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Post by oldcrow on Jun 27, 2015 18:38:54 GMT
Spellbinders - stores are dropping them left, right, and centre. The second of their co-founders has dropped the top position. First co-founder already gone. Outside investment people looking after things.
Cheery Lynn and Tattered Lace - TL is now doing the Crossover and the fabric/quilting stuff that CL started. And CL has yet another new die cut machine coming out in Aug stating they want to concentrate on paper arts.
Fun Stampers Journey is a new direct sales company co-owned by Garay and his wife and he was an important figure at Spellbinders. If you read their 'rules' for their sales people it states that you cannot sell for similar companies (yeah, they all have that rule) but it specifies to include die companies.
Anyone know what's going on?
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 27, 2015 19:54:57 GMT
You know way more than I do!
I'm always three steps behind when it comes to scrapping supplies. I just bought my first ever embossing folders from the clearance section at Michaels, Lifestyles (used to be Quickqutz, I think), a two pack of folders for $3.99
Last week, or two weeks ago, I did buy six sets of Spellbinders dies in the clearance aisle at M's. I thought maybe they are just getting new packaging, but maybe there are other reasons for the clearancing?
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Post by scrapaddie on Jun 27, 2015 20:20:48 GMT
No idea what is happening, but I did notice some new dies at Joanne fabrics. I am a die addict!
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Post by oldcrow on Jun 27, 2015 20:23:14 GMT
No idea what is happening, but I did notice some new dies at Joanne fabrics. I am a die addict! Do you mean new Spellbinder dies or a new die company?
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Post by FurryP on Jun 27, 2015 20:33:06 GMT
Hmmm... I didn't know all that. Maybe there is a shake up because now they have so much more competition? I mean e-v-e-r-y stamp company has dies for their stamps now, and then some. Sometimes so many options for the same shape. Dotted rectangles, stitched rectangles, lined rectangles, etc.
There are some companies I have come across, that I have never heard of, and I find out they've been open more than 1-2 years.
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Post by penny on Jun 27, 2015 21:05:33 GMT
Hmmm... I didn't know all that. Maybe there is a shake up because now they have so much more competition? I mean e-v-e-r-y stamp company has dies for their stamps now, and then some. Sometimes so many options for the same shape. Dotted rectangles, stitched rectangles, lined rectangles, etc. There are some companies I have come across, that I have never heard of, and I find out they've been open more than 1-2 years. I wonder if that is it... I never liked die cutting until they started pairing them with stamps... For me/my style, a die cut shape of paper looked unfinished, even if it was inked or distressed etc... I bought my first die cutting machine just over a year ago and with the exception of letter/word/phrase dies, they all pair up with stamps or make 3-D items... Oh, and I have a tag and tab shape... If I wanted any other shape of use my Silhouette - much more versatile and pays itself off quickly (especially if like me you have to order any die you want online and pay shipping and duty)...
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 27, 2015 21:09:52 GMT
My LSS lady knows the scuttlebutt on almost everything. She was up in arms when Momenta bought LYB. I shall ask her next time I go.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jun 28, 2015 3:29:20 GMT
Spellbinders - stores are dropping them left, right, and centre. The second of their co-founders has dropped the top position. First co-founder already gone. Outside investment people looking after things. Cheery Lynn and Tattered Lace - TL is now doing the Crossover and the fabric/quilting stuff that CL started. And CL has yet another new die cut machine coming out in Aug stating they want to concentrate on paper arts. Fun Stampers Journey is a new direct sales company co-owned by Garay and his wife and he was an important figure at Spellbinders. If you read their 'rules' for their sales people it states that you cannot sell for similar companies (yeah, they all have that rule) but it specifies to include die companies. Anyone know what's going on? Joann just redid its spellbinders section-- everything has new packaging, which is probably why much of the old stock was clearanced. I also noticed that the retail on things like the nestabilities now is $19.99. They're probably just restructuring to be more competitive. As for leadership, the lady who left is (I think) the wife of the guy who stepped down previously. He stepped down after that disastrous patent infringement suit. I don't think it's odd that his spouse is now taking less of a day-to-day role in the company if he isn't anymore. I've never even heard of Tattered Lace. And it doesn't strike me as odd for FSJ to have a non-compete clause that includes other die companies. Without seeing the actual language, it might be just to make sure the coaches know this means more than just SU, Amuse, and CTMH. Or it means that Richard has some intellectual property interest in the dies and the manufacturing process, and doesn't want that info to get to competing die manufacturers via coaches. Or it's just standard type language that his lawyer suggested be put in the contracts.
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Post by scrapnnana on Jun 28, 2015 4:23:04 GMT
At the Scrapbook Expo, there were plenty of Spellbinder dies, and they were not being dumped or sold for cheap prices. I spent more than I intended on some of their new releases.
