Country Ham
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Post by Country Ham on Mar 6, 2015 13:44:18 GMT
Kid dressed like 50 shades characterOK so a 50 shades post finally crossed my news feed today. At first I giggled I admitted. The mother is upset, I kind of agree with the school. I thought you guys might find it interesting or have thoughts.
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Mar 6, 2015 13:50:37 GMT
People tend to be more accepting of violence than of sex. That's why the bloody, gruesome characters were okay but not the 50 Shades guy. Not that I agree with a parent letting a tween dress as that character though, I would assume that book is far too mature for a tween.
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Post by gar on Mar 6, 2015 13:52:58 GMT
Weird. Kids normally want to be characters they know/love so its odd that he agreed to go as a character that hopefully he didn't know well!!! How would he explain it to his friends?
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Post by hop2 on Mar 6, 2015 13:53:26 GMT
Ok interesting. I see both sides of that issue. I wouldn't let my kids dress as that character, I would have let him dress as James bind though ( which as the mother points out is probably equally inappropriate ) but I was reading Ian Flemings books in 6th grade and got in 'trouble' for trying to do a book report on one. Lol.
Looking at the picture I find little wrong with the actual costume, I guess where he could get into trouble is in his explainations of who the character is. See when my kidsfir eased up as book characters they were required to have read the book. So that eliminated quite a few things.
My panties are not in a bunch over this kid ir the school's reaction. I think it's a big 'whatever' and can't beleive its 'news'
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Post by Country Ham on Mar 6, 2015 14:29:16 GMT
My panties are not in a bunch over this kid ir the school's reaction. I think it's a big 'whatever' and can't beleive its 'news' I think the mother wanted it to be news from the moment she let her child go to the event with bondage ties and whatever that black thing was in his hand. She then took it to the media. I feel for the kid. What also struck me about the article is the misleading title. It says the boy was banned from the event but the last paragraph states that he participated in everything after he changed his costume. “The student was not excluded from taking part in any of the activities as has been wrongly reported,” she said. The author obviously knew the truth.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Mar 6, 2015 14:36:48 GMT
Sometimes parents make me wonder. In what universe did the mother think this was a good idea? It seems like so many are lacking common sense.
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Post by peano on Mar 6, 2015 14:37:58 GMT
So if he'd originally gone as James Bond holding a martini glass and a gun that would have been more acceptable? I mean, I long for the innocent days of yore when he'd have gone as Tom Sawyer, but to draw some distinction between Christian Grey and James Bond is ridiculous.
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Post by teddyw on Mar 6, 2015 14:48:08 GMT
How does an 11 yo know what bondage ties are?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 14:51:03 GMT
My panties are not in a bunch over this kid ir the school's reaction. I think it's a big 'whatever' and can't beleive its 'news' I think the mother wanted it to be news from the moment she let her child go to the event with bondage ties and whatever that black thing was in his hand. She then took it to the media. I feel for the kid. Exactly this ^^^^ I can't quite get my head around any mother sending her 11 year old boy to school portraying a character from that particular book. Heck I've got an 11 year old nephew and he would have no idea what so ever what BDSM meant let alone have any knowledge of the character this boy was dressed as. Can just hear my nephew and his friends saying " who the heck are you"? !!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 14:57:03 GMT
So if he'd originally gone as James Bond holding a martini glass and a gun that would have been more acceptable? I think that the main difference is that the character of James Bond is totally fictional or at least some of his actions are. Wearing a tux would be enough for anyone to recognise Bond,he wouldn't have needed to have props.There are sadly real life characters that are Christian Grey's! It's the difference between " fiction" and reality IMO.
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Post by anxiousmom on Mar 6, 2015 15:03:00 GMT
How does an 11 yo know what bondage ties are? That would be my question, along with knowing that they are appropriate for the character. I haven't read the books/seen the movie, and I know there is a ton of information out there about the book/movie, but even with that-an 11 year old could not put that costume together without the help of an adult. Nor could I see the average 11 year old *wanting* to put that costume together without the encouragement of an adult. I am voting for mom steering this particular bus.
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Post by peano on Mar 6, 2015 15:05:11 GMT
So if he'd originally gone as James Bond holding a martini glass and a gun that would have been more acceptable? I think that the main difference is that the character of James Bond is totally fictional or at least some of his actions are. Wearing a tux would be enough for anyone to recognise Bond,he wouldn't have needed to have props.There are sadly real life characters that are Christian Grey's! It's the difference between " fiction" and reality IMO. Maybe that's the case in GB but in the US, if some kid walked in wearing only a tux, he'd just look like a wedding party escapee and nobody would have a clue who he is. I'm not buying your argument.
