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Post by Restless Spirit on Jul 23, 2015 1:10:50 GMT
I'm going to be making Christmas Cards this year and will be doing some embossing with embossing folders (thanks to the Refugees in the embossing folder thread  ). I would love to know if any one has a recommendation for high quality/premium bright white card stock that would be good for embossing/card making. Currently all I have is the inexpensive "paper pack" plain white card stock I've purchased from Michaels, Meijers or Hobby Lobby. I have one unopened package of white that says "Darice" Premium Cardstock, Solid-Dyed Core, Smooth Texture, #65, Great White. While it seems "okay" and I'll use it for testing my card designs, I'd really like to find a nicer quality for the final cards. Is there a brand, finish or weight of card stock that you would recommend for cardmaking? An online source or brick and mortar store, it doesn't matter. I have NO local scrapbooking stores in my area any more.  TIA! |
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Post by anniefb on Jul 23, 2015 1:29:56 GMT
I use Stamper's Select white cardstock from Papertrey Ink. It's 110lb weight which is great for card making. Great finish for stamping and also works well with copics. Not sure how the 'brightness' compares to Neenah, but from what I understand, Neenah Solar White would be another option.
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Post by GiantsFan on Jul 23, 2015 2:30:44 GMT
I started using the Neenah Solar White cardstock and love it. I usually use 80# or 110#. I wouldn't use 65# as card bases, it's too flimsy.
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Post by GiantsFan on Jul 23, 2015 3:03:32 GMT
Just wanted to add that Hallmark Scrapbook has Neenah Solar White 110# on sale for $6.99 for 25 sheets. Regular $8.39.
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Post by scrapaddie on Jul 23, 2015 3:03:37 GMT
You can sometimes find 110 pound at joanns... I like it
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Post by Restless Spirit on Jul 23, 2015 12:21:58 GMT
Thanks! I'll check those out. Good hint for the "weight" of the card stock. I learned something new!
I realized after I posted that I should have mentioned I'm going to try stamping as well as embossing, so it's good to know which card stock will work nicely for stamping too.
Thanks again.
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Post by cbet on Jul 23, 2015 13:18:45 GMT
Or at Michaels, they have packs of Recollections in 110# weight. That stuff is awesome. The regular price on it is $12.99, so you make sure you get the 110#.
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Post by LisaDV on Jul 25, 2015 1:04:40 GMT
I started using the Neenah Solar White cardstock and love it. I usually use 80# or 110#. I wouldn't use 65# as card bases, it's too flimsy. 
I always used cheap Georgia Pacific cardstock for my white bases but used SU! (I use to demo) white for top layers with it's smoothness, but it didn't have the weight. But Neenah is like the best of both worlds - heavy duty sturdiness for structure and smoothness for ink blending, stamping, coloring, embossing, etc. oh, my!
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Post by oldcrow on Jul 25, 2015 13:56:21 GMT
Another Neenah fan.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 25, 2015 23:45:44 GMT
I also use Neenah solar white 110# for my card bases and coloring. I use Georgia Pacific 65# from WalMart for some layers and testing
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Post by Dictionary on Aug 3, 2015 22:13:45 GMT
Hands down Papertrey Ink has the best heavy weight cardstock. The Neenah Solar white is nice but honestly it's not as heavy as PI's. I like to use the Neenah for my copics but everything else I use the Papertrey Ink cs.
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Post by anniefb on Aug 5, 2015 5:42:18 GMT
Hands down Papertrey Ink has the best heavy weight cardstock. The Neenah Solar white is nice but honestly it's not as heavy as PI's. I like to use the Neenah for my copics but everything else I use the Papertrey Ink cs. That's good to know. I use PTIs but had been wondering about Neenah. It's not very easy to find here though. |
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Post by Restless Spirit on Aug 5, 2015 13:24:32 GMT
After running around town and not finding anything but very light weight card stock (and because cost is also a factor), I finally ordered some Neenah Exact Index Card Stock 110lb from Costco Online. It was $7.89 for 250 sheets per package min order of 2 packages. Free shipping, but there is tax in my state, so my total order was $16.88. I liked the price since I'm a beginning card maker and stamper, plus if I don't like it Costco has a generous return policy and I can return it to my local Costco. I'm looking forward to finally start my Christmas cards! Thanks everyone.  |
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Post by FurryP on Aug 8, 2015 1:33:23 GMT
After running around town and not finding anything but very light weight card stock (and because cost is also a factor), I finally ordered some Neenah Exact Index Card Stock 110lb from Costco Online. It was $7.89 for 250 sheets per package min order of 2 packages. Free shipping, but there is tax in my state, so my total order was $16.88. I liked the price since I'm a beginning card maker and stamper, plus if I don't like it Costco has a generous return policy and I can return it to my local Costco. I'm looking forward to finally start my Christmas cards! Thanks everyone. Ooooh...could you come back and tell us how you like it? The skeptic in me thinks it's too good to be true. That much #110 paper for that price. I'm looking for good base cardstock also. thanks!  |
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Post by meganliane on Aug 8, 2015 3:30:20 GMT
After running around town and not finding anything but very light weight card stock (and because cost is also a factor), I finally ordered some Neenah Exact Index Card Stock 110lb from Costco Online. It was $7.89 for 250 sheets per package min order of 2 packages. Free shipping, but there is tax in my state, so my total order was $16.88. I liked the price since I'm a beginning card maker and stamper, plus if I don't like it Costco has a generous return policy and I can return it to my local Costco. I'm looking forward to finally start my Christmas cards! Thanks everyone. Ooooh...could you come back and tell us how you like it? The skeptic in me thinks it's too good to be true. That much #110 paper for that price. I'm looking for good base cardstock also. thanks! yeah - sometimes you have to look at other factors beside just the #65 or #110 but I can't remember what they are off the top of my head. Anyways hopefully it is heavy - let us know. I love Costco |
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Post by meganliane on Aug 8, 2015 3:32:13 GMT
Also wanted to add that I like Gina K pure luxury, as well as the neenah. I have only bought the thickest Gina K.
