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Post by missysauter on Mar 3, 2015 20:07:59 GMT
A little back story - I've had a lot on my plate for a while now. My dad is in very poor health and we live 13 hours away from each other. My parents really don't have any support system where they live. I worry about them constantly. Since mid-January my dad has been in the hospital three times and has lost 25 pounds. He's 6' tall and weighs 138 pounds now. He has COPD, atrial fib, pneumonia and a blood disorder along with a host of other ailments. His lung capacity is down to 20% and his heart is working at about 40%. He is on oxygen all the time. Yesterday he was moved from a larger hospital to a smaller one with a rehab facility to work with him to start building up his strength. He's fallen twice during this last hospitalization.
On Friday DH was in tears from excruciating lower back pain. He has had problems with his back for years now and last year had extensive surgery on his neck. He is having a hard time walking and only finds some relief when he is laying flat on his back. He had an MRI yesterday and we should get the full report tomorrow sometime. DH is a pilot and can't work this way.
I can't leave DH at this point to be with my dad because we have a DS at home who needs help if DH is incapacitated. DH needs my help (whether he likes to admit that or not).
Yesterday I simply could NOT function. I couldn't eat. I slept way more than I should and every time DH laid down to rest his back, I laid down with him. I thought maybe I had caught a bug, but as of today I'm better. Still a bit achy and tired, but nothing like yesterday. My mom thinks that the stress was too much for me and my body decided to shut down to make me rest.
I've always thought I was a very strong person, but if yesterday is any indicator, I'm not sure if that's the case.
So, if you've had an overly stressful period in your life, do you feel it physically? What do you do for yourself to try to make things better? Thanks!
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Post by krc11 on Mar 3, 2015 20:10:46 GMT
Yes, stress can affect you physically. At a minimum, get plenty of rest and healthy meals while you are under going so much stress. If you can get away and relax, do that, but I totally understand if you can't at this time. Be gentle to yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 20:16:43 GMT
I'm sorry for everything you are going through. That's a lot to deal with. '
To answer your question, for me, the answer is a resounding YES.
I once had a boss and we were just oil and water. It was a very unhealthy situation, but I loved the organization I worked for and I thought it would get better. About 18 months after she was hired, I started to have stomach issues. I underwent so many tests over the course of a year - every blood test you could imagine, endoscopy, colonoscopy, etc. - all to no avail. "Nothing" was wrong, but I was so sick. Finally, unrelated to my health issues, I decided I couldn't work with her any longer and found a new job. I gave my notice. The very next day, my stomach issues started to subside and by the time my two weeks were up and I left the job, I had no more stomach problems and they have never recurred. Basically, I was so miserably mentally, my body was turning on itself. Mind you, I'd had pain every day for over a year up until that point. It was a big wake up call for me.
As far as what do I do to make it better? I manage my stress better. Sometimes, there are situations that I have no control of but are still very stressful (like what you are going through). I make sure I talk through things with people I love and trust, to get things off my chest. I ask for help if i need it. I take extra good physical care of myself - being sure to get extra exercise and sleep even though it is tempting to skip those things because there's "not time." I find time - even just a little bit - to do something just for me. If they are situations I can control, I take action to change the situation so it will be less stressful - whether that means delegating, saying no, changing plans, or something else.
Looking back on my prior employment situation, there are a lot of things I could have done differently that would have better controlled my stress and probably helped my physical symptoms. I unfortunately thought it was better to just say/do nothing to change what was going on, keep on keeping on, and hope for the best. It was a terrible strategy for a number of reasons.
If we ignore ourselves and our own emotional and physical needs, our bodies will eventually demand our attention and usually not in pleasant ways.
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Post by annabella on Mar 3, 2015 20:19:06 GMT
Yes it does for me and acupuncture has helped. Sorry you're going through so much.
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Post by polz on Mar 3, 2015 20:20:02 GMT
Yes it does. Last year was a very stressful time and our family spent 2 months in court. I stress ate myself into the fattest I've ever been in my life. I am the strong one. My family were relying on me for support. It was a horrible time. This year is better. I'm running away my frustrations this year. It's good for me.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 3, 2015 20:20:34 GMT
Yes, sometimes my body (my back) will tell me I'm going through stress before I even realize.
I'm sorry you are going through so much.
