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Post by jonda1974 on Jul 16, 2015 19:47:28 GMT
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So far I'm seeing very little information other than 4 dead, plus the shooter, and an officer wounded. Not seeing any details on the shooter himself. They are calling it domestic terrorism...Ft. Hood should have been as well. Prayers for all those effected.
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Post by snowsilver on Jul 16, 2015 19:49:31 GMT
Been waiting for someone to post this, Jonda. I'm so tired of this sort of cowardly attack. No one is safe anymore. And I, for one, don't have the remotest idea of how to stop it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 19:54:48 GMT
Just awful!
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Post by georgiapea on Jul 16, 2015 19:56:25 GMT
Supposedly 4 Marines have been killed. There is also an unconfirmed report (as far as I know) of a possible shooting at Walter Reed in DC. Sad day.
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Post by jonda1974 on Jul 16, 2015 20:01:21 GMT
Oh no. I hadn't heard about Walter Reed, a good friend's father works there.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 16, 2015 20:03:09 GMT
I'm just getting home from work,so this is the first I have heard about this. How awful!
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Post by georgiapea on Jul 16, 2015 20:32:31 GMT
I think the Walter Reed thing was an old rumor that appeared as a side bar on the page I read about Chattanooga on. Best to disregard at this point.
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Post by azredhead on Jul 16, 2015 20:39:31 GMT
Been watching it this morning!! So sad for those Marines and their families!!  Glad they got the guy! |
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Post by azredhead on Jul 16, 2015 20:44:23 GMT
is the Walter Reed thing a new one that was a few days ago or last week if I remember I'm not seeing anything on the news thing but I remember something a week or so ago but that it wasn't a big deal?
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Post by Skypea on Jul 16, 2015 20:51:49 GMT
Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez is name of shooter
born in Kuwait
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jul 16, 2015 21:12:02 GMT
Oh dear god. So frightening. I was sitting in one of those recruitment centers just a few weeks ago dropping another son off to leave for Navy boot camp (he'll be my second sailor).
My heart breaks for the families of those Marines.
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Post by auntkelly on Jul 16, 2015 21:20:08 GMT
This is terrible. I fear things are only going to get worse.
God bless those fallen Marines
Fox is reporting the shooter was born in Kuwait but went to high school in Chattanooga, TN. They say he was 24.
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Post by gossamer on Jul 16, 2015 21:37:52 GMT
I'm guessing the Marines wouldn't have been armed in a recruiting station? So sad for the families for the 4 marines and the cop that was injured. |
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jul 16, 2015 21:46:35 GMT
Praying for the marines who senselessly lost their lives today and the LEO's injured in the attack. I did see a new conference today where a local official called it an act of domestic terrorism but the FBI shut that right down.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 16, 2015 21:52:50 GMT
I'm guessing the Marines wouldn't have been armed in a recruiting station? So sad for the families for the 4 marines and the cop that was injured. No one in the recruiting station died from I gather. He left and went to a Naval base where he shot the Marines. Praying for the families. ETA: It was a Naval Reserve Center, not a base. |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 16, 2015 22:08:49 GMT
I'm guessing the Marines wouldn't have been armed in a recruiting station? So sad for the families for the 4 marines and the cop that was injured. No one in the recruiting station died from I gather. He left and went to a Naval base where he shot the Marines. Praying for the families. they were shot at the 2nd recruiting station this piece of shit shot up. The victims were not armed. |
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 16, 2015 22:52:18 GMT
No one in the recruiting station died from I gather. He left and went to a Naval base where he shot the Marines. Praying for the families. they were shot at the 2nd recruiting station this piece of shit shot up. The victims were not armed. Thank you for clarifying. I read the article incorrectly. When it said he drove off to a Naval Reserve Center about 6 miles away, I thought it meant a reserve base. |
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Post by dazeepetals on Jul 16, 2015 23:03:04 GMT
Just saw this on then evening news. Such a tragedy. My heart is hurting for the families of the marines who were killed today.
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Post by gossamer on Jul 17, 2015 2:16:50 GMT
No one in the recruiting station died from I gather. He left and went to a Naval base where he shot the Marines. Praying for the families. they were shot at the 2nd recruiting station this piece of shit shot up. The victims were not armed. Thanks! When I had left I hadn't heard where. Just kept talking about the one recruiting station and that it was a "soft target" so I assumed they weren't armed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 2:33:29 GMT
This hits far too close for our family. So sad for all the Marines and their families.
