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Post by moveablefeast on May 22, 2015 22:19:14 GMT
I'm glad you feel comfortable letting your kids run the neighborhood on a gorgeous day like this. Mine is enjoying it too.
However, if you are not going to school your child on why it is inappropriate to refer to another child as a motherfucker or an adult woman passerby as a cunt, I will.
Because those are two words I did not really want to explain to my 7yo today.
Just sayin.
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Post by anxiousmom on May 22, 2015 22:23:31 GMT
Holy cow...!! I trend more toward the free range parent, but I promise you-if you came to me and told me that my children were speaking that way there would be a consequence of epic proportions. While I may let them range about, I will not tolerate disrespectful behavior on any level. ETA: And, by the way, I also believe very much in the idea that sometimes it takes the village to raise a kid-so I would welcome you saying something to my kid. Sometimes hearing from someone other than parent makes a real difference.
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Post by samantha25 on May 22, 2015 22:24:03 GMT
Whoa. not appropriate. What did you say?
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Post by greenlegume on May 22, 2015 22:25:08 GMT
Eh, they sound like assholian parents more than free-range parents . . .
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Post by gar on May 22, 2015 22:26:56 GMT
Good for you for speaking to them. Did you get a mouthful back?
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Post by Zee on May 22, 2015 22:27:25 GMT
WOW. I try to remember that kids sometimes are just pushing the boundaries, but calling an adult a cunt?
I don't even know what I would sayto that kid, to be honest.
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Post by akathy on May 22, 2015 22:27:46 GMT
Holy cow...!! I trend more toward the free range parent, but I promise you-if you came to me and told me that my children were speaking that way there would be a consequence of epic proportions. While I may let them range about, I will not tolerate disrespectful behavior on any level. That's exactly how I was. It makes you wonder what kind of language that poor kid is exposed to on a daily basis. It makes me sad for the kid
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Post by eebud on May 22, 2015 22:30:36 GMT
I'm glad you feel comfortable letting your kids run the neighborhood on a gorgeous day like this. Mine is enjoying it too. However, if you are not going to school your child on why it is inappropriate to refer to another child as a motherfucker or an adult woman passerby as a cunt, I will. Because those are two words I did not really want to explain to my 7yo today. Just sayin. Why only those kids whose parents are free range? I wouldn't care if a parent was there or not. If the parent jumps in immediately regarding what their kid says, great. If not, I am not keeping my mouth shut. I don't care if a parent is standing there or not.
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Post by ljs1691 on May 22, 2015 22:31:32 GMT
OMG! I feel your pain. We have a little sister (3 to 4-ish) of a baseball teammate that thinks it is ok to kick people, my dh included. This week she threw a handful of sand and dirt all over a kid (unprovoked) and her mom thinks it is hilarious. Like seriously, why would anyone think this behavior is cute.
I won't ask how in the world you managed to actually explain the meaning of those two words.
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Post by alittleintrepid on May 22, 2015 22:33:30 GMT
I'm fully in support of any adult intervening to parent little assholes when their parents can't be bothered. I think Freerange parents don't consider that they are inviting more limits on their children's lives when they let other adults parent in their place.
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Post by Zee on May 22, 2015 22:36:05 GMT
Kids hear ask kind of things at school, doesn't mean the parents are where they hear it.
The stories my kids told me later about what they heard on the bus when they were in grade school would curl your hair!
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Post by freecharlie on May 22, 2015 23:49:15 GMT
I don't know what the hell "freerange" parenting is. Does it mean I don't have to have my eyes on my kids 24/7? Why is that a bad thing?
If my kids every called anybody the c-word, I hope someone would correct them.
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Post by JustTricia on May 23, 2015 0:08:02 GMT
Wow. I really would hope they heard it at school and not at home. Not that makes it any better, but I really hope that's not what anyone in that kid's house is being called. I don't think I'm wording what I was want to say well.
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Post by johnnysmom on May 23, 2015 0:13:48 GMT
Holy cow...!! I trend more toward the free range parent, but I promise you-if you came to me and told me that my children were speaking that way there would be a consequence of epic proportions. While I may let them range about, I will not tolerate disrespectful behavior on any level. ETA: And, by the way, I also believe very much in the idea that sometimes it takes the village to raise a kid-so I would welcome you saying something to my kid. Sometimes hearing from someone other than parent makes a real difference.
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Post by bethany102399 on May 23, 2015 0:27:32 GMT
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Post by epeanymous on May 23, 2015 0:29:58 GMT
That doesn't have anything to do with "free range" parenting.
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Post by moveablefeast on May 23, 2015 0:40:12 GMT
Whoa. not appropriate. What did you say? I was so taken aback that I didn't know what to say. I think what came out was something like, I don't think your mothers would be very proud to hear you talk that way and I'm embarrassed for you, you need to know that it's disrespectful to talk to people that way and you wouldn't want someone saying that to your mom or your sister, it doesn't make you sound cool but it makes you sound like you have no respect for yourself or anyone else. i got blank, slackjawed stares so I am thinking they were as taken aback as I was.
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Post by withapea on May 23, 2015 0:44:27 GMT
Those kids were so very out of line but it has nothing to do with free range parenting. I've seen a lot of kids act like jerks while their parents completely ignored the offending behavior.