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Post by missysauter on Mar 3, 2015 20:24:20 GMT
Yes it does for me and acupuncture has helped. Sorry you're going through so much. Annabella, can you tell me more about acupuncture? How would I go about finding someone reputable? I don't think I've ever wrapped my head around getting relief from needles. lol
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Post by bianca42 on Mar 3, 2015 20:24:38 GMT
My jaw gets tense when I'm stressed. About 3 years ago, DH moved 2 hours away for a new job and I stayed with our two boys until the house sold. It was a full 6 months of living apart during the week and keeping the house show-ready all the time with 2 young boys. Then there were issues with closing on the old house and on the new house. I was a wreck and got to the point where I couldn't chew, my jaw hurt so bad. I ended up at the chiropractor once we were settled and then I finally could eat again. (Amazingly, I also gained weight. LOL)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 20:24:37 GMT
When you said your DH had that kind of back pain I immediately thought of my next door neighbour. His back pain turned out to be lymphoma. He went for physio several times and that didn't make it better. He got blood work done and surprise.... if your DH just has a "bad back" from sitting in a plane too long then he can deal with that. Acupuncture or massage therapy and physio and other forms of therapy might help him. I am sorry about your dad. I am truly sorry. My next door neighbour's wife is in the hospital with pneumonia from COPD (she never smoked a day in her life) but she has it and I don't think she is going to come home. She is elderly and she has had a wonderful, exciting, well-read, enough to write a book about life, but i suspect the end is near for her too All I can do is pray for your family. I hope your dad improves. I really do. I hope DH's back gets better as well. He might just need to rest it. I don't know. Take good care. xoxox ETA you need to be very gentle with yourself. If you have a jacuzzi tub, sit in it and read with soft music playing. If you exercise, try to do it as much as you can. Within reason. Deep breathe. Be gentler with yourself. There is only one you. You have Nick and you have DH (Kate is a school, right?) If you go to church talk to your pastor and see what he/she says. They can be very empathetic. They can give you scriptures to read that may be supportive. (If you are Jewish talk to your rabbi etc.) If the laundry doesn't get done, buy more underwear. I have had to do that before. I was in university at the time, but I was busy and didn't feel like doing laundry so I just bought more underwear. Easy peasy. Same goes for Nick and DH. Costco sells it cheaply, too. If you work you may need to take a leave of absence. I don't know if you can do that in the US or not. Here you can to take care of an ailing relative. That might be public servant rather than private. I don't know for sure either way. Do the bath thing as many times a day as you need to. Water isn't that expensive and it does calm you down. If you are religious pray. If your are spiritual I would get a book like a chicken soup book or something like that. It's fluff and happy.
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Post by scrappintoee on Mar 3, 2015 20:26:09 GMT
Oh yes!!! especially in my shoulders & neck!!! I'm sorry you're going through so much!!! I don't think I could handle all of that at the same time!! ((( hugs )))
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Post by missysauter on Mar 3, 2015 20:26:48 GMT
When you said your DH had that kind of back pain I immediately thought of my next door neighbour. His back pain turned out to be lymphoma. He went for physio several times and that didn't make it better. He got blood work done and surprise.... if your DH just has a "bad back" from sitting in a plane too long then he can deal with that. Acupuncture or massage therapy and physio and other forms of therapy might help him. I am sorry about your dad. I am truly sorry. My next door neighbour's wife is in the hospital with pneumonia from COPD (she never smoked a day in her life) but she has it and I don't think she is going to come home. She is elderly and she has had a wonderful, exciting, well-read, enough to write a book about life, but i suspect the end is near for her too All I can do is pray for your family. I hope your dad improves. I really do. I hope DH's back gets better as well. He might just need to rest it. I don't know. Take good care. xoxox DH has disc degeneration and bulging discs. We know for sure that none of the discs have ruptured, but that's all they told him from his MRI so far. Thank you for the prayers. I truly appreciate it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 20:32:46 GMT
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Post by scrappintoee on Mar 3, 2015 20:37:11 GMT
i just saw your question about accupuncture, so I'll tell u how great my experience was! Mine was from an excellent chiropractor ....I had severe back pain where I could barely walk or sit ....after adjustments, they placed muscle stim. Pads and heat on my back for 15 minutes or so (which was wonderful!), then the doc placed the accu. needles in various areas....it doesn't hurt---I promise! it really helped me, and I was surprised (and THRILLED!) that our insurance covered all of it., including my own elec. stim machine for home use! They also told me my insurance would cover one deep tissue massage per week----I hope your DH gets some relief!!!!
and again, sorry for all you're dealing with!!! I know it'd be so hard not to be able to see my Dad, too!!! ((( hugs ))))
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 20:37:34 GMT
Yes it does. At the moment I'm exhausted with everything that's going on but I can't sleep properly, then I can't wake up in the mornings (does that make any sense?) I'm clenching my jaw so hard when I do sleep that my face hurts almost constantly. I have a sore throat that won't go away and keep losing my voice. I find that walking helps me, being out in the fresh air clears my mind for a while.
