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Post by cadoodlebug on May 18, 2015 19:55:18 GMT
Did anyone else noticed that Peggy had cats covering the naughty bits on Burt's octopus picture?
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 18, 2015 20:03:10 GMT
Also, I just read that the firm that made the actual Coke ad WAS McCann Erickson!!
"I'd Like to Buy the World a Coke" had its origins on January 18, 1971, in a London fog.
Bill Backer, creative director on the Coca-Cola account for the McCann Erickson advertising agency, was flying to London to meet up with Billy Davis, the music director on the Coca-Cola account, to write radio commercials with two successful British songwriters, Roger Cook and Roger Greenaway, to be recorded by the New Seekers, a popular British singing group.
The heavy fog in London forced the plane to land in Shannon, Ireland. Passengers had to remain near the airport in case the fog lifted. Some of them were furious about their accommodations. By the next day, Backer saw some of the most irate passengers in the airport cafe. Brought together by a common experience, many were now laughing and sharing stories over snacks and bottles of Coca-Cola. Backer wrote of the scene:
"In that moment saw a bottle of Coke in a whole new light... began to see a bottle of Coca-Cola as more than a drink that refreshed a hundred million people a day in almost every corner of the globe. So began to see the familiar words, 'Let's have a Coke,' as more than an invitation to pause for refreshment. They were actually a subtle way of saying, 'Let's keep each other company for a little while.' And knew they were being said all over the world as sat there in Ireland. So that was the basic idea: to see Coke not as it was originally designed to be -- a liquid refresher -- but as a tiny bit of commonality between all peoples, a universally liked formula that would help to keep them company for a few minutes."
When he finally arrived in London, Backer told Billy Davis and Roger Cook what he had seen in the airport café. After he expressed his thoughts about buying everybody in the world a Coke, Backer noticed that Davis's initial reaction was not at all what he'd expected and asked him, "Billy, do you have a problem with this idea?"
Davis slowly revealed his problem. "Well, if I could do something for everybody in the world, it would not be to buy them a Coke."
Backer responded, "What would you do?"
"I'd buy everyone a home first and share with them in peace and love," Davis said.
Backer said, "Okay, that sounds good. Let's write that and I'll show you how Coke fits right into the concept."
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back to *pea*ality
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Post by back to *pea*ality on May 18, 2015 20:08:29 GMT
I was so captivated by Mad Men in the earlier years - the nostalgia, vintage fashion was enhanced by great writing and talented cast. For me, it went on a couple of seasons too long. I found I was more interested in the stories of the female characters - Peggy, Joan and Betty. Too much time and repetition on Don Draper story lines left me saying why am I still watching this.
The ending is certainly open to interpretation but what I got out of it was that Don needs to be destructive and go to dark places of his personality which is essentially the muse for his creativity.
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Post by spitfiregirl on May 18, 2015 20:58:42 GMT
Don totally did the coke commercial. I think his metamorphosis started when the man st therapy was crying and Don went and hugged him. Don wanted to make this man feel better. He changed from being so selfish. He changed his whole outlook. He wants to make the world feel better….. with a coke… Don went home …. and wanted to make the world a better place…. so now he's taking care of his kids and doing great at work…. and volunteering at the soup kitchen….
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 18, 2015 21:08:52 GMT
The writers were setting us up for the finale with Coke. Don fixed a Coke machine. Joan and Richard DID coke! Of course he did the ad!
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Post by huskergal on May 18, 2015 21:19:53 GMT
The waitress story was a complete and utter waste of time. Really makes me mad that they did that when it went no where and there are so many more interesting characters that deserved more air time.
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Post by oh yvonne on May 18, 2015 21:49:48 GMT
Ahh..it's over..<sniff> I can't. No more Don and Roger, and Peggy. Brilliant catch about all the coke references, Joy, I didn't even put that all together! I agree about all the wasted time these final episodes, so much time spent on characters I didn't care about, but it all came together in the end. But, I'm going to go against the crowd here and say that I did not like Peggy and Stan hooking up. What was that?! I never saw any tension or anything between them, that felt kinda thrown together at the last minute to give her some sort of happy ending. Boo on that, I think Peggy deserved a better ending. Don and Betty's phone conversation.."bunny"..gah that got me. And Sally stepping up to the plate, washing dishes while Betty sucked on one more cigarette...
