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Post by luvmygirls on Jun 3, 2015 20:58:23 GMT
My parents have already passed away. I was executor of their will so I don't have any issues regarding their Estate. My DHs parents are another story. He is an only child so everything will fall on him. His parents are divorced and neither are remarried. His Dad won't have anything to leave DH so that really isn't an issue. His Mom on the other hand has assets. She redone her will recently but DH has no idea what it says. He won't ask either. He doesn't even know where a copy is. Who knows if he's even mentioned in it, even though they have a fairly good relationship. However when she redone her will she asked for my DDs SSNs which DH gave her against my better judgement, only because my identity was stolen my a family member (not MIL). I have asked him to bring up the subject with his Mom, but he refuses. I've left it alone and have stayed out of it. I'm just wondering how other families are regarding the estate of their parents.
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Post by papersilly on Jun 3, 2015 21:03:18 GMT
it is never too early to discuss that kind of stuff. even better while the parents are healthy and are of sound mind. that way it isn't done during a period of illness or stress. both my parents had trusts and when my mom got sick, I'm glad all that was already taken care of so she could focus on her health and not estate matters.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 21:13:08 GMT
It's never too early. I vaguely know where my parents' paperwork is although right now, my aunt is the executor. I do know they have updated it to factor in a certain amount and things for the boys. Otherwise, it's 50/50 between me and my sister. If something happens to my aunt or if the relationship between Dad and her gets worse, I'm sure they'll update to make me or DH the executor. Yes, they'll make DH the executor simply so that he can deal with the phone calls I hate. If your MIL is retired and is drawing social security, then I'd tell DH he needs to at least find out where the important paperwork is.
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Post by scrapaddie on Jun 3, 2015 21:15:42 GMT
I know exactly where the paperwork was, I knew the name address and phone number of the lawyer, and I knew what my dad's wishes were.
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Post by librarylady on Jun 3, 2015 21:16:46 GMT
I have spoken in vague terms with our son. I have one son and 2 step sons. When we redid our wills a couple of years ago, I was going to tell all 3 all of the facts. Our attorney advised against it. He said it creates problems. Most of our assets will be split 3 ways. However, my son will get more $$ because it is money from my family. I have explained that in a letter to be given to the sons upon our death.
I have told my son that xxx will be yours upon our death.
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Post by dreamer on Jun 3, 2015 21:18:05 GMT
Do you talk with your MIL? You might just bring it up when you are together. I'd mention that your parents had you be the Executor and you just wanted to make sure her wishes were followed out. If she has a will she may have a lawyer doing all of that and your DH will just get the phone call.
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Post by caro on Jun 3, 2015 21:19:31 GMT
It's never too early while they are healthy. I will say a tacky time is to hand out a piece of paper at the graveside stating all assets DH's grandmother had will go to grandmother's DD. every family member got this paper handed out by DH's aunt's husband. It never crossed DH's mind about her assets and especially at her graveside service.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 21:24:47 GMT
I'm the oldest sibling and I see it as part of my responsibility to my siblings and my parents to deal w this stuff early and often no matter how uncomfortable it is. I don't tolerate sticking your head in the sand as if it will go away if ignored. I would be having a very frank come to Jesus meeting w my husband. It truly is a last loving gesture for people to have their affairs in order and for everyone who may be impacted to know what's what.
Have you considered having your financial planner speak to your husband about the importance of these steps from a very practical point of view?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 21:26:49 GMT
My mom and my ILs each gave us a paper that has the location of all important papers. I don't know what's actually in their wills, but I know where the copies are and who their lawyer is.
I think you should ask that if anything happens to her, where does she keep important papers. You might want to ask her if she has a health care proxy in place, also. Having my dad's proxy made things much easier when he had advanced Alzheimer's and lots of decisions needed to be made.
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Post by marysue63 on Jun 3, 2015 21:33:53 GMT
I think you should at least know where her important papers, including her will, are located but I don't think there is ever a good time to ask what the will says. To me that is nobody's business but hers.
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Post by Miss Lerins Momma on Jun 3, 2015 21:34:16 GMT
I would just leave it alone. If she asked for your children's SSN#'s, then I would think she is leaving her estate to them. If you have the kind of relationship with your MIL to where you can talk to her about it, then by all means talk to her about it... but if you don't, then what else can you do?
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Post by Loydene on Jun 3, 2015 21:57:29 GMT
My Mother has a 3 ring binder in which everything is filed. She drags it out at the drop of a hat to insure that everyone knows what is in it and what she wants. WE don't need to talk about it -- she ALWAYS talks about it!!!
And ... families need to talk about it -- Powers of Attorney for medical matters, the quality of life our parents want -- I'm not talking about having something "left" (my advice to my Mother is spend it all!) .... I'm talking about how they want to live and dying with dignity.
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Post by scrappysurfer on Jun 3, 2015 22:01:33 GMT
My mother's only asset is her house and although we haven't had the discussion, I suspect it will be split between my brother and I who are her only biological children. My other siblings will get certain possessions, particularly those that originally belonged to their mother (china, some jewelry) but I never would have begrudged them these items anyway. I don't believe they have any interest in the house, it is run down and not worth much.
My DH has had the discussion with his mother and stepfather. His step sister is the executor of the estate and they know their assets will be mostly liquidated and split evenly amongst the siblings. Our share is either ×× amount of cash, or their current house plus cash to make everything even. I know I will be receiving MIL'S jewelry collection, DH will receive his stepfather's car. Everything is spelled out in writing and we have no worries about his sister making things right.
