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Post by caro on Feb 2, 2015 21:49:09 GMT
Is on life support with very low brain activity according to our local news. This is local to me and I pass by the hospital most days. News trucks are camped out across from the hospital.
4:00 News today said family will be making decisions on her life soon. I am so sad for her and her family.
Three years almost to the day since her mom was found in a similar situation. Bath tub full of water.
Bobbi Kristina must have been in so much pain and grief and particularly anticipatory grief over the anniversary of her mom's death. Such a shame.
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Post by disneypal on Feb 2, 2015 21:53:03 GMT
I feel for her family - such a sad situation (local for me too - I'm not to far from the hospital either). I am sure losing her mother at a young age had to be so difficult. From what I've heard on the local news, it seems that the family is going to have to decide if she should be removed from life support. So young, how sad.  |
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Post by epeanymous on Feb 2, 2015 21:54:27 GMT
I think what seems so tragic to me about her death is that we have (and really always have had) such a culture of celebrity, and you see how miserable the lives of some of the people reared in it seem to turn out to be. Yes, her parents are/were icons, but they were also drug addicts with a volatile relationship who put those things on shout on television with her incorporated, and she obviously had to cope with her mother's very public death at a vulnerable age.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 21:59:54 GMT
I know this is wrong and very "judgey" but this falls squarely on the shoulders of her mother and father's need for drugs more than their need to be a parent to her.
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Post by caro on Feb 2, 2015 22:00:47 GMT
Her mom and dad's drug abuse makes me very angry. I realize they both were addicts and I realize it's supposed to be so hard to get beyond drug abuse but......... They could afford to get the very best help for their addiction. Did they? Did they give thought to this child they brought into this world and how it would affect her life?
She's 21 years old. Such a shame.
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Post by azredhead on Feb 2, 2015 22:11:24 GMT
TMZ live is reporting she had some sort of eye movement. Not saying it wasn't a grave but not terrible either. There was a thread
earlier about it.
ETA- they don't know what or if she will recover but that it was unexpected for that to happen
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Post by papersilly on Feb 2, 2015 22:14:29 GMT
I think they are saying there was enough minimal brain response to avoid discussing ending life support for now.
BTW, is the grandmother still alive? Whitney Houston's mom? Any response from her? I thought if anyone could provide that child with love and support, it would be her.
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Post by caro on Feb 2, 2015 22:18:49 GMT
The 5:00 news stated her dad, DH and aunt were by her side. She is in a medically induced coma to try to give her brain rest and hopeful healing. She had a lack of oxygen for about 5 to 8 minutes.
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Post by M~ on Feb 2, 2015 22:39:51 GMT
I know this is wrong and very "judgey" but this falls squarely on the shoulders of her mother and father's need for drugs more than their need to be a parent to her. Actually, no. Sorry to sound harsh, but Bobbi Kristina is an adult. This falls squarely on her lap. We all have obstacles to overcome, some more than others. It's up to us as adults to persevere regardless of how shitty our childhoods were. And many here have had horrific childhoods yet we manage to function as adults and have productive, healthy lives. At least she has a leg up from most of us in that she has the wealth to fix whatever problems she has. If she wanted to, that is. So, while it's sad, I don't feel sorry for her. Life is tough and she needs to have the strength of character to deal with that. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 22:48:20 GMT
I know this is wrong and very "judgey" but this falls squarely on the shoulders of her mother and father's need for drugs more than their need to be a parent to her. Actually, no. Sorry to sound harsh, but Bobbi Kristina is an adult. This falls squarely on her lap. We all have obstacles to overcome, some more than others. It's up to us as adults to persevere regardless of how shitty our childhoods were. And many here have had horrific childhoods yet we manage to function as adults and have productive, healthy lives. At least she has a leg up from most of us in that she has the wealth to fix whatever problems she has. If she wanted to, that is. So, while it's sad, I don't feel sorry for her. Life is tough and she needs to have the strength of character to deal with that. We can all have our own opinions, and this is mine. I also didnt say I felt sorry for her. |
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Post by scrappergonewild on Feb 2, 2015 22:51:25 GMT
I know this is wrong and very "judgey" but this falls squarely on the shoulders of her mother and father's need for drugs more than their need to be a parent to her. Actually, no. Sorry to sound harsh, but Bobbi Kristina is an adult. This falls squarely on her lap. We all have obstacles to overcome, some more than others. It's up to us as adults to persevere regardless of how shitty our childhoods were. And many here have had horrific childhoods yet we manage to function as adults and have productive, healthy lives. At least she has a leg up from most of us in that she has the wealth to fix whatever problems she has. If she wanted to, that is. So, while it's sad, I don't feel sorry for her. Life is tough and she needs to have the strength of character to deal with that. It isn't always that simple. Especially with addiction. It isn't always about strength of character. |
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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 2, 2015 22:51:51 GMT
I think that IS harsh in light of the situation. In a normal set of circumstances, expecting a 21 year old adult to make good choices is questionable at best. Regardless of legal age, 21 is still young. Combine that with the extremely public death of her mother? And her upbringing? I can only speculate what she went through as a child with 2 famous drug addicts as parents. While money is there to fix the problem, there is also money that makes the problem easier to hide and brings forth more people to manipulate the situation. She's a young woman. I hope for the best for her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 22:52:16 GMT
Very sad and I hope the news is better than all the rumors you read. I got to see her mother in concert in 1987 (long before she hooked up with Bobby Brown) and she was memorizing that night...her voice was incredible.
