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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 20:18:44 GMT
Hi I decided to start my own thread because I wanted input. I saw my GP and I discussed what she is doing for her son. She said the series is NOT covered by our healthcare and it would cost >$350 for the 3 shots plus the office visit which is $10 a time. She has not done it for her son who is my son's age. She said her son is a young 18 year old. My DS is an old 19 year old. She is on the fence and thanked me for bringing it up with her because she wants to think about it for her son some more. She said she will discuss it with DS the next time she sees him.
I asked her would HepA be better than this? She said if he plans to travel then HepA is a good idea but the generation he belongs to today has many more partners than ours did and she said it is just the way things are.
So my question is would you pay $350 to get your son vaccinated? They aren't having good success vaccinating girls here she said. They aren't even pursing boys.
Interesting.
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Post by ExpatBackHome on Mar 3, 2015 20:43:48 GMT
Yes, I would pay $350 for the vaccination. My oldest is 10 years old and I plan to have him get the vaccine when it's time.
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Post by calgal08 on Mar 3, 2015 20:46:18 GMT
What are the pros and cons for the vaccine?
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Post by dancingqueen on Mar 3, 2015 21:17:05 GMT
Hi I decided to start my own thread because I wanted input. I saw my GP and I discussed what she is doing for her son. She said the series is NOT covered by our healthcare and it would cost >$350 for the 3 shots plus the office visit which is $10 a time. She has not done it for her son who is my son's age. She said her son is a young 18 year old. My DS is an old 19 year old. She is on the fence and thanked me for bringing it up with her because she wants to think about it for her son some more. She said she will discuss it with DS the next time she sees him. I asked her would HepA be better than this? She said if he plans to travel then HepA is a good idea but the generation he belongs to today has many more partners than ours did and she said it is just the way things are. So my question is would you pay $350 to get your son vaccinated? They aren't having good success vaccinating girls here she said. They aren't even pursing boys. Interesting. My son is ten years younger than yours, but we will pay when the time comes. We're also in Canada, so I imagine the cost will be similar. They are not pursuing the vaccination of boys here, either, although I really wish they would. How could we not, when this is a way that he could protect the woman (women? eek!!) in his future. I was a really good girl, I've only been with my dh. He has had other partners before me, one was on the wild side. He is actually nervous every time I get a physical, because he KNOWS that if I ever got cervical cancer it would almost certainly be from him. His best friend's mom died of cervical cancer when they were in their teens, it was tragic. If he could go back in time, he'd get vaccinated. So would I. |
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 3, 2015 21:23:43 GMT
So my question is would you pay $350 to get your son vaccinated? They aren't having good success vaccinating girls here she said. They aren't even pursing boys. Interesting. Yes, I would pay. I have no idea where your doctor is getting her information, but according to this 2012 CMAJ article Provinces Weighing HPV Vaccination of Boys: Naus notes that the vaccination rate among eligible girls in BC is now 70% and climbing annually at a rate of 5%. But Brown notes the rate is only 55% in Ontario.
Children in BC don't go to a GP or Pediatrician for immunizations, they go to a Public Health Nurse/Clinic or receive them in school once they are school age. I'd also be concerned that your GP didn't provide you the information from Immunize BC which clearly recommends the HPV vaccine for males 9-26 years old and answers the "why do it?" |
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Post by gar on Mar 3, 2015 21:24:45 GMT
What are the pros and cons for the vaccine? The pros are protection from cancers, the cons are......errrrm....... here's the other thread with Doc Melissa's opinions HPV |
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Post by dancingqueen on Mar 3, 2015 21:26:50 GMT
What are the pros and cons for the vaccine? I'm not in a medical field, this is only what I've read. -Pros - It can help prevent cervical cancer for women, as well as other kinds of cancers for both genders (penile, throat, etc). I think it is also effective at preventing warts. -Cons - I think they're your typical vaccination woes - there can be a painful injection site, headache. There are possible allergic reactions. -Cons - It can be expensive, although I'm not sure if it is covered by medical insurance, etc. In Canada, it is free for girls but there is a fee for boys. -Cons - It is a series of vaccinations, so you would have to go to the doctor/health clinic multiple times. Honestly, the one Pro (in my opinion, of course) quite heavily outweighs the cons... But then, I find that true of vaccinations period. |
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Post by tracyarts on Mar 3, 2015 21:28:30 GMT
Something to keep in mind. There currently is no way to screen for HPV in men. Unless they develop genital/anal warts, they can carry the virus for years, possibly many years without ever knowing they have it. The HPV strains that cause cancer don't cause warts. And men don't have the equivalent of a pap smear to catch early cellular changes that could lead to cancer. So that means that they would be putting their partners at risk, and being at risk themselves.
IMO, it's probably more important to vaccinate boys because they can catch and carry cancer causing strains of HPV for a long time and never know it.
