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Post by BuckeyeSandy on Jul 14, 2014 5:10:04 GMT
DH did not send me the warning he got on Friday about several places adding third party "add-ons" that are adware/spyware and some-what malicious because they are difficult to remove. Be careful.
I got "bit" tonight with something call "Safe Finder" supposed to be a "secure" search engine, had "Yahoo" labels on it... it's a "conduit" search tool bar and redirects your searches, and overwrites your browser settings. Oh, And it is nearly impossible to remove using regular methods. You may have to find some "bot" removal software.
Just be careful.
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Post by AmyS on Jul 14, 2014 5:14:48 GMT
You could try a System Restore and choose a date prior to installation of the troublesome program.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 14, 2014 5:15:40 GMT
Viruses and spyware piss me off. I wish there was a way to track and prosecute the people who make them.
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Post by gale w on Jul 14, 2014 7:35:44 GMT
cnet does this-adds crapware to what looks like legit downloads.
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Post by kluski on Jul 14, 2014 9:12:29 GMT
I feel like I had a suspicious update on my laptop last week as well I just didn't like the way it loaded. Where are these updates from? I don't choose updates, my system does it automatically. Do they come in with the updates from hp/Microsoft?
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Post by BarbaraUK on Jul 14, 2014 9:27:55 GMT
I feel like I had a suspicious update on my laptop last week as well I just didn't like the way it loaded. Where are these updates from? I don't choose updates, my system does it automatically. Do they come in with the updates from hp/Microsoft? Your Operating System will automatically advise you that updates are available and so will legitimate software you have installed. There is an option to click and check what the update is for and refuse it - though in the case of Microsoft it probably isn't a good thing to refuse it. Microsoft check that you have a genuine copy of their OP before they will even make the update available. So, no, these things don't come in with updates from HP/Microsoft etc. The things that the OP is talking about usually come with something you have downloaded from the web.
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Post by padresfan619 on Jul 14, 2014 11:28:16 GMT
You should never download and install search toolbars or any other kind of toolbar for your browser.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 11:32:02 GMT
You should never download and install search toolbars or any other kind of toolbar for your browser. It makes me #$$@#$# when something is attached to something else. I wanted to download Google Earth and it wanted to install Chrome. I don't happen to like Chrome and I had to figure out how to not install it. I hate it when companies try to install their tool bars on yours. It hasn't happened with my Mac but all the time with my other laptop.
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Post by BuckeyeSandy on Jul 14, 2014 12:00:25 GMT
I got my infection from a Shockwave (Adobe)infected update NOT FROM ME GOING TO THE ADOBE SITE, I "clicked" on what "appeared to be" trusted site.
I went to a couple trusted sites to research "SafeFinder" and found a recommended product. It worked, it cleared out a lot of advertisement "crap" and "spybots" nothing was serious and I was finally able to completely uninstall "SafeFinder" completely!!!
I used "SpyHunter" (v.4) it is paid software, not a freebie, and had high rankings.
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Post by paulaj3266 on Jul 14, 2014 13:27:06 GMT
When I d/l something to my computer, I go into the control panel, then install/uninstall programs, and uninstall anything that has that date on it. The companies install lots of nonsense on your computer while you are installing a valid program. It will definitely slow down your program and give you lots of annoying pop ups.
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Post by BarbaraUK on Jul 14, 2014 14:28:52 GMT
When I d/l something to my computer, I go into the control panel, then install/uninstall programs, and uninstall anything that has that date on it. The companies install lots of nonsense on your computer while you are installing a valid program. It will definitely slow down your program and give you lots of annoying pop ups. Problem is that malware often puts something into the Register and other places in the system and it can be mega hard to track down every little bit without excellent software to help hunt for it if you are not top notch techy!! And sometimes even then it takes some finding sometimes.....these people who write the malware know exactly how computers work.