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Post by scrappintoee on Mar 3, 2015 20:40:19 GMT
Oops...sorry, I didn't see your DH's diagnoses before i posted about my accupuncture, etc... since my problems were due to an acute muscle issue & arthritis, everyyhing I mentioned they did for me may not apply to him...
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Post by jmurray on Mar 3, 2015 20:40:27 GMT
I'm sorry about your dad and DH. In regards to the question about stress, yes it's been proven many times it can have a direct bearing on physiological health. I tend to stress more over work related issues. Depending on how long the stress lasts it can be as simple as disrupted sleep all the way through to rashes, elevated blood pressure and other issues. I have struggled with managing this for years and have had mixed results.
The need to sleep is a key indicator of stress (and sometimes depression) and shouldn't be ignored. What works best for me is to carve out a small block of the day or evening where I am on my own and just being peaceful - no interruptions. I need that "me time" to work on putting things back into perspective and focus on positives. Often it's just a case of making my head (logic) talk my heart (emotion and worries) down off the cliff. It doesn't help that I'm a born worrier as well, so I can stress over things that haven't even happened. Just the thought that they MIGHT can send my brain into overdrive. It's a horrible pattern and really difficult to break but I take it one day at a time and try to just deal with the "here and now".
Just remember that if you don't take care of yourself you won't be able to help others - so please don't dismiss your own need to replenish your strength, however it works best for you.
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Post by calgal08 on Mar 3, 2015 20:49:22 GMT
Absolutely, yes. I drop weight like crazy (which isn't good, I'm not big to start with), exhausted all the time, hair loss
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Post by likescarrots on Mar 3, 2015 20:54:05 GMT
It does for me, and exercising has helped greatly.
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Post by scrappintoee on Mar 3, 2015 20:55:39 GMT
I just thought of something...you say your parents don't have any support where they live...Does your Mom drive herself to visit him, is it a long drive for her, or does she stay with him in the facilities? I wonder if there's any chance they could transfer your Dad to a place near you, then your Mom would also have a place to stay/ get emotional support, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 20:59:37 GMT
Absolutely. That is A LOT on your plate. I hope everything eases soon for you and your family.
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Post by missysauter on Mar 3, 2015 21:00:38 GMT
I just thought of something...you say your parents don't have any support where they live...Does your Mom drive herself to visit him, is it a long drive for her, or does she stay with him in the facilities? I wonder if there's any chance they could transfer your Dad to a place near you, then your Mom would also have a place to stay/ get emotional support, etc. My mom is staying with my dad at the hospital. Of course, the hospital is no place to be if you're trying to get well or get rested. In all honesty, I don't think my dad could make the 13 hour drive it would take to get them to our house. They've lived with us twice in the past during health issues for my dad. He's just so weak now that I don't think he could do it.
