raindancer
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Post by raindancer on Jul 6, 2014 18:41:50 GMT
My dd is 12 and has really thick hair that is also really long. She recently had it thinned out and layered a bit, but she is still really struggling with figuring out how to get her scalp clean. It gets build up and just smells bad. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/mYSUyHtG9Jrcmm_ydVcK.jpg) She does not use product, other than shampoo and conditioner. The conditioner is reserved for the hair below her ears and she doesn't put it on her scalp at all. I have tried so many different suggestions, but now she is just getting annoyed with me. Does anyone have a tried and true method or way of explaining it so she can really get her head clean and smelling good? Maybe someone else can put it in a different way that will help her figure it out.
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Post by TankTop on Jul 6, 2014 18:46:13 GMT
Have her try using conditioner on the top. Dd had this issue and as soon as she started using the conditioner on the scalp it was rinsing better.
Also, have her use a clarifying shampoo once or twice a week on her scalp.
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Post by TankTop on Jul 6, 2014 18:47:01 GMT
I wanted to add that dd had this issue at the same age as your dd. I think it is partially hormonal.
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Post by ingrid on Jul 6, 2014 19:01:28 GMT
I had to teach my son to really scrub his scalp. Not deep digging with his nails but a light, circular little scratching motion with his fingers. My mom bought me tea tree oil-based shampoo when I was around eleven or twelve to help with the same issue your DD is having and I never had build up after that. It doesn't sound like dandruff, but maybe give that Neutrogena T-gel stuff a shot if you don't have luck with tea tree oil (which you can find at Sally's for a reasonable price that's of very good quality).
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Post by Lovebug2867 on Jul 6, 2014 19:08:38 GMT
I have thick hair and I have to agree with the you really have to scrub your scalp. It also takes longer to wash thick hair and even longer to completely rinse it. I also second the Neutrogena T-gel it's some good stuff.
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Post by raindancer on Jul 6, 2014 19:08:55 GMT
Ok, I will try the conditioner on top and tee tree oil shampoo. I have tried showing her and "demonstrating" out of the shower with my hands how to wash it and she is saying that she "IS doing it that way!!!"
I am trying to not exasperate her or nag, but it really smells bad when she sits next to me, and with school starting up in a week and her bike riding to school in the heat, I know she is going to hear about it at school from peers. I don't want that for her. Especially because I know she showers daily and is *very* concerned with appearance now.
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Post by conchita on Jul 6, 2014 19:10:11 GMT
I'll second that it must be hormonal. My teen son has the same issue with his very thick hair. He uses a 2 in 1 Shampoo and Conditioner as well as a Tea Tree Oil Conditioner. That has helped tremendously with the buildup and odor. Maybe have your daughter shampoo twice?
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 6, 2014 19:11:27 GMT
It happens to boys too...I always thought that it had more to do with hormones changing than anything else. Once they got through the voice changing part, it stopped.
I also had a kid that was the single worse hair washer I have ever seen. He could "wash" his hair and get out of the shower with a greasier head than he had getting in. There was no amount of gentle (and sometimes, stellar mom that I am, not so gentle) guidance that made a difference. It was a trip to a stylist, a really cute, young, rather boobilicious stylist that finally made an impact. When I called to make the appointment, I had a discrete word with her about teaching him how to wash his hair. Apparently, it is not uncommon, as she knew right away what I meant.
Maybe an appointment with a stylist would help? Hearing any thing from someone other than mom seems to get pre-teens and teens to listen with a more open opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 19:15:06 GMT
Question "Do you have long, thick hair?" No. I wish I did though. I am losing tons of hair by the minute.
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Post by rst on Jul 6, 2014 19:19:24 GMT
I used to fill a deep basin with cool water and about a cup of apple cider vinegar. Then bend over at the waist and soak my head in the vinegar solution for a minute or so. It gets residues out of your hair, cleans the scalp, and leaves hair shiny and soft. Worth a try.
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Post by freebird on Jul 6, 2014 19:26:14 GMT
I used to fill a deep basin with cool water and about a cup of apple cider vinegar. Then bend over at the waist and soak my head in the vinegar solution for a minute or so. It gets residues out of your hair, cleans the scalp, and leaves hair shiny and soft. Worth a try. RST OP, if you let your daughter color her hair, vinegar will strip the color. Apple cider vinegar is awesome stuff though.
