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Post by eebud on May 4, 2015 18:43:08 GMT
I am having a discussion with a friend and would love to have other opinions. My friend thinks that Kate has been hounded by the press as much as Diana was. I think that Diana was hounded MUCH more than Kate has been. I would like other opinions. Would love to hear from some UK peas.
It seems like Diana was not able to sneeze without the press being in the middle of it and her getting followed and hounded anytime she tried to do anything or go anywhere. It seems like Kate has been left alone much more and allowed to live life. Most of the time when I see something related to Kate, it is when she is making an official appearance. Obviously, the birth of the new princess was covered heavily and I would not expect anything different there. But, generally speaking, it seems like Kate has been able to have a private life that it doesn't seem like Diana ever had.
Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 18:45:34 GMT
I agree with you. There was a 'rabidness' in how the press hounded Diana. I don't feel that with the coverage of Kate.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on May 4, 2015 18:46:35 GMT
Diana. Without a doubt. I think William has been instrumental in protecting his wife from the same intrusions his mother suffered.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 18:46:59 GMT
I think it's probably very similar. I do think Kate has made a point to live a more low-key life to this point than Diana did. It's only so interesting to trail her to the grocery store or the playground.
ETA: I don't think the paparazzi go so terrible with Diana until later in life - especially after the divorce.
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Post by missysauter on May 4, 2015 18:47:00 GMT
The press was vicious with Diana after she and Charles divorced. They seem to be much more respectful of Kate.
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Post by padresfan619 on May 4, 2015 18:48:04 GMT
Definitely Diana. Except Kate has had her exploited moments as well, remember when a paparazzi took photos of her sunbathing topless with a telephoto lens? Poor girl just wanted to sunbathe in a private vacation residence and some scumbag had to take her picture.
Also I feel like the royals are being smart now to release official photos to get the paparazzi off their backs.
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Post by gar on May 4, 2015 18:55:05 GMT
There's no question that things have changed since Diana died. Kate isn't hounded in nearly the same way and Prince William has been very protective and instrumental in how she's been treated by the press.
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Post by BarbaraUK on May 4, 2015 19:04:31 GMT
I would say that the press, but particularly the paparazzi, have hounded Catherine and Diana pretty much equally.
They have followed Catherine since she was an item with William right from the start of their days at the University of St Andrews, Scotland - about 14 years ago now - and it has been extremely intense at times.
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Post by eebud on May 4, 2015 19:04:40 GMT
I do remember when Kate was photographed sunbathing topless. That never happened to Diana but I don't know if she was ever in the position to be photographed topless sunbathing. LOL I remember the photo of Diana when she was first engaged where she didn't have a slip on so you could see her silhouette. That was made a pretty big deal for the time. I think that would have been around 1980? I can also see William being very instrumental in how the press treats Kate. What I have really liked is that the press seems to be complying...........at least from my outside, American view of things. LOL
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 19:07:23 GMT
I am having a discussion with a friend and would love to have other opinions. My friend thinks that Kate has been hounded by the press as much as Diana was. I think that Diana was hounded MUCH more than Kate has been. I would like other opinions. Would love to hear from some UK peas. It seems like Diana was not able to sneeze without the press being in the middle of it and her getting followed and hounded anytime she tried to do anything or go anywhere. It seems like Kate has been left alone much more and allowed to live life. Most of the time when I see something related to Kate, it is when she is making an official appearance. Obviously, the birth of the new princess was covered heavily and I would not expect anything different there. But, generally speaking, it seems like Kate has been able to have a private life that it doesn't seem like Diana ever had. Thoughts? I think Kate's husband does a better job of protecting her as much as possible.
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Post by hennybutton on May 4, 2015 19:08:53 GMT
Diana was hounded more. I think part of it was the obvious mismatch between her and Charles. He was so much older and, well, less attractive. She appeared to be shy and self-conscious. She was uncomfortable with the attention. The press is like a bunch of playground bullies, they go for the vulnerable.
On the other hand, Kate is very poised and confident. She seems to be every bit the equal to her husband and they are well-suited for each other. They really seem to like each other. (I never got the impression that Charles and Diana liked each other, much less loved each other.) I don't think William is protecting her so much as she gives the press very little to critique or to speculate about.