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Mar 3, 2015 21:10:40 GMT
Yes - 100%. And when my stress is higher my pain feels worse. Of course maybe too when my pain is bad, I feel more stressed out.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 3, 2015 21:12:08 GMT
A little back story - I've had a lot on my plate for a while now. My dad is in very poor health and we live 13 hours away from each other. My parents really don't have any support system where they live. I worry about them constantly. Since mid-January my dad has been in the hospital three times and has lost 25 pounds. He's 6' tall and weighs 138 pounds now. He has COPD, atrial fib, pneumonia and a blood disorder along with a host of other ailments. His lung capacity is down to 20% and his heart is working at about 40%. He is on oxygen all the time. Yesterday he was moved from a larger hospital to a smaller one with a rehab facility to work with him to start building up his strength. He's fallen twice during this last hospitalization. On Friday DH was in tears from excruciating lower back pain. He has had problems with his back for years now and last year had extensive surgery on his neck. He is having a hard time walking and only finds some relief when he is laying flat on his back. He had an MRI yesterday and we should get the full report tomorrow sometime. DH is a pilot and can't work this way. I can't leave DH at this point to be with my dad because we have a DS at home who needs help if DH is incapacitated. DH needs my help (whether he likes to admit that or not). Yesterday I simply could NOT function. I couldn't eat. I slept way more than I should and every time DH laid down to rest his back, I laid down with him. I thought maybe I had caught a bug, but as of today I'm better. Still a bit achy and tired, but nothing like yesterday. My mom thinks that the stress was too much for me and my body decided to shut down to make me rest. I've always thought I was a very strong person, but if yesterday is any indicator, I'm not sure if that's the case. So, if you've had an overly stressful period in your life, do you feel it physically? What do you do for yourself to try to make things better? Thanks! ABSOLUTELY! 1) I let smaller priorities ride. 2) I realize that the human body is not made to handle so much stress without showing the effect, and therefore, it's to be expected that my body is reacting. 3) I need a lot more quiet solitude than when times are less stressful. 4) I eat foods and supplements that I know help balance my mood. 5) I do not deny myself foods that comfort me. Moderation in quantity and an attempt to balance those foods with more steamed vegetables is completely understandable and acceptable. This is not the time to be on a deprivation-type diet. 6) Videos on Netflix & Amazon are fantastic distractions that give me a rest from terribly anxious thoughts. I have recently found several ridiculously long scrapbooking process videos that have bored me to sleep night after night! I now have them on a private playlist marked Sleep. 7) I keep my freezer stocked with healthy but fast frozen dinners and try to keep plenty of healthier snacks on hand without any guilt whatsoever. 8) If I know someone is not a good listener to me, I do not attempt to talk to them about my problems. It only makes me frustrated and I don't have the energy for that when I'm overstressed. 9) I react to the weather and to allergens in the air. A gloomy day makes everything worse. I need more rest and to be much quieter on these days. 10) Try to remember to breathe deeply. Under a lot of anxiety, it's natural to tend to hold your breath and to breathe shallowly which in turn makes you more anxious. Exercise can help force you to breathe better, or if you play a musical instrument that you blow into, this too can help you breathe more deeply. 11) A walk outside can be great medicine. 12) A backrub or massage may be essential to relax the tension when it becomes physically painful. 13) I remind myself that life goes in cycles and that this cycle CAN NOT LAST. As much as I hate this saying, "This too shall pass," it is nonetheless true.
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Post by maryland on Mar 3, 2015 21:15:01 GMT
Yes! My husband gets a lot of stress at work (sometimes I think he has a glass half empty attitude, but I guess we all do with certain things). He gets very moody, because he can't sleep. Then he doesn't work out and it all takes a toll. Sometimes he goes a year without getting a cold, but the past month he has had two bad colds where he missed several days of work.
It seems like you have so much going on. I understand about how your husband's back problems are hard. My husband had 2 back surgeries 24 hrs. apart a few years ago and he was screaming in pain. It really scared me and I don't lift anything anymore because I am so scared of hurting my back. I hope he is able to get help for his pain.
So sorry about your dad. He has really gone through a lot. Do you have friends/neighbors that could help out if you go to visit your father? Could inlaws come out to help with your husband and son? It must be so hard having health issues with your parents and husband.
I hope things start to go better for your family. Thinking of you!
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 3, 2015 21:16:06 GMT
I'm sorry for everything you are going through. That's a lot to deal with. ' To answer your question, for me, the answer is a resounding YES. I once had a boss and we were just oil and water. It was a very unhealthy situation, but I loved the organization I worked for and I thought it would get better. About 18 months after she was hired, I started to have stomach issues. I underwent so many tests over the course of a year - every blood test you could imagine, endoscopy, colonoscopy, etc. - all to no avail. "Nothing" was wrong, but I was so sick. Finally, unrelated to my health issues, I decided I couldn't work with her any longer and found a new job. I gave my notice. The very next day, my stomach issues started to subside and by the time my two weeks were up and I left the job, I had no more stomach problems and they have never recurred. Basically, I was so miserably mentally, my body was turning on itself. Mind you, I'd had pain every day for over a year up until that point. It was a big wake up call for me. As far as what do I do to make it better? I manage my stress better. Sometimes, there are situations that I have no control of but are still very stressful (like what you are going through). I make sure I talk through things with people I love and trust, to get things off my chest. I ask for help if i need it. I take extra good physical care of myself - being sure to get extra exercise and sleep even though it is tempting to skip those things because there's "not time." I find time - even just a little bit - to do something just for me. If they are situations I can control, I take action to change the situation so it will be less stressful - whether that means delegating, saying no, changing plans, or something else. Looking back on my prior employment situation, there are a lot of things I could have done differently that would have better controlled my stress and probably helped my physical symptoms. I unfortunately thought it was better to just say/do nothing to change what was going on, keep on keeping on, and hope for the best. It was a terrible strategy for a number of reasons. If we ignore ourselves and our own emotional and physical needs, our bodies will eventually demand our attention and usually not in pleasant ways. Yep. What she said.
