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Post by penny on Jul 26, 2015 7:03:09 GMT
I made the mistake of mentioning to my mom that the wife of a guy I do some admin work for had her first novel published... She Googled and read an exert, said it was interesting and that she'd like to read the whole book... She's asked me to buy and download it for her...
Thing is, it's a historical romance... I have no idea where that sits on the love story to erotica spectrum, my mom won't enjoy anything that's too explicit, and I'm not about to ask the guy I work for...lol
It's called The Pirate Lord and it's by Vanda Vadas... Has anyone read it, or can anyone tell me how explicit historical romances are?
TIA
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Post by lucyg on Jul 26, 2015 7:26:02 GMT
There's a wide range from sweet Christian romance to borderline pornography. Most have some kind of at least moderately graphic sex ... probably especially a pirate romance.  Just ask him. You won't be the first. Or ask your mom if she'll be shocked by any explicit sex. She may surprise you. |
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Post by penny on Jul 26, 2015 7:35:54 GMT
I could probably ask him in a joking way if it was in person, the topic came up, others were around, etc... The work is online, so I'd have to write out the question and that's just so direct...lol My mom is very conservative... She wouldn't mind if sex was suggested or alluded too - she could ignore the subtext... She likes romances that are similar to those that are depicted in movies from the 40's and 50's... I was hoping "historical" meant something like that...lol I didn't know Christian romance existed... Might have to go with that for the moment... Wonder if there are Christian pirates?  |
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Post by lucyg on Jul 26, 2015 10:17:35 GMT
Good luck with that. |
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Post by Patter on Jul 26, 2015 10:30:48 GMT
All I read is Christian historical romance as do my girls. We have zillions of books. I can make tons of suggestions if you need them.  |
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Post by chrissypie on Jul 26, 2015 11:24:07 GMT
Yeah, Historical Romance is a broad genre - it could be anywhere on the spectrum.
She's read the excerpt and that should give her a pretty clear idea if it's her type of book. If you want to be extra sure, I'd tell her that I haven't actually read it and so don't recommend it per se (a bit of a disclaimer!).
Coincidentally, I worked with a man whose wife published her first historical romance, too!
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 26, 2015 15:17:21 GMT
If your mother read the exerpt and wants the book, why are you trying to censor a grown woman's choice? If there is graphic sex and she doesn't like it, she can skip it. Maybe the implied sex in the exerpt is exactly why she wants to read it. I don't get why you think you have to protect a grown woman from her choices.
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Post by RiverIsis on Jul 26, 2015 15:46:31 GMT
Well, not historical, my own mother shocked me by reading 50 Shades, as recommended by a friend from church, and then proclaimed it wasn't a patch on Lady Chatterley's Lover...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 16:02:41 GMT
I imagine there will be some heaving bosoms, ripping bodices and tight leather breeches struggling to contain someones manhood but it's not (by perusing Amazon) outright erotica. TIL that pirate erotica is an actual thing:- Seamen ahoy indeed |
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Post by uksue on Jul 26, 2015 16:11:43 GMT
The only historical romance I have read is the outlander series, and I rather think your mum would be a little discomfited by some of the raunchy scenes in those! I tend to just read quickly over anything that embarrasses me though.
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Post by jenjie on Jul 26, 2015 18:18:44 GMT
You can usually tell by the picture on the cover. There is a reason some of those books are called bodice rippers...
