect of our daily lives is political now, thanks to the right. All they do is make a problem where there wasn’t one in order to rile you up and keep you from focusing on the real issues that we have in this country. I feel the same with the Left that inserts race into everything, including when race isn't even present. Like what just happened in this thread. Perhaps if the right wasn’t openly and actively working to make this a nation for whites only, people wouldn’t be so inclined to believe the worst of your intentions.
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Post by Merge on Aug 12, 2025 10:29:00 GMT
If it was all just the same under Obama, why did Republicans hate him? Sounds like he was doing everything right by your standards. Where were YOUR outrage posts when it was happening under Obama? 🦗🦗🦗 You’re deflecting. Answer the question. Why did the Republicans hate Obama if he was doing everything just as Trump is doing? I seem to recall in the recent past pointing out that it cannot simultaneously be true that the Democrats were soft on immigration *and* that enforcement efforts and detention camps were just as bad under Biden and Obama. So which is it? You never answered that either. From my perspective, if the Dems were as soft on everything as you have claimed, what reason would I have had for outrage?
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