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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:20:51 GMT
*I did not come here for a PVM, I came here because I was so freaked out about that little boy and upset for him. I had to describe the woman to the police when I called. I am no skinny minny so dont ASSume I was downing her about her weight it was the overall visual of someone so big hurting someone so small.But , you all are correct and I am wrong for describing the woman. Gosh, I should have just let her continue to abuse that child. I know better next time. And with that I am out.
*edited* wow some of you are really priceless. You are concerned about how I describe the woman as apposed to the pain she was inflicting on him??!! What ever.
I took my mom to a Dr. Appointment. There was a very heavy set older woman there with a small boy, maybe 3 or 4. He started to cry, not very loud, and she told him to stop. After a while she got very physical with him causing him to cry more. She was squeezing his arms so hard it was digging into his arm. She had him by the collar of his little button down shirt and was twisting it till he was making choking noises while he was crying. I went up and told the receptionist and asked if there was security in the building. There was not, and she was reluctant to get involved.
The woman kept man handling the small boy and telling him she would take him to the bathroom to beat him if he didnt stop crying. Then she grabbed his ear and yanked and twisted, took him outside the office and slapped him. I heard the slap. The other people in the waiting room did nothing.
I thought for a minute, but had to call police. I thought if she is this physical in public what does she do behind closed doors. I was shaking so bad, and border line panic attack at this point.
The woman was called back into the Dr. office and my mom and I where on our way out when the police got there.
I gave them my name and number, told them what I saw and they contacted Childrens Protective Services.
I sure hope that little boy is ok and I didnt make it worse for him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:25:27 GMT
Thanks for calling!
What does being heavy set have to do with any of this, though?
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Post by shescrafty on Feb 10, 2015 17:25:48 GMT
Good for you! I can't imagine that at the doctor's office they are not mandatory reporters.  I hope the others there would act as witnesses as well if asked to-especially the receptionist. |
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Post by lucyg on Feb 10, 2015 17:25:52 GMT
I think if a child is being hurt (and it's more than just run-of-the-mill parental discipline) you have to call the police.
But I have a couple of questions. Did you not bring this up with the doctor? It was happening in his or her front office. The receptionist is not in charge.
And what does the woman being "heavy-set" (I'm assuming that's a euphemism for fat) have to do with anything?
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Feb 10, 2015 17:29:02 GMT
I would think everyone in the Dr's office would be a mandated reporter. The receptionist should have done something if she had witnessed it, at least calling someone else in the office to step in or call authorities.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:29:19 GMT
Thanks for calling! What does being heavy set have to do with any of this, though? Because she had to be at least 300 lbs and she was squeezing the hell out of the little boys arms. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:29:40 GMT
I would think everyone in the Dr's office would be a mandated reporter. The receptionist should have done something if she had witnessed it, at least calling someone else in the office to step in or call authorities. Me too, that is why I went there first. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:30:23 GMT
Thanks for calling! What does being heavy set have to do with any of this, though? Because she had to be at least 300 lbs and she was squeezing the hell out of the little boys arms. Weight has nothing to do with abuse. A thin woman doing the same thing would have been OK?  |
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Feb 10, 2015 17:30:23 GMT
That poor child. I'm glad you called the police.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:31:45 GMT
I think if a child is being hurt (and it's more than just run-of-the-mill parental discipline) you have to call the police. But I have a couple of questions. Did you not bring this up with the doctor? It was happening in his or her front office. The receptionist is not in charge. And what does the woman being "heavy-set" (I'm assuming that's a euphemism for fat) have to do with anything? Did you read the op, I told the receptionist and the other lady behind the desk. I was not seeing the Dr. my mom was and I could not just barge in and get the Dr. to do something. Yes she was fat. At least 300 lbs in a gastro office and she towered over this LITTLE 3 or 4 year old boy. |