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Post by anniefb on Jul 26, 2015 18:50:37 GMT
Well, not historical, my own mother shocked me by reading 50 Shades, as recommended by a friend from church, and then proclaimed it wasn't a patch on Lady Chatterley's Lover... LOL! |
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Post by anniefb on Jul 26, 2015 18:57:26 GMT
Good luck with that.  |
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Post by anniefb on Jul 26, 2015 18:58:16 GMT
One of the reviews said:
'A sizzling debut from a talented new writer. Powerful emotion and delicious sensuality . . . Vanda Vadas is a captivating new voice in historical romance.' Christina Brooke, author of The Ministry of Marriage series'
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Post by Dori~Mama~Bear on Jul 26, 2015 19:01:26 GMT
Don't know about your mom but my mom would have loved it. Now I have to check out this book. My mom and grandma used to read harlequin romance books. They were in a group of women that would read and pass them around to the others in the group. They did that most of my life.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 26, 2015 20:39:20 GMT
Raunchy historical romances have been around forever. I was reading them as a young teen and I'm 50 now. They started way before my time. I assume if your mom reads romance she's read it before and can decide for herself if she needs to skip some scenes.
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Post by penny on Jul 26, 2015 21:41:47 GMT
All I read is Christian historical romance as do my girls. We have zillions of books. I can make tons of suggestions if you need them. That would be great - your top three books or authors would be a great place to start |
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Post by penny on Jul 26, 2015 21:50:39 GMT
If your mother read the exerpt and wants the book, why are you trying to censor a grown woman's choice? If there is graphic sex and she doesn't like it, she can skip it. Maybe the implied sex in the exerpt is exactly why she wants to read it. I don't get why you think you have to protect a grown woman from her choices. The exercise was the first chapter, so it was really more of an introduction to the characters - it included a few longing glances, but nothing physical or sexual... I'm not censoring her at all... We don't live together, she's got her own money, she can ask to borrow someone else's reader and get them to buy her the book... I'm asking because I know my mom... She's walked out of movies because she's been physically uncomfortable (eyes watering, wringing her hands), with the sex scenes... She's commented that 1940's movie closed mouth kisses are all that's needed - audiences don't need to see them moving under sheets... She's very conservative and naive, and I'd rather download a book she'd enjoy... |
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Post by penny on Jul 26, 2015 21:59:01 GMT
I imagine there will be some heaving bosoms, ripping bodices and tight leather breeches struggling to contain someones manhood but it's not (by perusing Amazon) outright erotica. TIL that pirate erotica is an actual thing:- Seamen ahoy indeed I'm not sure this will make sense, but she might be okay-ish with heaving bosom type stuff... If things are written poetically (?) or with double entendres, she either doesn't catch or doesn't pay attention to the subtext... |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jul 26, 2015 22:00:14 GMT
I have to say that my tolerance for sex scenes in movies is much, much lower than what I will read. Your mom has asked to read the book I'd just give it to her rather than trying to figure out if she'll like it.
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Post by penny on Jul 26, 2015 22:03:56 GMT
Raunchy historical romances have been around forever. I was reading them as a young teen and I'm 50 now. They started way before my time. I assume if your mom reads romance she's read it before and can decide for herself if she needs to skip some scenes. She doesn't usually read romance (I don't either), and that's why I'm struggling... She just finished reading the books that Heartbeat were based on, but she heard women at her work talking about 'beach reads' and wants to try something different... |
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Post by penny on Jul 26, 2015 22:08:17 GMT
I have to say that my tolerance for sex scenes in movies is much, much lower than what I will read. Your mom has asked to read the book I'd just give it to her rather than trying to figure out if she'll like it. Thanks - I never considered that... Think my best bet will be downloading this one and maybe a Christian romance, and then she can try them out... |
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Post by LeaP on Jul 26, 2015 22:21:07 GMT
Raunchy historical romances have been around forever. I was reading them as a young teen and I'm 50 now. They started way before my time. I assume if your mom reads romance she's read it before and can decide for herself if she needs to skip some scenes.  Are you sure she isn't proper for your benefit? As I got older, I learned that my grandmother (b. 1906), knew everything, she just didn't let on that she did. Maybe your mom would be less shocked than she has led you to believe. |