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Post by myshelly on Mar 6, 2015 15:06:59 GMT
So if he'd originally gone as James Bond holding a martini glass and a gun that would have been more acceptable? I think that the main difference is that the character of James Bond is totally fictional or at least some of his actions are. Wearing a tux would be enough for anyone to recognise Bond,he wouldn't have needed to have props.There are sadly real life characters that are Christian Grey's! It's the difference between " fiction" and reality IMO. I think that's kind of a silly argument. Christian Grey is a fictional character. Yes, in real life there are rich men who are into bondage. James Bond is a fictional character. But in real life there are men who are, in fact, spies and like hot women. How can you say one in more fiction than the other? They're both fiction.
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Post by imkat on Mar 6, 2015 15:16:30 GMT
11 years old? Props? Inappropriate. Too sexualized for that age.
Seems like this event is to celebrate and encourage reading, so kids should dress up as characters in books they actually read. Hopefully, that is not the case in this situation. It's hard to believe his mother is a teacher. Yuck.
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Post by myshelly on Mar 6, 2015 15:19:05 GMT
I'm far more concerned about the child that age who was dressed as Dexter.
I think the mother has an excellent point about double standards.
From the article, the mom is a teacher? I wonder if she was fed up with all of the inappropriately violent characters and did this as a way to draw attention to it when the school wouldn't listen to her complaints.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 6, 2015 15:23:58 GMT
How does an 11 yo know what bondage ties are? That would be my question, along with knowing that they are appropriate for the character. I haven't read the books/seen the movie, and I know there is a ton of information out there about the book/movie, but even with that-an 11 year old could not put that costume together without the help of an adult. Nor could I see the average 11 year old *wanting* to put that costume together without the encouragement of an adult. I am voting for mom steering this particular bus. Around here kids would be going dressed up as a favorite fictional character from a book they had read and the same rules would be in place regarding props that are in place for Halloween costumes (no weapons, blood, etc.). At 11, DS would have been Monkey D. Luffy, Frankenstein or a boy in striped pajamas.
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Post by imkat on Mar 6, 2015 15:24:19 GMT
So if he'd originally gone as James Bond holding a martini glass and a gun that would have been more acceptable? I think that the main difference is that the character of James Bond is totally fictional or at least some of his actions are. Wearing a tux would be enough for anyone to recognise Bond,he wouldn't have needed to have props.There are sadly real life characters that are Christian Grey's! It's the difference between " fiction" and reality IMO.
For me, the difference between Bond and Grey is this:
Bond is known for many attributes: suave/debonair , gadgets, sports cars, espionage, exotic locations, sex Grey is known for one attribute: sex
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 16:20:26 GMT
I think that the main difference is that the character of James Bond is totally fictional or at least some of his actions are. Wearing a tux would be enough for anyone to recognise Bond,he wouldn't have needed to have props.There are sadly real life characters that are Christian Grey's! It's the difference between " fiction" and reality IMO.
For me, the difference between Bond and Grey is this:
Bond is known for many attributes: suave/debonair , gadgets, sports cars, espionage, exotic locations, sex Grey is known for one attribute: sex
You explained it much better than I did. What you said was actually what I was trying to ( but failed) to point out!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 16:28:47 GMT
I think that the main difference is that the character of James Bond is totally fictional or at least some of his actions are. Wearing a tux would be enough for anyone to recognise Bond,he wouldn't have needed to have props.There are sadly real life characters that are Christian Grey's! It's the difference between " fiction" and reality IMO. I think that's kind of a silly argument. Christian Grey is a fictional character. Yes, in real life there are rich men who are into bondage. James Bond is a fictional character. But in real life there are men who are, in fact, spies and like hot women. How can you say one in more fiction than the other? They're both fiction. Maybe fictional isn't quite the right word. I always think of Bond and his actions ( leaving aside his beautiful women) as a bit far fetched. I've never seen a spy driving round London at 80 miles an hour in an Aston Martin shooting at the car following him or jumping out of helicopters and hanging out of planes!