The only problem is DHs brother, who is a greedy, angry, intolerable ass. My biggest fear is that when they finally do pass he will swoop in and start taking things without regards to the will, or that if either in-law passes to before the other he will move in and take "possession" of the house and everything due DH and I. Once that happens it will become an intolerable fight to make things right, he will never give up what he takes, it may come to blows between him and DH and it will finally be the end of their relationship (fine by me!! Lol). Our only option against him, will be to move in with either parent after one passes. I'm not interested in that option either. I'm afraid BIL will get his way as he usually does by just doing whatever he wants and everyone just letting him to avoid a literal fight.... It's the story of his (and DHs life). I just hope me and my boys will get what we are due.
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Post by cycworker on Jun 3, 2015 22:07:17 GMT
I think you should at least know where her important papers, including her will, are located but I don't think there is ever a good time to ask what the will says. To me that is nobody's business but hers. I completely agree with this post. My parents left me with a list of info while they were away on a recent trip. At my request (borderline insistence) mom sealed the envelope. And that was just a listing of where the bank accounts are, etc. But I do NOT want to know anything about my parents' financial worth. It's none of my business. Medical wishes? Yes. Who the executor is for their wills? Yes. But the specific contents of a person's will? That's private.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jun 3, 2015 22:43:21 GMT
I think you should at least know where her important papers, including her will, are located but I don't think there is ever a good time to ask what the will says. To me that is nobody's business but hers. I agree with this as well. Asking about the process of it all to be able to carry out her wishes effectively is completely appropriate and to her advantage. But asking about the content may be crossing the line depending on the relationship you have with her.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 3, 2015 22:59:02 GMT
If you want to start a conversation, start by sharing what you have done with your estate planning. Where are your Wills, who is the Executor, who is the named guardian of your DD, if you were unable to make medical decisions what are your wishes and who would be making them?
No one needs to know the specifics of your Wills and assets, but just as you want to know where to find her information, it is a great idea to share with her where yours can be found.
ETA My dad is super organized and each of us kids has been shown where the master file is should anything happen to him. One sister is the Executor, currently has a health POA for my mom (dad didn't want it) and will have it for health & finacial decisions if my dad is not able to make them. We all know what his wishes are.
I'm not sure if MIL actually has written a Will. DH arranged for her to meet with an estate lawyer last year that speaks her native language so that is who we would start with if something happened to her.
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Post by eebud on Jun 3, 2015 23:17:10 GMT
If you want to start a conversation, start by sharing what you have done with your estate planning. Where are your Wills, who is the Executor, who is the named guardian of your DD, if you were unable to make medical decisions what are your wishes and who would be making them? No one needs to know the specifics of your Wills and assets, but just as you want to know where to find her information, it is a great idea to share with her where yours can be found. ETA My dad is super organized and each of us kids has been shown where the master file is should anything happen to him. One sister is the Executor, currently has a health POA for my mom (dad didn't want it) and will have it for health & finacial decisions if my dad is not able to make them. We all know what his wishes are. I'm not sure if MIL actually has written a Will. DH arranged for her to meet with an estate lawyer last year that speaks her native language so that is who we would start with if something happened to her. This is what I would do too. I would come at it from the standpoint of what you and your DH is doing to make sure that your wishes are carried out in the event of something happening. I would not ask her specifically what is in the will. That is her business. But, if you DH is her executor, he needs to be told that and he needs to be told where to find the original will. Thankfully, my mother is VERY organized. She has a binder where she keeps all of her important information including names and phone numbers of who to call, the name and phone number of her church and the priest's name, the name and phone number of the funeral home for cremation, the name and phone number of how to contact Arlington Cemetery to arrange burial with her husband who is already buried there, etc. She took me to her bank to get my name on her safe deposit box and I have a key. She added my name to her bank accounts so that I can access them if I ever need to. On and on. I really appreciate how prepared she is.
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Post by janeinbama on Jun 3, 2015 23:17:45 GMT
It would be helpful to know what type of funeral she wants, where and whether it is prepaid. Also any special requests she wants for her funeral as in pall bearers, music etc. At a time of grief it is nice to know you are following their wishes. My inlaws wanted their sons to know their wishes, but all 3 were uncomfortable talking about it. My father had died suddenly at 53 and my brother at 39 so I was more than willing to write down their wishes and have honored my MIL's 4 years ago. FIL is still going strong at 93.
My DH and his brothers did not ask what her requests were until the end was close. Denial is pretty powerful.
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Jun 4, 2015 12:43:00 GMT
You can always open the conversation by saying that you recently got your affairs in order, and what a relief to have that done. Or, you can mention the (potentially fictional if need be) experience of a friend's family when things were NOT well arranged. You can start by asking about medical/end of life preferences to be sure you know what their wishes are (even if there's no substantial estate, it's important to know!). I have to agree that it's none of your business how the wills are written, though if you suspect something unpleasant, you're free to mention it (in the context of "a friend" as well if you want). For example, my mom & her brother were left several pieces of farm property *together* when it would have been much better if each had been given individual pieces. I remind my mom what a pain that business is regularly in hopes she won't do the same to me and my brother! I believe I'm listed as executor for my parents, and I suspect it's a rather boring "half to each" sort of will, but I don't know for sure, and I wouldn't ask.
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Post by pb on Jun 4, 2015 15:30:09 GMT
My parents divorced when I was 20 and I had little to no contact with my father for years. My brother kept up a relationship. My father refused to do a will and only did a medical directive because I made him. He had two forms of cancer and when I was there to help take him to radiation I insisted and his doctor agreed. Then he waffled about the witness part so I said I would ask someone in the resturant we were at. He didn't believe me and some nice stranger at the next table happily signed.
When he passes my brother did all the paperwork. There wasn't much left and my father lied about some of it but it worked out.
My mom's situation is much more complicated but I know where the papers are and the gist of what is said. I am executor and have the medical decision power as well. My brother is fine with all that. He doesn't handle complications well.
We have a binder the kids know about as well as my mom.
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