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Post by M~ on Feb 2, 2015 22:52:24 GMT
Actually, no. Sorry to sound harsh, but Bobbi Kristina is an adult. This falls squarely on her lap. We all have obstacles to overcome, some more than others. It's up to us as adults to persevere regardless of how shitty our childhoods were. And many here have had horrific childhoods yet we manage to function as adults and have productive, healthy lives. At least she has a leg up from most of us in that she has the wealth to fix whatever problems she has. If she wanted to, that is. So, while it's sad, I don't feel sorry for her. Life is tough and she needs to have the strength of character to deal with that. We can all have our own opinions, and this is mine. I also didnt say I felt sorry for her. I didn't say you did. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 2, 2015 23:32:59 GMT
I think what seems so tragic to me about her death is that we have (and really always have had) such a culture of celebrity, and you see how miserable the lives of some of the people reared in it seem to turn out to be. Yes, her parents are/were icons, but they were also drug addicts with a volatile relationship who put those things on shout on television with her incorporated, and she obviously had to cope with her mother's very public death at a vulnerable age. I think this is part of why I don't buy the gossip magazines or watch the celebrity shows. It would make me feel like I'm supporting the idolization, fan worship and media coverage. I do feel bad for her. My step-son lost his mother to cancer in November of 2011. He committed suicide the following June. She used him in her and dh's divorce and really messed him up. Because of the damage she did to him and his father's relationship he never recovered after losing her. Most parents don't set out to mess up their kids, but the do and it's not the kids fault even if they are of legal age. My dss was 22 when he took his own life. |
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Post by samcro on Feb 2, 2015 23:34:34 GMT
I thought that I read that this wasn't related to drugs or alcohol but rather was a medical thing. Was this updated to refute that?
I also read, regarding Cissy, that there were hard feelings between her and Bobbi Kristina over a book that Cissy released about the life of Whitney. Also that Cissy was upset with BK's choice of a husband because Whitney had raised him as her son but never really adopted him. Who knows.
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Post by lindy on Feb 2, 2015 23:35:02 GMT
I know this is wrong and very "judgey" but this falls squarely on the shoulders of her mother and father's need for drugs more than their need to be a parent to her. Actually, no. Sorry to sound harsh, but Bobbi Kristina is an adult. This falls squarely on her lap. We all have obstacles to overcome, some more than others. It's up to us as adults to persevere regardless of how shitty our childhoods were. And many here have had horrific childhoods yet we manage to function as adults and have productive, healthy lives. At least she has a leg up from most of us in that she has the wealth to fix whatever problems she has. If she wanted to, that is. So, while it's sad, I don't feel sorry for her. Life is tough and she needs to have the strength of character to deal with that. 21 is still damn young to deal with the loss of parent and probably a pretty crappy childhood. No amount of money can fix that. |
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Post by alittleintrepid on Feb 2, 2015 23:42:03 GMT
Actually, no. Sorry to sound harsh, but Bobbi Kristina is an adult. This falls squarely on her lap. We all have obstacles to overcome, some more than others. It's up to us as adults to persevere regardless of how shitty our childhoods were. And many here have had horrific childhoods yet we manage to function as adults and have productive, healthy lives. At least she has a leg up from most of us in that she has the wealth to fix whatever problems she has. If she wanted to, that is. So, while it's sad, I don't feel sorry for her. Life is tough and she needs to have the strength of character to deal with that. 21 is still damn young to deal with the loss of parent and probably a pretty crappy childhood. No amount of money can fix that.  |
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Post by M in Carolina on Feb 2, 2015 23:47:24 GMT
I thought that I read that this wasn't related to drugs or alcohol but rather was a medical thing. Was this updated to refute that? I also read, regarding Cissy, that there were hard feelings between her and Bobbi Kristina over a book that Cissy released about the life of Whitney. Also that Cissy was upset with BK's choice of a husband because Whitney had raised him as her son but never really adopted him. Who knows. I read that, too. My dad died of a massive stroke that affected his brain stem and killed the left hemisphere of his brain. The only reason he didn't die instantly was because he was sedated and on a vent in ICU following bypass surgery. In movies and on TV, they show the person on life support lying very peacefully and still. That's not true. There are a lot of muscle spasming and movements, yet the patient doesn't breathe over the vent, doesn't respond to stimuli, has no brain activity. My dad signed a living will stating he didn't want to stay on a vent. When I had my stroke, I was unable to communicate and was unable to move for a while. I didn't want my dad to live like that, so we followed his wishes. Meaningful recover is very slim. I know the family doesn't want to lose Bobbi Christina, but a life lying in a bed with no quality of life can be worse than death. I do feel sorry for the girl. Not only were her parents drug addicts and volatile with each other, they chose fame over doing what was right for their daughter--they had their reality TV shows and cameras following them everywhere. I don't think this girl had a chance at a normal life. |
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Post by Blind Squirrel on Feb 2, 2015 23:51:47 GMT
Such a sad situation.
