M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on May 12, 2015 5:14:17 GMT
When my dh gave notice at the company he worked for in Chicago after he was offered his dream job with Cisco in Raleigh, he was asked to help train the people taking over. We had a little over 3 weeks to pack up our place and move to NC before dh had to start his new job.
Dh wished that he could have given more than 2 weeks. As it was, he worked a lot of overtime to help his company. His bosses were thrilled that dh had gotten this job at Cisco, but they were so sad to lose him.
Dh maintains relationships with a lot of his former bosses and coworkers. They've helped each other find jobs, given each other references, and help each other figure out difficult problems they're dealing with at work.
Dh didn't have to help his former company. It was more stressful on us, but it was the right thing to do.
It was also a very business savvy thing to do because dh's former company in Chicago would hire him tomorrow if we decided to move back.
The world is getting smaller everyday. Burning bridges is never a good idea, even if it's completely justified.
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Post by scrappysurfer on May 12, 2015 6:09:10 GMT
She absolutely should give notice if possible.
I left a job without notice before, burned that bridge, and regret it very much.
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Post by khaleesi on May 12, 2015 12:47:19 GMT
Definitely give notice because you never know when you may need to go back. I would say at minimum two weeks, more if she can. When I left the company I work for to move out of state I gave 4 weeks notice. I ended up moving back and got hired back in less than a year later. I know it was because I gave notice and left gracefully and quietly.
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Post by bigbundt on May 12, 2015 13:15:33 GMT
What is her company's policy? Two weeks is pretty standard. This. If it is their SOP to dismiss immediately upon receiving notice, she can bet on that and strategically give notice on the last day she needs to work. But if the company policy requires two week notice, she still needs to give two weeks notice.
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Post by sweetandsour on May 12, 2015 13:19:26 GMT
In my province, you have to give the same amount of notice as your pay period. So if you are paid every week, you need to give one week's notice. If you are paid every 2 weeks, you need to give 2 weeks' notice, and so on.
If an employer lets you go right away, here they have to pay you in lieu of your notice. My friend works for a bank and it's standard you are escorted out of the door within an hour of giving notice. She looks at it as a bonus two-week vacation since she is getting paid for that time.
I would give at least the minimum notice required, if not more.
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melissa
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Post by melissa on May 12, 2015 13:54:16 GMT
I agree that she should give a MINIMUM of 2 weeks notice in this situation. Anything less would be unprofessional. Giving more would actually be considered polite, depending on the environment.
It is a very important lesson to learn that one never knows when and in what capacity one will see people again. Someone old enough to have graduated from college in today's connected world should know better. Situations change, people move. Don't count on never seeing or hearing from the people you work with again.
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Post by raindancer on May 12, 2015 14:26:01 GMT
I agree that she should give a MINIMUM of 2 weeks notice in this situation. Anything less would be unprofessional. Giving more would actually be considered polite, depending on the environment. It is a very important lesson to learn that one never knows when and in what capacity one will see people again. Someone old enough to have graduated from college in today's connected world should know better. Situations change, people move. Don't count on never seeing or hearing from the people you work with again. This is true. And more important than the idea you might need that company again. People aren't loyal to companies any longer (as companies aren't loyal to employees), and you never know who will be brought in to her new company as her new boss or something. It's a small little world out there, and burning a bridge with a company is one thing, but the fact is those people will likely be around again and those bridges you should not burn.
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mallie
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Post by mallie on May 12, 2015 14:27:20 GMT
I would definitely give two weeks notice. No more than that because I know too many people who trusted their employer and who weren't leaving out of any bad feeling, but who were escorted out the door within an hour at most. With no payment of those two weeks. So they lost income they were counting on.
Also, as others have pointed out, it's quite standard for employers to state they would not hire a person back if two weeks notice is not given. I've also been asked in interviews if I've given two weeks notice at every professional job and if they called my previous employers, would the previous employers verify that. I will note that one employer who did escort me out within 15 minutes of giving my two week's notice told my prospective new employer that I gave them 15 minutes notice -- luckily the interviewer called me back and she ended up believing me, especially because my other previous employers confirmed that I DID give two week's notice AND because I had a copy of my resignation letter to show her.