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Post by naby64 on Feb 10, 2015 17:32:02 GMT
Thanks for calling! What does being heavy set have to do with any of this, though? Because she had to be at least 300 lbs and she was squeezing the hell out of the little boys arms. I know of 120# people who are quite strong and could squeeze the hell out of my arms. So still not seeing the heavy comment. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:32:20 GMT
Because she had to be at least 300 lbs and she was squeezing the hell out of the little boys arms. Weight has nothing to do with abuse. A thin woman doing the same thing would have been OK? Ashley, dont be a fucking idiot. |
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Post by myshelly on Feb 10, 2015 17:33:45 GMT
Weight has nothing to do with abuse. A thin woman doing the same thing would have been OK? Ashley, dont be a fucking idiot. Wow, really? Ashley wasn't being rude to you at all. She was making a good point. |
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Post by grinningcat on Feb 10, 2015 17:34:43 GMT
Because she had to be at least 300 lbs and she was squeezing the hell out of the little boys arms. I know of 120# people who are quite strong and could squeeze the hell out of my arms. So still not seeing the heavy comment. I know tiny people who have amazing strength as well. But I'm not seeing the issue with the heavy comment? She was describing the woman. What is wrong in that? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:35:05 GMT
Weight has nothing to do with abuse. A thin woman doing the same thing would have been OK? Ashley, dont be a fucking idiot. Don't be rude about people's weight. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:35:39 GMT
I know of 120# people who are quite strong and could squeeze the hell out of my arms. So still not seeing the heavy comment. I know tiny people who have amazing strength as well. But I'm not seeing the issue with the heavy comment? She was describing the woman. What is wrong in that? Because it's irrelevant to the situation. A person's weight almost always is. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:36:24 GMT
SHE WAS HUGE HE WAS TINY. giving a mental picture.
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Post by jjpswife on Feb 10, 2015 17:37:43 GMT
I would have been scared out of my mind to do what you did but I think I would have done it too and I'm glad you made the call.
I'm with those that are noticing the heavy-set descriptor, though, and wondering why it had to be that way. I'm not trying to gang up on you...it's just disappointing when people do that.
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Post by myshelly on Feb 10, 2015 17:37:47 GMT
Wouldn't any adult be huge in comparison to a 3 yr old though?
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Post by wrongwayfeldman on Feb 10, 2015 17:37:48 GMT
I am glad you called the police. Most people don't. I am also a mandated reporter and I have had to call a couple times myself. I would follow up with a phone call to the doctor's office, explaining to the doctor what you saw, and I would complain to her/him that the staff did NOT do their part to help. I would also likely call CPS to file a complaint against the staff there, since they are mandated reporters and did nothing. It would be one thing if they didn't witness it, but when you called their attention to it and they still did nothing, then they dropped the ball and should be held accountable. We teach our kids to TELL AN ADULT, yet this little boy sat in a room FULL OF ADULTS and no one did a thing to help him except you. So he will learn to keep his mouth shut, and he will continue to be a victim. Again, good for YOU for stepping up!
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Post by naby64 on Feb 10, 2015 17:38:19 GMT
I know of 120# people who are quite strong and could squeeze the hell out of my arms. So still not seeing the heavy comment. I know tiny people who have amazing strength as well. But I'm not seeing the issue with the heavy comment? She was describing the woman. What is wrong in that? I see no need to describe the woman. There was harm being inflicted and action should have been taken. AND it was. AND for that I am glad. Now, would you all have seen it the same if someone posted - a toothless woman, a hairless man, a redneck, ignorant ass...? Still just giving a description. |
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Post by blue tulip on Feb 10, 2015 17:38:50 GMT
she was describing the scene, giving us a thorough picture of what she saw. a description of the woman follows that. of course it doesn't matter that she was fat, it's just a descriptor. really, I don't get all the uproar. do we all have to leave out potentially hurtful traits of the person we're talking about now? if I was telling a friend the same story, the weight would've been included as it helps set the picture of a much larger person abusing a tiny child.
