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Post by craftmepink on May 12, 2015 0:20:34 GMT
Hi All,
So my friend and I are debating about how long to give an employer notice when quitting. Situation: My friend has a new job lined up and is waiting for an offer letter. However, she feels that since she is moving cross country to start the job, she doesn't need to give two weeks notice to her employer. She is a couple years younger than me and her current job (think entry level engineering) is her first job out of college.
However, I said that you should always give two weeks notice when quitting a job and it is also a matter of courtesy.
What do you all think? Should you always give your employer's at least 2 weeks notice?
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Post by raindancer on May 12, 2015 0:21:50 GMT
I say give as much notice as possible (2 weeks if possible) because it's never wise to burn bridges.
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Post by scrapaddie on May 12, 2015 0:26:17 GMT
I think in a professional position, two weeks nay not be enough... It depends on the business and how many engineers here are
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 0:27:00 GMT
Two weeks is pretty standard. I wouldn't go much more than that unless I knew I wouldn't be let go immediately. Sometimes a company will release you the same hour you turn in your resignation. But less than that isn't generally a wise move either. She may not plan to come back to that company but no one knows the future. Some day she may want to work there again, or find someone else also moved and that old co-worker in a new place remembers her as just walking away with little or no notice. It is a bridge I wouldn't burn.
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Post by Anita on May 12, 2015 0:32:59 GMT
What is her company's policy? Two weeks is pretty standard.
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Post by caangel on May 12, 2015 0:33:04 GMT
My DH is an engineer. He gave 2 weeks notice and had a plan for how to transition his projects. Much to our surprise he was escorted out the same day, we think it was mostly due to the fact that he was leaving for a big competitor. Most others that have left have given 2 weeks and we're not asked to leave early. I'd be prepared to be asked to leave early but I don't think it would be an issue in her situation and would give 2 weeks notice.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 0:33:06 GMT
Many HR/employers will say NO to the "would you rehire?" question if you fail to give and serve the at least 2 weeks notice. And they don't have to explain why they say NO to the reference question. I've said no on employees that gave little to no notice.
In a professional engineering environment, she never knows when and where she will run into others who know her and will know about it.
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Post by basketdiva on May 12, 2015 0:34:06 GMT
It all depends upon the circumstances. My husband gave 15 minutes notice last May- the same amount of time he was given 6 weeks earlier concerning a demotion and HUGE pay cut. Sometimes it's OK to "burn a bridge".
In your friends case, I think she should give 2 weeks notice and let the new employer know she can start in 3 weeks. It's posible the current employer will just release her immediately. By giving less time, it's possible that the employer would give a reference such as "not rehirable" without an explanation.
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Post by disneypal on May 12, 2015 0:44:54 GMT
Never burn your bridges - it is common practice to give at least a 2 week notice.
She never knows if she may need to use her current employer for a reference one day. The better circumstances she leaves, the better her chances of getting a good reference.
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Post by trainscrapper on May 12, 2015 1:23:12 GMT
Never burn your bridges - it is common practice to give at least a 2 week notice. She never knows if she may need to use her current employer for a reference one day. The better circumstances she leaves, the better her chances of getting a good reference. This, most definitely! I am in the civil engineering/survey field and while changing jobs and gaining further experience is great, references will always be needed. I would give 2 weeks and let them decide if they want to let her go "on the spot". Like others have said you never know when/if you may need someone to give a reference and what they say could land you that next job or not. Good luck to her on this next chapter. |
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Post by mikklynn on May 12, 2015 1:26:44 GMT
I'm in the construction world, senior project engineer. She should absolutely give two weeks notice.
She should also be prepared to be escorted out immediately and not get upset about it. It's a fairly common practice.
It's a small world out there and she'll run into people again. It's best to always be professional at all times.
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Post by MichyM on May 12, 2015 1:29:16 GMT
I can't imagine not giving two weeks notice. For all the reasons above and also...what if her new job didn't work out? Then she would desperately need a good reference from her current employer. it's the right thing to do.
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Post by lancermom on May 12, 2015 1:34:58 GMT
Two weeks for sure. I work in healthcare and some positions are required to give 30 days. You never know. I gave a two week notice and about five years later I was asked to join another company by my former manager.
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Post by GiantsFan on May 12, 2015 1:40:01 GMT
I'm in the two weeks notice camp. She might be be moving across the country but if she's entry level engineering who knows where or for whom she will work in the future. Not to mention the fact that someday she may need a reference.