So it's an important part of her future to give that notice.
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Post by 2peaornot2pea on May 12, 2015 14:38:49 GMT
I agree, she should give a minimum of two weeks notice.
Update us on what she decides to do!
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Post by anonrefugee on May 12, 2015 15:06:06 GMT
Let me be the 487th person to say this. Two weeks notice minimum, maybe three if she has specific project responsibilities. Whether or not the firm decides to end employment immediately is irrelevant- this is about her actions and reputation.
She also should wait until she has official offer from future employer.
No matter which engineering field, they are small communities. Most likely she will work with someone at present firm again, in some capacity. No one will remember she made a "just out of college" mistake if she leaves abruptly- they'll only remember she was unreliable flake.
That said- I hope she's got a great opportunity and exciting future.
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Post by anonrefugee on May 12, 2015 15:07:51 GMT
mallie, I missed your bottom paragraphs. How frustrating someone would lie! Glad the new employer believed you.
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Post by bianca42 on May 12, 2015 15:10:29 GMT
It seems to be a fairly common practice to let someone go immediately upon receiving their notice. It is also my understanding that if the employer decides to let you go before your notice period is up that they are responsible for paying you for that time. This could vary from state to state. Giving 2 weeks notice is still the standard and I am not for burning bridges in 99% of the cases. Some employers will, but I don't think they are required. My brother gave 2 weeks in GA last month and was escorted out immediately with no additional pay.
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Post by MerryMom on May 12, 2015 15:31:47 GMT
Regardless of "burning bridges", give the two weeks notice so that the co-workers have time to plan to cover her work when she leaves. Don't burn your coworkers.
I work for children services and for caseworkers and supervisors, we ask for 1 month notice in order to give time to reassign the cases and inform the parents and children.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 16:42:19 GMT
It seems to be a fairly common practice to let someone go immediately upon receiving their notice. It is also my understanding that if the employer decides to let you go before your notice period is up that they are responsible for paying you for that time. This could vary from state to state. Giving 2 weeks notice is still the standard and I am not for burning bridges in 99% of the cases. Some employers will, but I don't think they are required. My brother gave 2 weeks in GA last month and was escorted out immediately with no additional pay. Definitely not required in the US unless there is a contract to the contrary. In many states, the employer could be on the hook for unemployment for part of that time period (minus any waiting period). But all states have different unemployment laws.
Employers are only required to pay you for hours worked. And even an exempt salaried individual can have a partial paycheck on the first and last weeks of work.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 12, 2015 17:35:01 GMT
I gave two weeks notice at my previous job (it was a total surprise to them), and later that day, was told I could leave and that they would pay out the balance of the time, so I wasn't losing any $$. I didn't know any industry secrets or anything; I think sometimes they want to get rid of people so they don't create any dissent or bad feelings in the workplace. You know, the: oh, you're leaving-- where are you going? hey, are they hiring? yeah, I don't like it here, either! sort of thing.
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mallie
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Post by mallie on May 12, 2015 19:00:22 GMT
mallie, I missed your bottom paragraphs. How frustrating someone would lie! Glad the new employer believed you. Thanks! I wasn't too surprised as the reason I left was that the boss who lied was a total bitch who could not be trusted on any matter.
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Post by craftmepink on May 12, 2015 21:14:21 GMT
Thanks all for your responses. I may send her a link to everyone's responses ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) . Well, to clarify, we both work for the same company. And our company would not dismiss an employee after giving 2 weeks notice. It's actually, a really good company to work for. And our bosses are really understanding. Others have left and they've gotten going away lunches, well wishes, etc. The company she's going to work for wants her to start soon, but I told her any reputable company would understand that she has to give a two weeks notice before starting her new job.
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