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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 2:07:42 GMT
Kate: The thing is its not a big deal of breaking the silence. I just go over there and "pretend" nothings wrong and talk to her. Heck the first 24 hrs i dont even know i pissed her off. Once 24 hrs has passed and she hasn't came over i have to think back of what i could of said that offended her. I do like having a sister because tgat is all we had growing up. We lived out incthe country and our only friend we had was each other till we were about 13. For me it's about taking care of my sis. Our mom has went nuts so she has no one but me to turn to for advice. Knowing this it is hard for me. Part of me,wants to say screw it i'll let you throw your fit till your ready to suck it up. But the other part of me worries that she will be to stubbern to suck it up and it will go on for months.
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Post by txdancermom on Jun 20, 2015 2:13:53 GMT
I don't see any issue with what you did, your house your rules - and if your niece was about to pick up something she shouldn't, then she has to be told No....
I would not go over and apologize - I am sure your niece is asking to come see her cousin, and sooner or later she will come over (or when she needs a sitter). at that time, make it clear that if niece does something in your house that she shouldn't you will tell her no and discipline her, and if she cries - she cries....that is what 3 year olds do.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 20, 2015 2:49:35 GMT
Hop2.. that is exactly the issue. All this over something so so stupid yet i want to stand my ground on the principle but is it worth losing a relationship over? Sometimes i hate being the freaking adult! 9 months ago I would have said stand your ground and I wouldn't have had a second thought. But life has taught me somethings in the last year. I am so sorry your sister is treating you this way. I hope you can work it out. You can try instead of an apology you have a heart to heart conversation about how her silent treatment makes you feel, especially over trivial things. Try the supposedly less aggressive 'I' statements instead of 'you' statements. As in when x happens I feel abc.
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Post by kate on Jun 20, 2015 3:02:16 GMT
Oh, gosh, that really puts the pressure on - all you have is each other, and no mom to help out.
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Post by salem on Jun 20, 2015 3:07:49 GMT
Tell your Sister to grow up. She's old enough to have a child so she's way too old to act like one.
I too feel that if she's going to leave her child in your care, and really, how convenient for her, then she needs to reinforce with her daughter that when Auntie says No, that she needs to listen. End of story. That kid will be as big of a brat as her Mother if this kind of behavior goes on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 3:32:27 GMT
Ok you said "buzz" when she tried to touch something on your night stand. Buzz/bzzz or NO all mean the same thing. If she continued to do it (because I have seen some kids who are real little sh!ts) I would have slapped her hand. Don't touch my stuff. That means ever. If the kid went running to mummy because auntie said buzz or slapped her hand, I would not buy into her grudge and will ignore her until she gets over it. This is not your circus. This is a discipline problem with your niece and her mother.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jun 20, 2015 6:23:13 GMT
Do nothing. The ball is in her court. If she does see sense, it might be worth having the 'my house, my rules, and don't send your kid over unless I invite her' conversation.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jun 20, 2015 6:46:15 GMT
Hop2.. that is exactly the issue. All this over something so so stupid yet i want to stand my ground on the principle but is it worth losing a relationship over? Sometimes i hate being the freaking adult! I would be very shocked if you actually lost your whole relationship with your sister over something so inconsequential. Don't you think she'll eventually come around? Someone once told me that the person who tries to make the reparation is the person with the stronger ego. With that in mind, I should tell you to reach out to her and try to settle things. But I won't because I'm stubborn and she's been given enough free passes. I'd let her stew in her own juices for a while.
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Post by grinningcat on Jun 20, 2015 13:15:39 GMT
Do nothing. The ball is in her court. DO NOT SEEK HER OUT. All you're doing is giving her permission to treat you like a servant. Not a sister. A servant who will do her bidding and still come back for more even though she's treated you like poo on her shoe. To be blunt, she's not acting like a sister, she's acting like a little petulant brat servant.
If you see her outside, be nice and cordial but don't go out of your way.
She needs you far more than you need her. And so what if there's no mom in the picture? It's her fault she's treating people like crap and losing people to talk to.
When she comes back. Lay some ground rules... I guarantee she'll come over when she needs to go to her next "no kids" appointment. Then you have the upper hand. Lose it.