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Post by grinningcat on Feb 10, 2015 17:42:51 GMT
I know tiny people who have amazing strength as well. But I'm not seeing the issue with the heavy comment? She was describing the woman. What is wrong in that? Because it's irrelevant to the situation. A person's weight almost always is. So is every descriptor irrelevant to the situation? If she'd said that a tall woman or a muscular man or a feeble old woman was doing it, that doesn't matter? In many situations, I agree with you, appearance is irrelevant but in this case, I think the appearance of the woman is relevant because it showcases the disparity between the adult and child involved. That said, I do see what you're saying and most of the time I would agree with you. I would expect that in a situation of witnessing an attack that any detail information, such as appearance would be beneficial rather than offensive. |
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Post by grinningcat on Feb 10, 2015 17:45:09 GMT
I know tiny people who have amazing strength as well. But I'm not seeing the issue with the heavy comment? She was describing the woman. What is wrong in that? I see no need to describe the woman. There was harm being inflicted and action should have been taken. AND it was. AND for that I am glad. Now, would you all have seen it the same if someone posted - a toothless woman, a hairless man, a redneck, ignorant ass...? Still just giving a description. Are any of those relevant to describing the attacker? They could be. I would expect that the police would expect a witness to be able to give descriptors. So why is it bad to describe this woman? Because detail doesn't matter on a forum because it's not the police? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:45:19 GMT
Reminds me of the "fat ass" sitting on public cheese. In any event, glad you did something.
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Post by blue tulip on Feb 10, 2015 17:45:40 GMT
Now, would you all have seen it the same if someone posted - a toothless woman, a hairless man, a redneck, ignorant ass...? Still just giving a description.
2 of those things are descriptions- if you're toothless, or hairless, that's a fact. it's a description of you, like it or not. terms like redneck or ignorant asses are subjective and not facts (altho some people would beg to differ ha).
but to use one of your examples, a toothless woman, yes I would probably use it because it is a noticeable trait and it would stick in my brain when I was telling someone about what happened. as in "I'm shopping in the grocery store and suddenly this crazy, toothless woman is screaming at me for buying uncrustables. the whole thing was unreal." would just "crazy" work? yes. but "toothless" gives you a better mental picture of the scene and the incident and how weird it was.
JMO.
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Post by conchita on Feb 10, 2015 17:46:46 GMT
Holy crap.  I'm skipping right over the description of the bully you reported. I can't seem to muster up one care about what she looked like. But I am definitely relieved to hear you took the necessary steps to bring this to the attention of the police. Who probably did want a description of the woman in question. |
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Post by beanbuddymom on Feb 10, 2015 17:47:04 GMT
I am glad you called the police. Most people don't. I am also a mandated reporter and I have had to call a couple times myself. I would follow up with a phone call to the doctor's office, explaining to the doctor what you saw, and I would complain to her/him that the staff did NOT do their part to help. I would also likely call CPS to file a complaint against the staff there, since they are mandated reporters and did nothing. It would be one thing if they didn't witness it, but when you called their attention to it and they still did nothing, then they dropped the ball and should be held accountable. We teach our kids to TELL AN ADULT, yet this little boy sat in a room FULL OF ADULTS and no one did a thing to help him except you. So he will learn to keep his mouth shut, and he will continue to be a victim. Again, good for YOU for stepping up! Absolutely agree. I am pretty disappointed at the reaction you got from the receptionist not wanting to get involved but I am glad you took it upon to do it yourself and that the police did show up. So often people don't want to get involved and as the daughter of a father that devoted his career to social services I thank you for making that call. |
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Post by freebird on Feb 10, 2015 17:50:42 GMT
Sheesh guys, step up off of her. She didn't tell her to get her fat ass off the cheese, she described the woman because she scared her. I'm fat. If I rob a bank, I expect someone to report that I was fat.
I would also love to see me trying to run out of a bank with a huge bag of money, but that's another thread.
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Post by naby64 on Feb 10, 2015 17:51:08 GMT
2 of those things are descriptions- if you're toothless, or hairless, that's a fact. it's a description of you, like it or not. terms like redneck or ignorant asses are subjective and not facts (altho some people would beg to differ ha).
but to use one of your examples, a toothless woman, yes I would probably use it because it is a noticeable trait and it would stick in my brain when I was telling someone about what happened. as in "I'm shopping in the grocery store and suddenly this crazy, toothless woman is screaming at me for buying uncrustables. the whole thing was unreal." would just "crazy" work? yes. but "toothless" gives you a better mental picture of the scene and the incident.
JMO.
Thank you. I just had a good laugh. No, not a snarky laugh, but a thank you for making me laugh. Your aside in the parentheses and your shopping description. I can see that I would describe the woman just that way in relating the shopping incident to DH. |
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I hope the others there would act as witnesses as well if asked to-especially the receptionist. 