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Mar 6, 2015 16:30:30 GMT
I think that the main difference is that the character of James Bond is totally fictional or at least some of his actions are. Wearing a tux would be enough for anyone to recognise Bond,he wouldn't have needed to have props.There are sadly real life characters that are Christian Grey's! It's the difference between " fiction" and reality IMO.
For me, the difference between Bond and Grey is this:
Bond is known for many attributes: suave/debonair , gadgets, sports cars, espionage, exotic locations, sex Grey is known for one attribute: sex
Actually, for those of us who like the books, Grey is known for all the same things Bond is except espionage. As for the op, ick! And that's from someone who is a fan! I never understood all the hoopla at Halloween saying that kids couldn't be anything scary, or that carried a sword or a gun. I thought it was a little over the top. But this just doesn't sit well w/me. Can't exactly put my finger on why, but I just don't see the need. I agree - I think the mom was looking to stir up trouble. Like others have said, why would an 11 yr. old even know about such things? And why would he want to dress like that? Again, ick.
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Post by myshelly on Mar 6, 2015 16:56:27 GMT
I think that's kind of a silly argument. Christian Grey is a fictional character. Yes, in real life there are rich men who are into bondage. James Bond is a fictional character. But in real life there are men who are, in fact, spies and like hot women. How can you say one in more fiction than the other? They're both fiction. Maybe fictional isn't quite the right word. I always think of Bond and his actions ( leaving aside his beautiful women) as a bit far fetched. I've never seen a spy driving round London at 80 miles an hour in an Aston Martin shooting at the car following him or jumping out of helicopters and hanging out of planes! So you're saying you *have* seen a billionaire with a red room of pain in real life, please do tell! If you haven't, then that's not a very good argument either...if you've never seen either one in real life that makes them equally fictional still, doesn't it?
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Post by Country Ham on Mar 6, 2015 16:58:19 GMT
So if he'd originally gone as James Bond holding a martini glass and a gun that would have been more acceptable? I mean, I long for the innocent days of yore when he'd have gone as Tom Sawyer, but to draw some distinction between Christian Grey and James Bond is ridiculous. At our school those props would not of been allowed (gun/martini glass)
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Post by peano on Mar 6, 2015 17:03:15 GMT
So if he'd originally gone as James Bond holding a martini glass and a gun that would have been more acceptable? I mean, I long for the innocent days of yore when he'd have gone as Tom Sawyer, but to draw some distinction between Christian Grey and James Bond is ridiculous. At our school those props would not of been allowed (gun/martini glass) My point exactly.
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Post by SnowWhite on Mar 6, 2015 17:26:43 GMT
If Christian Grey truly represented the BDSM community, I would agree with the mother. But he doesn't. He's abusive, controlling and a stalker. I don't think encouraging abuse of women is appropriate.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Mar 6, 2015 17:35:45 GMT
While DD and I talk about everything in age appropriate terms, at 12, I would not appreciate BDSM being a topic at school. You know all of the kids are talking about this costume, especially since it was splashed all over the news. DD would come home with questions loaded, and I hate it when I have to start the conversation with, "Are you REALLY SURE you want to know the answer?"
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Post by georgiapea on Mar 6, 2015 17:45:57 GMT
I haven't read the book, nor did I even know there was such a character, but I am thinking the school exercised a form of literary censure. Maybe if I knew more about the character I'd be horrified so perhaps my opinion is not valid. What about a book on Jack the Ripper, killing prostitutes? That's sexually motivated.
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Post by SnowWhite on Mar 6, 2015 17:55:39 GMT
What about a book on Jack the Ripper, killing prostitutes? That's sexually motivated. I'm not following how you decided killing prostitutes is sexually motivated. ETA: I do see some folks suggest that JTR got sexual pleasure from the murders, but I also see far more people dismissing that. Given that those crimes were never solved, JTR was never identified or caught and there are so many questions as to which murders may have been committed by JTR in the first place, I think this is a wild theory.
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Post by MerryMom on Mar 6, 2015 18:43:04 GMT
The zip ties to tie someone up with? What was the mother thinking?
And I don't think a teacher should be dressed as Dexter either.
Go as Shrek
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Post by anniebygaslight on Mar 6, 2015 19:02:33 GMT
The mother has had her 15 minutes of fame. At the child's expense. Daft cow.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Mar 6, 2015 21:35:25 GMT
I'll just say that don't believe for a second that the 11 yr old boy chose that costume himself.
I think the mom wanted to make a statement.
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