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Post by Tamhugh on Mar 2, 2015 21:37:49 GMT
Do you think Joan got away with it because she was like your crazy grandmother that just said whatever was on her mind and got away with it because of her age? I do think Kathy's brash personality style is very similar, however she's not a fashion expert. Annabella, it wasn't just an age thing with Joan. She was famous for her mean humor even when she was young. I still remember her when she was a frequent guest of Johnny Carson and she was always ripping on how fat Elizabeth Taylor was.
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Post by mallie on Mar 2, 2015 23:15:51 GMT
According to Radar Online, Kelly Osbourne was fired (given an opportunity to resign before she was being fired, to be technical). FWIW:http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/03/kathy-griffin-save-fashion-police-kelly-osbourne-forced-out/
The story says she was unhappy since Joan died. Also, she is being replaced by Khloe Kardashian.
In so far as Joan getting away with it, I think part of it was she was just as hard on herself as she was on anyone else. So she had the armor of she could take it as well as dish it out.
ETA: I also think Joan had a certain wink wink quality to her comments, that made her jokes somehow more palatable to a lot of people. They were mean, but they were also self-consciously and obviously jokes. (Not excusing the meanness, but trying to explain why a lot of people found her funnier than those who have tried to imitate her)
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Mar 2, 2015 23:37:27 GMT
I agree - that was the thing about Joan Rivers - she made fun of herself almost as much as she made fun of anyone else. Her jokes about plastic surgery alone . . . Kathy Griffin tends to be the same way, but like I said - big shoes to fill. I didn't watch the show from the beginning, so I don't know if she had much fashion knowledge when she started out, annabella. I'm guessing she just learned as she went along, but I could be wrong. Interesting that now the buzz is that Kelly was fired. Hmmm. And please tell me you're kidding about Khloe Kardashian!! I don't hate the girl, but I really need their 15 minutes to be up already!
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Post by padresfan619 on Mar 2, 2015 23:39:18 GMT
E! needs to change their initial to K! It is all Kardashians all the time.
I don't think Joan was any authority on fashion, either, she just paved the way on the red carpet by asking "Who are you wearing?"
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Post by mallie on Mar 2, 2015 23:41:18 GMT
I agree - that was the thing about Joan Rivers - she made fun of herself almost as much as she made fun of anyone else. Her jokes about plastic surgery alone . . . Kathy Griffin tends to be the same way, but like I said - big shoes to fill. I didn't watch the show from the beginning, so I don't know if she had much fashion knowledge when she started out, annabella. I'm guessing she just learned as she went along, but I could be wrong. Interesting that now the buzz is that Kelly was fired. Hmmm. And please tell me you're kidding about Khloe Kardashian!! I don't hate the girl, but I really need their 15 minutes to be up already! I have always been perplexed about the allure of the Kardashians. So so over them and their total domination of the E! brand. I can't believe their 15 minutes of fame has been extended over and over. Have to admit that Kris is probably the best marketer in the country -- she turned those no talent women (and the men in their orbit -- always shocked to hear how much Rob K makes for appearances) into multi-millionaires.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 1:06:56 GMT
I should edit my response. I do not like any of the Osbornes. I don't like Ozzy, I really dislike Sharon. Kelly has made a career for herself, but that doesn't mean I have to like her. I don't know anything about her brother. (Is his name Jack?) I never watched the show on TV because I thought they were useless. (They may not like me back and I am ok with that! I am not looking to be friends with any of them. I did watch part of one of a show they had on years ago "The Osbornes?" I didn't get that 30 min of life back and I am still waiting. It will be a long wait.
Osborne and Kardashians are about on par. The less I see of either of them the happier I am.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 1:10:15 GMT
I agree - that was the thing about Joan Rivers - she made fun of herself almost as much as she made fun of anyone else. Her jokes about plastic surgery alone . . . Kathy Griffin tends to be the same way, but like I said - big shoes to fill. I didn't watch the show from the beginning, so I don't know if she had much fashion knowledge when she started out, annabella. I'm guessing she just learned as she went along, but I could be wrong. Interesting that now the buzz is that Kelly was fired. Hmmm. And please tell me you're kidding about Khloe Kardashian!! I don't hate the girl, but I really need their 15 minutes to be up already! I have always been perplexed about the allure of the Kardashians. So so over them and their total domination of the E! brand. I can't believe their 15 minutes of fame has been extended over and over. Have to admit that Kris is probably the best marketer in the country -- she turned those no talent women (and the men in their orbit -- always shocked to hear how much Rob K makes for appearances) into multi-millionaires. The best meme I saw was the family Christmas card a few years ago with Ray J off to the side where it says "I made this family famous with my d!ck". It is true. Where would they be really if Kim hadn't leaked that sex tape to the world? That was probably her mother's idea. The thought of my parents watching me have sex on the internet (while watched by millions of people worldwide)? That's enough to make me want to throw up. It's bad enough knowing that they knew I had sex (hence the creation of my darling son---but for them to see it? Yuck!)
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Post by threegirls on Mar 3, 2015 1:10:55 GMT
Ugh, I won't ever watch it if any of the Kardashians are involved.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 1:15:46 GMT
Ugh, I won't ever watch it if any of the Kardashians are involved. I don't watch anything Kardashian. I get it free of charge on Facebook. Everyone reports on the Kardashians day and night. Why? I am not sure.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 1:23:20 GMT
Do you think Joan got away with it because she was like your crazy grandmother that just said whatever was on her mind and got away with it because of her age? I do think Kathy's brash personality style is very similar, however she's not a fashion expert. Annabella, it wasn't just an age thing with Joan. She was famous for her mean humor even when she was young. I still remember her when she was a frequent guest of Johnny Carson and she was always ripping on how fat Elizabeth Taylor was. I admire Joan for making it as a comedian that was dominated by males. She made awesome strides. To me, mean is mean. I didn't care for her routines and didn't like her comments on Fashion Police. I think she got away with it because she was a pioneer and she did make fun of herself a lot. I will never be a fan of her getting laughs for trashing people. Johnny Carson, an even bigger legend than Joan would have nothing to do with her after she started her own late night show. That lasted 2 seasons (maybe even shorter).
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 3, 2015 1:58:41 GMT
Kathy is JUST as much a fashion expert as G, and Kelly. She's done many red carpets, and fashion weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 2:09:17 GMT
Kathy is JUST as much a fashion expert as G, and Kelly. She's done many red carpets, and fashion weeks. It's hard to believe Kelly is a fashion expert.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Mar 3, 2015 2:46:47 GMT
Replacement rumors for Kelly have been khloe Kardashian and Neene Leakes.
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Post by imkat on Mar 4, 2015 2:27:29 GMT
Pure fluff, but for some reason I enjoy seeing the outfits that celebrities wear on the red carpet. I have been pleasantly surprised by Kathy. I wish George had stayed; the new guy is OK and I guess he is a stylist to the stars as well. Guilliana is OK. I have never thought Kelly added much to the show, but I'm not crazy about having her replaced by Khloe Kardashian. Ugh.
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Post by peasapie on Mar 4, 2015 4:24:08 GMT
Joan got hammered many times for her jokes. But I don't recall her making tearful apologies. I do remember her saying, "It's a joke!" That's what I would have advised Guilianna to say as well.
I've only watched FP once. Mainly it seemed like a vehicle for Joan to tell her jokes and for the others to cover their mouths in mock surprise that Joan would say such a thing. Now that Joan is gone, they probably need to change up that dynamic.
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