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 20, 2015 13:28:26 GMT
I got confused reading the OP to be honest. What is a "bap". Why do you have to use a buzzing sound to stop her from doing something? does she have communication issues that prevent you from say "don't touch that". I admit I would be annoyed if people used weird noises to correct my kids instead of talking to them. I find it more harsh and animal like. I don't have a problem with them being corrected but use words. it wouldn't be enough for me to give someone the silent treatment.
Relationships are always give and take and to some degree unbalanced. It ebbs and flows and one will always seem to give more then the other at different times. It depends on how important your sister is to you and your relationship with your young niece.
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Post by gloryjoy on Jun 20, 2015 13:38:59 GMT
I got confused reading the OP to be honest. What is a "bap". Why do you have to use a buzzing sound to stop her from doing something? does she have communication issues that prevent you from say "don't touch that". I was a bit confused too. I would just say "no". I work in daycare, plenty of three year old's cry when they get told no. If it was my sister I would act as if nothing happened, I wouldn't apologize, make peace, be the bigger person. There's nothing to apologize for. Like everyone else has already said, she does it because she can.
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Post by librarylady on Jun 20, 2015 13:47:08 GMT
Your sister treats you bad and you allow it. Only you can change that. All the validation in the world won't change that. You have to decide if you are going to keep taking it. You'll also have to decide if you are comfortable teaching your daughter that this is acceptable behavior. Remember, if you continue to "dance to your sister's tune" you are teaching the sister that her behavior is just fine. You are training the sister to have a fit to get what she wants. Very painful to change your behavior and therefore your sister's behavior. Pregnant or not, it is time to break the cycle.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 20, 2015 14:02:14 GMT
I'm sorry OP. This must be hard, especially living so close. I'm married to the sibling who finally decided NOT to apologize for things he didn't do. It's practically ended their relationship.
DH is in the right, but I'm not sure it's worth it in the long run. He feels the loss.
There are some people so petty and used to getting their way ( like DH sibling) they arent capable of seeing anything else. Jerk.
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Post by maryland on Jun 20, 2015 14:43:53 GMT
I would not apologize, you are not wrong. Don't let her walk all over you. I would just act like nothing is wrong. She is the one that should feel guilty, not you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 15:12:40 GMT
I've said it before, the silent treatment is a form of emotional abuse. I don't tolerate it in my life anymore. I think you need to have an open conversation about her preference on how you correct her child and any other issues that are causing each of you to be upset.
Stand your ground sounds good in theory but it's a cycle that could go on for years. And so what if it's you that tries to change that.
As far as the buzzing and bapping - I find that kind of odd and if you need to correct her child or any child, just use your words.
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Post by theroadlesstraveledp on Jun 20, 2015 15:48:12 GMT
Do nothing. The ball is in her court. DO NOT SEEK HER OUT. All you're doing is giving her permission to treat you like a servant. Not a sister. A servant who will do her bidding and still come back for more even though she's treated you like poo on her shoe. To be blunt, she's not acting like a sister, she's acting like a little petulant brat servant. If you see her outside, be nice and cordial but don't go out of your way. She needs you far more than you need her. And so what if there's no mom in the picture? It's her fault she's treating people like crap and losing people to talk to. When she comes back. Lay some ground rules... I guarantee she'll come over when she needs to go to her next "no kids" appointment. Then you have the upper hand. Lose it. I have also learned in the last year due to a family member having a major illness (that was essentially terminal) that it doesn't give other family members a free pass to treat you like crap either. I completly agree that she is treating you like a servant and the longer she does the worse things will get. It could be possible that she never tells her niece "no." I have seen the consequences to the child, as an adult and they suck. In other words I now have a a maladjusted adult as a step-cousin who is seriously messed up. I also agree that your sister needs some tough love here. I'd lay out what your concerns, expectations, and boundaries are.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 20, 2015 16:19:38 GMT
Kate: The thing is its not a big deal of breaking the silence. I just go over there and "pretend" nothings wrong and talk to her. Heck the first 24 hrs i dont even know i pissed her off. Once 24 hrs has passed and she hasn't came over i have to think back of what i could of said that offended her. I do like having a sister because tgat is all we had growing up. We lived out incthe country and our only friend we had was each other till we were about 13. For me it's about taking care of my sis. Our mom has went nuts so she has no one but me to turn to for advice. Knowing this it is hard for me. Part of me,wants to say screw it i'll let you throw your fit till your ready to suck it up. But the other part of me worries that she will be to stubbern to suck it up and it will go on for months. How long until her next OB appointment? In the past, why didnn't you go over and say, WTH is your deal instead of sweeping it under the rug? I would in no way make my kid stay inside. 1st, it isn't her problem. 2nd, maybe your sister feels ackward coming back over and her playing outside is her way of drawing her out. When you do decide to talk to her, because what I see in your post is that you really want to, don't rug sweep. Ask her what her problem is. Why the silent treatment?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 16:21:58 GMT