Also, this is a different time. When Diana was alive, the internet was nothing. Reality programming didn't exist. Celebrity gossip wasn't as prevalent. I think we're so inundated with celebrity gossip, that a nice princess with a nice marriage and family just isn't interesting.
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Post by Sam on May 4, 2015 19:09:33 GMT
I'd say Diana - I remember her being almost chased to her car as she went to/from the gym or wherever just around the time of the engagement and many times after. I also suspect that, although she was dubbed the 'People's Princess' when it suited the media, they went out of their way to print the more salacious stories about her as well including those which focused on her mental state, manipulative manner (supposed), relationship with others outside of the marriage and speculation over Harry's parentage. I do think that the stance adopted by the Royal Family after the birth of William and Harry have helped with the way in which the media behaves to an extent and has also benefited other members of that family. The most criticism I see of Kate is about how she is dressed, whether she is a little fuddy-duddy for her age and the odd potshot at Pippa for her crappy book and attempt at being some American TV person! However, I see in the Daily Mail (see that as you like, UK peas!!!!) a report from Russian media that the Princess was carried by a surrogate and born a few days ago because, you know, Kate could not possibly look that good a few hours after giving birth - and another story about 'jealous trolls' saying that she is looking too good, but, really, that's media reporting people rather than media creating what people think initially and then letting others do their work for them! As an aside, I am surprised that I have even given this a moment's thought as I am not a typical Royalist. I don't mind them, but don't really care about them either!
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Post by trollie on May 4, 2015 19:09:59 GMT
Diana. Without a doubt. I think William has been instrumental in protecting his wife from the same intrusions his mother suffered. ITA.
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Post by Anita on May 4, 2015 19:13:56 GMT
I think Diana, but I also think Kate came into it knowing what to expect a little better than Diana did.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on May 4, 2015 19:14:42 GMT
Diana.
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Post by rainangel on May 4, 2015 19:34:29 GMT
The mediaattention seemed to get worse for Diana after the divorce. Maybe she was considered fair game when she was no longer part of the Royal family? Maybe Kate is slightly more respected still because she is part of the Royal family now?
What happened to Diana was atrocious! Everything she did after the divorce seemed to be twisted into something bad. She dated men *shock horror* She dared presume she might live a somewhat normal life after getting out of the marriage *the nerve of that woman*
And apparantly the British papparazzi is 10 times worse and more intrusive than any other papparazzi around the world. SO happy I am not a celebrity in England!
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Post by hop2 on May 4, 2015 19:54:22 GMT
I would say that the press, but particularly the paparazzi, have hounded Catherine and Diana pretty much equally. They have followed Catherine since she was an item with William right from the start of their University days in Aberdeen, Scotland - about 14 years ago now - and it has been extremely intense at times. I'm going to agree with Barbra UK 'the press' has been pretty intense with their *attempts* of hounding Catherine. They are about as rabid as they were with Diana pre marital issues. However, it seems that as much as they attempt to hound her, Catherine is much better protected than Diana was. I think some of that is due to William knowing what the press is capable of and protecting his wife. But also some of that is due to Catherine and her cooperation and her choices to be much more low key, she hasn't made it hard to shelter her from the press storm.
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Post by azredhead on May 4, 2015 20:01:51 GMT
It's different with Kate. But yes much more with Diana. I agree with the others.
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Post by lesley on May 4, 2015 20:06:54 GMT
They have followed Catherine since she was an item with William right from the start of their University days in Aberdeen, Scotland - about 14 years ago now - and it has been extremely intense at times. They actually went to the University of St. Andrews, 80 miles south of Aberdeen.
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Post by BarbaraUK on May 4, 2015 20:15:34 GMT
They have followed Catherine since she was an item with William right from the start of their University days in Aberdeen, Scotland - about 14 years ago now - and it has been extremely intense at times. They actually went to the University of St. Andrews, 80 miles south of Aberdeen. Yes, I intended to just say in Scotland.