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Post by penny on Jul 26, 2015 22:54:53 GMT
Raunchy historical romances have been around forever. I was reading them as a young teen and I'm 50 now. They started way before my time. I assume if your mom reads romance she's read it before and can decide for herself if she needs to skip some scenes. Are you sure she isn't proper for your benefit? As I got older, I learned that my grandmother (b. 1906), knew everything, she just didn't let on that she did. Maybe your mom would be less shocked than she has led you to believe. That's certainly possible... It's hard to tell because she does live a sheltered life... Not sure that's the best way to say it, but without going into medical stuff it's the simple way of explaining it... She's scared to turn on the computer at home and won't go on the internet unless someone is with her, doesn't understand how cable works so doesn't have it/want it, will get physically sick to her stomach if a conversation is too much for her (current events, or if someone asks for her opinion)... She has a hard time recognizing things that have bothered her in the past - a movie will upset her, but when the sequel comes out she wants to see it, insists it won't upset her, then gets more upset when 'they made it even worse than the first one'... I'm happy to buy her any book she wants, but it is hard to see her get upset/sick and selfishly it does wear me down too... It's been like this since I was eight, and I'm never sure that I'm balancing looking out for her with minding my own business... |
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Post by LeaP on Jul 26, 2015 23:34:16 GMT
Are you sure she isn't proper for your benefit? As I got older, I learned that my grandmother (b. 1906), knew everything, she just didn't let on that she did. Maybe your mom would be less shocked than she has led you to believe. That's certainly possible... It's hard to tell because she does live a sheltered life... Not sure that's the best way to say it, but without going into medical stuff it's the simple way of explaining it... She's scared to turn on the computer at home and won't go on the internet unless someone is with her, doesn't understand how cable works so doesn't have it/want it, will get physically sick to her stomach if a conversation is too much for her (current events, or if someone asks for her opinion)... She has a hard time recognizing things that have bothered her in the past - a movie will upset her, but when the sequel comes out she wants to see it, insists it won't upset her, then gets more upset when 'they made it even worse than the first one'... I'm happy to buy her any book she wants, but it is hard to see her get upset/sick and selfishly it does wear me down too... It's been like this since I was eight, and I'm never sure that I'm balancing looking out for her with minding my own business... Wow, that sounds very difficult. After your update, I say, proceed with caution. |
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Post by scrapaddie on Jul 26, 2015 23:58:58 GMT
If your mother read the exerpt and wants the book, why are you trying to censor a grown woman's choice? If there is graphic sex and she doesn't like it, she can skip it. Maybe the implied sex in the exerpt is exactly why she wants to read it. I don't get why you think you have to protect a grown woman from her choices. Yeah.... This!! I took my dad back to his hometown to visit relatives. It was a long drive, 11 hours. I was listening to a book on CD, along with my dad. It was a Richard Patterson novel and it was a Mistry so I thought it would be OK. Suddenly, we were in the midst of an explicit sex scene. I'm sure my cheeks are burning. I told my dad " I think I'll fast forward through this." how my dad says no leave it alone. My dad was 94 at the time, and I thought very conservative. He surprised me! |
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Post by scrapaddie on Jul 27, 2015 0:00:01 GMT
How old is your mother?
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Post by workingclassdog on Jul 27, 2015 0:13:47 GMT
My mom is 76 and we read a lot of the same, I would just ask her.. In fact, found out that my step-sister bought her the whole 50 shades series for her birthday (it was before she 'knew' what they were, they were top picks on Amazon I guess and she always is getting her books) but I laughed so hard when I found out... we just have a good open relationship about anything... if I know there is raunchy parts I just tell her.
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Post by gramasue on Jul 27, 2015 0:16:02 GMT
My Mom used to say "It was a pretty good story, but I can do without all that sex". Let your Mom decide if she wants to read those scenes or just skip over them.
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Post by penny on Jul 27, 2015 1:21:46 GMT
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Are you sure she isn't proper for your benefit? As I got older, I learned that my grandmother (b. 1906), knew everything, she just didn't let on that she did. Maybe your mom would be less shocked than she has led you to believe.