I have long hair and it's medium thickness (used to be crazy thick until I had kids). I have to really get in there and scrub (and for more than 10 seconds btw). Sometimes I'll wash it twice. I never put conditioner on my scalp ever. Also, I only wash my hair about every 5 days or so. I think people tend to overwash and then your scalp/hair goes into overdrive trying to make up for lost oils.
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Post by stephofalltrades on Jul 6, 2014 19:42:50 GMT
If all of the above does not work and she had a sort of waxy build up, especially around the crown, it is most definitely a hormonal over production of sebum. I changed my contraceptives last fall and no matter what I did, my hair was oily and waxy at the crown and in the back. After much research, I used a hot oil treatment. Its equivalent to using a makeup remover to get off caked on mascara. I mixed a little olive oil and coconut oil, warmed them slightly in the microwave and dumped it on my head, massaged into the scalp and combed through. I left it on for about 30 minutes. After I shampooed twice and conditioned as normal, it was the cleanest my hair had been in 2 months. Just make sure the shower is cleaned out thoroughly afterward. Our drain is slow and I didn't realize how much oily residue was left and DH nearly killed himself when he got in it later. Oops. ![:blush:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/R6yG4nI0YHiVm0wktwl4.jpg)
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Post by conchita on Jul 6, 2014 20:50:44 GMT
If all of the above does not work and she had a sort of waxy build up, especially around the crown, it is most definitely a hormonal over production of sebum. I changed my contraceptives last fall and no matter what I did, my hair was oily and waxy at the crown and in the back. After much research, I used a hot oil treatment. Its equivalent to using a makeup remover to get off caked on mascara. I mixed a little olive oil and coconut oil, warmed them slightly in the microwave and dumped it on my head, massaged into the scalp and combed through. I left it on for about 30 minutes. After I shampooed twice and conditioned as normal, it was the cleanest my hair had been in 2 months. Just make sure the shower is cleaned out thoroughly afterward. Our drain is slow and I didn't realize how much oily residue was left and DH nearly killed himself when he got in it later. Oops. ![:blush:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/R6yG4nI0YHiVm0wktwl4.jpg) Thanks for the hot oil treatment tip! My hair has changed a lot, also due to hormonal changes and I want my thick, glossy hair back. Also, thanks to the other posters for their tips which I will be using with my teen son.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 6, 2014 21:15:47 GMT
Maybe her stylist can talk to her if you give her a heads up? Also make sure that it is just buildup and not a form or psoriasis or anything.
I have very thick hair. DH used to have very thick hair. DD has very thick hair and it is long. Used to be very long now it is just about 4 inches below her shoulders. She use to have issues with her hair not smelling clean and looking greasy or matted even when she did shampoo it. No amount of 'maybe you should …" was accepted she just got mad if anyone mentioned it. Then one day her stylist calmly explained to her how to clean her thick hair, She just said she noticed some buildup and then she told DD what to do about it.
Shampoo twice. Rinse very well each time with a hand held shower head if possible. 2 times a week with a clarifying shampoo. Use conditioner, comb conditioner thru in the shower. Really clean your scalp. Then again rinse well while still combing it thru. Then one last thorough cool rinse with the hand held shower head.
I could have said this or that until I was blue in the face and DD would not have listened to me. But DD has a young 20 something stylist with long hair. So it was like a friendly chat, with an 'expert' who actually knows what she's talking about.:eyeroll: Because as mom, I can tell you I certainly do not know what I am talking about on any subject, if you ask my teens.
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Post by eversograceful1 on Jul 6, 2014 21:20:03 GMT
I have to turn my hair upside down to get it clean. It's also really important to rinse completely.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 21:29:55 GMT
I also turn my head upside down to scrub it. I wash it twice. Once standing up and once with my head upside down. I rinse both ways too. I also use a scalp massaging brush with the shampoo in my hair. Something like this scalp brush
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Post by ihaveonly1l on Jul 6, 2014 21:34:32 GMT
My hair is so thick that I can wash it and it will be wet underneath for HOURS...I can wash it in the evening and it will still be wet underneath the next morning. Sometimes if it takes so long to dry, I feel like it starts to smell "moldy". The catch is, that it looks and styles better if I wash it and sleep on it. It seems to help flatten it. Right now it's only a little shorter than shoulder length, but when it is long I have to blow dry it after I wash it so that it dries and doesn't have time to get smelly.
I usually use a blow drier with a diffuser.
Everyone has always said that someday I will be thankful for my thick hair. I'm still waiting for that day!
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