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Post by monicad on Feb 2, 2015 23:58:15 GMT
I think what seems so tragic to me about her death is that we have (and really always have had) such a culture of celebrity, and you see how miserable the lives of some of the people reared in it seem to turn out to be. Yes, her parents are/were icons, but they were also drug addicts with a volatile relationship who put those things on shout on television with her incorporated, and she obviously had to cope with her mother's very public death at a vulnerable age. I think this is part of why I don't buy the gossip magazines or watch the celebrity shows. It would make me feel like I'm supporting the idolization, fan worship and media coverage. I do feel bad for her. My step-son lost his mother to cancer in November of 2011. He committed suicide the following June. She used him in her and dh's divorce and really messed him up. Because of the damage she did to him and his father's relationship he never recovered after losing her. Most parents don't set out to mess up their kids, but the do and it's not the kids fault even if they are of legal age. My dss was 22 when he took his own life. Dori--I'm so sorry for your loss. How awful for your stepson and your entire family. |
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Post by mallie on Feb 3, 2015 0:03:39 GMT
As the old saying goes, "Children learn what they live." Part of the problem of being brought up by addicts, let alone wealthy celebrity addicts, is that the child simply does not have any concept of normal, functional life. The child finds it nearly impossible to "fix" themselves because they don't know what's broken. They don't know what their goals should be. When you are brought up in such dysfunction by irresponsible self-absorbed addicts, you often don't even know what the word responsibility is because it hasn't been lived in front of you. It's easy to say that the adult child should simply take responsibility, but when you don't know what a healthy life is because you haven't lived it, what does taking responsibiity even mean?
It's like if you were plopped down in an entirely different culture and just had to figure it out on your own -- how to communicate, how to deal with the social rules, etc. Odds are without a lot of help, you wouldn't be very successful. Worse of all, if you don't know how to communicate in that culture, you wouldn't know how to ask for help or who is a good choice to ask for help from.
Such adult children are often a stranger in a strange land when it comes to trying to make it in the "normal" world.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Feb 3, 2015 0:22:23 GMT
Take away the fame and millions of dollars and I can relate to this girl is every aspect including finding a parent dead at a young age its not something you bounce back from...it screws you up. I do feel for her I truley do but at the same time there comes a point and time when you have to take responsibility for your actions. I do 100% believe addiction is a disease and can be passed onto children so its not surprising she has had issues with drugs (past or present) but she has to want to change no one can do it for her. She has the financial means to change her life around and get help not everyone has this.
I have read from a few sites her DH may not actually be her husband. Her family can't find any marriage license. Granted this is all rumors but I hope it's true because I do not believe this guy is good for her at all...but she chose to be with him (possibly married him) and hopefully she will bounce back from this and realize he is unhealthy for her.
I remember watching the reality show her she was in after get mom died. I had so many mixed feelings about it because
1. Her mother had passed not long after. This girl didn't need to be in a show she needed privacy.
2. Her Aunt seemed like a stable person in her life trying to be there for Bobbi but its was plain as day Bobbi didn't want any help. Maybe the Aunt being there for her was all for the show..I have no idea.
I pray this girl gets another chance at life and this isn't the end for her. I pray she bounces back from this and wants to change her life and the bad influences surrounding her. That's all on her though if she wants to change.