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Post by M in Carolina on Jul 17, 2015 3:11:16 GMT
"soft target" usually just means a civilian target in the lexicon of terrorism whereas a "hard target" would be attacking a military base or ship where everyone was armed and prepared for an attack.
I don't understand why the FBI and other government agencies keep trying to minimize the fact that there are people in our country that are trying to hurt people. As many people as possible.
Do they really think that making the public believe that nothing is going on is going to keep us safe?
Other countries have dealt with terrorism for years and still have active economies and citizens who do everyday normal routines--surrounded by people to protect them, of course.
I feel like my government is treating me like I'm a little kid who can't handle the idea that there's a group of people that wants all of us dead, so they keep us in the dark.
I hate that so many of our service people and civilians have been killed. These people are just walking around among us, and plotting.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jul 17, 2015 3:24:18 GMT
"soft target" usually just means a civilian target in the lexicon of terrorism whereas a "hard target" would be attacking a military base or ship where everyone was armed and prepared for an attack. I don't understand why the FBI and other government agencies keep trying to minimize the fact that there are people in our country that are trying to hurt people. As many people as possible. Do they really think that making the public believe that nothing is going on is going to keep us safe? Other countries have dealt with terrorism for years and still have active economies and citizens who do everyday normal routines--surrounded by people to protect them, of course. I feel like my government is treating me like I'm a little kid who can't handle the idea that there's a group of people that wants all of us dead, so they keep us in the dark. I hate that so many of our service people and civilians have been killed. These people are just walking around among us, and plotting. I don't want to dismiss that this is a tragedy and that it is a horrible thing that happened, but your post makes me want to rip my hair out at the roots. How many mass shootings do we have in this country every year? And how many are committed by Muslims? What's going on is that people are killing people in this country every day with GUNS, and the only time some people really seem to freak out about it is if the shooter has a Muslim name--which in the scope of the shootings in this country is exceptionally rare. A white person killed 9 black people a few weeks ago and people objected to that being called terrorism. How is that any different? |
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Jul 17, 2015 11:41:53 GMT
"soft target" usually just means a civilian target in the lexicon of terrorism whereas a "hard target" would be attacking a military base or ship where everyone was armed and prepared for an attack. I don't understand why the FBI and other government agencies keep trying to minimize the fact that there are people in our country that are trying to hurt people. As many people as possible. Do they really think that making the public believe that nothing is going on is going to keep us safe? Other countries have dealt with terrorism for years and still have active economies and citizens who do everyday normal routines--surrounded by people to protect them, of course. I feel like my government is treating me like I'm a little kid who can't handle the idea that there's a group of people that wants all of us dead, so they keep us in the dark. I hate that so many of our service people and civilians have been killed. These people are just walking around among us, and plotting. I don't want to dismiss that this is a tragedy and that it is a horrible thing that happened, but your post makes me want to rip my hair out at the roots. How many mass shootings do we have in this country every year? And how many are committed by Muslims? What's going on is that people are killing people in this country every day with GUNS, and the only time some people really seem to freak out about it is if the shooter has a Muslim name--which in the scope of the shootings in this country is exceptionally rare. A white person killed 9 black people a few weeks ago and people objected to that being called terrorism. How is that any different? Right around the 4th of July there was a lot of media coverage around "heightened alert" for possible terrorism. I assume when the public is told to be more self aware in public there is chatter that the intelligence community believes to be credible. Then it happened yesterday and there was nothing random about it. Makes me want to rip my hair out when being politically correct trumps what is obvious. Just like the dismissal of the murder of Brendan Tevlin, a young man from NJ killed by a radical Muslim who was on the FBI radar or the radical Muslim who decapitated a co-worker. |
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Post by AnotherPea on Jul 17, 2015 12:05:05 GMT