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Post by shevy on Jul 14, 2014 15:00:52 GMT
When I d/l something to my computer, I go into the control panel, then install/uninstall programs, and uninstall anything that has that date on it. The companies install lots of nonsense on your computer while you are installing a valid program. It will definitely slow down your program and give you lots of annoying pop ups. Problem is that malware often puts something into the Register and other places in the system and it can be mega hard to track down every little bit without excellent software to help hunt for it if you are not top notch techy!! And sometimes even then it takes some finding sometimes.....these people who write the malware know exactly how computers work. This. My DH is an IT guy and he spends so much time trying to get this malware out of systems. Often it's hours of time. And when he gets the PC back to the owner, they visit the same site and get it right back on and they think that DH didn't do his job. Frustrating.
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Post by iowgirl on Jul 14, 2014 15:16:37 GMT
Where did you find the "high rankings"? Every reputable site does NOT give this a good rating. Everything I found praising it was actually an add or a site that linked to sell it (thus getting a kickback). PC Magazine - SpyHunter Review - less than rosyOne of the reviews mentioned their credit card getting extra charges in the months following for "updates" - RED FLAG! There are some fantastic free versions of malware removal tools out there. Check into CCleaner and MalwareBytes. Also, if you use any scanner and it finds a ton of hits, and then offers you a great deal on the the removal software - STAY AWAY! It is a scam.
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Post by Kelly_MR on Jul 14, 2014 16:10:12 GMT
You should never download and install search toolbars or any other kind of toolbar for your browser. Exactly. If I didn't buy it or go looking for it, it doesn't get installed!
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Post by kluski on Jul 20, 2014 16:48:11 GMT
I feel like I had a suspicious update on my laptop last week as well I just didn't like the way it loaded. Where are these updates from? I don't choose updates, my system does it automatically. Do they come in with the updates from hp/Microsoft? Your Operating System will automatically advise you that updates are available and so will legitimate software you have installed. There is an option to click and check what the update is for and refuse it - though in the case of Microsoft it probably isn't a good thing to refuse it. Microsoft check that you have a genuine copy of their OP before they will even make the update available. So, no, these things don't come in with updates from HP/Microsoft etc. The things that the OP is talking about usually come with something you have downloaded from the web. Thank you for that reply! That is a relief to know!
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Post by hennybutton on Jul 20, 2014 16:56:31 GMT
I'm really furious about Java. I installed a Java update and it did all kinds of crap to my browsers (IE and Chrome-haven't checked Firefox). It gave me a new homepage, changed my search engine to Bing, and downloaded a bunch of junk software. It took me ages to fix it. Adobe is really bad too. It'll download Chrome and make it your default browser. This is exceptionally sucky in a business environment where they don't want you downloading unapproved browsers. You need Adobe Reader for PDFs and Flash is used on a ton of websites. If you use Chrome already, you'd probably never notice that Adobe does this.
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Post by hennybutton on Jul 20, 2014 16:58:09 GMT
Oh, and the bloatware in the Java updates is particularly troubling because a lot of banking websites use Java in their online banking platforms.
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Post by perumbula on Jul 20, 2014 16:58:37 GMT
Ugh, I hate the third party tool bars. They slow everything down. We use Spybot for spyware removal at our house.
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Jul 20, 2014 23:35:46 GMT
I'm really furious about Java. I installed a Java update and it did all kinds of crap to my browsers (IE and Chrome-haven't checked Firefox). It gave me a new homepage, changed my search engine to Bing, and downloaded a bunch of junk software. It took me ages to fix it. Adobe is really bad too. It'll download Chrome and make it your default browser. This is exceptionally sucky in a business environment where they don't want you downloading unapproved browsers. You need Adobe Reader for PDFs and Flash is used on a ton of websites. If you use Chrome already, you'd probably never notice that Adobe does this. Java started doing that a while back. I had to update today and sure enough I had to UNCHECK whatever crap search engine it wanted to give me. Microsoft once in awhile has BING in their updates. I check every single thing that Microsoft wants me to update now.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jul 21, 2014 0:29:09 GMT
I update JAVA because my work includes downloading from banks and investment advisor sites that require it. I take my time and look at every screen checked boxes to make sure that an unwanted add-on doesn't come with the update.