I guess I don't even understand why you feel like you need to apologize. Why can't you just go over/call and say "DD wants to play with niece, can she come over?".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 17:50:02 GMT
Thanks everyone for your input. Everyone is right that I enable her to treat me the way she does. Since she has been here I have bent over backwards to make her happy because I wanted to be the good big sis. I have allowed her to say some pretty offensive "jokes" without calling her on it assuming she didn't really mean it. ( I was having issues with my 14 yr old and boys(emailing) My husband had found a condom by the street and my sister "jokingly" said was it by my daughters window? Pissed me off but I didnt say anything.
I got to just realize it is not my job to make sure she is happy. Sorry if ant mispellingdtyping on phone.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jun 20, 2015 18:00:55 GMT
I think you need to set boundaries. Your sister is coming to your home to watch tv shows she dvr'd at your place, you are cleaning, and she isn't watching her child. No thanks, I am normally someone shoe doesn't mind someone popping over unannounced but she is wearing out the welcome mat.
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Post by mlynn on Jun 20, 2015 20:04:43 GMT
why not simply tell her that it seems she needs space right now so you will give her that space and she can let you know when it is time to be closer again. Then when you are on speaking terms again, find an opportunity to express how much you are looking forward to dd starting school and having all the kids in school. You are looking forward to finding out what it is like to not have a kid at home.
As for DD playing with her cousin...why cant she simply knock on the door and ask if cousin can come out and play?
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Post by birukitty on Jun 20, 2015 21:50:12 GMT
OP I think I know somewhat how you are feeling because I have a sister a bit like yours. I'm the oldest too, and this sister is 18 months younger than me. You would expect we'd be really close but we've been opposites since her birth. There are 4 children in my family and she's the second child, so not the youngest. But she is a master manipulator and uses people to get what she can out of them. When we were young it wasn't long before she was taller and stronger than me (I'm a petite girl, she's very tall) so she'd sit on me and beat me up. It wasn't just me though-when our youngest sister was learning how to walk she'd push her down for fun. Now that we're older she'd manipulate me by being super nice in letters (she travelled around a lot) and then she'd get me to do things for her. It wasn't until my father and I were helping her to move into her house (we were doing all of the manual labour while she stood around telling us which room to put the boxes in, that I realized what was really happening. All of a sudden I dropped the box I was holding onto the floor and said, "Fuck this!" Told her where she could stuff said box, and left immediately. Did our relationship end? No, it's better. Because now she respects me. She knows I won't take any of her crap. I do really feel horrible for my father though. He won't say "No" to her and she uses him all of the time. He's in the IT field and any computer work she needs (she runs her own business) she calls him at the last minute and tells him she needs him to do X and he does it. He's also still working full time. She refuses to hire someone when she can get our father to do it for free. All of this (and I'm so sorry it was so long) was to encourage you that it's time to put your foot down. You can do it. I promise you that you will feel a thousand times better once you do. It will feel as if a ton of weight has been lifted off your shoulders and your self respect will soar. Her silent treatment and terrible put downs disguised as jokes are abusive. Her assuming you'll be there to babysit whenever she wants is just like my sister (get what she can out of you). Don't worry about losing your relationship. Like another Pea said-you don't have a healthy relationship right now. You have to take a stand for yourself so you can cut that poison out. I would advise you to think about it and then go over there (without notice first), and tell her, "I've had enough of your shit. You're manipulative and it's always about what you want and what you can get out of me. If you don't get your way you pull this silent treatment. I am NOT going to babysit your kids anymore (if that's what you decide). I have a life. I make my own choices. If you want cable, then pay for it. No more coming over to my house to watch it for free." Well that's what I would say-change it to whatever your style would be I wish you luck and strength ahead, and please feel free to pmail me if you like. Debbie in MD.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 22:47:42 GMT
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 19, 2015 22:50:57 GMT
Why would you go over there now? and if she is due in 4 wks? are you going to watch her baby? I guess it sounds like she has more to lose then you? I wouldn't worry about it. And her DH is just deflecting. If she wasn't mad, she would be over at your house and talking to you.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jul 19, 2015 23:04:55 GMT
Why would her DH make a point to say she isn't mad she is just waiting to see how long until you come over.