I am not familiar with the other die companies you mentioned.
Anyway, I'm not too worried. I don't think Spellbinders are in any danger of going out of business any time soon.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Jun 28, 2015 6:27:01 GMT
Thanks for the info, all. I love the ease of using my dies and live in fear that the dominance of the Silhouette will eventually cause the die co's to fail.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 28, 2015 11:52:48 GMT
Thanks for the info, all. I love the ease of using my dies and live in fear that the dominance of the Silhouette will eventually cause the die co's to fail. Me too. I was late to the die world because I used my Cricut / SCAL. Now that I've discovered how easy they are I'd hate to see them disappear!
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Post by scrapnnana on Jun 28, 2015 13:00:05 GMT
I don't think that dies will disappear, despite the electronic cutters. I have both a manual and an electronic cutter. Sometimes the manual dies are just faster and easier. The Spellbinder dies give a different look, with the embossing added in. Can electronic cutters emboss, too? Yes, but the impression is not as deep because of how an electronic machine embosses, and I prefer the look of the deeper embossing you get with folders or Spellbinder dies.
A lot of people got rid of their manual dies when they bought an electronic cutter. I hung on to mine, because it is easier to take dies and my Cuttlebug to a crop than lug my machine. I scrapbook away from home most of the time. If I am at home for scrapping and have a power loss during the day, I can keep on scrapping with manual dies. I love my Cameo, but lately I have been having more fun with my Heartfelt Creations stamps and Spellbinder dies. My Cameo has not been used as much as they have been (at least lately).
There is room for both cutting systems. Personally, I think that the Spellbinder dies are sturdier and give me better results than their competitors. I have some from different companies, but I like the Spellbinder dies the best.
I am not worried that the manual dies are going to disappear.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 14:44:33 GMT
Thanks for the info, all. I love the ease of using my dies and live in fear that the dominance of the Silhouette will eventually cause the die co's to fail. Me too. I was late to the die world because I used my Cricut / SCAL. Now that I've discovered how easy they are I'd hate to see them disappear! I'm kind of the same way! Started with Sizzix (still have a lot of those), and then went with Cricut/SCAL. I like Cricut cartridges for doing projects like a recipe album and SCAL for that one odd die SVG cut and alpha fonts. I've found I like punches and manual dies for basic shapes or basic shapes that have more intricate cuts to them. I hadn't bought Spellbinder dies until about a month ago.
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Post by artisticscrapper on Jun 28, 2015 20:56:38 GMT
I love my dies. I bought a Cricut years ago but it's so much easier to just grab a die. I still have some old QK alphas as well as the newer Sizzix, Spellbinder, and Lawn Fawn. My J's has very few dies but it seems to be because they're slowly downsizing their papercrafting section. I hardly go there any more.
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Post by FurryP on Jun 29, 2015 0:26:14 GMT
I love my dies. I bought a Cricut years ago but it's so much easier to just grab a die. I still have some old QK alphas as well as the newer Sizzix, Spellbinder, and Lawn Fawn. My J's has very few dies but it seems to be because they're slowly downsizing their papercrafting section. I hardly go there any more. Me neither. If they changed their selection more often, we could help keep the paper section in business. But since they don't, I rarely go. I get much better stuff at J's online. If they didn't have 1 3/4 rows of not so cute individual papers, and 1 whole row of DCWV paper pads, they would have more room for better stuff.
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Post by GiantsFan on Jun 29, 2015 2:25:08 GMT
I hope dies aren't on the outs. I started my paper crafting hobby with Stampin Up! and fussy cutting (I was never good at fussy cutting!). Then when I started SBing, I loaded up on QuicKutz alphas and dies. Then I got a Cricut, then came a Cuttlebug for embossing. Now I'm back into card making and I'm buying dies and stamps that have matching dies.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 6:20:23 GMT
I started off backwards. I went with the Cricut, Dies & then fussy cutting. Now, I fussy cut more. I don't think dies are going anywhere either. I have a Cameo and a Cricut on it's last legs. I don't own a lot of manual dies but the ones I own I use for cutting materials that are not made for electronic cutters. I like my dies that emboss.
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Post by tracyarts on Jun 29, 2015 6:27:01 GMT
When I was at JoAnn's last weekend, there weren't many dies at all. One section, where the Spellbinders dies were stocked, was almost completely empty, maybe three or four dies total hanging on the wall. The other section where the Sizzix dies were was about half empty. Yes they were running them 40 or 50% off and there was a coupon for 15% off total purchase. But I don't think that the sale would account for the stock being almost completely depleted.
I had bought an electronic cutter finally, and then recently was able to buy a Sizzix big kick for a very good price. So I've been looking for dies on sale or clearance whenever I go to a craft store.