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Post by freeatlast on Aug 8, 2015 13:33:57 GMT
Years ago there was a post on a SCS thread about card stock weight by a woman named Diane. I've saved it to a word doc because I didn't know the difference and learned a lot from her post. Here's what she wrote:
Not all 110 pound papers are equal.
110 pound is called the "basis weight" for the paper. Here's a definition:
Basis Weight
The basis weight of a paper is the designated fixed weight of 500 sheets,
measured in pounds, in that paper's basic sheet size.
It is important to note that the "basic sheet size" is not the same
for all types of paper.
Here's sheet sizes for a few types of paper:
Tag stock: 24x36 inches
Index stock: 25.5x30.5 inches
Cover stock: 20x26 inches
Do you see how tag stock is thinner than cover stock, since the weight of 500 sheets is the same (assuming 110 pound for each) but the sheet size is smallest in cover stock?
So, 110 pound cover is thicker than 110 pound index, which is thicker than 110 pound tag. BTW, cardstock is a generic term for all these types of papers.
Another factor figuring into the equation is how much compression is used when rolling. Higher compression gives a harder, stiffer paper, while lower compression gives a softer feel.
So, since I use 110 pound cover for my card bases, they are stiffer than the GP 110 pound papers which are index weight. The index is thinner because the same amount of pulp was rolled into a larger sheet.
It would be easier to compare papers if we rated them like they do in Europe by expressing weight as grams per square meter (of a single sheet). If you compare the papers above by using the weights in grams per square meter, you discover that:
100 pound tag = 90 pound index = 60 pound cover
Or...my 110 pound cover would be approximately equal to about 185 pound index stock.
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Post by Restless Spirit on Aug 8, 2015 23:34:13 GMT
Thank you for posting the information about card stock weight, freeatlast. It was really helpful and it helped me to understand the correct terminology and card stock weights. With that information I was able to search for more info on card stock weight, which will be of great help in the future. I found this information on a site called Paperworks.com that further explained paper, their weights and their possible uses. paperworks.com (about paper weights)With all of this new information, I was able to determine that the card stock I purchased is *not* the best card stock weight for the base of a greeting card. However, with that said, I have to say I do like the Neenah Exact Index 110lb Weight card stock I purchased. While it is not "ideal" for using as a greeting card base, for a beginner - meaning *me*, it is the following: 1) Very economical. ( I won't feel bad learning & experimenting) 2) It is heavier than the card stock I currently use ("Darice" Premium Cardstock, Solid-Dyed Core, Smooth Texture, #65, Great White and random other white cardstock bought from Hobby Lobby and Michaels ages ago) 3) It is also a "brighter white" than anything else I own. (I found a partial package of Wausau Exact Index, Smooth, 110 lb white in my desk. The Neenah is a much brighter white.) 4) The Neenah is also very smooth (to me)- more so than anything else I have. I did a test embossing and stamping on the Neenah Exact 110 lb and was very pleased with the results. I have decided to keep the Neenah and use it for this year's Christmas cards. It will definitely be a good cardstock for layering. I will probably also use it as a card base, too, although I suspect experienced card makers would find it not quite heavy enough, preferring, as freeatlast mentions above, Cover Stock weight over the thinner Index Stock weight. Thanks so much for everyone's help. |
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Post by 0612 on Aug 9, 2015 4:20:37 GMT
I really like close to my heart, but since I don't sell for them any more i've been looking around so I'm glad you started this thread.
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Post by FurryP on Aug 9, 2015 15:22:38 GMT
Or at Michaels, they have packs of Recollections in 110# weight. That stuff is awesome. The regular price on it is $12.99, so you make sure you get the 110#. I was at Michael's last night and saw this. I was able to *sort of* check it out because there was one package open on the corner and I could flick it a little bit. It was not too bad! Pretty decently thick. It was #110, but for me I would have to check out the whiteness on another day when I can bring the package closer to the window in daylight hours. Thank for sharing this info! |
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Post by jamierose5985 on Sept 5, 2015 19:43:09 GMT
Another Neenah Solar White fan here.
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Post by digirlwiz on Sept 6, 2015 15:40:12 GMT
Bazzil Card Shoppe marshmallow. Love it as a card base and to color with copics.
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Post by camcas on Sept 10, 2015 5:42:10 GMT
Gina K pure luxury heavy weight for bases and neenah solarwhite 80 lb for tops
Gina k has THE BEST customer service as well!
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Post by gailoh on Sept 14, 2015 14:10:23 GMT
need to mark my spot so I can come back
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Post by JustTricia on Sept 14, 2015 14:34:20 GMT
I've been hearing a lot about Hammermill Digital Color Copy paper. Has anyone used that, especially for Copics?
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