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Post by dancingqueen on Mar 3, 2015 21:30:55 GMT
What are the pros and cons for the vaccine? I'm not in a medical field, this is only what I've read. -Pros - It can help prevent cervical cancer for women, as well as other kinds of cancers for both genders (penile, throat, etc). I think it is also effective at preventing warts. -Cons - I think they're your typical vaccination woes - there can be a painful injection site, headache. There are possible allergic reactions. -Cons - It can be expensive, although I'm not sure if it is covered by medical insurance, etc. In Canada, it is free for girls but there is a fee for boys. -Cons - It is a series of vaccinations, so you would have to go to the doctor/health clinic multiple times. Honestly, the one Pro (in my opinion, of course) quite heavily outweighs the cons... But then, I find that true of vaccinations period. And with my 69th post, I am a throbbing member. Timely. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 21:52:55 GMT
I will ask my son tonight when I talk to him what he thinks. He is an adult now (in the province) and I can't control what he does or thinks or says etc. I will ask him what he plans to do. I have to word it so that he thinks it's a good idea...
My GP thought he may have coverage through the place he is studying. (It's a technical institute like MIT but not as good or famous).
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Post by scrappinmama on Mar 3, 2015 21:52:56 GMT
Hi I decided to start my own thread because I wanted input. I saw my GP and I discussed what she is doing for her son. She said the series is NOT covered by our healthcare and it would cost >$350 for the 3 shots plus the office visit which is $10 a time. She has not done it for her son who is my son's age. She said her son is a young 18 year old. My DS is an old 19 year old. She is on the fence and thanked me for bringing it up with her because she wants to think about it for her son some more. She said she will discuss it with DS the next time she sees him. I asked her would HepA be better than this? She said if he plans to travel then HepA is a good idea but the generation he belongs to today has many more partners than ours did and she said it is just the way things are. So my question is would you pay $350 to get your son vaccinated? They aren't having good success vaccinating girls here she said. They aren't even pursing boys. Interesting. My son is ten years younger than yours, but we will pay when the time comes. We're also in Canada, so I imagine the cost will be similar. They are not pursuing the vaccination of boys here, either, although I really wish they would. How could we not, when this is a way that he could protect the woman (women? eek!!) in his future. I was a really good girl, I've only been with my dh. He has had other partners before me, one was on the wild side. He is actually nervous every time I get a physical, because he KNOWS that if I ever got cervical cancer it would almost certainly be from him. His best friend's mom died of cervical cancer when they were in their teens, it was tragic. If he could go back in time, he'd get vaccinated. So would I. Have you ever considered being screened for HPV? This might alleviate some of your dh's fears. It's a very simple test, and if both the HPV test and pap smear are negative, then the chance of getting cervical cancer is very low for the next five years. |
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Post by dancingqueen on Mar 3, 2015 21:57:38 GMT
My son is ten years younger than yours, but we will pay when the time comes. We're also in Canada, so I imagine the cost will be similar. They are not pursuing the vaccination of boys here, either, although I really wish they would. How could we not, when this is a way that he could protect the woman (women? eek!!) in his future. I was a really good girl, I've only been with my dh. He has had other partners before me, one was on the wild side. He is actually nervous every time I get a physical, because he KNOWS that if I ever got cervical cancer it would almost certainly be from him. His best friend's mom died of cervical cancer when they were in their teens, it was tragic. If he could go back in time, he'd get vaccinated. So would I. Have you ever considered being screened for HPV? This might alleviate some of your dh's fears. It's a very simple test, and if both the HPV test and pap smear are negative, then the chance of getting cervical cancer is very low for the next five years. I *think* I have been screened. I've never had anything show up on my paps (sorry tmi), and I think they screen for that? We've been together for 20 years, so I think I'm pretty safe. It takes away from the point I was making, but dh is an anxious individual lol. |
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Post by dancingqueen on Mar 3, 2015 21:59:02 GMT
I will ask my son tonight when I talk to him what he thinks. He is an adult now (in the province) and I can't control what he does or thinks or says etc. I will ask him what he plans to do. I have to word it so that he thinks it's a good idea... My GP thought he may have coverage through the place he is studying. (It's a technical institute like MIT but not as good or famous). I like that you can talk to your son openly about this stuff. I hope I have this relationship with my kids. |
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Post by teddyw on Mar 3, 2015 22:06:07 GMT
Supposedly this is how Michael Douglas got throat cancer. Also Jaime Dimon the CEO of Chase Bank has throat cancer from this.
I only have girls but my friends with boys are mixed some have, some haven't. My BFF who lets her boys have their girl friends over with no supervision- "because their parents should be checking with us" (Yes I am rolling my eyes)didn't get it for her boys.