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Post by missysauter on Mar 3, 2015 21:19:07 GMT
Yes! My husband gets a lot of stress at work (sometimes I think he has a glass half empty attitude, but I guess we all do with certain things). He gets very moody, because he can't sleep. Then he doesn't work out and it all takes a toll. Sometimes he goes a year without getting a cold, but the past month he has had two bad colds where he missed several days of work. It seems like you have so much going on. I understand about how your husband's back problems are hard. My husband had 2 back surgeries 24 hrs. apart a few years ago and he was screaming in pain. It really scared me and I don't lift anything anymore because I am so scared of hurting my back. I hope he is able to get help for his pain. So sorry about your dad. He has really gone through a lot. Do you have friends/neighbors that could help out if you go to visit your father? Could inlaws come out to help with your husband and son? It must be so hard having health issues with your parents and husband. I hope things start to go better for your family. Thinking of you! We've asked my in-laws to be in "stand-by" mode just in case I need to get to my parents. My in-laws live about 4 hours away. We're waiting to see what the results of DH's MRI and what his doctor's game plan is going to be.
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Post by annabella on Mar 3, 2015 21:22:12 GMT
Yes it does for me and acupuncture has helped. Sorry you're going through so much. Annabella, can you tell me more about acupuncture? How would I go about finding someone reputable? I don't think I've ever wrapped my head around getting relief from needles. lol I went to yelp to find the ones with the best reviews. First I went to a community acupuncture place, my city has a few of them, turns out everyone gets treated together in the same room and you pay what you can. Then I found out my insurance covers it so I now have one on one sessions with a woman who I just pay my medical co-pay to. I filled out a long intake form and when I see her I tell her what's going on with me that week and she treats the pressure points for that issue. I hate needles too but it's not bad. Acupuncture is traditional Chinese medicine that goes back thousands of years. My practitioner also prescribes Chinese herbs. I googled the one she gave me and it was listed as the most common drug used in Japan and approved by their govt. Anyway she checks my pulse each visit to see which points on my body need unblocking. Acupuncture can treat a variety of issues: back pain, TMJ, stress, insomnia and that's just what I have. But I've heard people have had success with infertility as well with it. To practice as an acupuncturist they have to have a masters degree and be licensed in your state. Acupuncture is a process, so it might take a few visits to feel a difference. I find my sessions very relaxing and often fall asleep.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 3, 2015 21:38:19 GMT
{{{hugs}}} to you - it is really hard not to let stress take over and it definitely shows up physically. Eating right, exercise (even a 15 minute walk in fresh air makes a massive difference) and meditating are what help me the most.
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Post by Sam on Mar 3, 2015 21:59:39 GMT
I've always thought I was a very strong person, but if yesterday is any indicator, I'm not sure if that's the case. Well, you see, you are a strong person and probably seen as such by the other members of your family which is why you place such importance on that aspect of your personality. What you need to remember is that being 'strong' can sometimes be at your own detriment. The more you provide for your family in terms of emotional and physical support, the more you need to remember how important it is to take care of yourself as well - after all, if you aren't well, how can you be there for everyone else? There is NOTHING to say that having to take a break makes you any less than you are. It's just a reminder to you to take care of yourself as well as others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 22:02:57 GMT
I like the listening to soft music idea, too. I am not saying it's good music or anything but let's say Kenny G. or something peaceful like that. It's only a suggestion. Maybe someone can suggest something else more uptodate and or better. Have that playing softly. You could also do a couple of yoga poses. Downward facing dog is good for stretching (you probably already know that) and child's pose. You may do yoga already. I don't find it relaxing until I am done. Then I am in heaven. It truly puts me in a state of peacefulness when I am done. If you feel like doing a whole class have at it! If you only want to do a couple of poses to start with then do that. It is all beneficial
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