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Post by mom on May 12, 2015 1:44:16 GMT
Two weeks. I cannot imagine not giving atleast that.
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Post by txdancermom on May 12, 2015 1:46:12 GMT
I think two weeks notice is needed. Some professional type jobs, maybe longer (like upper level management)
Some of the companies I have worked for have had policies asking for 2 weeks for voluntary separation unless there were extraordinary circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 1:49:41 GMT
Engineering is a small world and a woman in engineering is even a smaller world.
Leave on good terms.
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Post by utmr on May 12, 2015 1:49:53 GMT
Barring extenuating circumstances, I say give two weeks notice. Its the professional thing to do, and if they release her immediately she can go ahead and start her move with a clear conscience.
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Post by tincin on May 12, 2015 1:52:47 GMT
Hi All,
So my friend and I are debating about how long to give an employer notice when quitting. Situation: My friend has a new job lined up and is waiting for an offer letter. However, she feels that since she is moving cross country to start the job, she doesn't need to give two weeks notice to her employer. She is a couple years younger than me and her current job (think entry level engineering) is her first job out of college.
However, I said that you should always give two weeks notice when quitting a job and it is also a matter of courtesy.
What do you all think? Should you always give your employer's at least 2 weeks notice?
Thanks! Lately it seems that everyone I know who has given two weeks notice has been let go immediately. I would have to say that employers who do this are setting up all employers for people to work till the last minute and then quit immediately. |
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Post by melanieg on May 12, 2015 1:57:57 GMT
Here if you are employed less than 1 year at the company, you only have to give 1 week notice and 2 weeks if it is over 1 year. That being said, 2 weeks is standard for everyone to give. In my position/industry, the moment we give notice, keys and passcodes are asked for and we are escorted out immediately after being watched to clean out our desk of personal stuff.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 2:01:35 GMT
[[/p][/quote]Lately it seems that everyone I know who has given two weeks notice has been let go immediately. I would have to say that employers who do this are setting up all employers for people to work till the last minute and then quit immediately.
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A lot of engineering firms to this to keep employees from stealing info on new projects that may come in during those 2 weeks. Even telling a new boss what clients came through the doors , can be valuable.
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Post by Ellie on May 12, 2015 2:07:50 GMT
My employer requires salaried employees to give a 30 day written notice. I'd say at least 2 weeks for an engineering job would be necessary.
That said, when my engineer BIL left his job last year he was escorted out immediately after turning in his notice.
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Post by marimoose on May 12, 2015 2:07:57 GMT
It seems to be a fairly common practice to let someone go immediately upon receiving their notice. It is also my understanding that if the employer decides to let you go before your notice period is up that they are responsible for paying you for that time. This could vary from state to state. Giving 2 weeks notice is still the standard and I am not for burning bridges in 99% of the cases.
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Post by scrapmaven on May 12, 2015 2:15:56 GMT
It's a very bad idea to just walk away. She might need this company for a reference at some point in time. She needs to be very professional.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 3:12:40 GMT
Every concession should be made to give two weeks notice, minimum.
Don't burn a bridge by screwing over your former employee. You never know when you might need a reference, etc.
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Post by originalvanillabean on May 12, 2015 3:26:56 GMT
2 weeks notice. Yes.
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Post by cade387 on May 12, 2015 3:33:23 GMT
Engineering is a small world and a woman in engineering is even a smaller world. Leave on good terms.  If she is leaving or heading to the Detroit area (or at all in automotive) that circle will be even smaller. Don't do it. |
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Post by AussieMeg on May 12, 2015 3:36:11 GMT
The company she works for would surely have a policy on that, unless they're a little mom-and-pop business. My employer requires 5 (FIVE!) weeks notice, or up to 11 weeks (I know, right!) if you are a certain level of management.
What is her issue with giving them 2 weeks notice? Is she scared that they're going to get rid of her or not pay her or something? I can't think of any reason why you wouldn't give your employer the courtesy of at least 2 weeks notice.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 3:39:59 GMT
My last job it was a week period. You couldn't work any longer after giving notice.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 5:01:28 GMT
She does need to make sure she has the personal email and phone numbers of those she worked with, especially if those people are PEs. She will need them for references for her own PE test. Get them on paper. Some places will erase your contacts on your personal phone.
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