"soft target" usually just means a civilian target in the lexicon of terrorism whereas a "hard target" would be attacking a military base or ship where everyone was armed and prepared for an attack. I don't understand why the FBI and other government agencies keep trying to minimize the fact that there are people in our country that are trying to hurt people. As many people as possible. Do they really think that making the public believe that nothing is going on is going to keep us safe? Other countries have dealt with terrorism for years and still have active economies and citizens who do everyday normal routines--surrounded by people to protect them, of course. I feel like my government is treating me like I'm a little kid who can't handle the idea that there's a group of people that wants all of us dead, so they keep us in the dark. I hate that so many of our service people and civilians have been killed. These people are just walking around among us, and plotting. I don't want to dismiss that this is a tragedy and that it is a horrible thing that happened, but your post makes me want to rip my hair out at the roots. How many mass shootings do we have in this country every year? And how many are committed by Muslims? What's going on is that people are killing people in this country every day with GUNS, and the only time some people really seem to freak out about it is if the shooter has a Muslim name--which in the scope of the shootings in this country is exceptionally rare. A white person killed 9 black people a few weeks ago and people objected to that being called terrorism. How is that any different? Where did she say Muslims in her post? |
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Post by Skypea on Jul 17, 2015 14:02:03 GMT
"soft target" usually just means a civilian target in the lexicon of terrorism whereas a "hard target" would be attacking a military base or ship where everyone was armed and prepared for an attack. I don't understand why the FBI and other government agencies keep trying to minimize the fact that there are people in our country that are trying to hurt people. As many people as possible. Do they really think that making the public believe that nothing is going on is going to keep us safe? Other countries have dealt with terrorism for years and still have active economies and citizens who do everyday normal routines--surrounded by people to protect them, of course. I feel like my government is treating me like I'm a little kid who can't handle the idea that there's a group of people that wants all of us dead, so they keep us in the dark. I hate that so many of our service people and civilians have been killed. These people are just walking around among us, and plotting. as long as people keep believing the lies from this admin, they'll keep putting 'em out there. |
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 17, 2015 14:50:27 GMT
...but everything I have seen says that they ARE investigating this as domestic terrorism???
I don't think that 'they' are sugar coating this one at all.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jul 17, 2015 16:09:58 GMT
Where did she say Muslims in her post? It's pretty clear that "these people" does not refer to "people with guns." |
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Post by AnotherPea on Jul 17, 2015 16:12:30 GMT
Where did she say Muslims in her post? It's pretty clear that "these people" does not refer to "people with guns." I'm a fairly intelligent, well-educated woman. And I read "these people" as "people the government are watching because they pose a threat to society."
Your assumption was not "pretty clear" to me.
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Post by jonda1974 on Jul 17, 2015 16:20:38 GMT
"soft target" usually just means a civilian target in the lexicon of terrorism whereas a "hard target" would be attacking a military base or ship where everyone was armed and prepared for an attack. I don't understand why the FBI and other government agencies keep trying to minimize the fact that there are people in our country that are trying to hurt people. As many people as possible. Do they really think that making the public believe that nothing is going on is going to keep us safe? Other countries have dealt with terrorism for years and still have active economies and citizens who do everyday normal routines--surrounded by people to protect them, of course. I feel like my government is treating me like I'm a little kid who can't handle the idea that there's a group of people that wants all of us dead, so they keep us in the dark. I hate that so many of our service people and civilians have been killed. These people are just walking around among us, and plotting. I don't want to dismiss that this is a tragedy and that it is a horrible thing that happened, but your post makes me want to rip my hair out at the roots. How many mass shootings do we have in this country every year? And how many are committed by Muslims? What's going on is that people are killing people in this country every day with GUNS, and the only time some people really seem to freak out about it is if the shooter has a Muslim name--which in the scope of the shootings in this country is exceptionally rare. A white person killed 9 black people a few weeks ago and people objected to that being called terrorism. How is that any different? There is a difference, and it has nothing to do with Muslims, Timothy McVeigh was a white terrorist. It has everything to do with size, scale, purpose and scope. The thing is ISIS sent out a tweet at the same time that the shooter began shooting that definitely tied the two together. I also view attacks towards civic/government buildings, military installations etc to be more than just a regular mass shooting. |
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Post by gossamer on Jul 17, 2015 16:39:41 GMT
So still a soft target because.. not civilian and not armed? Targeted because they are military. They have all the confidence of our Government to carry a gun in a war zone but not to protect themselves here. Hopefully that will change.
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