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Post by cupcakepeddler on Jun 29, 2015 10:34:18 GMT
I wonder if it has anything to do with cheaper alternatives hitting the market and needing to diversify or change retail tactic? When I first started buying nestabilities they were around the $30-$40 mark but they were the only option out there, these days you can pick up the same product from a few different "cheaper" companies for $5-$10.
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Post by RoselynR on Jun 29, 2015 13:44:59 GMT
Spellbinders actually makes the dies for a number of companies (like Tattered Lace) so I think they have an even larger presence than it appears. FSJ is actually using Spellbinders products in their catalogs. So again...I doubt they are going out of business.
I have multiple electronic cutters but I am a total die addict. I especially love the intricate ones by companies like Memory Box, Create and Craft Couture, and Sue Wilson
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Post by Dictionary on Jun 29, 2015 18:02:49 GMT
Well frankly I am not surprised with Spellbinders. I haven't bought their stuff in a long time, they were going the way of jewelry and honestly those dies did not interest me.
I have been buying mostly Simon Says although I still keep my eye on Die-namics, Memory Box, Taylored Expressions, Avery Elle and My Favorite Things. I will say I see a lot of people like TE repeating what Spellbinders already did. I almost feel like there has been enough time between releases that all the new companies starting out just repeat what's been done before them.
I never cared for TL..just too intricate and frilly for my taste. I also find it interesting to see many of the dies being sold in the quilt/fabric arena.
Personally with all the e-die cutters it's going to be more difficult to sell, but there are many people who still can't afford one as well as people like me who do like their dies in addition to having an e-cutter.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 18:47:22 GMT
I was at michaels on the weekend and there were *2* Tim Holtz die sets. I didn't see anything else. I am thinking it's mostly online stores that are carrying dies these days and not the big box stores.
Remember the days with oodles and oodles of Sizzix dies? I don't think my Michaels even had a die cutting machine other than a Silhouette and a Cricut.
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Post by scrapaddie on Jun 29, 2015 22:47:45 GMT
No idea what is happening, but I did notice some new dies at Joanne fabrics. I am a die addict! Do you mean new Spellbinder dies or a new die company? Both!!
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Jun 30, 2015 5:07:29 GMT
My Mikes clearanced them all out. The JoAnns that's a hour away has some in new packaging. I really hope Michaels brings some new dies in because I love them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 7:06:36 GMT
I wonder if it has anything to do with cheaper alternatives hitting the market and needing to diversify or change retail tactic? When I first started buying nestabilities they were around the $30-$40 mark but they were the only option out there, these days you can pick up the same product from a few different "cheaper" companies for $5-$10. Who makes dies that are $5-$10. That is my price range. . I am really out of the loop about manual dies.
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Post by cupcakepeddler on Jun 30, 2015 12:41:04 GMT
I wonder if it has anything to do with cheaper alternatives hitting the market and needing to diversify or change retail tactic? When I first started buying nestabilities they were around the $30-$40 mark but they were the only option out there, these days you can pick up the same product from a few different "cheaper" companies for $5-$10. Who makes dies that are $5-$10. That is my price range. . I am really out of the loop about manual dies. Darice do a range of nesting dies called embossing essentials that I have seen for around $10 and we have a company in Australia called mpress that sell nesting dies for super cheap, I managed to get a set of the mpress pinking circles for $6 or $7 Australian which is an amazing price. I have also seen really good prices on the non nesting dies from Cheery Lynn and impression obsession.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 6:24:16 GMT
Thank you so much cupcakepeddler for the reply. I didn't know Darice was making dies. I was excited to read that. After I post here I am going to see what they have. I am in the States so I don't think I can get the Australian dies. I agree that is a really great price. I would be thrilled to find nesting dies in that range. I will check out Cheery Lynn and Impression Obsession too.
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Post by kraft4fun on Jul 1, 2015 8:36:58 GMT
Thank you so much cupcakepeddler for the reply. I didn't know Darice was making dies. I was excited to read that. After I post here I am going to see what they have. I am in the States so I don't think I can get the Australian dies. I agree that is a really great price. I would be thrilled to find nesting dies in that range. I will check out Cheery Lynn and Impression Obsession too. Check consumer crafts dot com. They have the darice dies and often on sale for $5-8 each set Sent from my NX008HD8G using proboards
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Post by LisaDV on Jul 1, 2015 10:43:51 GMT
I went into Michaels and Joann's yesterday. Michaels had nary a spellbinder die to be seen. But Joann's still had a section devoted to them. But the packaging has changed - paper box with a window. I'm sure that its cheaper. Also they had so many 1 die only packs. I had my eye on a row of doily ones that were 9.99 each. With a sale or a coupon (if they're allowed on coupons) one might be a possibility down the road. I forget if anything was cheaper, I'm thinking not.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Jul 2, 2015 5:15:43 GMT
Went to Michael's last night to browse and they're also have the Grand Calibur on clearence.
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