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Post by spitfiregirl on May 18, 2015 22:15:05 GMT
how bout Don giving his cargo the younger Don lookalike? and the speeding through the desert? what was that all about?
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 18, 2015 23:23:53 GMT
Ahh..it's over..<sniff> I can't. No more Don and Roger, and Peggy. Brilliant catch about all the coke references, Joy, I didn't even put that all together! I agree about all the wasted time these final episodes, so much time spent on characters I didn't care about, but it all came together in the end. But, I'm going to go against the crowd here and say that I did not like Peggy and Stan hooking up. What was that?! I never saw any tension or anything between them, that felt kinda thrown together at the last minute to give her some sort of happy ending. Boo on that, I think Peggy deserved a better ending. Don and Betty's phone conversation.."bunny"..gah that got me. And Sally stepping up to the plate, washing dishes while Betty sucked on one more cigarette... Interesting. I always thought Peggy and Stan were skirting around a relationship. And I thought Don called Betty *Berdie*??
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 18, 2015 23:25:20 GMT
how bout Don giving his cargo the younger Don lookalike? and the speeding through the desert? what was that all about? I think that was the Dick persona, not Don.
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Post by huskergal on May 19, 2015 2:16:02 GMT
He did call Betty, Birdie.
I was okay with the phone calls. He talked to the 3 most important women in his life and it completely broke him.
The more I think about it, the less happy I am with Peggy and Stan. She should be okay without a man. Then again, the relationship may not last forever either. But I loved her bad ass self walking in the office with the sunglasses and cigarette. That was her best moment. They kind of cheesed it out. I know they did that for the fans.
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Post by auntkelly on May 19, 2015 3:24:20 GMT
I guess I am very skeptical of human nature. At first I thought Don was really being kind and compassionate when he hugged that poor man who had the sad dream. Then I saw the Coke commercial at the end and I decided Don was hugging the man and crying for a purely selfish reason.
I think Don was completely lost and ready to kill himself. He was completely burnt out with advertising and searching for something meaningful in life. He tried the touchy feely retreat, but he thought it was pretty silly. He reluctantly went back into the group session because he really didn't have any other choice.
I think the man's dream struck a chord with Don because the dream represented the advertising world. Why did that man sit in the refrigerator and never get chosen? I think Don thought if the man had just had a good advertising man, such as Don, he would have gotten chosen. In Don's mind, it's all in the marketing of the product.
I think Don was hugging the man and crying because Don suddenly realized he really didn't want to drop out of the advertising world after all, he just needed some fresh inspiration.
i think when he got back to the ad agency, he used his experience at the retreat to tap into the popular culture of the time and sell a product. I don't think his experience at the retreat changed him at all.
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 19, 2015 4:04:48 GMT
I guess I am very skeptical of human nature. At first I thought Don was really being kind and compassionate when he hugged that poor man who had the sad dream. Then I saw the Coke commercial at the end and I decided Don was hugging the man and crying for a purely selfish reason. I think Don was completely lost and ready to kill himself. He was completely burnt out with advertising and searching for something meaningful in life. He tried the touchy feely retreat, but he thought it was pretty silly. He reluctantly went back into the group session because he really didn't have any other choice. I think the man's dream struck a chord with Don because the dream represented the advertising world. Why did that man sit in the refrigerator and never get chosen? I think Don thought if the man had just had a good advertising man, such as Don, he would have gotten chosen. In Don's mind, it's all in the marketing of the product. I think Don was hugging the man and crying because Don suddenly realized he really didn't want to drop out of the advertising world after all, he just needed some fresh inspiration. i think when he got back to the ad agency, he used his experience at the retreat to tap into the popular culture of the time and sell a product. I don't think his experience at the retreat changed him at all. I choose to think Don felt empathy for the man and actually understood what the man was saying.