OK, I have a couple thoughts on this. Have you gone over to her house in the past, or does she always have to come to yours? I mean if she always has to be the one to "travel", even though it is only next door, that would start to get to me. If this is the case, a good heart to heart over the fence might be what is needed.
Another thought, if she is 4 weeks from delivery and has shows recorded on your DVR, I would expect her to be a little bit grateful that you are willing to watch her children and let her record shows. Not sitting in her house waiting to see when you will cave and come back to her. If this is the case, I would be having some fun times with my DD and enjoying that time. If she is 5 years old she could be starting school in just a few weeks and that time together is greatly reduced.
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Post by suzastampin on Jul 19, 2015 23:07:28 GMT
Seeing your update, it sounds like she sent the hubby over to lure you into going over and apologizing again. Personally, since this seems to be her MO, I wouldn't be doing any apologizing. She's just wanting you to feel like you have to, especially since she expects you to baby sit when she has the new one. It's time for sister to apologize to you. And, there's no way I'd be watching her daughter if you can't discipline her in your own home. It's not like you hauled off and gave her a spanking. You just told her no.
This time, I think I would out wait her. In the meantime, have some play dates for your daughter with some other children.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Jul 19, 2015 23:12:48 GMT
Seeing your update, it sounds like she sent the hubby over to lure you into going over and apologizing again. Personally, since this seems to be her MO, I wouldn't be doing any apologizing. She's just wanting you to feel like you have to, especially since she expects you to baby sit when she has the new one. It's time for sister to apologize to you. And, there's no way I'd be watching her daughter if you can't discipline her in your own home. It's not like you hauled off and gave her a spanking. You just told her no. This time, I think I would out wait her. In the meantime, have some play dates for your daughter with some other children. Now I don't have to type it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 23:14:32 GMT
Smalltimegirlie, It is mostly her coming to my house. I rarely go to hers. The normal routine was her coming over when my bil left for work and stay until her daughter was ready for nap time. When here she watched her dvred shows, helps herself to what is in fridge and pantry. I guess after having her live with me for 8 months before they bought the house last yr and her coming over every morning i wasnt intersted in spending more time with her. Gosh that sounds bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 23:21:13 GMT
Smalltimegirlie, It is mostly her coming to my house. I rarely go to hers. The normal routine was her coming over when my bil left for work and stay until her daughter was ready for nap time. When here she watched her dvred shows, helps herself to what is in fridge and pantry. I guess after having her live with me for 8 months before they bought the house last yr and her coming over every morning i wasnt intersted in spending more time with her. Gosh that sounds bad. Not sure why you think it sounds bad. She sounds like a "user" She uses you for cable, free food and free entertainment for her child (and probably a fair amount of baby sitting I'm guessing) NO reason for you to apologize. And I totally understand not being interested in spending more time with her.... I'd go batty if my sister visited morning from breakfast to naptime!! I would look forward to weeks of her giving me the silent treatment. You were fine telling your niece "no" Your house, your rules and your right to enforce those rules on a child who is spending half her day there!
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Post by yoursweetwhimsy on Jul 19, 2015 23:22:41 GMT
It doesn't sound bad at all. There is nothing wrong with needing some time to yourself. She is manipulating you and you need to stop it now or it will happen until you do.
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