All 3 of my dds had it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 22:08:59 GMT
There are no secrets with my son. I don't tell him some stuff but when it comes to sex and that kind of thing, I want him to feel like he can come to me. If he can't come to me he should go to our doctor, my dad or someone he can trust for good advice. I am trying unsuccessfully to help him deal with anxiety. He has had a couple of exams and tests this term so far. He has an A average (he is way smarter than I ever was...Japanese DNA in action). He can't deal with the anxiety before the exam. I want him to just breathe through it and go in knowing he knows the stuff. He is studying what he was meant to study his entire life. This is not a stretch for him even though it is hard. He calls me in an angry panic telling me THIS or THAT. But he is mad. I just speak slowly and softly to him. When he was little this is the child I use to wake up in the morning whispering in his ear to wake up slowly so that he isn't jerked awake. I wanted him to start each day on the right foot. He is a darling of a young man now. (Every mother says that about their child). He really is, though. He is everything I couldn't be. He is pretty great  |
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Post by baslp on Mar 4, 2015 2:46:42 GMT
I vaccinated my son at 13 or 14. Medical professionals are seeing more oral cancers due to the virus. The new one that just came out protects against 9 strains of the virus.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Mar 4, 2015 3:22:36 GMT
My 13yo twin boys are 2/3 of the way through the series. They get the last one in June. They haven't had any problems with soreness or redness or anything.
We talked about why they're getting the series of shots and they said it sounds like a good idea. I'm sure my pro-stance on the issue influenced their opinions, and I have no problem with that.
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Post by Really Red on Mar 4, 2015 14:44:51 GMT
Yes I would. I gave my 14yo the vaccine, but we didn't pay one cent for it. I would double-check with your healthcare. That is certainly surprising. FWIW, I have CIGNA and I know Anthem covered it as well. I know not all healthcares are the same for everyone, but it is still surprising.
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Post by utmr on Mar 4, 2015 15:52:24 GMT
Son, the bad news is that you (or your wife) are going to die from cancer. But the good news is I saved $350!
Get the immunization. Argue about it with the insurance company later if you need to.
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Post by maryland on Mar 4, 2015 18:48:03 GMT
My friend with sons got it for her sons. She didn't get it to protect their partners but to protect them, as she was told it protects boys as well.
If I had sons, I would get it for them for the same reason I will get it for my daughters - to protect their own health. And it's an added bonus that it will also protect their future partners! I am pro-vaccine, so my kids have gotten all vaccines recommended.
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Post by conchita on Mar 6, 2015 20:11:43 GMT
I just found out yesterday that an old high school friend passed away a couple of weeks ago from testicular cancer that he had been fighting the past four years. It invaded his abdomen, spine and brain. He was very promiscuous in his youth and there was no HPV vaccine in our days. It could have saved his life. He was only 40 years old.
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Post by Jili on Mar 6, 2015 21:36:39 GMT
I just found out yesterday that an old high school friend passed away a couple of weeks ago from testicular cancer that he had been fighting the past four years. It invaded his abdomen, spine and brain. He was very promiscuous in his youth and there was no HPV vaccine in our days. It could have saved his life. He was only 40 years old. Actually, I don't believe that testicular cancer is associated with HPV-- but penile and rectal cancers are. I know a little bit about this because a friend's son, who is 15, is going through treatment for testicular cancer--before he's had any opportunity to be sexually active.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 21:42:35 GMT
Sorry for the loss of your friend conchita. I've never heard that being promiscuous causes testicular cancer. |
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Post by conchita on Mar 6, 2015 22:04:40 GMT
I just found out yesterday that an old high school friend passed away a couple of weeks ago from testicular cancer that he had been fighting the past four years. It invaded his abdomen, spine and brain. He was very promiscuous in his youth and there was no HPV vaccine in our days. It could have saved his life. He was only 40 years old. Actually, I don't believe that testicular cancer is associated with HPV-- but penile and rectal cancers are. I know a little bit about this because a friend's son, who is 15, is going through treatment for testicular cancer--before he's had any opportunity to be sexually active. I very well could have the type of cancer incorrect. I know only minor details. It had been over a decade since I had heard from him. He had recently remarried and they had a go fundme account to help with his care. |
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Post by Jili on Mar 6, 2015 22:45:58 GMT
Actually, I don't believe that testicular cancer is associated with HPV-- but penile and rectal cancers are. I know a little bit about this because a friend's son, who is 15, is going through treatment for testicular cancer--before he's had any opportunity to be sexually active. I very well could have the type of cancer incorrect. I know only minor details. It had been over a decade since I had heard from him. He had recently remarried and they had a go fundme account to help with his care. I'm sorry about your friend, conchita.  Cancer just sucks. I have a couple of friends whose children are in the midst of cancer treatment, and it is just so horrible and unfair (at any age). |
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Cancer just sucks. I have a couple of friends whose children are in the midst of cancer treatment, and it is just so horrible and unfair (at any age).