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Post by hennybutton on Jul 21, 2014 4:05:33 GMT
I'm really furious about Java. I installed a Java update and it did all kinds of crap to my browsers (IE and Chrome-haven't checked Firefox). It gave me a new homepage, changed my search engine to Bing, and downloaded a bunch of junk software. It took me ages to fix it. Adobe is really bad too. It'll download Chrome and make it your default browser. This is exceptionally sucky in a business environment where they don't want you downloading unapproved browsers. You need Adobe Reader for PDFs and Flash is used on a ton of websites. If you use Chrome already, you'd probably never notice that Adobe does this. Java started doing that a while back. I had to update today and sure enough I had to UNCHECK whatever crap search engine it wanted to give me. Microsoft once in awhile has BING in their updates. I check every single thing that Microsoft wants me to update now. I selected the custom install option. To find the extra crap they wanted to install, I had to scroll through the EULA because the crapware was at the bottom of it. I still ended up with crapware and I don't know where it came from. I also keep getting Windows security messages asking me if I want to let Java make changes on my computer. Um, no. And, I keep getting notifications that there's a Java update available. I've gone into the settings and told it not to notify me of updates at least 10 times in the last two days. Every time I log off of the computer and log back in, it's there again. I've gone into the control panel to uninstall Java and I get a Windows security notification asking me if I want to let Java make changes to my computer. I shouldn't have to do that to uninstall software. I'm beyond frustrated.
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Post by peasful1 on Jul 21, 2014 8:44:00 GMT
Man, I used to waste hours solving these kinds of issues on my computer. They can seriously slow your entire system down. They get buried so deeply into your registry, and hidden so well, unless you know the exact file you need to delete, it can be impossible to eliminate without a complete wipe and re-install of the OS.
I don't miss these problems. I hope you can solve this relatively easily.
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Jul 30, 2014 16:37:19 GMT
Java started doing that a while back. I had to update today and sure enough I had to UNCHECK whatever crap search engine it wanted to give me. Microsoft once in awhile has BING in their updates. I check every single thing that Microsoft wants me to update now. I selected the custom install option. To find the extra crap they wanted to install, I had to scroll through the EULA because the crapware was at the bottom of it. I still ended up with crapware and I don't know where it came from. I also keep getting Windows security messages asking me if I want to let Java make changes on my computer. Um, no. And, I keep getting notifications that there's a Java update available. I've gone into the settings and told it not to notify me of updates at least 10 times in the last two days. Every time I log off of the computer and log back in, it's there again. I've gone into the control panel to uninstall Java and I get a Windows security notification asking me if I want to let Java make changes to my computer. I shouldn't have to do that to uninstall software. I'm beyond frustrated. Every program with the newer OS systems now have that stupid permission box popping up. It's suppose to be a good thing for us so that we know stuff is being put our computers. However in the more recent years I have noticed more and more programs are adding crap to what they need to download. And like you said above some of that crap is well hidden. My Facebook App on my iPod yesterday made me download messenger. I HATE it. I liked it when a little bubble popped up that I had a private message and I could just tap on it to see the message or swipe it down to close it. Now when I have a private message it takes me to messenger which I thought wasn't so bad UNTIL I keep getting pop up for every fraking single converstation I was viewing to allow the people I am sending messages to know what my location is. I don't like using the find location because it sucks up my iPod's battery too much. So I accidentally hit yes on the 3rd pop up. And then another pop up tells me how I can turn that off. How about how to click NEVER so I don't get the stupid pop up 3 times in a row to begin with! Sometimes technology wants to make me scream. Can't wait until I get pop up ads in messenger! (I'm just guessing on that one.)
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