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Post by eebud on May 4, 2015 20:18:46 GMT
Lots of interesting thoughts on this. I wonder if part of this is because Kate dated William off and on for a long time before they married. She had a lot of years of experience dealing with the attention. It seems like with Diana, it doesn't seem like they ever dated. It seems like she came to light, they were engaged and then wedding took place. Kate was definitely older and more mature when she married than Diana was.
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Post by epeanymous on May 4, 2015 20:19:30 GMT
I think Diana, but I also think Kate came into it knowing what to expect a little better than Diana did. Kate was also older when she married William, and had more life experiences as well. I also think she probably has good support from her parents, as they are nearby. Diana's mother had left the family when she was young and lived in Argentina. Yes, I think it can be tough to remember that Diana was all of nineteen when she became engaged to Charles and got married a few weeks after she turned twenty. And I have to think that it is a little easier to beat back the press when it becomes overbearing when you have a husband who is actually focused on you (which Charles never was), when you had years of press encounters while dating your now-husband during which you could learn to manage the press and decide if you really wanted to deal with it for life, and when the press is popularly held responsible for your predecessor's death such that I have to think that affects the decisions of individual reporters and photographers now. My impression is, indeed, that Kate hasn't been hounded as much. But it is certainly true that I have nothing really to back up that impression other than "that is how it seems to me."
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Post by pierkiss on May 4, 2015 20:25:25 GMT
Diana. I think the royals and the paparazzi learned a BIG lesson with Diana and what happened to her which was directly related to their hounding of her. I believe the paparazzi were asked to give the boys some space until they grew up, so that they could have some privacy and normalcy. I also believe William has asked that they respect his families privacy and in return they will get scheduled interviews, photo ops and photo releases approved by them. And for the most part this has been respected. Not sure if any of that is true, but I swear that's what I remember hearing through the years, watching on TV from America.
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Post by canadianscrappergirl on May 4, 2015 20:34:51 GMT
Definitely Diana ugh she was hounded from the time they were engaged I think one of the first things that started it was that infamous photo of her in a skirt that appeared see thru because she was standing in front of the sun. The press were always after her I think in part because she was so beautiful and very naïve at first with the press.
Also I think she was in the public eye much more then Kate with her various charity work, also the times she did royal appearances like when she was at the white house and danced with John Travolta those types of things really catapulted her into the public spotlight. Kate does these things but the press doesn't seem to hound her as much. I think after her interview that she did about Charles/Camilla etc it got worse and especially when she started dating DF.
I think the paparazzi learned from that with the Royals and I think William has really made efforts to not repeat what his parents did.
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Post by hennybutton on May 5, 2015 0:46:21 GMT
Definitely Diana ugh she was hounded from the time they were engaged I think one of the first things that started it was that infamous photo of her in a skirt that appeared see thru because she was standing in front of the sun. The press were always after her I think in part because she was so beautiful and very naïve at first with the press. Also I think she was in the public eye much more then Kate with her various charity work, also the times she did royal appearances like when she was at the white house and danced with John Travolta those types of things really catapulted her into the public spotlight. Kate does these things but the press doesn't seem to hound her as much. I think after her interview that she did about Charles/Camilla etc it got worse and especially when she started dating DF. I think the paparazzi learned from that with the Royals and I think William has really made efforts to not repeat what his parents did. That sheer skirt caused much more furor than Kate's topless sunbathing. It was downright scandalous. Times have changed.
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Post by akathy on May 5, 2015 0:48:11 GMT
Diana
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 5, 2015 0:53:55 GMT
Diana. Although I do like the coverage of Kate's wardrobe..... She's my kind of princess!
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Post by PLurker on May 5, 2015 0:57:45 GMT
Ditto the Diana
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Post by mollycoddle on May 5, 2015 1:11:50 GMT
Diana, without a doubt. It was a media frenzy with her.
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Post by workingclassdog on May 5, 2015 1:14:34 GMT
Without reading the other responses.. I think Diana was... I remember seeing her on EVERY single magazine out there every single week. With Kate, she seems to be on all the magazines but not in your face like Diana was.... I could be wrong.. and plus social media is a little different... we can see Kate in more different places, like internet/FB/etc.. which wasn't quite all that when Diana died (I think??)....so maybe Kate is out there as much.. I don't know... HA>>....
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