Just my .2
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Feb 3, 2015 0:24:02 GMT
I think what seems so tragic to me about her death is that we have (and really always have had) such a culture of celebrity, and you see how miserable the lives of some of the people reared in it seem to turn out to be. Yes, her parents are/were icons, but they were also drug addicts with a volatile relationship who put those things on shout on television with her incorporated, and she obviously had to cope with her mother's very public death at a vulnerable age. I think this is part of why I don't buy the gossip magazines or watch the celebrity shows. It would make me feel like I'm supporting the idolization, fan worship and media coverage. I do feel bad for her. My step-son lost his mother to cancer in November of 2011. He committed suicide the following June. She used him in her and dh's divorce and really messed him up. Because of the damage she did to him and his father's relationship he never recovered after losing her. Most parents don't set out to mess up their kids, but the do and it's not the kids fault even if they are of legal age. My dss was 22 when he took his own life. I'm very sorry for your loss ❤ |
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Post by TankTop on Feb 3, 2015 0:33:00 GMT
Such a shame.
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Post by M~ on Feb 3, 2015 0:33:58 GMT
As the old saying goes, "Children learn what they live." Part of the problem of being brought up by addicts, let alone wealthy celebrity addicts, is that the child simply does not have any concept of normal, functional life. The child finds it nearly impossible to "fix" themselves because they don't know what's broken. They don't know what their goals should be. When you are brought up in such dysfunction by irresponsible self-absorbed addicts, you often don't even know what the word responsibility is because it hasn't been lived in front of you. It's easy to say that the adult child should simply take responsibility, but when you don't know what a healthy life is because you haven't lived it, what does taking responsibiity even mean? It's like if you were plopped down in an entirely different culture and just had to figure it out on your own -- how to communicate, how to deal with the social rules, etc. Odds are without a lot of help, you wouldn't be very successful. Worse of all, if you don't know how to communicate in that culture, you wouldn't know how to ask for help or who is a good choice to ask for help from. Such adult children are often a stranger in a strange land when it comes to trying to make it in the "normal" world. I disagree with you. Not every child "learns what they live." My half brother's father was a wife beater. And he abused my 2 half-sisters horribly. Following your logic, he was destined to be a wife and child abuser. He isn't. I don't think you can find a better husband or father than he is. My cousin's father was a serial cheater. His mother beat the crap out of him. He neither cheats on his wife nor beats or her or his kids. Again, he's a model parent and father. This is like saying every child who has a drug addict for a mother or father "don't know better so they don't do better." Or a child whose parents didn't know how to read or write will be illiterate as well. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of people who made a better life than their parents had. Who made better husbands or wives, or sisters or brothers, than what they were shown as children. To say otherwise is offensive, IMHO. |
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Post by spitfiregirl on Feb 3, 2015 1:05:19 GMT
Money may have been part of the downfall. What does a young woman with tons of money have to focus on? They don't have to find a job , a career, or anything. People want to be around you because of your money . This girl got a set of problems very difficult to deal with. Sometimes people with drug addict parents learn what they don't want to be when they grow up. Her downfall is also the addiction in her genes. She got a double dose of it from her famous parents.
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Post by annabella on Feb 3, 2015 1:06:24 GMT
Honestly this sounds immature, how can you boycott something you didn't read? I read the reviews on amazon and people said it was no "tell-all", nothing new the public didn't already know, not disrespectful to Whitney and the book was mostly about Cissy.
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Post by anonrefugee on Feb 3, 2015 1:12:25 GMT
I thought it was disgusting how every news report I happened to hear, car radio or TV news, said the family requested privacy simultaneously giving details about her.
This girl isn't piblicnperson, a performer,. It's sad, but what's up with our country when Snoop dog lion grandchild is announced as major news and something like this gets constant coverage?
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Post by christine58 on Feb 3, 2015 1:16:55 GMT
I think what seems so tragic to me about her death is that we have (and really always have had) such a culture of celebrity, and you see how miserable the lives of some of the people reared in it seem to turn out to be. Yes, her parents are/were icons, but they were also drug addicts with a volatile relationship who put those things on shout on television with her incorporated, and she obviously had to cope with her mother's very public death at a vulnerable age. I think this is part of why I don't buy the gossip magazines or watch the celebrity shows. It would make me feel like I'm supporting the idolization, fan worship and media coverage. I do feel bad for her. My step-son lost his mother to cancer in November of 2011. He committed suicide the following June. She used him in her and dh's divorce and really messed him up. Because of the damage she did to him and his father's relationship he never recovered after losing her. Most parents don't set out to mess up their kids, but the do and it's not the kids fault even if they are of legal age. My dss was 22 when he took his own life. I am so sorry about your DSS.... |
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