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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 20:01:44 GMT
My husbands employer has an IRA that we and they contribute to every month. We want to retire at 55 and know that if it is not truly a 401k we cannot pull from the IRA without penalty until 59 1/2.
Aside from just "saving money" in a regular ole bank account to supplement us between 55 and 59 1/2, any other suggestions on what to do? I don't want to have to work an additional 4 1/2 years just to keep the IRS out my money!
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Post by Meri-Lyn on May 26, 2015 20:04:52 GMT
You can't pull from a 401(k) at 55, either, unless you are doing some kind of annuity option.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 20:08:21 GMT
I said that based off of the rule of 55 that says that you can withdraw at 55 if you are leaving your employers service, like quitting. It says that you can and not receive the 10% penalty. link
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Post by peaname on May 26, 2015 20:10:09 GMT
You can in some cases withdraw from a 401K at 55 if you retire from the company that year. Consult an expert, not the Peas though you don't want to get stuck paying a penalty.
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Post by ReneeH20 on May 26, 2015 20:11:30 GMT
I would suggest finding a financial adviser to help you with these questions. This stuff can get complicated and a good one can help you plan for retirement at 55. S/he could look at everything - savings, regular IRA, Roth IRA, 401K, pensions, social security, tax implications, etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 20:38:00 GMT
I would suggest finding a financial adviser to help you with these questions. This stuff can get complicated and a good one can help you plan for retirement at 55. S/he could look at everything - savings, regular IRA, Roth IRA, 401K, pensions, social security, tax implications, etc. Oh we have one, I was just asking if any of the peas had found a creative way, other than just separate savings, to fund that 4 1/2 year gap. I am sure that the FA has told my husband lots of things that he can do, but he tends to get that glassy look after the first few words!
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Post by Meri-Lyn on May 26, 2015 22:36:45 GMT
The plan document has to allow it, and many do not. iIf you are not directly rolling over to another IRA or plan, you will still get hit with the 20% in back-up withholding. (from someone who's worked in industry for 18 years.) You will want to speak to your plan administrator and ask for a copy of your Summary Plan Description.
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Post by Meri-Lyn on May 26, 2015 22:41:17 GMT
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Post by imkat on May 26, 2015 22:52:26 GMT
From the IRS document (which I plan to confirm with our financial planner):
Additional exceptions for qualified retirement plans. The tax does not apply to distributions that are: From a qualified retirement plan (other than an IRA) after your separation from service in or after the year you reached age 55 (age 50 for qualified public safety employees)
Example. George separated from service from his employer at age 49. In the year he reached age 55 he took a distribution from his retirement plan. Because he separated from service before he reached age 55, he did not meet the requirements for the exception for a distribution made from a qualified retirement plan (other than an IRA) after separating from service in or after reaching age 55 (age 50 for qualified public safety employees).
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 23:02:26 GMT
Definitely listen to the advice of experts. Not all products/plans are the same. Not all plan documents are the same. The IRS does have specific rules/laws, but the plan has to choose to allow certain distributions. Get a copy of the SPD and the plan document if needed.
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Post by eebud on May 26, 2015 23:13:08 GMT
You do have to be 55 when you separate from service. Make sure you are going by the advice of a financial adviser.
In some cases, it depends on what you need to fund and what options are available to you. For example, an HSA account can be used for COBRA insurance premiums. So, if you expect to need to take out COBRA for the time limit COBRA is allowed, and if you have an HSA option, you can put money there tax free and withdraw when paying COBRA premiums. An HSA cannot be used for regular insurance premiums though. I think there are some medicare related premiums that it can be used for but you are looking for money at 55, not 65. If you will already have insurance through a retirement plan with a company and won't need to pay premiums or at least don't need COBRA, you can use the HSA money for its intended use.......medical expenses not covered by insurance.
You can always invest in Mutual Funds. Your capital gains are taxable in the year that you receive them which means you will pay taxes on money that might be reinvested in the account and didn't really come to you. You need to be prepared for these at tax time. It makes it harder to estimate you Federal Tax bill because you don't have control of what the fund manager does with buying and selling and dividends from investments in the Mutual Fund could be paid on stocks that the fund holds. You can set up an account with any of the companies......Fidelity, Vanguard, etc. etc. and invest all you want.
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Post by scrapperal on May 26, 2015 23:14:18 GMT
If you can contribute to a Roth IRA, that might be your best bet. My understanding is that you can withdraw your contributions (not earnings) tax free at any time, since you've already paid taxes on the contributions. Note that I'm not a financial planner, nor do I pretend to be one. Here's an article about it. Note that the author is "just" a blogger, but he does provide links to the IRS website.
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Post by ReneeH20 on May 27, 2015 14:42:26 GMT
I would suggest finding a financial adviser to help you with these questions. This stuff can get complicated and a good one can help you plan for retirement at 55. S/he could look at everything - savings, regular IRA, Roth IRA, 401K, pensions, social security, tax implications, etc. Oh we have one, I was just asking if any of the peas had found a creative way, other than just separate savings, to fund that 4 1/2 year gap. I am sure that the FA has told my husband lots of things that he can do, but he tends to get that glassy look after the first few words! Then you should go to the meetings. I meet with mine both separately (working on my investments in the IRA that I converted from several 401ks and my Roth IRA that I contribute annually to) and with my DH. I think it's important to get an over all plan together.
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Post by anonrefugee on May 27, 2015 21:05:15 GMT
Oh we have one, I was just asking if any of the peas had found a creative way, other than just separate savings, to fund that 4 1/2 year gap. I am sure that the FA has told my husband lots of things that he can do, but he tends to get that glassy look after the first few words! Then you should go to the meetings. I meet with mine both separately (working on my investments in the IRA that I converted from several 401ks and my Roth IRA that I contribute annually to) and with my DH. I think it's important to get an over all plan together. I was going to suggest this, in case you don't already. I learned when we were first married DH remembers the options aligning with his preconceived plans- not the best way to take advantage of a consultants advice! Since that time- no separate meetings.
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