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Post by hop2 on May 23, 2015 0:53:42 GMT
Whoa. not appropriate. What did you say? I was so taken aback that I didn't know what to say. I think what came out was something like, I don't think your mothers would be very proud to hear you talk that way and I'm embarrassed for you, you need to know that it's disrespectful to talk to people that way and you wouldn't want someone saying that to your mom or your sister, it doesn't make you sound cool but it makes you sound like you have no respect for yourself or anyone else. i got blank, slackjawed stares so I am thinking they were as taken aback as I was. you go girl
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Post by foolana on May 23, 2015 1:01:09 GMT
Holy cow! Why would a kid even know that word?
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Post by Sassenach on May 23, 2015 1:08:42 GMT
How old were the kids, and do you know who the parents are? I don't like confronting people in person, so I might send an email or a letter. (Our neighborhood has a printed and an online phone and email directory of all the residents. It's voluntary, btw) The parents might not have any idea that their kids are acting like this. If it were my kids I wiuld want to know.
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Post by moveablefeast on May 23, 2015 1:15:13 GMT
How old were the kids, and do you know who the parents are? I don't like confronting people in person, so I might send an email or a letter. The parents might not have any idea that their kids are acting like this. If it were my kids I wiuld want to know. Fourth grade and sixth grade. I know the moms because we all use the same bus stop. I will have to say something when I see them again on Tuesday. I thought they were generally nice but mildly undisciplined kids whose most irksome behavior was riding their bikes in the street without looking for cars - which I do kind of chalk up to their free-ranginess and generally overlook because they are kids - so this was a big surprise to hear that kind of language.
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Post by melanell on May 23, 2015 1:19:55 GMT
I don't think being "free range" has anything to do with this at all.
When I was a kid, every kid in my neighborhood was "free range". And that was okay. Building independence in a relatively safe environment has some real benefits. Every kid did absolutely hear some feedback from other parents now and again, and that was okay. It takes a village and all.
But, in my entire childhood, I never heard even one of the neighborhood kids utter either of those words to one another and certainly not to an adult.
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Post by Prenticekid on May 23, 2015 1:49:40 GMT
Free range parenting has nothing to do with piss poor parenting.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on May 23, 2015 2:00:03 GMT
That's horrific from children that age. I would have had to say something in the moment as you did. I don't think I could just let it go by given their ages.
As a mother, I would hope not only would someone call my children out if they had ever used language like that, but they would make sure I knew too.
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Post by anxiousmom on May 23, 2015 2:00:16 GMT
Holy cow! Why would a kid even know that word? Oh, you would be surprised. All it takes is one kid with an older brother, cousin or parent who slipped one day and the kid is off and running. My special little perfect snowflakes knew a vocabulary that would make a sailor blush-and I have no clue where they learned it.
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Post by 3dcrafter on May 23, 2015 2:13:10 GMT
I'm glad you feel comfortable letting your kids run the neighborhood on a gorgeous day like this. Mine is enjoying it too. However, if you are not going to school your child on why it is inappropriate to refer to another child as a motherfucker or an adult woman passerby as a cunt, I will. Because those are two words I did not really want to explain to my 7yo today. Just sayin. I'm really bothered with the assumption that their parents aren't "schooling" on what is inappropriate language. Kids do have minds of their own and can misbehave despite a parents teaching. I truly do hope you follow though with letting their parents know what they said....as a parent I would want to know if it were my child(ren) and ASAP.
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Post by jumperhop on May 23, 2015 2:24:40 GMT
"My Mommy said I am not allowed to talk to you because she loves me"
My sweet, timid, quiet, shy, shy, shy 16 year old daughter (who got an A in biology) was paired up in her Biology class with two boys who referred to her not by her name Kayla but as,"The Bitch." I asked her if she told the teacher and she said the teacher already knew because they call me "The Bitch" during class discussions (plural) with the teacher. The teacher just ignored it. Sad to me that the only vocabulary words some children seem to know are swear words. Even Sadder to be is thinking how these children learn these words. And the fact they think its appropriate to say them. jen
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Post by maryland on May 23, 2015 2:32:36 GMT
Holy cow...!! I trend more toward the free range parent, but I promise you-if you came to me and told me that my children were speaking that way there would be a consequence of epic proportions. While I may let them range about, I will not tolerate disrespectful behavior on any level. ETA: And, by the way, I also believe very much in the idea that sometimes it takes the village to raise a kid-so I would welcome you saying something to my kid. Sometimes hearing from someone other than parent makes a real difference. Exactly! You could call us pretty free range with our daughters. They are great kids and very trustworthy, so they get a lot of freedom. Our girls know that if they ever speak disrespectfully to someone they will be in big trouble. And I am more than happy for any adult to discipline my kids if they need it.
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Post by AussieMeg on May 23, 2015 2:52:59 GMT
OMG, are you serious??? How old were the kids? That's revolting. I'm glad you feel comfortable letting your kids run the neighborhood on a gorgeous day like this. Mine is enjoying it too. However, if you are not going to school your child on why it is inappropriate to refer to another child as a motherfucker or an adult woman passerby as a cunt, I will. Because those are two words I did not really want to explain to my 7yo today. Just sayin. I'm really bothered with the assumption that their parents aren't "schooling" on what is inappropriate language. Kids do have minds of their own and can misbehave despite a parents teaching. I truly do hope you follow though with letting their parents know what they said....as a parent I would want to know if it were my child(ren) and ASAP.
I don't believe moveablefeast said she was going to let the parents know. I doubt she even knows who the parents are. What she said was that she would tell the kids that it is inappropriate to use those words.
I do agree with you that it is totally feasible that the kids have been told not to use those words but do it anyway out of earshot of their parents. My son never swears in front of me, but I'm sure he lets the odd bad word out when he's with his mates. If he ever said either of those words and I found out about there would be serious repercussions.
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