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Post by Monica* on May 19, 2015 10:59:08 GMT
I guess I am very skeptical of human nature. At first I thought Don was really being kind and compassionate when he hugged that poor man who had the sad dream. Then I saw the Coke commercial at the end and I decided Don was hugging the man and crying for a purely selfish reason. I think Don was completely lost and ready to kill himself. He was completely burnt out with advertising and searching for something meaningful in life. He tried the touchy feely retreat, but he thought it was pretty silly. He reluctantly went back into the group session because he really didn't have any other choice. I think the man's dream struck a chord with Don because the dream represented the advertising world. Why did that man sit in the refrigerator and never get chosen? I think Don thought if the man had just had a good advertising man, such as Don, he would have gotten chosen. In Don's mind, it's all in the marketing of the product. I think Don was hugging the man and crying because Don suddenly realized he really didn't want to drop out of the advertising world after all, he just needed some fresh inspiration. i think when he got back to the ad agency, he used his experience at the retreat to tap into the popular culture of the time and sell a product. I don't think his experience at the retreat changed him at all. I choose to think Don felt empathy for the man and actually understood what the man was saying. My impression was that it was empathy also. Although this man was very opposite of Don, it seemed like it was the first time he heard someone express what he was feeling inside -- that fleeting feeling of being apart of something, but then then the door shuts and you are left in darkness again. It struck such a chord in Don, that he instantly felt a connection with the man and went to hug him. It was his emotional breakthrough and allowed him to ultimately find peace and his creativity again.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 11:17:03 GMT
But, I'm going to go against the crowd here and say that I did not like Peggy and Stan hooking up. What was that?! I never saw any tension or anything between them, that felt kinda thrown together at the last minute to give her some sort of happy ending. Boo on that, I think Peggy deserved a better ending. I thought the finale was great, but I am a stars-in-the-eyes fan girl and this show can basically do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. Having said that, in this one case I think they did mis-step, I totally agree with Yvonne. While that seen was unfolding with Peggy and Stan, it did not ring true to me at all. At first I thought he was pulling her leg to get back at her for being such a bitch to him, but right away I dismissed that because he's a good guy. Then when he showed up in her office and they kissed I was just like, No. That doesn't work. I didn't cheer or tear up as I normally would during a scene like this, after investing all this time and liking these characters so much. Because I had the same reaction as Peggy. "What?" They were great office buddies, but I never felt like there was a real chemistry there. Well, even so, I'm glad we left Peggy with a happy ending and a good man.
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Post by imkat on May 19, 2015 12:18:35 GMT
Don - I agree he did feel empathy, he did find some measure of peace, and he did create the Coke commercial. I really thought he would throw away his Don Draper persona and become Dick Whitman.
Stan and Peggy - I do think there was a deep friendship, and Stan was always attracted to Peggy. I was hoping she would continue with her coworker's brother-in-law with whom she was planning the spontaneous trip to Paris.
Joan - I never liked her character too much, but I'm glad she's not stuck with that jerk. I could have seen her with Roger if things had not worked out for him with Marie.
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Post by spitfiregirl on May 19, 2015 13:02:57 GMT
Did you notice the COKE theme throughout? Joan and her dude did coke, don fixed the coke machine, the therapy guy was stuck on a refrigerator and no one chose him..... And of course the ending...
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Post by scrappintoee on May 20, 2015 1:47:06 GMT
CaDoodlebug....no, I didn't notice Peggy had put cats on the octopus picture....LOL!...
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on May 20, 2015 1:51:47 GMT
Did anyone else noticed that Peggy had cats covering the naughty bits on Burt's octopus picture? haha no I'm going to go back and look for that
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 20, 2015 2:11:10 GMT
There have been articles and pictures on Facebook all day. One is an interview with Jon Hamm with his interpretation of the finale. Yep, he did the Coke commercial. There is also a wonderful display of photos that goes on and on. I'll see if I can find it again and link it. (Which I suck at.)
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